I'll be the 51 contrarian. I went thru a phase where I was really into Parkers -- vintage vacuumatics, a few Duofolds and of course 51s. The 51s never struck me as "skookum", I found they wrote too broad a line for nib size, didn't care for the various filling mechanisms/ink volume and a few have some QC issues (like the barrel screw on is so shallow, sometimes it comes off with the cap on my flighter). I recently picked up a Wing Sung 601 "Flighter" and aside from the nib being a bit scratchy (now smoothed at home), I vastly prefer it to my Parker 51 Flighter and for a much nicer price.
Th wing sung 601 is what The new Parker 51 should have been. Wing Sung hit the ball out of the park with the new design pump action vacumatic filling system. I have one with the ink window and I can leave it for months and it writes first time every time. A 10/10 Chinese pen at a great price. I also got one with the fudge nib. 10/10 again.
I have multiple models of all three pens. FWIW, I keep the WingSung 601a (Army Green) inked all the time. It absolutely never lets me down. I take the 51's out occasionally, admire them, stroke them lovingly with a cleaning cloth, and put them back in their little beds (I actually prefer writing with a Parker 21, 41, or 61, but they aren't as attractive as the 51, perhaps). I do enjoy the Jinhao 51a in the wood barrel/steel cap config (not a fan of acrylic pens really), but the WingSung has pretty much trumped it, too.
Thanks for the video. It was actually the reason I bought my Wing Sung 601. I got her in blue and surprisingly it works smoothly out of the "box" (plastic sleeve). I had a Parker 45 flighter that I used for nearly 25 years that broke and needed a replacement while I can't find a proper replacement flighter. I was actually very impressed with the writing feel of my Wing Sung 601. Yes it as the same problem you ranted about for 4 or 5 min. but I will smooth it out and have a very decent writer with a vacumatic refilling system (I like it for the amount of ink it loads, witch with the fine nib keeps writing for a really long time without needing to refill) for a really inexpensive price. So thank you for the review
Wow great video which reminds me of how much I love my Parker 51. And how much I wouldn’t love an imposter (not ?skookum at all). Keep these vids coming!
I like my two P51s a lot. One is a 14k vacuumatic filler, the other is a ‘Special’ (steel nib, fixed converter). Both are very smooth, dependable writers. And, as is very common with most Parker pens in my experience, the nib’s line width is slightly broader than the designated one on both my pens. I have two WS 601s. One with the hooded nib, the other is the 601A with the conical Triumph-style nib. The pump draw filler in both those pens is something I really like. Fun to use, easy to clean and very efficient filling. Far more appealing and convenient than the vacumatic filler. The Jinhao 51a is another very good one, all things considered. I think the P51 w/the gold nib definitely edges out the excellent WS 601. That said, I still love my vintage Aurora 88, the 98 and the vintage Duo Cart much more than the P51, or any other vintage classic pen. Thanks for an engaging, worthy comparison review of these very good pens.
Great review! You nail it! Quality means higher price. Depends on so many human likes and dislikes. I personally think it's ok the competition but I guess big brands will think about pattents hehe Thank you and see you next time😃
The best the Jinhao 51a do for me, is make me get a Parker 51 and a Parker 21 XD... jokes apart, the Parker 51 wll always be copy, homaged or reissued, but never be replaced. Thanks for the video.
I put a replacement mini fude nib from eBay on my wingsung, since the stock nib was awful. Now I love it ;) might go for the Parker cap since I’m already in this deep hahaha
I like the idea of a vacuumatic style, but they're an absolute pain to clean (my wife has a Parker Vacuumatic). Between that and having to replace the diaphragm, and not being able to use a lot of fun inks because they'll eat that diaphragm I would view a pen like this as a novelty. There's a reason Edison stopped offering their vacuumatic style "Pump Filler" system as an option in their standard production pens and replaced it with their "Draw Filler". (Pretty sure you can still get their "Pump Filler" if you ask for it though, but Brian Grey has talked about in the past about having to service those often and replace the diaphragm). **P.S.:** I found a demonstrator version on Amazon, it looks like they are using a system like Brian Grey's Draw Filler so no latex sac. So honestly, solid design.
Definitely not the best filling system in the world for sure. But one cool thing is the available replacement diaphragm assembly for pretty cheap. Something different to try, but not the most dependable way to get ink in a pen
Hmmm don't know how much thicker inks get and still work well. Probably a hairline crack somewhere in the nib/feed/housing setup causing the leak. Or something isn't leaving a slight vacuum in the converter and the ink flow isn't being we regulated so it flows out more than it should
I was just wondering if someone who owns and loves a MONTBLANC 146 or 9 or Pelikan M800 kind of pen will also like to own a wing sung 601 or 616 since 🤔 critiques own them cuz they have to review across the spectrum but do enthusiasts like to own from different end of the spectrum especially if they can afford the finest 🤔
Parker 51 is over rated, actually in the Glorious Popolar Republic they made better fountain pens at honest prices. I prefer Chinese pens, American pens are not well made. Bella pettè, Chicco 🇨🇳 🇮🇹
In the beginning, I thought, you were making fun of the Chinese cheap copies of the 51. I think, of course, the Parker 51 was a great pen in the '50. The world was destroyed, and everybody was very happy with simple things. There is nothing to say against it. Generally speaking, the 51 was later on a pen for school children. I went to primary school at the end of the '70, and I got a simple one from my father (actually several of them), it was great for us children because the nib was (relatively) well protected. I know, there are some very well-made pens from the '50 where the cap and the nib are made out of gold ... so I CANNOT UNDERSTAND why the "hype" about the pen. Of course, those pens with the gold nib and original from the '50 ... sure ... they possess not only value for collectors, but also a "sentimental" one, THAT I can understand, everything else, NOT AT ALL. I must say, I HATE COPY-CATS! And the Chinese are even worse than that, they are impertinent, in the way they steal from others 🤢🤮 If I can, I do not buy from them.
Thanks for the insight. I'm going to get this pen soon. My favorite Chinese pen is the Jinhao 9019. It's one of the best writers I have ever used.
Hey thanks so much for the Super Thanks!!! The 9019 is great. They did a great job on that one
I'll be the 51 contrarian. I went thru a phase where I was really into Parkers -- vintage vacuumatics, a few Duofolds and of course 51s. The 51s never struck me as "skookum", I found they wrote too broad a line for nib size, didn't care for the various filling mechanisms/ink volume and a few have some QC issues (like the barrel screw on is so shallow, sometimes it comes off with the cap on my flighter). I recently picked up a Wing Sung 601 "Flighter" and aside from the nib being a bit scratchy (now smoothed at home), I vastly prefer it to my Parker 51 Flighter and for a much nicer price.
"Back to my teenage years" I about died
Th wing sung 601 is what The new Parker 51 should have been.
Wing Sung hit the ball out of the park with the new design pump action vacumatic filling system.
I have one with the ink window and I can leave it for months and it writes first time every time.
A 10/10 Chinese pen at a great price.
I also got one with the fudge nib. 10/10 again.
Fude nib, not 'fudge'. 🙄
I have multiple models of all three pens. FWIW, I keep the WingSung 601a (Army Green) inked all the time. It absolutely never lets me down. I take the 51's out occasionally, admire them, stroke them lovingly with a cleaning cloth, and put them back in their little beds (I actually prefer writing with a Parker 21, 41, or 61, but they aren't as attractive as the 51, perhaps). I do enjoy the Jinhao 51a in the wood barrel/steel cap config (not a fan of acrylic pens really), but the WingSung has pretty much trumped it, too.
Thanks for the video. It was actually the reason I bought my Wing Sung 601. I got her in blue and surprisingly it works smoothly out of the "box" (plastic sleeve). I had a Parker 45 flighter that I used for nearly 25 years that broke and needed a replacement while I can't find a proper replacement flighter. I was actually very impressed with the writing feel of my Wing Sung 601. Yes it as the same problem you ranted about for 4 or 5 min. but I will smooth it out and have a very decent writer with a vacumatic refilling system (I like it for the amount of ink it loads, witch with the fine nib keeps writing for a really long time without needing to refill) for a really inexpensive price. So thank you for the review
Wow great video which reminds me of how much I love my Parker 51. And how much I wouldn’t love an imposter (not ?skookum at all). Keep these vids coming!
I like my two P51s a lot. One is a 14k vacuumatic filler, the other is a ‘Special’ (steel nib, fixed converter). Both are very smooth, dependable writers. And, as is very common with most Parker pens in my experience, the nib’s line width is slightly broader than the designated one on both my pens.
I have two WS 601s. One with the hooded nib, the other is the 601A with the conical Triumph-style nib. The pump draw filler in both those pens is something I really like. Fun to use, easy to clean and very efficient filling. Far more appealing and convenient than the vacumatic filler. The Jinhao 51a is another very good one, all things considered.
I think the P51 w/the gold nib definitely edges out the excellent WS 601.
That said, I still love my vintage Aurora 88, the 98 and the vintage Duo Cart much more than the P51, or any other vintage classic pen.
Thanks for an engaging, worthy comparison review of these very good pens.
Really well done and a nice review.
Great review! You nail it! Quality means higher price. Depends on so many human likes and dislikes. I personally think it's ok the competition but I guess big brands will think about pattents hehe Thank you and see you next time😃
I absolutely love my WS601A. I changed the nib to a FC loom nib and it is one of my favorite pens right now
Oh nice upgrade! The FC steel nibs are one of the best out of the box
The best the Jinhao 51a do for me, is make me get a Parker 51 and a Parker 21 XD... jokes apart, the Parker 51 wll always be copy, homaged or reissued, but never be replaced.
Thanks for the video.
I put a replacement mini fude nib from eBay on my wingsung, since the stock nib was awful. Now I love it ;) might go for the Parker cap since I’m already in this deep hahaha
I like the idea of a vacuumatic style, but they're an absolute pain to clean (my wife has a Parker Vacuumatic). Between that and having to replace the diaphragm, and not being able to use a lot of fun inks because they'll eat that diaphragm I would view a pen like this as a novelty. There's a reason Edison stopped offering their vacuumatic style "Pump Filler" system as an option in their standard production pens and replaced it with their "Draw Filler". (Pretty sure you can still get their "Pump Filler" if you ask for it though, but Brian Grey has talked about in the past about having to service those often and replace the diaphragm).
**P.S.:** I found a demonstrator version on Amazon, it looks like they are using a system like Brian Grey's Draw Filler so no latex sac. So honestly, solid design.
Definitely not the best filling system in the world for sure. But one cool thing is the available replacement diaphragm assembly for pretty cheap. Something different to try, but not the most dependable way to get ink in a pen
For metal on plastic or resin threads or any combination of, and there are signs of wear, apply silicone grease to the threads for longer wear.
I’d go for the Parker for what it’s worth. I have a Jinhao 51A with a fude nib, a very nice little pen.
My Jinhao leaks through the nib. I'm wondering if a different ink (thicker) be better!!!
Hmmm don't know how much thicker inks get and still work well. Probably a hairline crack somewhere in the nib/feed/housing setup causing the leak. Or something isn't leaving a slight vacuum in the converter and the ink flow isn't being we regulated so it flows out more than it should
9:00 Give it hell!!! LOL
Jinhao and how.
It drives me nuts when you use a fountain pen nib as a pointer. Get a bamboo kebab skewer; that would be much better. (Love your reviews).
I was just wondering if someone who owns and loves a MONTBLANC 146 or 9 or Pelikan M800 kind of pen will also like to own a wing sung 601 or 616 since 🤔 critiques own them cuz they have to review across the spectrum but do enthusiasts like to own from different end of the spectrum especially if they can afford the finest 🤔
Hello sir
Maybe Except jinhao x159 you won't like any other Chinese pen because you experienced the best pens and nibs
@rockfitclub will give that a shot! JInhaow x159 you say?
@@fizixguru101 yes jinhao x159
You can watch reviews and then decide
I bought 4 pack color with number 8 nib for 35
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Not a fan of the arrow clip on the new Parker 51. Looks like what it is, a cheap stamp impression. I'll stick with the original.
Parker 51 is over rated, actually in the Glorious Popolar Republic they made better fountain pens at honest prices. I prefer Chinese pens, American pens are not well made. Bella pettè, Chicco 🇨🇳 🇮🇹
In the beginning, I thought, you were making fun of the Chinese cheap copies of the 51.
I think, of course, the Parker 51 was a great pen in the '50. The world was destroyed, and everybody was very happy with simple things. There is nothing to say against it.
Generally speaking, the 51 was later on a pen for school children. I went to primary school at the end of the '70, and I got a simple one from my father (actually several of them), it was great for us children because the nib was (relatively) well protected. I know, there are some very well-made pens from the '50 where the cap and the nib are made out of gold ... so I CANNOT UNDERSTAND why the "hype" about the pen. Of course, those pens with the gold nib and original from the '50 ... sure ... they possess not only value for collectors, but also a "sentimental" one, THAT I can understand, everything else, NOT AT ALL.
I must say, I HATE COPY-CATS! And the Chinese are even worse than that, they are impertinent, in the way they steal from others 🤢🤮 If I can, I do not buy from them.