I Bought Bootleg Game Consoles from AliExpress
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- I found myself on AliExpress a while back, and ended up purchasing a handful of bootleg game consoles. Naturally, most of them are pretty bad. So let's see what I ended up with!
Bootleg Nintendo Games Video: • I Bought Bootleg Ninte...
Chapters:
00:00 - I bought more stuff
00:31 - The FC Compact
07:33 - The GS4
12:12 - The Hyper Base FC
26:03 - The Fake Sega Genesis
30:31 - Outro
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That Hyper Base FC is a really neat idea that definitely feels like a work of passion by someone. I'm really impressed by the laptop hard drive cartridge idea
Highly illegal, but awesome nonetheless.
I've got a Raspberry Pi case that works very similarly, shaped like an NES with a "cartridge" slot that takes an encased 2.5" SATA.
@@asteroidrulesdo you have the link for the raspberry pi case? I would love to get one as well!
@@D0SMIC It's called a NESPi 4. They were on Amazon but last I checked they're currently out of stock. The company that makes them is called Retroflag, they make a few Pi cases shaped like Nintendos but only the "4" version uses the hard drive cartridges.
id buy it. i cant find it tho
In Latin America, the NES was like a hidden treasure: expensive and hard to find. Nintendo didn't sell it here, so clones appeared: cheaper "pirate" consoles full of Spanish-language games.
Why didn't Nintendo bring it? Maybe they thought there wasn't enough money here. Wrong! The clones were a total success and millions of people enjoyed video games for the first time.
Were the clones bad? Some were, but others were great and even had their own games. In addition, thanks to them, a Latin American video game industry was born.
In short, NES clones were a creative response to Nintendo's absence in Latin America. They brought us joy, fun, and taught us that with ingenuity, anything is possible.
I know that Brasil had tariffs on non-Brazilian consoles and electronics, it's why Tech Toy produced Master Systems under licence rather than importing them. Nintendo liked to control its entire manufacturing process (carts were built by Nintendo and publishers/developers had to buy them off Nintendo).
Chilean here, the NES officially came out in 1991, and the SNES came the following year. They were expensive, but they were officially here.
They couldn't release the NES earlier due to the dictatorship, but some consoles were imported from the USA since the late 80's. Bootlegs also appeared around the same time those imported consoles started appearing in here.
@@Metal_Maxine y la única megadrive con hdmi
I remember having an OG NES not a clone when I was kid here in Venezuela. It was like 93-94 I think
80's Latin America couldn't afford real NES prices. 🤷 Bringing it over wouldn't have made sense for Nintendo with how small the population that could actually afford it would be. They'd have to dramatically cut their prices & thus margins to get it to sell, making the operation pointless. Cheap Famiclones could be manufactured and sold at much lower costs to Nintendo's first party hardware, especially later on in the early 90's.
The FC compact and similars were sold in countries like Argentina. In the 90s we have a lot of bootlegs like that, and that product was to give some nostalgic to the people who bought it.
Yeah I feel the same
So that explains people talking about the "Family" console, always thought it was strange for a Famicom to come here
Yeah, famiclones in the 90's had a surprisingly good quality in Argentina, often having components that the original Famicom had. This is a cheap NOAC
¡Aguante los sabados de Street Fighter en la Family, vieja! 🥲
I have this console almost 2 year old I play it to this day this is my only console I have but man its work original cartridge all of my cartridges includes my double dribble.
Trying to use that HyperBase FC as some kind of actual computer would be pretty interesting I think LMAO
They are usually based on some kind of Android TV box, i.e. unused chips for cellphones. Definitely would run some tiny linux distro.
@@aleksazunjic9672 It's running EmuELEC so it's definitely ARM-based, a minimal debian or just raspbian would most likely work
@@Calajese and with a more open platform the newer consoles might emulate a bit better after going through the settings.
one time my dad bought 2 crappy dropshipped bootleg consoles that barely worked because he fell for a facebook marketplace ad
Oof
drop shipping is literally the worst
Do you still have the consoles ? XD
I mean at least his heart was in the right place but yeah that sucks
the playman
Honestly that Hyperbase seems like an insane deal.
$30 is worth it for the drives alone, considering i've seen similar emulation drives on amazon for twice the price.
Probably every Brazillian knows the PolyStation 😂
the GS4 immediately reminded me of my PolyStation. I wonder if the Spanish manual means the primary target of that console was the Paraguayan border town trade, and not the US / English speaking part of the world
PolyStation was also very popular in Poland.
What about PCP?
Most Latin America too
@@23kijekYou mean clone of an "original" clone - Pegasus?
The Hyperbase seems like a good deal if you just want retro games.
well you can buy any android puck/stick or if you have a newish tv just run the emulators on the tv itself.
if you just want to buy a bunch of roms on a disk you can do that too, but you could just torrent them yourself too(possibly on the tv itself even)
Why would you buy that if any PC manufactured in the past 10 years can handle those games better?
@@Kwpolska1. you'd be surprised how slow some computers made in the past 10 years are
2. it's cheap, small, and already set up for the average consumer
@@Kwpolskapcs are much bigger, heavier and power hungry than a raspberry in a famicom plastic shell
WHAT IF YOU LIKE HARRY POTTER GAMES?
Hyper Base FC: To quit a game with no confirmation, select+start. That's default in retroarch
As an aside, that 60Hz option on Sonic Adventure 2 is for European owners to output the game in PAL 60 on compatible televisions. Nowadays with the days of analogue television and CRT's behind us, everything runs in 60Hz or above in Europe (though television broadcasts still run at 50Hz).
Isn't PAL 60 pretty much NTSC though? It's the same resolution and refresh rate as NTSC and the colours look a little different compared to PAL. We should just switch to 60fps in Europe, no one watches broadcasts anymore and on demand content is all converted to 30 fps for some stupid reason which makes the playback all jittery, even 24fps video is sped up to 25fps for PAL and then converted to 30fps for on demand when they could just leave it at 24.
@@talibong9518 It is the same resolution and refresh rate but the colour coding is that of PAL. We use 60fps (60Hz) in Europe for computing and Internet content, the 50fps/25fps interlaced we use for digital television is just a hangover of when analogue televisions matched the output of the power grid. In Japan where they have both 50 and 60Hz grids depending on where in the country you are, they standardised NTSC and its field rate. When regular TV broadcasts were introduced in Japan, electrical engineering had progressed to a point where you wouldn't get screen flicker with the wrong frequency so a TV could happily work on either 50 or 60Hz. Europe waited until the Internet and Plasma/LCD/LED TV to make a switch for media content.
@@talibong9518The most watched broadcast in the Netherlands here on TV was in 2021, so people are definitely still watching broadcasts, even if you aren't.
@@talibong9518 PAL60 is a hack that worked on some PAL CRTs. It uses the NTSC scanline resolution, but still uses the PAL color burst frequency. (If it didn't, you wouldn't get color at all).
I don't believe PAL60 was ever used for broadcast. It was just a hack that certain VCRs used to play back NTSC VHS tapes, and later used by consoles to play 60Hz video games on a PAL television.
And the standards use 25 or 50Hz for digital broadcast to retain backwards compatibility. It meant TVs could retain compatibility with older analog broadcasts. It makes it easier to digitize old content, without needing to worry about adding in extra frames. And no increased bandwidth from doing so.
Sure, that's less of a concern today. But then every TV you guys use is set up to use PAL, so changing it now isn't really worth it. Especially as broadcast TV is declining in favor of watching content online.
@@talibong9518 The jitter on 24p is on most US apps too. It's called the 3:2 pulldown, every third frame is held for 2 frames to make 30fps. A few devices and apps offer a match frame-rate mode (my Chromecast with Google TV does) but it's depends on the TV and the app on whether it works and it depends on the original files being stored at the correct frame-rate too. Many people prefer sped up films over judder, so there's no way to please everyone.
Plus, programmes have been archived at 50fps for years. The only way it could be possible is if we drop all support for SD broadcasts and the switch-off of has only just started here in the UK (and there's no timeframe for when it should be completed either, the BBC have but the majority of channels on Sky still broadcast using low bitrate MPEG2).
I have a Hyperbase FC (got it for a similar price) a while ago and ironically it is something I still play with today lol.
But does it have network support?
@@Vednier Good question. I have not attempted to use the android part or connected to my network.
Hyperbase A1 is a 256GB version with 46k games that’s available now. It’s like a memory bank mot than the ADV displayed in the video. £158 in UK on eBay. Literally just bought one now. Great value and no messing around with looking for old consoles.
@@fortitudevalance8424 You do know you can just get Retroarch for any android tablet or phone or your laptop or any other device you already have, and play anything you want, right?
The Hyper Base FC is amazing
Agreed
Common mistake with Retroarch based systems and performance. You can change cores and options in Retroarch, you have to try around a bit with what works best for the games but you can get a lot of games playable and more with some effort.
I like the part where the power adapter uses an American power connector when it requires European voltage. Very well thought out.
It's obviously made to work off of a British shaver socket so you play it while pooping! Seriously though I think they're made for 200v Japanese outlets, probably got them super cheap and just threw them in the box without checking the input voltage.
Cuba has outlets that fit north american plugs but are over 200V. I don't know what region that thing was made for but it sure wasn't the US 😂 Most generic AC to DC power bricks are multi-voltage nowadays so I was pretty surprised by that
Its for latin american markets
Other countries use that connector with different voltages. It's not just a US connector.
Latin america uses same outlet but higher voltage so it's because of that
One thing sould be noted about the ones like the hyper base fc. Do NOT connect them to your network. And make sure you're scanning usbs you take from it before you use files you've had on the device.
the FC compact is my main nes device, it works extremely well for its price, not to mention the cartridge slot
it's very hard to find quality nes alternatives in poor countries
Someone has probably pointed this out already, but if not; with the Sega Genesis bootleg, it's very odd that they've named it as a Sega Genesis on the box, considering here in the UK and EU/PAL region, it was known only as the Sega Mega Drive, and it definitely seems to be giving a PAL output. Just, really odd.
And it's especially odd given that the Model 3 was only released in North America.
It’s not a bootleg!!!
ahhh, this is so nostalgic, I love so much those Famicom clones. I remember that (at least here in Chile) back in the day was needed to buy a separate power adapter because the one in the box overheated so much that just starts to melt itself and the console powers off
That "GS4" reminded me of that "NANICA STATION 4" that I got back in 2018, but later got thrown away 3 years later
Why did you throw it away? Lol
@@Vista0279 The reason why I threw it away is because it broke right after I unplugged it while it was still powered on, but I can't remember the date of that event
Nanica lol... it's something.
The ribbon cables on that GS4 evidently have heat insulating peanut butter on the ribbon cables inside it, very ahead of it's time
Those mario graphics from the FC Compact hurt me so bad...
it is so crispy.. 🤣
@@mfmr200
Jesus Crisp
The first one doesn't look *too* surprising to me. It's kinda similar to those Dendy consoles we had in Russia in the 90s. I was relatively adult when I found out that NES and Famicom were a thing.
The SD in SD card stands for Secure Digital and its a trademark. The TF stands for Trans Flash and that is the generic name for a SD card.
Thank you so much for these fantastic videos, MJD! I love them so much you are my favourite youtuber!
Fc compact got the tight slot and that is good because don't glitch if you move the cartridge. Greeting from Argentina
Nice vid like always Micheal! I am a huge fan of your channel.
The sequel we needed!
The Hyper Base doesn’t look too bad. I’d buy this for retro gaming
In 90s, Famiclones were extremely popular in East Europe. You could buy them everywhere, including cartridges full of pirated games. Nintendo didn't care at all. Famiclones always used 9 pin Dsub connector for controllers.
The connectors was also 15-pin. My first famiclone used 15 pin connectors and the joysticks broke very quickly, but the joysticks bought separately never worked. So we bought another Famiclone with 9 pin connectors
that hyper base fc i would probably actually buy! the other ones on the other hand are crap!
"Just be prepared for Nintendo to come knocking at your door." Me: You'll never get me Nintendo; I'm not coming out, see? I have a vast supply of snacks and drinks in my bedroom!
I got the FC Compact famiclone (I live in South Africa where you can buy famiclones in retail stores since the 80s), and it was great at helping me fix my real Famicom since some of the plastic components are identical 😄
I think Nintendo has no grounds to be grumpy about pirated ROMs. They don’t sell most any longer, they don’t maintain, or update them anymore. It’s abandonware, plain and simply.
Love how these are so common to a good part of the world but not first world countries where they're starting to become collectable, even. And I'm also surprised not many outside of these low cost devices niche know about EmuELEC, or these SBCs.
I own one and it was simply terrible, PS1 ran terribly slow and no games had music, so in the end I discovered it had come with Android 8, and from that point I knew I could do something more. I wiped the 64GB SD card included and installed AArch64, which is Arch Linux for ARM devices, and use it as a little server, since those specs are so bad for anything other than that. The controllers it came with serve as backup USB options, because imagine deadzone, now think thrice as much.
Cheers, and take care :)
The Family Computer was my original console since that's what they sold here in the Philippines in the 80s and early 90s instead of the NES version.
Seeing one always makes me smile.
I definitely wouldn't trust those drives for long-term use. Not only are they older mechanical drives (which isn't always the end of the world, but you can never be sure, and that inconsistency is the problem) but using them as if they were cartridges will definitely introduce unwanted wear on the connections. Internal connections like the ones on hard drives are tested and rated for far fewer insertions than actual cartridges or cards that are designed to be removed and plugged back in over and over like that. I wouldn't be surprised if the connectors on the drives start having issues after only a few dozen or so insertions.
The AliExpress bug bit you too, huh?
Ah, yes, the perfect birthday present to end my birthday with, a new MJD video!!!
Here's some info about the compact fc and that sega clone. The compact fc is more or less popular in south america, in my country (argentina) it was a very popular option for how cheap it used to be. That's why the power brick is 220v. And the sega clone, that box and model in particular (lol even the yellow-ish buttons on the gamepad) was very, and i mean VERY popular in the late 90's and early to mid 2000's. only difference is the game cart that used to come with it was a 4-in-1 with usually 3 shit games and one good game.
It brings back some memories man. Brazil and other countries have always consumed clones due to nintendo and sega not oficially releasing their products in our region (well, brazil had an official deal with sega that allowed them to produce oficial sega consoles and games).
You should check how used are those hard drives with the program Crystal Disk Info
between the tetris cartridge nearly getting stuck, the chopped audio from sonic adventure and the PAL graphics issues on the last one, this might be one of the scariest mjd videos there is 😆 very fun to watch tho!!!
I'm a big fan of your channel and I never thought you would do a bootleg console review
I wonder if you can install regular Linux on the FC and use it as a Raspberry Pi alternative
You can, I run AArch64 on a SBC with the same exact specs after the device turned out to be... well, you watched the video.
Tengen Tetris remains my favorite version in NES, used to own a legit cartridge of that game but it was sold by my family a long time ago.
Aaah... Famiclons are pure childhood nostalgia in countries where Nintendo had no official distribution in the past.
Legends say that the best one was "Pegasus" sold in Poland in the early 1990s. Interestingly, it was sold legally, because after the fall of communism there was no copyright law yet. (later the distributor invested all his money in the food industry and became the largest producer of soda drinks).
The "Hyper Base FC" is a very interesting little mix of ideas. Its running EmuELEC which is a common operating system for handheld emulators, but the case design with the hard drive bay is very similar to the NESPi 4, a Raspberry Pi case that mimics the formfactor of the NES and uses a cartridge slot as a bay for 2.5" SATA SSDs. For $30 it's pretty decent, but for $100 it's absurd.
Seeing the F.C compact reminded me of the one my dad bought me, Remembered asking him for a SNES & NES and getting that bootleg. Oh well finding genuine ones are hella expensive and hard when barely exist in third world countries😭
This video was great. That Hyperbase FC console surprised me as well, it's actually pretty good considering you got it for just $30
HyperBase FC reminds me of my old retro console project on Raspberry pi 3, even the interface is kinda samey. So it is basically a box with retroarch in it as it's shell.
If someone know the Miniso chain of stores in China (which also available in Asia in general in some places) they have their own handheld consoles too. So I bought one just for collection and it have the same loader as consoles in the video - same music, more or less the same games collection
your videos are a lot of fun; it's weird how I've seen some of these before
I had the first console, way back in the 90s. In time I bought many cartridges, originals and bootlegs, and few more consoles when they breaked. At a moment, I had many games but I did not had any console because they broked and literally dissapeared from the market. Now I wish to have those games because I see that these clones came back again.
I have a famiclone that looks like a famicom but its brand is "home computer system". It had the same chips as a famicom (four 74lsxxx chips and a ppu and cpu) but i managed to fry them 😬. I replaced the board with a epoxy blob board from "Ending man terminator" and i sometimes use it.
You might be interested in some of those "retro handheld"s they have on there. RG35XX, R36S, Miyoo Mini Plus and so on. They can play a bunch of retro consoles.
I quite like that third one. Thanks for the video.
I'm certain that Hyper Base FC was running Batocera as a frontend.
EmuElec, which is CoreElec, except with an EmulationStation frontend instead of Kodi
3:50 China's "Type A" power outlets use plugs identical to NA ones but run at 50Hz/220V.
The hyper base fc concept is honestly intriguing. It would be fascinating to see a modern "cartridge" console utilize ssds or hdds as physical media
MJD! Love the collection of janky console emulators. Hope to see more in the future. Cheers, man. 🍻
woah that was early
usually your videos release at 9pm my time!!
Are the playstation games missing the cd audio? I have come across a few of these consoles that have hundreds of games without soundtracks to save space, which is a bit naughty tbh.
9:29
My AuDHD thanks you for putting the right channel audio in the left channel. That would have driven me crazy otherwise
That Hyperbase is awesome. I'm so getting one.
I have the retroflag case for my pi. It looks like a mini nes but the Cartridge bay works and fits sata, and Cartridge cases for the drives. It really is a pain to set something like this up yourself but far far better. Either way its best to atleast Google the O.S. so you understand how it works.
i have a meta portal mini. I'm wondering if you can install a different os here since its basically useless in my hands with its current custom android os. I would appreciate if you can make a video about it in the future.
17:44 Eggman: IM BACK IN THE EXHIBIT AGAIN, OMG
I had a famiclone as a kid who grew up in a small town in Mexico and i have alot of beautiful core memories of it.
Boxes similar to the Hyper Base FC are actually fairly common. My friend had one that was functionally about identical but came in a smaller form factor.
We need more videos like this!
the FC compact was one of the many models that were popular in latinamerica. I´m from Argentina and had that model as a kid. It can run famicom cartridges but is designed with the chinese cartridges in mind which are shorter and bulkier. Theres also the format and power output to consider so yeah basically is not meant for the USA market. Here? Man I want that, literally my childhood.
Hey Michael whats the health of the segate and hitachi hdds just asking if you tested them
also on your previous video, how much was that famicom in shipping from buyee because im trying to get a famicom from buyee.
love the dry af "definitely my favorite mario games" lmao
i was 100% down to watch you finish that game of Tetris my guy
So,
Copy/Paste all of the content on the drives to your pc and run games at full speed. Nothing illegal here.
You can select the region and between pal/ntsc using the Switches on the back of the Genesis 3 clone
I have one of the first famicom he showed off. The regular cartridges do eject if you put pressure on the eject button, harshly but it does eject, but at all costs try avoiding using Namcot collection cartridges (Pacman/Mappy/ect). Theyre too heavy and bulky for the thing to eject properly. I swear the console was gonna break from them. I'd suggest to just get a few of those 500 in 1 cartridges on this thing.
Any links to the aliexpress Hyper Base FC with the drives? I had a look and couldn't find it.
Wonder if the fc works with the disk system 🤔 might have to buy an fc and test it since I have 2 disk systems laying around
Nice thing you uploaded this, here comes the Nintendo police to shut these down lol
Did you find out the name of the linux os? I have an anbernic device with that same os on it, unsure of the name and have been extensively trying to find it
accurate Dreamcast emulation is a bit difficult, so when it comes to SA2 you should potentially try the GameCube version
are the controller ports on the GS4 the same as what is used for the SEGA Genesis?
Honestly I was kind of hoping for you to take apart the bootleg genesis. I really wanted to see it's insides.
love how the box for the GS4 said "2 joysticks" while refering to controllers, and then the controllers don't even have any sticks on them.
also i would've loved a close up of that board at 11:32. i mean it is very likely emulatation but doesn't seem like a regular modern ARM SoC as even the game select is done within what seems like NES limitations.
Famiclones often have an SOC that is more capable (by some metrics) than original hardware. Look up the VTxx series of NOAC hardware for some examples. Wouldnt quite call it emulation, kind of a weird in between situation
You can swap A>B under options in Emulationstation
Do any of these clone consoles that do AV out actually support 240p or is it 480i?
Looks like the Hyper base FC is no longer on amazon or aliexpress, kind of sucks, would have been nice to have all those games in one place. Do you have a link to the one you bought:)
hyperbase FC is kinda nice. i mean you could just plug those things into a pc and see what happens 2 new external drives that looks like game cartridges.. pretty em up with some game stickers lol.
Definitely pi based, those power plugs always come with pis, the switch plug. They work great.
The first Famiclone ones have the exact same music as my cheap "gameboy" Famiclone that i bought from AliExpress. 😂.
Also, Sonic Adventure 2 running slow could be because of that DC emulation core that is included in the system, maybe changing the core could help.
If I know something about bootleg consoles, most of them are famiclones. So those with cartridge slot that go after Famicom design will probably work fine.
And a tight slow could be worked on. Depends on if the tongues are too tight or the plastic. The metal can be bent and the plastic can be files.
The Genesis 3 feels like one for the south american market. Possibly Brazil or Argentina. Both run PAL and type C mains plug (like the one that came with it)
I got the mega is a Famicom clone with a sega Genesis like case.
Those were for when you didn't get for much back then before I had a k6-2 with emulators
love the content Michael keep it up :)
Does any of those take regular Famicom carts? Because I have bunch of multicarts without a way to play them.
FC compact... yeah, that SMB game is the PAL version running on NTSC.
the fc compact is close to what was the normal in south america, the famicom was known as "the family", everybody had it, most people din't have the north american version of nes, and we all had adaptors to use nes cartridges too.
The Hyperbase FC console’s interface looks like the Retrobat PC emulator interface.
I used to have a bootleg thing that was small and connected to the hdmi port of a tv and you had to connect a micro usb cable for power and had a SD card or something else I don't remember with games
The controllers had turbo buttons built in so that was nice but the emulation was really bad
I need a video about Microsoft Encarta, that could be a nice video