That Hyper Base FC is a really neat idea that definitely feels like a work of passion by someone. I'm really impressed by the laptop hard drive cartridge idea
@@D0SMIC It's called a NESPi 4. They were on Amazon but last I checked they're currently out of stock. The company that makes them is called Retroflag, they make a few Pi cases shaped like Nintendos but only the "4" version uses the hard drive cartridges.
In Latin America, the NES was like a hidden treasure: expensive and hard to find. Nintendo didn't sell it here, so clones appeared: cheaper "pirate" consoles full of Spanish-language games. Why didn't Nintendo bring it? Maybe they thought there wasn't enough money here. Wrong! The clones were a total success and millions of people enjoyed video games for the first time. Were the clones bad? Some were, but others were great and even had their own games. In addition, thanks to them, a Latin American video game industry was born. In short, NES clones were a creative response to Nintendo's absence in Latin America. They brought us joy, fun, and taught us that with ingenuity, anything is possible.
I know that Brasil had tariffs on non-Brazilian consoles and electronics, it's why Tech Toy produced Master Systems under licence rather than importing them. Nintendo liked to control its entire manufacturing process (carts were built by Nintendo and publishers/developers had to buy them off Nintendo).
Chilean here, the NES officially came out in 1991, and the SNES came the following year. They were expensive, but they were officially here. They couldn't release the NES earlier due to the dictatorship, but some consoles were imported from the USA since the late 80's. Bootlegs also appeared around the same time those imported consoles started appearing in here.
80's Latin America couldn't afford real NES prices. 🤷 Bringing it over wouldn't have made sense for Nintendo with how small the population that could actually afford it would be. They'd have to dramatically cut their prices & thus margins to get it to sell, making the operation pointless. Cheap Famiclones could be manufactured and sold at much lower costs to Nintendo's first party hardware, especially later on in the early 90's.
Honestly that Hyperbase seems like an insane deal. $30 is worth it for the drives alone, considering i've seen similar emulation drives on amazon for twice the price.
The FC compact and similars were sold in countries like Argentina. In the 90s we have a lot of bootlegs like that, and that product was to give some nostalgic to the people who bought it.
I have this console almost 2 year old I play it to this day this is my only console I have but man its work original cartridge all of my cartridges includes my double dribble.
You (or anyone reading this) can get a similar experience by logging onto aliexpress and spending 10-25 dollars on an Android TV box. Be warned, these TV boxes are massive pieces of crap, and are *incredibly* easy to brick, but they're fun in that respect, and actual usable computing devices if you can trick them into booting an SD card. Armbian is your best bet, people in the community make images for TV boxes, but the hardware varies wildly so yours may not work fully. My recommendation: get a rockchip (RK32xx/33xx) based one, they're marginally easier to work with. They usually have the CPU listed somewhere in the description but sometimes they just outright fucking lie to you
well you can buy any android puck/stick or if you have a newish tv just run the emulators on the tv itself. if you just want to buy a bunch of roms on a disk you can do that too, but you could just torrent them yourself too(possibly on the tv itself even)
@@Kwpolska1. you'd be surprised how slow some computers made in the past 10 years are 2. it's cheap, small, and already set up for the average consumer
Hyperbase A1 is a 256GB version with 46k games that’s available now. It’s like a memory bank mot than the ADV displayed in the video. £158 in UK on eBay. Literally just bought one now. Great value and no messing around with looking for old consoles.
@@fortitudevalance8424 You do know you can just get Retroarch for any android tablet or phone or your laptop or any other device you already have, and play anything you want, right?
Emuelec does have network support mostly for transferring games from another pc but it can be used for anything since it's just linux and has any of the same drivers
Common mistake with Retroarch based systems and performance. You can change cores and options in Retroarch, you have to try around a bit with what works best for the games but you can get a lot of games playable and more with some effort.
As an aside, that 60Hz option on Sonic Adventure 2 is for European owners to output the game in PAL 60 on compatible televisions. Nowadays with the days of analogue television and CRT's behind us, everything runs in 60Hz or above in Europe (though television broadcasts still run at 50Hz).
Isn't PAL 60 pretty much NTSC though? It's the same resolution and refresh rate as NTSC and the colours look a little different compared to PAL. We should just switch to 60fps in Europe, no one watches broadcasts anymore and on demand content is all converted to 30 fps for some stupid reason which makes the playback all jittery, even 24fps video is sped up to 25fps for PAL and then converted to 30fps for on demand when they could just leave it at 24.
@@talibong9518 It is the same resolution and refresh rate but the colour coding is that of PAL. We use 60fps (60Hz) in Europe for computing and Internet content, the 50fps/25fps interlaced we use for digital television is just a hangover of when analogue televisions matched the output of the power grid. In Japan where they have both 50 and 60Hz grids depending on where in the country you are, they standardised NTSC and its field rate. When regular TV broadcasts were introduced in Japan, electrical engineering had progressed to a point where you wouldn't get screen flicker with the wrong frequency so a TV could happily work on either 50 or 60Hz. Europe waited until the Internet and Plasma/LCD/LED TV to make a switch for media content.
@@talibong9518The most watched broadcast in the Netherlands here on TV was in 2021, so people are definitely still watching broadcasts, even if you aren't.
@@talibong9518 PAL60 is a hack that worked on some PAL CRTs. It uses the NTSC scanline resolution, but still uses the PAL color burst frequency. (If it didn't, you wouldn't get color at all). I don't believe PAL60 was ever used for broadcast. It was just a hack that certain VCRs used to play back NTSC VHS tapes, and later used by consoles to play 60Hz video games on a PAL television. And the standards use 25 or 50Hz for digital broadcast to retain backwards compatibility. It meant TVs could retain compatibility with older analog broadcasts. It makes it easier to digitize old content, without needing to worry about adding in extra frames. And no increased bandwidth from doing so. Sure, that's less of a concern today. But then every TV you guys use is set up to use PAL, so changing it now isn't really worth it. Especially as broadcast TV is declining in favor of watching content online.
@@talibong9518 The jitter on 24p is on most US apps too. It's called the 3:2 pulldown, every third frame is held for 2 frames to make 30fps. A few devices and apps offer a match frame-rate mode (my Chromecast with Google TV does) but it's depends on the TV and the app on whether it works and it depends on the original files being stored at the correct frame-rate too. Many people prefer sped up films over judder, so there's no way to please everyone. Plus, programmes have been archived at 50fps for years. The only way it could be possible is if we drop all support for SD broadcasts and the switch-off of has only just started here in the UK (and there's no timeframe for when it should be completed either, the BBC have but the majority of channels on Sky still broadcast using low bitrate MPEG2).
ahhh, this is so nostalgic, I love so much those Famicom clones. I remember that (at least here in Chile) back in the day was needed to buy a separate power adapter because the one in the box overheated so much that just starts to melt itself and the console powers off
the GS4 immediately reminded me of my PolyStation. I wonder if the Spanish manual means the primary target of that console was the Paraguayan border town trade, and not the US / English speaking part of the world
Someone has probably pointed this out already, but if not; with the Sega Genesis bootleg, it's very odd that they've named it as a Sega Genesis on the box, considering here in the UK and EU/PAL region, it was known only as the Sega Mega Drive, and it definitely seems to be giving a PAL output. Just, really odd.
It's obviously made to work off of a British shaver socket so you play it while pooping! Seriously though I think they're made for 200v Japanese outlets, probably got them super cheap and just threw them in the box without checking the input voltage.
Cuba has outlets that fit north american plugs but are over 200V. I don't know what region that thing was made for but it sure wasn't the US 😂 Most generic AC to DC power bricks are multi-voltage nowadays so I was pretty surprised by that
The "Hyper Base FC" is a very interesting little mix of ideas. Its running EmuELEC which is a common operating system for handheld emulators, but the case design with the hard drive bay is very similar to the NESPi 4, a Raspberry Pi case that mimics the formfactor of the NES and uses a cartridge slot as a bay for 2.5" SATA SSDs. For $30 it's pretty decent, but for $100 it's absurd.
In 90s, Famiclones were extremely popular in East Europe. You could buy them everywhere, including cartridges full of pirated games. Nintendo didn't care at all. Famiclones always used 9 pin Dsub connector for controllers.
The connectors was also 15-pin. My first famiclone used 15 pin connectors and the joysticks broke very quickly, but the joysticks bought separately never worked. So we bought another Famiclone with 9 pin connectors
@@Vista0279 The reason why I threw it away is because it broke right after I unplugged it while it was still powered on, but I can't remember the date of that event
The first one doesn't look *too* surprising to me. It's kinda similar to those Dendy consoles we had in Russia in the 90s. I was relatively adult when I found out that NES and Famicom were a thing.
HyperBase FC reminds me of my old retro console project on Raspberry pi 3, even the interface is kinda samey. So it is basically a box with retroarch in it as it's shell.
I got the FC Compact famiclone (I live in South Africa where you can buy famiclones in retail stores since the 80s), and it was great at helping me fix my real Famicom since some of the plastic components are identical 😄
I had the first console, way back in the 90s. In time I bought many cartridges, originals and bootlegs, and few more consoles when they breaked. At a moment, I had many games but I did not had any console because they broked and literally dissapeared from the market. Now I wish to have those games because I see that these clones came back again.
"Just be prepared for Nintendo to come knocking at your door." Me: You'll never get me Nintendo; I'm not coming out, see? I have a vast supply of snacks and drinks in my bedroom!
One thing sould be noted about the ones like the hyper base fc. Do NOT connect them to your network. And make sure you're scanning usbs you take from it before you use files you've had on the device.
What really upsets me is that things like the GS4 will easily confuse older people. Imagine Grandma seeing one in a corner shop somewhere and thinking that the kids have been talking about wanting "one of those gameboxes" for ages. Then she buys a knockoff unknowingly.
Love how these are so common to a good part of the world but not first world countries where they're starting to become collectable, even. And I'm also surprised not many outside of these low cost devices niche know about EmuELEC, or these SBCs. I own one and it was simply terrible, PS1 ran terribly slow and no games had music, so in the end I discovered it had come with Android 8, and from that point I knew I could do something more. I wiped the 64GB SD card included and installed AArch64, which is Arch Linux for ARM devices, and use it as a little server, since those specs are so bad for anything other than that. The controllers it came with serve as backup USB options, because imagine deadzone, now think thrice as much. Cheers, and take care :)
The Family Computer was my original console since that's what they sold here in the Philippines in the 80s and early 90s instead of the NES version. Seeing one always makes me smile.
I definitely wouldn't trust those drives for long-term use. Not only are they older mechanical drives (which isn't always the end of the world, but you can never be sure, and that inconsistency is the problem) but using them as if they were cartridges will definitely introduce unwanted wear on the connections. Internal connections like the ones on hard drives are tested and rated for far fewer insertions than actual cartridges or cards that are designed to be removed and plugged back in over and over like that. I wouldn't be surprised if the connectors on the drives start having issues after only a few dozen or so insertions.
between the tetris cartridge nearly getting stuck, the chopped audio from sonic adventure and the PAL graphics issues on the last one, this might be one of the scariest mjd videos there is 😆 very fun to watch tho!!!
The hypebase is surprisingly legit. I wouldn't even be mad if someone bought me that. Its menus and how it looks on screen ironically should have been what the GS4 was tbh but its nor.
Seeing the F.C compact reminded me of the one my dad bought me, Remembered asking him for a SNES & NES and getting that bootleg. Oh well finding genuine ones are hella expensive and hard when barely exist in third world countries😭
I have a famiclone that looks like a famicom but its brand is "home computer system". It had the same chips as a famicom (four 74lsxxx chips and a ppu and cpu) but i managed to fry them 😬. I replaced the board with a epoxy blob board from "Ending man terminator" and i sometimes use it.
Here's some info about the compact fc and that sega clone. The compact fc is more or less popular in south america, in my country (argentina) it was a very popular option for how cheap it used to be. That's why the power brick is 220v. And the sega clone, that box and model in particular (lol even the yellow-ish buttons on the gamepad) was very, and i mean VERY popular in the late 90's and early to mid 2000's. only difference is the game cart that used to come with it was a 4-in-1 with usually 3 shit games and one good game. It brings back some memories man. Brazil and other countries have always consumed clones due to nintendo and sega not oficially releasing their products in our region (well, brazil had an official deal with sega that allowed them to produce oficial sega consoles and games).
Dreamcast is notoriously hard to emulate even in the best conditions (a common saying is "the best dreamcast emulator is a dreamcast") so it even launching is kinda impressive
5:15 it's definitively a PAL/NTSC issue. See, SMB was not REALLY optimized for pal but booting the PAL rom on an NTSC systems makes the game run at double speed.
I unironically love bootleg consoles, at least ones that aren't just another emulation box. I love when they put their own crappy original games on there.
hard to get a actual good one, as a lot of them are just "copycats" with very cheap hardware in them which will fail later on quite easily. Better off just buying a pre-built emulator external harddrive 8TB-20TB with all the complete collections of games/consoles and connect it with a mini box PC(higher end AMD mini gpu, 400$), at least with a PC yoiu can actually configure all the controls and emulators easily that it comes with..
the FC compact was one of the many models that were popular in latinamerica. I´m from Argentina and had that model as a kid. It can run famicom cartridges but is designed with the chinese cartridges in mind which are shorter and bulkier. Theres also the format and power output to consider so yeah basically is not meant for the USA market. Here? Man I want that, literally my childhood.
In Poland we had Pegasus famiclone console. I actually haven't had any idea that it was not the real thing until I was a teen and we got the internet installed in our house. No idea about NES, No idea about Famicom. Just Pegasus. Interestingly, you would have to buy every single game on a separate cartridge making it seem like a real console to many children like me back in the days. I think there WERE some of those '300 in 1' carts available as well but I remember them not working very well. The best place to get that 'console' and the carts for me was Russian open air markets at the weekends, the place where all the bootlegs of everything you can imagine were sold. Good times lol
If someone know the Miniso chain of stores in China (which also available in Asia in general in some places) they have their own handheld consoles too. So I bought one just for collection and it have the same loader as consoles in the video - same music, more or less the same games collection
i find it funny that the fake genesis uses the exact same clone hardware as official genesis clones made by atgames. makes me think that atgames bought the clone hardware on surplus and rebadged it themselves with an official sega license
I love the way it uses cartridges to swap HDDs, imagine a mini PC using the same idea, but each cartridge has a 120 or 240 GB SSD with a steam library folder containing one or more games. And when you plug one in it pops up a frontend allowing you to select which game to launch. I miss cartridges.
I use gamestick. Has 20000 games inside, very small so it's like smaller size than Nintendo Switch and it is plugs in with HDMI cable (ps1, gba, GB, gbc, atari (2600 e.t.c), nes, snes,) also it's controllers are wireless and they could be connected to other devices which made me very happy due to no N64 emulator :( UPD: i forgot to say there are two versions pro and lite and i have them all 😔 lite is just not enough
Boxes similar to the Hyper Base FC are actually fairly common. My friend had one that was functionally about identical but came in a smaller form factor.
hyperbase FC is kinda nice. i mean you could just plug those things into a pc and see what happens 2 new external drives that looks like game cartridges.. pretty em up with some game stickers lol.
I want somebody out there to make a Famiclone being advertised to be a licensed product by Nintendo, bundled in with Bluetooth Controller ports of any kind, a warped yet pleasant menu consisting of 30 games (maybe 5 extra) and very little else.
I have the retroflag case for my pi. It looks like a mini nes but the Cartridge bay works and fits sata, and Cartridge cases for the drives. It really is a pain to set something like this up yourself but far far better. Either way its best to atleast Google the O.S. so you understand how it works.
the Hyper Base reminds me of a console i had as a wee lad in south africa called the Dragon 500. And it had all manner of games on cartridges, and majority of em were compilations of like 800 games in 1 but 700 of 800 games is same games but with different names, different character, or different levels. I distinctly remember Lunar Ball Games, there was like 20 different Lunar Balls, with all sorta different names. And all it was was Lunar Ball starting on say stage 5 instead of 1. Watching a little more that first one you opened looks almost exactly like it but it had red buttons. Bright red buttons, and where it says family computer it said Dragon 500.
You should have chose the hero story... That first sonic level is THE BEST Edit: Awwww.... That song is the best. Sucks the emulation struggled with it.
Aaah... Famiclons are pure childhood nostalgia in countries where Nintendo had no official distribution in the past. Legends say that the best one was "Pegasus" sold in Poland in the early 1990s. Interestingly, it was sold legally, because after the fall of communism there was no copyright law yet. (later the distributor invested all his money in the food industry and became the largest producer of soda drinks).
love how the box for the GS4 said "2 joysticks" while refering to controllers, and then the controllers don't even have any sticks on them. also i would've loved a close up of that board at 11:32. i mean it is very likely emulatation but doesn't seem like a regular modern ARM SoC as even the game select is done within what seems like NES limitations.
Famiclones often have an SOC that is more capable (by some metrics) than original hardware. Look up the VTxx series of NOAC hardware for some examples. Wouldnt quite call it emulation, kind of a weird in between situation
If I know something about bootleg consoles, most of them are famiclones. So those with cartridge slot that go after Famicom design will probably work fine. And a tight slow could be worked on. Depends on if the tongues are too tight or the plastic. The metal can be bent and the plastic can be files. The Genesis 3 feels like one for the south american market. Possibly Brazil or Argentina. Both run PAL and type C mains plug (like the one that came with it)
The first Famiclone ones have the exact same music as my cheap "gameboy" Famiclone that i bought from AliExpress. 😂. Also, Sonic Adventure 2 running slow could be because of that DC emulation core that is included in the system, maybe changing the core could help.
i remember having an nes labeled “entertainment system” and the controller ports looked like vga output ports (they werent tho) and it worked via aux cable
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That Hyper Base FC is a really neat idea that definitely feels like a work of passion by someone. I'm really impressed by the laptop hard drive cartridge idea
Highly illegal, but awesome nonetheless.
I've got a Raspberry Pi case that works very similarly, shaped like an NES with a "cartridge" slot that takes an encased 2.5" SATA.
@@asteroidrulesdo you have the link for the raspberry pi case? I would love to get one as well!
@@D0SMIC It's called a NESPi 4. They were on Amazon but last I checked they're currently out of stock. The company that makes them is called Retroflag, they make a few Pi cases shaped like Nintendos but only the "4" version uses the hard drive cartridges.
id buy it. i cant find it tho
In Latin America, the NES was like a hidden treasure: expensive and hard to find. Nintendo didn't sell it here, so clones appeared: cheaper "pirate" consoles full of Spanish-language games.
Why didn't Nintendo bring it? Maybe they thought there wasn't enough money here. Wrong! The clones were a total success and millions of people enjoyed video games for the first time.
Were the clones bad? Some were, but others were great and even had their own games. In addition, thanks to them, a Latin American video game industry was born.
In short, NES clones were a creative response to Nintendo's absence in Latin America. They brought us joy, fun, and taught us that with ingenuity, anything is possible.
I know that Brasil had tariffs on non-Brazilian consoles and electronics, it's why Tech Toy produced Master Systems under licence rather than importing them. Nintendo liked to control its entire manufacturing process (carts were built by Nintendo and publishers/developers had to buy them off Nintendo).
Chilean here, the NES officially came out in 1991, and the SNES came the following year. They were expensive, but they were officially here.
They couldn't release the NES earlier due to the dictatorship, but some consoles were imported from the USA since the late 80's. Bootlegs also appeared around the same time those imported consoles started appearing in here.
@@Metal_Maxine y la única megadrive con hdmi
I remember having an OG NES not a clone when I was kid here in Venezuela. It was like 93-94 I think
80's Latin America couldn't afford real NES prices. 🤷 Bringing it over wouldn't have made sense for Nintendo with how small the population that could actually afford it would be. They'd have to dramatically cut their prices & thus margins to get it to sell, making the operation pointless. Cheap Famiclones could be manufactured and sold at much lower costs to Nintendo's first party hardware, especially later on in the early 90's.
Honestly that Hyperbase seems like an insane deal.
$30 is worth it for the drives alone, considering i've seen similar emulation drives on amazon for twice the price.
it actually costs around $160. i have no idea how he got one for 30
The FC compact and similars were sold in countries like Argentina. In the 90s we have a lot of bootlegs like that, and that product was to give some nostalgic to the people who bought it.
Yeah I feel the same
So that explains people talking about the "Family" console, always thought it was strange for a Famicom to come here
Yeah, famiclones in the 90's had a surprisingly good quality in Argentina, often having components that the original Famicom had. This is a cheap NOAC
¡Aguante los sabados de Street Fighter en la Family, vieja! 🥲
I have this console almost 2 year old I play it to this day this is my only console I have but man its work original cartridge all of my cartridges includes my double dribble.
Trying to use that HyperBase FC as some kind of actual computer would be pretty interesting I think LMAO
They are usually based on some kind of Android TV box, i.e. unused chips for cellphones. Definitely would run some tiny linux distro.
@@aleksazunjic9672 It's running EmuELEC so it's definitely ARM-based, a minimal debian or just raspbian would most likely work
@@Calajese and with a more open platform the newer consoles might emulate a bit better after going through the settings.
No cap lol
You (or anyone reading this) can get a similar experience by logging onto aliexpress and spending 10-25 dollars on an Android TV box. Be warned, these TV boxes are massive pieces of crap, and are *incredibly* easy to brick, but they're fun in that respect, and actual usable computing devices if you can trick them into booting an SD card. Armbian is your best bet, people in the community make images for TV boxes, but the hardware varies wildly so yours may not work fully.
My recommendation: get a rockchip (RK32xx/33xx) based one, they're marginally easier to work with. They usually have the CPU listed somewhere in the description but sometimes they just outright fucking lie to you
one time my dad bought 2 crappy dropshipped bootleg consoles that barely worked because he fell for a facebook marketplace ad
Oof
drop shipping is literally the worst
Do you still have the consoles ? XD
I mean at least his heart was in the right place but yeah that sucks
the playman
The Hyperbase seems like a good deal if you just want retro games.
well you can buy any android puck/stick or if you have a newish tv just run the emulators on the tv itself.
if you just want to buy a bunch of roms on a disk you can do that too, but you could just torrent them yourself too(possibly on the tv itself even)
Why would you buy that if any PC manufactured in the past 10 years can handle those games better?
@@Kwpolska1. you'd be surprised how slow some computers made in the past 10 years are
2. it's cheap, small, and already set up for the average consumer
@@Kwpolskapcs are much bigger, heavier and power hungry than a raspberry in a famicom plastic shell
WHAT IF YOU LIKE HARRY POTTER GAMES?
I have a Hyperbase FC (got it for a similar price) a while ago and ironically it is something I still play with today lol.
But does it have network support?
@@Vednier Good question. I have not attempted to use the android part or connected to my network.
Hyperbase A1 is a 256GB version with 46k games that’s available now. It’s like a memory bank mot than the ADV displayed in the video. £158 in UK on eBay. Literally just bought one now. Great value and no messing around with looking for old consoles.
@@fortitudevalance8424 You do know you can just get Retroarch for any android tablet or phone or your laptop or any other device you already have, and play anything you want, right?
Emuelec does have network support mostly for transferring games from another pc but it can be used for anything since it's just linux and has any of the same drivers
Hyper Base FC: To quit a game with no confirmation, select+start. That's default in retroarch
Common mistake with Retroarch based systems and performance. You can change cores and options in Retroarch, you have to try around a bit with what works best for the games but you can get a lot of games playable and more with some effort.
As an aside, that 60Hz option on Sonic Adventure 2 is for European owners to output the game in PAL 60 on compatible televisions. Nowadays with the days of analogue television and CRT's behind us, everything runs in 60Hz or above in Europe (though television broadcasts still run at 50Hz).
Isn't PAL 60 pretty much NTSC though? It's the same resolution and refresh rate as NTSC and the colours look a little different compared to PAL. We should just switch to 60fps in Europe, no one watches broadcasts anymore and on demand content is all converted to 30 fps for some stupid reason which makes the playback all jittery, even 24fps video is sped up to 25fps for PAL and then converted to 30fps for on demand when they could just leave it at 24.
@@talibong9518 It is the same resolution and refresh rate but the colour coding is that of PAL. We use 60fps (60Hz) in Europe for computing and Internet content, the 50fps/25fps interlaced we use for digital television is just a hangover of when analogue televisions matched the output of the power grid. In Japan where they have both 50 and 60Hz grids depending on where in the country you are, they standardised NTSC and its field rate. When regular TV broadcasts were introduced in Japan, electrical engineering had progressed to a point where you wouldn't get screen flicker with the wrong frequency so a TV could happily work on either 50 or 60Hz. Europe waited until the Internet and Plasma/LCD/LED TV to make a switch for media content.
@@talibong9518The most watched broadcast in the Netherlands here on TV was in 2021, so people are definitely still watching broadcasts, even if you aren't.
@@talibong9518 PAL60 is a hack that worked on some PAL CRTs. It uses the NTSC scanline resolution, but still uses the PAL color burst frequency. (If it didn't, you wouldn't get color at all).
I don't believe PAL60 was ever used for broadcast. It was just a hack that certain VCRs used to play back NTSC VHS tapes, and later used by consoles to play 60Hz video games on a PAL television.
And the standards use 25 or 50Hz for digital broadcast to retain backwards compatibility. It meant TVs could retain compatibility with older analog broadcasts. It makes it easier to digitize old content, without needing to worry about adding in extra frames. And no increased bandwidth from doing so.
Sure, that's less of a concern today. But then every TV you guys use is set up to use PAL, so changing it now isn't really worth it. Especially as broadcast TV is declining in favor of watching content online.
@@talibong9518 The jitter on 24p is on most US apps too. It's called the 3:2 pulldown, every third frame is held for 2 frames to make 30fps. A few devices and apps offer a match frame-rate mode (my Chromecast with Google TV does) but it's depends on the TV and the app on whether it works and it depends on the original files being stored at the correct frame-rate too. Many people prefer sped up films over judder, so there's no way to please everyone.
Plus, programmes have been archived at 50fps for years. The only way it could be possible is if we drop all support for SD broadcasts and the switch-off of has only just started here in the UK (and there's no timeframe for when it should be completed either, the BBC have but the majority of channels on Sky still broadcast using low bitrate MPEG2).
ahhh, this is so nostalgic, I love so much those Famicom clones. I remember that (at least here in Chile) back in the day was needed to buy a separate power adapter because the one in the box overheated so much that just starts to melt itself and the console powers off
Probably every Brazillian knows the PolyStation 😂
the GS4 immediately reminded me of my PolyStation. I wonder if the Spanish manual means the primary target of that console was the Paraguayan border town trade, and not the US / English speaking part of the world
PolyStation was also very popular in Poland.
What about PCP?
Most Latin America too
@@23kijekYou mean clone of an "original" clone - Pegasus?
The ribbon cables on that GS4 evidently have heat insulating peanut butter on the ribbon cables inside it, very ahead of it's time
Someone has probably pointed this out already, but if not; with the Sega Genesis bootleg, it's very odd that they've named it as a Sega Genesis on the box, considering here in the UK and EU/PAL region, it was known only as the Sega Mega Drive, and it definitely seems to be giving a PAL output. Just, really odd.
And it's especially odd given that the Model 3 was only released in North America.
It’s not a bootleg!!!
I like the part where the power adapter uses an American power connector when it requires European voltage. Very well thought out.
It's obviously made to work off of a British shaver socket so you play it while pooping! Seriously though I think they're made for 200v Japanese outlets, probably got them super cheap and just threw them in the box without checking the input voltage.
Cuba has outlets that fit north american plugs but are over 200V. I don't know what region that thing was made for but it sure wasn't the US 😂 Most generic AC to DC power bricks are multi-voltage nowadays so I was pretty surprised by that
Its for latin american markets
Other countries use that connector with different voltages. It's not just a US connector.
Latin america uses same outlet but higher voltage so it's because of that
Those mario graphics from the FC Compact hurt me so bad...
it is so crispy.. 🤣
the FC compact is my main nes device, it works extremely well for its price, not to mention the cartridge slot
it's very hard to find quality nes alternatives in poor countries
The "Hyper Base FC" is a very interesting little mix of ideas. Its running EmuELEC which is a common operating system for handheld emulators, but the case design with the hard drive bay is very similar to the NESPi 4, a Raspberry Pi case that mimics the formfactor of the NES and uses a cartridge slot as a bay for 2.5" SATA SSDs. For $30 it's pretty decent, but for $100 it's absurd.
In 90s, Famiclones were extremely popular in East Europe. You could buy them everywhere, including cartridges full of pirated games. Nintendo didn't care at all. Famiclones always used 9 pin Dsub connector for controllers.
The connectors was also 15-pin. My first famiclone used 15 pin connectors and the joysticks broke very quickly, but the joysticks bought separately never worked. So we bought another Famiclone with 9 pin connectors
That "GS4" reminded me of that "NANICA STATION 4" that I got back in 2018, but later got thrown away 3 years later
Why did you throw it away? Lol
@@Vista0279 The reason why I threw it away is because it broke right after I unplugged it while it was still powered on, but I can't remember the date of that event
Nanica lol... it's something.
The first one doesn't look *too* surprising to me. It's kinda similar to those Dendy consoles we had in Russia in the 90s. I was relatively adult when I found out that NES and Famicom were a thing.
that hyper base fc i would probably actually buy! the other ones on the other hand are crap!
The Hyper Base FC is amazing
Agreed
The AliExpress bug bit you too, huh?
HyperBase FC reminds me of my old retro console project on Raspberry pi 3, even the interface is kinda samey. So it is basically a box with retroarch in it as it's shell.
The Hyper Base doesn’t look too bad. I’d buy this for retro gaming
I got the FC Compact famiclone (I live in South Africa where you can buy famiclones in retail stores since the 80s), and it was great at helping me fix my real Famicom since some of the plastic components are identical 😄
The sequel we needed!
I had the first console, way back in the 90s. In time I bought many cartridges, originals and bootlegs, and few more consoles when they breaked. At a moment, I had many games but I did not had any console because they broked and literally dissapeared from the market. Now I wish to have those games because I see that these clones came back again.
Fc compact got the tight slot and that is good because don't glitch if you move the cartridge. Greeting from Argentina
"Just be prepared for Nintendo to come knocking at your door." Me: You'll never get me Nintendo; I'm not coming out, see? I have a vast supply of snacks and drinks in my bedroom!
One thing sould be noted about the ones like the hyper base fc. Do NOT connect them to your network. And make sure you're scanning usbs you take from it before you use files you've had on the device.
Thank you so much for these fantastic videos, MJD! I love them so much you are my favourite youtuber!
What really upsets me is that things like the GS4 will easily confuse older people. Imagine Grandma seeing one in a corner shop somewhere and thinking that the kids have been talking about wanting "one of those gameboxes" for ages. Then she buys a knockoff unknowingly.
Love how these are so common to a good part of the world but not first world countries where they're starting to become collectable, even. And I'm also surprised not many outside of these low cost devices niche know about EmuELEC, or these SBCs.
I own one and it was simply terrible, PS1 ran terribly slow and no games had music, so in the end I discovered it had come with Android 8, and from that point I knew I could do something more. I wiped the 64GB SD card included and installed AArch64, which is Arch Linux for ARM devices, and use it as a little server, since those specs are so bad for anything other than that. The controllers it came with serve as backup USB options, because imagine deadzone, now think thrice as much.
Cheers, and take care :)
The Family Computer was my original console since that's what they sold here in the Philippines in the 80s and early 90s instead of the NES version.
Seeing one always makes me smile.
I'm certain that Hyper Base FC was running Batocera as a frontend.
EmuElec, which is CoreElec, except with an EmulationStation frontend instead of Kodi
FC Compact is such a terrible name.
i have the exact same console, it's a near empty plastic shell with a small piece of circuit board in it
@@clementpoon120Nes on a chip?
@@killerbee2562 *in a blob
SHOULD BE CALLED THE HARRY POTTER GAME BOX LOL
I definitely wouldn't trust those drives for long-term use. Not only are they older mechanical drives (which isn't always the end of the world, but you can never be sure, and that inconsistency is the problem) but using them as if they were cartridges will definitely introduce unwanted wear on the connections. Internal connections like the ones on hard drives are tested and rated for far fewer insertions than actual cartridges or cards that are designed to be removed and plugged back in over and over like that. I wouldn't be surprised if the connectors on the drives start having issues after only a few dozen or so insertions.
between the tetris cartridge nearly getting stuck, the chopped audio from sonic adventure and the PAL graphics issues on the last one, this might be one of the scariest mjd videos there is 😆 very fun to watch tho!!!
You should check how used are those hard drives with the program Crystal Disk Info
Nice vid like always Micheal! I am a huge fan of your channel.
The hypebase is surprisingly legit. I wouldn't even be mad if someone bought me that. Its menus and how it looks on screen ironically should have been what the GS4 was tbh but its nor.
Seeing the F.C compact reminded me of the one my dad bought me, Remembered asking him for a SNES & NES and getting that bootleg. Oh well finding genuine ones are hella expensive and hard when barely exist in third world countries😭
I have a famiclone that looks like a famicom but its brand is "home computer system". It had the same chips as a famicom (four 74lsxxx chips and a ppu and cpu) but i managed to fry them 😬. I replaced the board with a epoxy blob board from "Ending man terminator" and i sometimes use it.
Here's some info about the compact fc and that sega clone. The compact fc is more or less popular in south america, in my country (argentina) it was a very popular option for how cheap it used to be. That's why the power brick is 220v. And the sega clone, that box and model in particular (lol even the yellow-ish buttons on the gamepad) was very, and i mean VERY popular in the late 90's and early to mid 2000's. only difference is the game cart that used to come with it was a 4-in-1 with usually 3 shit games and one good game.
It brings back some memories man. Brazil and other countries have always consumed clones due to nintendo and sega not oficially releasing their products in our region (well, brazil had an official deal with sega that allowed them to produce oficial sega consoles and games).
Ah, yes, the perfect birthday present to end my birthday with, a new MJD video!!!
Dreamcast is notoriously hard to emulate even in the best conditions (a common saying is "the best dreamcast emulator is a dreamcast") so it even launching is kinda impressive
It was only Genesis in America because another company had the mega drive name.
5:15 it's definitively a PAL/NTSC issue.
See, SMB was not REALLY optimized for pal but booting the PAL rom on an NTSC systems makes the game run at double speed.
I unironically love bootleg consoles, at least ones that aren't just another emulation box. I love when they put their own crappy original games on there.
hard to get a actual good one, as a lot of them are just "copycats" with very cheap hardware in them which will fail later on quite easily. Better off just buying a pre-built emulator external harddrive 8TB-20TB with all the complete collections of games/consoles and connect it with a mini box PC(higher end AMD mini gpu, 400$), at least with a PC yoiu can actually configure all the controls and emulators easily that it comes with..
the FC compact was one of the many models that were popular in latinamerica. I´m from Argentina and had that model as a kid. It can run famicom cartridges but is designed with the chinese cartridges in mind which are shorter and bulkier. Theres also the format and power output to consider so yeah basically is not meant for the USA market. Here? Man I want that, literally my childhood.
your videos are a lot of fun; it's weird how I've seen some of these before
The hyper base fc concept is honestly intriguing. It would be fascinating to see a modern "cartridge" console utilize ssds or hdds as physical media
Tengen Tetris remains my favorite version in NES, used to own a legit cartridge of that game but it was sold by my family a long time ago.
This video was great. That Hyperbase FC console surprised me as well, it's actually pretty good considering you got it for just $30
I'm a big fan of your channel and I never thought you would do a bootleg console review
In Poland we had Pegasus famiclone console. I actually haven't had any idea that it was not the real thing until I was a teen and we got the internet installed in our house. No idea about NES, No idea about Famicom. Just Pegasus. Interestingly, you would have to buy every single game on a separate cartridge making it seem like a real console to many children like me back in the days. I think there WERE some of those '300 in 1' carts available as well but I remember them not working very well. The best place to get that 'console' and the carts for me was Russian open air markets at the weekends, the place where all the bootlegs of everything you can imagine were sold. Good times lol
3:50 China's "Type A" power outlets use plugs identical to NA ones but run at 50Hz/220V.
If someone know the Miniso chain of stores in China (which also available in Asia in general in some places) they have their own handheld consoles too. So I bought one just for collection and it have the same loader as consoles in the video - same music, more or less the same games collection
i find it funny that the fake genesis uses the exact same clone hardware as official genesis clones made by atgames. makes me think that atgames bought the clone hardware on surplus and rebadged it themselves with an official sega license
9:29
My AuDHD thanks you for putting the right channel audio in the left channel. That would have driven me crazy otherwise
I love the way it uses cartridges to swap HDDs, imagine a mini PC using the same idea, but each cartridge has a 120 or 240 GB SSD with a steam library folder containing one or more games. And when you plug one in it pops up a frontend allowing you to select which game to launch. I miss cartridges.
Honestly I was kind of hoping for you to take apart the bootleg genesis. I really wanted to see it's insides.
Michael MJD is da best channel i have ever subscribed to
The Hyperbase FC console’s interface looks like the Retrobat PC emulator interface.
I use gamestick. Has 20000 games inside, very small so it's like smaller size than Nintendo Switch and it is plugs in with HDMI cable (ps1, gba, GB, gbc, atari (2600 e.t.c), nes, snes,) also it's controllers are wireless and they could be connected to other devices which made me very happy due to no N64 emulator :( UPD: i forgot to say there are two versions pro and lite and i have them all 😔 lite is just not enough
I wonder if you can install regular Linux on the FC and use it as a Raspberry Pi alternative
You can, I run AArch64 on a SBC with the same exact specs after the device turned out to be... well, you watched the video.
15:28 it's Batocera Linux??
That first console, I recognize that boot screen. If you had chosen one of those Mario games you would have found GRAND DAD!!!
Buying a GS5 for someone would be a good trolling gift.
I'm really curious to see the Harry Potter GS4 game
YES YOU UNDERSTAND ME THIS IS WHAT I WANT THIS IS WHAT WE ALL WANT
Holy crap bro! I'm 5 minutes into this with tears laughing my butt off! Yet it's all legit analysis man, subscribed.
5:06 "Mario on crack" as referred to by another TH-camr (can't honestly recall) when reviewing another Famiclone 😂
Boxes similar to the Hyper Base FC are actually fairly common. My friend had one that was functionally about identical but came in a smaller form factor.
hyperbase FC is kinda nice. i mean you could just plug those things into a pc and see what happens 2 new external drives that looks like game cartridges.. pretty em up with some game stickers lol.
I want somebody out there to make a Famiclone being advertised to be a licensed product by Nintendo, bundled in with Bluetooth Controller ports of any kind, a warped yet pleasant menu consisting of 30 games (maybe 5 extra) and very little else.
I'd totally buy one of those hyper base FCs, but no way in hell will I give aliexpress any of my info.
I have the retroflag case for my pi. It looks like a mini nes but the Cartridge bay works and fits sata, and Cartridge cases for the drives. It really is a pain to set something like this up yourself but far far better. Either way its best to atleast Google the O.S. so you understand how it works.
the Hyper Base reminds me of a console i had as a wee lad in south africa called the Dragon 500. And it had all manner of games on cartridges, and majority of em were compilations of like 800 games in 1 but 700 of 800 games is same games but with different names, different character, or different levels. I distinctly remember Lunar Ball Games, there was like 20 different Lunar Balls, with all sorta different names. And all it was was Lunar Ball starting on say stage 5 instead of 1.
Watching a little more that first one you opened looks almost exactly like it but it had red buttons. Bright red buttons, and where it says family computer it said Dragon 500.
TF is TransFlash. Like Transportable Flash. For some reason Asia still calls it TF but here in the west we call it MicroSD.
The MegaDrive one would have definitely fooled me. The logo, the 90's style artwork on the box,....I don't know how they got away with it.
4:55 I feel like I'm in a Tim & Eric skit scrolling through the games
Cartridges in Germany were different for the nes, I'm sure they would fit
You should have chose the hero story... That first sonic level is THE BEST
Edit: Awwww.... That song is the best. Sucks the emulation struggled with it.
Aaah... Famiclons are pure childhood nostalgia in countries where Nintendo had no official distribution in the past.
Legends say that the best one was "Pegasus" sold in Poland in the early 1990s. Interestingly, it was sold legally, because after the fall of communism there was no copyright law yet. (later the distributor invested all his money in the food industry and became the largest producer of soda drinks).
Makes sense, Communists would ban you from owning stuff... like intellectual property.
That site needs a random button. Input a category, input a dollar amount then just click random and enjoy the box that comes.
Ngl I kinda want the Hyper Base FC
love how the box for the GS4 said "2 joysticks" while refering to controllers, and then the controllers don't even have any sticks on them.
also i would've loved a close up of that board at 11:32. i mean it is very likely emulatation but doesn't seem like a regular modern ARM SoC as even the game select is done within what seems like NES limitations.
Famiclones often have an SOC that is more capable (by some metrics) than original hardware. Look up the VTxx series of NOAC hardware for some examples. Wouldnt quite call it emulation, kind of a weird in between situation
If I know something about bootleg consoles, most of them are famiclones. So those with cartridge slot that go after Famicom design will probably work fine.
And a tight slow could be worked on. Depends on if the tongues are too tight or the plastic. The metal can be bent and the plastic can be files.
The Genesis 3 feels like one for the south american market. Possibly Brazil or Argentina. Both run PAL and type C mains plug (like the one that came with it)
The first Famiclone ones have the exact same music as my cheap "gameboy" Famiclone that i bought from AliExpress. 😂.
Also, Sonic Adventure 2 running slow could be because of that DC emulation core that is included in the system, maybe changing the core could help.
MJD! Love the collection of janky console emulators. Hope to see more in the future. Cheers, man. 🍻
FC compact... yeah, that SMB game is the PAL version running on NTSC.
The Hyper Base FC is definitely beyond your typical bootleg consoles.
It's probably still a bit iffy but there was some thought put into it.
I thought there Was Mario 7
A.K.A Grand Dad
I had a famiclone as a kid who grew up in a small town in Mexico and i have alot of beautiful core memories of it.
i remember having an nes labeled “entertainment system” and the controller ports looked like vga output ports (they werent tho) and it worked via aux cable
i was 100% down to watch you finish that game of Tetris my guy
That Hyperbase is awesome. I'm so getting one.