The rifle that's proving a favourite for snipers in Ukraine war
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- A sniper rifle has proven so effective on the battlefield in Ukraine that it has become highly sought after by soldiers on both sides of the conflict.
The Ukrainian military claims the UAR-10 can hit targets 1,200 metres away - more than the 800-metre range of the Russian Dragunov or SVD the Ukrainians were using previously.
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There's a lot of footage of the UAR-10 being used very effectively with thermal optics at medium distances or around urban environments like Bakhmut - Ukrainians have been uploading some pretty terrifying videos filmed from the optic itself
can you link some of those videos?
Uploaded where?
@zudo u got any?
You welcome
It isn't only the Ukranians, I have seen at least three from the Russians as well.
As an AR-10 owner, I can attest to their badassery
Does ur government know u have a gun????
@@Mike-xw4gm They give them out at liquor stores in Texas
@@Mike-xw4gm Shhhhhh, don’t tell anyone. I also have a few thousand rounds of 308.
@@tonygonzales948 Wellllll, not entirely true because I have lots of NFA items and with that comes a registration.
@@RCXDerp they must. That's why you keep having all these mass shootings.
1200 meters is really pushing the limits of 7.62 x 51mm. After about 800 meters the ballistics become very wonky. As in you’d have to roll custom match ammo just for this particular rifle. Much better than the SVD but any Semi auto will have difficulty at those ranges.
Pretty much my thoughts on the 7.62x51. That said, getting match ammo is probably still easier (logistically) than getting a different cartridge, such as a .338 LM or .300 WM cartridges and a set of Mk-18 rifles (which are, to the best of my knowledge, the closest to a mil-spec semi-auto in those cartridges).
Exactly my take. 1000 yds, maybe 1100 yds, with a 20" barrel .308 gas gun, 1 in 10" twist, 175 gr FGMM, but to ensure hits you need the 6.5 Creedmoor barrel in it like the LMT rifles to get a few hundred more yards of reach. The new 6.8 rounds are supposed to surpass that, but it'll be awhile before they are available in any quantity.
1200 fps at 1000 yds, with 335 in drop... pretty rough numbers.
That's 25 feet
@@pauljohnson9445 get some steel case specific dies, hotter primers, faster powder, and run 130gr 6.5cm at as high as a steel case can go.. might push it to fury levels
The AR-10 and AR-15 are inherently accurate systems as the gas piston and gas cylinder are also the bolt and bolt carrier and they are both in direct line with the bore of the barrel, so the working of the action during firing doesn't impose any bending force on the barrel. The design makes it very easy the free-float (make it so nothing can touch or bend) the barrel as any pressure on the barrel can effect accuracy.
Even an el cheapo $800 PSA AR-10 can shoot MOA (2.9 cm at 100 m) or sub-MOA with match ammo, I kid you not.
The Ar-15 doesn't have a gas piston, It is *Direct Impingment*. Which means gases are vented through a gas block to act on the bolt carrier directly.
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@@thesub-5man725The gas is vented into the carrier through the gas key, and the gas separates the bolt and carrier apart. The tail of the bolt acts as a piston. It is not a traditional Gas Impingement like the French MAS-49 or ljungman 42, that just strike the face of the carrier only.
super interesting comment, thanks for taking the time to share that
Even if it's being used to help accomplish goals by the NAZI leadership in Ukraine who caused this conflict? To believe otherwise is to not research and assess the data honestly. The MAJORITY of the country (both sides) wanted peace. It's the goal of vile cvnts that the US is supporting; who also intimidated Zelensky into accommodating. Zelensky after all RAN on a platform of PEACEFULLY RESOLVING the conflict and restoring relations with Russia... Only to renege (undermining the Minsk 2 agreement) declaring half the population TERRORISTS.
Or maybe see if any of the people in the Donbas who Ukraine claims it "liberated" are happy when W. Ukrainians controlled their territory. Why don't those videos exist? Is this actually "about the Ukrainian people," "Democracy," and "Freedom" as the US & Keiv claim? Such as the freedom to vote to separate from your nation when that nation has began a campaign of terrorizing it's civilian (bombing from aircraft & shelling with artillery) population.
If it's NOT legal to do so, why did the UN claim it was for Serbia / Kosovo..? If it is legal to do so ... why were election observers who wanted to provide reports about the legitimacy threatened and implored NOT to observe the elections-and those who ignored those threats who did...had their reports ignored...only to then claim (after refusing to accept the reports from the only observers who did watch) to "know they were not free and fair" ... when you can only "know" that in order to make that statement if you actually observed them..?
Yup, own several AR10s myself, absolutely phenomenal
Lets go Brandon!
Not jamming once in 400 rounds is expected by modern standards. The AR platform has proven itself as reliable, accurate and simple. Well done Ukraine, keep up the fight.
Except for Russian guns.
Well done Eugene Stoner!
It’s impressive if you consider combat conditions (snow, mud, dirt)
But it's not a game changer. Not nearly as useful as the Lancet Drone. A rifle is not going to alter the outcome of a modern war in any significant way. In fact, no single weapon alone will, other than maybe shovels (j/k). It is all about combined arms warfare. And the Russians are much better at that and getting better every day. The war is already over for Ukraine on the battlefield, while here on the INTERNET (La-La-Land), the Ukrainians won on day one. It's as it Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf (AKA: Bagdad Bob) himself is reporting the news to the Ukrainian supporters, who are more than willing to ignore what is going on in the background.
@@dewboy910 You realize combined arms warfare is a WW2-early cold war doctrine, right? Modern military's (including I assume Russia, though maybe not if even their defenders are claiming they use WW2 tactics) have moved on to modern doctrines due to the plethora of new threats when compared to WW2 and the cold war.
No stoppage after 400 rounds in combat, that's impressive.
@@tonygonzales948 It's also more notable for something like an AR-10s and equivalents, than it is for an AR-15 or an AK.
@@orion3253 How so? AR10 is essentially just a AR-15 but bigger. It's just as reliable as an AR-15
Don't know about that, had two M3A1 .45 Caliber "grease guns" from the Korean War era, captured back from the Viet Cong in Vietnam, cleaned them up and carried them for two years, dirty, rusty, wet, muddy....didn't matter they ALWAYS fired! One I put an Itaca silencer on and at night, other than the SLAP of the 2 pound bolt, one could NOT hear it fire! When in the field carried 10 mags, 300 rounds of ammo!
@@squidwardo7074 No it's not. Not even close. I wish it was, however.
@@squidwardo7074 Because AR-15s are known for their reliability
1:53 Inquisition symbol.
Gotta poke them dirty heretics full of holes
My man be out there in the fields purging heretics.
For cleansing Orcs
This man is doing the work of the emperor.
FAR THE EMPERAH
You didn't mention UAR-10 muffler improvements in breaking up discharge friction. One of the dead give aways for a sniper is where the sound came from. But with UAR-10 muffler, it levels out the bandwidth on to the sideways corridor of space(into a straight line), so although it's still possible to know from which direction the shot came from, it's impossible to pin point the location just by sound.
That’s interesting af
Looks like there's a muzzle brake on the rifle in this video, directs the blast sideways to reduce recoil. It absolutely is not as effective at concealing a shooter's location as a suppressor would be
@@phillycheesetake We're both right in our own ways. I have a feeling the design was meant to fit within a weight limit of what a soldier can carry on foot. And an extra heavy muffler wasn't an option. However in my defence the improved scope adds another 800m between the target and the shooter (it claims to add!!). So, from that point of view it should be harder to triangulate exact locations.
Mate, nobody cares.
Simple terms: It has a suppressor
That rifle platform has a large advantage with the ability to take fast follow up shots.
We Americans who have owned and use these rifles for years can attest that they are pretty Awesome. They have come a long way over the last 20 years, not a modular as the AR15, but as long as you stick with one type you’re good to go.
Great sporting rifle
@@RCXDerp it’s not a “sporting rifle” it’s a fighting rifle. Don’t try to obfuscate the purpose of our rifles with sissified politically correct terminology.
@@richardmangus8776 ~which is why it shouldn't exist~
@@emilyscloset2648 Sounds like you don’t think it should be available for public purchase, maybe? Even if that were the case though, this model would still exist.
@@brianrich7828 Why can't it be both. I've killed more pheasants with my Benelli M1 I bought from a police auction than any of my other shotguns and I've killed many deer and an elk with an AR10 (308 Winchester and 6.5 Creedmore uppers); am I not using them for "sporting" purposes?
Fired 400 times without it jamming 😂. As an AR10 owner with a can on it, I can attest to that limited run time
Thats 400 shots in combat conditions, not clean range bench conditions.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography conditions are somewhat irrevelant for sniper esk rifle... only need the 1 round.
@Jackson Hagaman Target rich environment mate.
Honestly, most of the issues you'll have with an AR10 jamming come from mags.
They're dirty guns, yes, but keeping them well oiled means they'll effectively clean themselves.
I have two AR10s, one in .308 Winchester and the other in .243 Winchester. Unless I'm running surplus mags on a flat range to save the springs in high quality mags, they don't malfunction.
I recommend finding mags with anti-tilt followers. The cheapest mag I've found with 100% reliability is an Amend 2 with a 4 way anti-tilt follower.
@@BuckFoeJiden I use pmag gen 3. Ar10s a are dirty AF but you don’t need huge volumes of fire on a DMR rig though
1,200 meters is just lobbing it, especially with a military round. A higher spec AR-10 chambered in 7.62/308 is my primary training rifle. Hitting a silhouette target past ~750 meters reliably requires optimal conditions and high familiarity with the setup (e.g. round, elevation, rifle support, et cetera) and environmental conditions. You aren't likely to see misses in grass at that distance. If your target happens to be in a dry mud patch, and you have excellent optics and recoil control, you might get lucky and see where your miss went. A first attempt hit beyond even 800 yards with a mil-spec round is not a high probability event. Follow-up shot adjustments will also be difficult. Lastly, the NATO round is at 60,000 PSI versus 62,000 on the 308 that I shoot. That 3.33% makes a different long distances. But if you are aiming at a vehicle or another larger target, I'm sure they do do damage beyond 1,000 meters. It's a 30 foot (not inch) drop at 1,200.
Either way, I'm glad it's working for them and it appears to be a great rifle. AR-10s are not the most reliable rifles ever built. Their rifles appear to be well spec'd too.
Your info is correct, while ukro-nazi propaganda is served up woke cia degenerates.
I think ar 10s are getting better with the increased commercial sector investment and interest. They are def more popular in the US market than they used to be
The benefit to Ukraine of claiming "1200" when in fact they've had a single operator make a kill with the weapon at more like 1173, and most of their confirmed kills are more like 700 is in the fear it might evoke in opponent forces and the panache it conveys for Ukrainian forces. When the war is over, scholars will be sorting through the actual evidence about how all this stuff worked, how many casualties were actually suffered, what Putin was actually thinking, etc., for decades. Some questions may not be properly pinned down for half a century or more.
@@dichebach I'll tell you what the overall consensus will be if we survive this as a planet. "This was the biggest propaganda war ever, and it was all with the goal of siphoning western tax payer money back into western politician's pockets."
@@dichebach I can see it both ways.
If someone was harassing my trench from 1200m with an AR-10, I wouldn't stick my head up. If he's good he'll have me in a magazine or two, and it's absolutely worth it to fire 40 rounds to hit one person. It's worth it to fire 1,000 rounds, ammo is cheap, men are expensive.
Is 308 ideal for 1000m+? No. Is it still effective? Yes.
400 shots and a hundred kills. Give this many as much ammo as he can shoot !
@@Elatenl I have way more than that on CS.
Yeah mate the "Frenchman" has killed 100 Russians at a range of between 200 to 600 meters. Want to buy some magic beans ?
Bud in bakhmut there will be hundreds of soldiers with amounts of kills you won't believe. I don't doubt he has 100 kills. I have a vid save of a ua sniper getting 5 kills in 3 mins.
25% hit rate suuuucks.
world is much better without war weapons what do you think?
They need a 338 Lapua to really seal the deal at long range
they also use the desert Tech SRS A2
There is only one issue with .338, there isn't a hell of a lot of ammo for it. Everybody and his brother makes 7.62 NATO
SOCOM snipers have switched to 300 Norma Magnum they are phasing out the 338 lapua
.50 BMC seems to be the future for extreme long range.
Nope - you’d need to add another type of ammo to the supply chain. Nothing wrong with 7.62 NATO.
Highly recommend the Luth-Ar Chub Grip! I see it has their PR stock so getting them shouldn't be an issue.
I run the mba1 on my ar too. I love that thing
How does it compare to the magpul PRS type stocks? I noticed the Luth-AR MBA stocks are typically more expensive.
I have an insecurity about my tiny peenus therefore I have guns because ‘Murica.
Can we touch muzzles, rock backwards caps and jacked up trucks? 😍
@@ghost101049 haven't shot a prs yet, but it's probably lighter
I would love to have a Ukrainian made AR for my collection! I always thought it was nice to have a Mosin made by Westinghouse and a Remington Rolling block in 8mm Lebel for France. But this would be just as cool to have one of these to go with them.
I want a Westinghouse nug too I should have bought one years ago
Maybe after the war ends. Right now, they need it more than you do.
If Russia would stop trying to invade Ukraine, I'm sure you could find one pretty easily
You can buy the exact same rifle in the US, Ukraine fits US made barrels to these rifles, and CNC machines the receivers from a digital file sent by a US company, it's literally no different.
@@heybabycometobutthead Oh yes I know. I want a Ukrainian made receiver though for my collection. Anyone can build a .308 AR. Like having an M48 mauser. Yes it's made on original ww2 tooling and identical, all parts interchanging with ww2 german mausers, but my BnZ 41' K98 is where it's at!
It's an Armalite pattern, as opposed to DPMS, apparently.
For those who noticed. Nobody expects the inquisition 😂
The Emperor protects!
Am still hoping to be alive for the day I can replace my upper with a laz rifle assembly.
I built an AR-10 for 1000yd shooting. It has a fluted 26" Krieger barrel with match trigger set to 1.5 lbs. It's topped off with a 32x Nightforce scope. SUPER accurate and fun to shoot.
You don't have to reacquire the target between rounds like a bolt gun, instead adjust the impact point to counter wind variations and continue shooting.
Easy to hit a steel plate at 1000yd 9 of 10 times.
I've been served in the Military service for more than 2 decades and it will depend to those who used a weapon with their skills and capabilities. I used M14 rifle as anti-sniping and anti-guerilla warfare and its very effective.
M14 ebr?
How did it feel killing Muslims?
Thank you for your service rambo
Yep getting the scope dialed in and knowing how to adjust it to get a hit on the first shot is one hell of a skill.
i love the stock that whole style of gun is my fav. and that scope at the 2:26 time so nice
SSG 69 SORRY 😂😂😂
LuthAR stock, you can get ‘em in the states
Aero precision would make a killing if it sales their cheap but very reliable AR10s
Unless you upgrade the Aero M5,it is not a heavy fire fight gun. At all. Upgrade it a bit it’ll probably be fine. Especially upgrade the barrel.
ngl, they'd probably be sick in Ukraine, they could mass sell them for cheap to the soldiers and be hailed as heros over there... and then they'd come back to the US and be absolutely dumpstered by everyone here because we all know they're bottom barrel quality lol, but Ukrainians don't know that. Honestly it would be cool though if a good company like Daniel Defense sold their AR-10s to Ukraine.
@@brianrich7828 This isn't a Lucas Botkin torture test, the barrel is fine.
Good old 7.62
Thanks Much !.......yup,,,,
Heroic: Thank YOU' &
Blessings returned to you & your family!!!!!!!!
I'm so proud as an AR10 owner, I have a long range setup AR10 for hunting boars, and it smokes.
Excellent reporting!
an accurized AR 10(like the M110 or SR25) hitting targets out to1200 meters isnt much different than the UAR-10 hitting them at 1200 meters. Its the same basic platform (maybe a different gas system or short stroke piston) with the same potential. Accuracy might be a little different, barrel length might help with a little extra energy..But chances are its the round they are using as opposed to the rifle. M118LR is possible, difficult but possible. 175smk..Hand loads, maybe? 1200 meters is a very difficult shot for the 308. Its running out of energy very fast past 800 meters.
Think the longest confirmed whacking with 7.62 Nato M118 was 16 or 1700 yards in Iraq.
That’s the consensus of many shooters and veterans. 800 meters is basically the limit for most semi auto rifles chambered in 7.62x51mm. The armorer would need to do some serious magic on those custom loads to push those rounds any farther.
@@ownage11445 And by serious magic we mean loading a little bit closer to the test load level.
@@ownage11445 I hate to question that Ukrainian sniper(hes doing God's work) but that many kills at 1200 meters with a AR 10 in 308?
Yes its possible but that is no easy task under the most ideal conditions at a shooting range, much less a war zone. Perhaps the Russians are painted Bright Orange and resemble an 18" steel gong?
@@alexsmart5452 I don't think he said he got 100 kills at 1200 meters did he? 100 kills is very possible with thermal optics and the Russians "tactics" and 95% of them not having good equipment and with most of the shots being 200-500 meters
seeing the UA becoming more western style military brings a smile to my face. Imagine how great partners they'll be to fight with side by side.
they can learn a lot from Poland and Finland too. T72s and BMPs running around together with Leopards, or even Ukrainians with AKs disembarking out of Bradleys. What a strange yet encouraging sight indeed.
This is such a long way from the 7.62 full bore target shooting I used to enjoy over 500 yards as a kid!
I have a PSA AR-10. Good rifle.
I remember the Dragunov SVD. It's the rifle that the Cobra trooper action figures came with.
I love this rifle n have been extensively using it more than a decade ago. I love Project IGI ❤😂
@@NasyaSwer-fm2ym what would you say is the effective accurate range of the SVD?
@@cacwgm ~1.3metres I'd say effectively
When this war is over it will be Ukrainians traveling to other nations to train their forces. By this point some of the best snipers in the world are in the AFU.
Belgian army are world champion sniping. And they train Ukrainian snipers
Not just snipers either, almost all roles.
@@jacouilledefripouille9076 real? AUSTRIAN SNIPERS N.C.
OHHH YES NEUTRAL.
JOKE AND REAL? 😂
When this War is over...🤔.
Im tourist and eat, drink
and think.......UKRAINE I COME TO YOU TO SEE AND FEEL ....
SLAVA UKRAINE ❤
STAY STRONG AND ALIVE
BIG WISHES FROM AUSTRIA 🇦🇹
No kidding. They have the only real world experience in modern warfare.
Wow, nice to see The Armourer's Bench in one of these videos!
Thank you!
7.62x54r basically equal to 30.06 very capable round, good out to 800/ 1K meters.
400 shots but only 100 kills ?? That's 1/4 shots is a kill. Not bad at all tbh
also 100 kills is a lie😂😂😂 that dude is a PR guy, probably never fired it....he is just there to market the rifle...lol
@@JG-xm8jy Russian rifles are superior.
@J G There's videos of Ukrainian snipers getting 5 kills in 30min, so wouldn't be too outlandish there's some fellas with 100 kills
Considering how incompetent russian are, I wouldn't surprised that he got that many kills
@@zeon3123 It's basically a turkey shoot with thermals lol. It'd be like walking into a forest and shooting squirrels
The Zbroyar AR variants used to be called the “Z-10” and “Z-15” prior to the the spring of 2022…. Seriously. I have screen shots/ pictures of some of them I took from a video of the factory back around 2019ish.
by the armed forces they were called UAR always.
@@bigsoap186 well, yes, that was the internal designation.
Thanks for having me on to talk about an interesting rifle.
No wonder the voice sounds familiar. This just verifies it.
Nice surprise seeing Matt from The Armourers Bench as the SME here
The voice instantly recognizable, pleasantly surprised too . :)
Thanks guys!
@@TheArmourersBench no thank you. Yank Othias' beard for me for luck.
So just ..... an AR10 .... so a .308 precision rifle in a AR pattern ? Am i missing something here? I realise Forces News has to dumb things down for a wider audience but ....
I was literally thinking the same thing...
no one believes the AR-10 is a good rifle for various reasons.
@@fuge74 name a few
The fact this guy claims to have killed a 100 Russians with it, should sett alarm bells ringing .
This comment thread is beyond stupid. A bunch of keyboard warriors who don’t know sh**. The AR-10 is more than capable and I trust what ACTUAL soldiers say about it in the field of Battle.
Didn't know the Inquisition gave permission to use its sign on the rifle 😂
You going to tell him otherwise?
UAR 10 is added to my list
Keep up the good work.
man that rifle looks brand spanking new, not a scratch on her for it "being used"
Just like most of there kit all new and clean
Almost like it has a coating or something
@@RCXDerp man if you are in a war setting the finish is going to get ruined fast even if you are a slow moving sniper
Weapon,gear, body.
Exactly.. every bit of his gear is spotless with absolutely zero wear. No marks on the brass deflector, charging handle, bolt carrier etc. that rifle's probably never even been fired.
Wears a skull mask
Claims to have 100 kills
Part of "Ghost" unit
This man is a CoD enjoyer
This is 100% a propaganda piece. Lol
@@michaelt.9372 Ok Muscovite.
@@michaelt.9372 This is the world we live in. You make any statement that approaches neutrality and the legions of brainwashed serfs deputized as attack dogs of the elite.
@@moritamikamikara3879 did you ever think that I don’t care which side wins or loses? I hope they both lose. Ukraine is a corrupt government funneling money back to US leaders. If you want to take down a legitimate genocide, then you should be looking at how the Uyghur Muslims are being treated in China.
Lands are won and lost through war. It’s been that way from the dawn of time. Survival of the fittest. But the way Uyghur Muslims are being brutally slaughtered in China is horrifying. My family was murdered in the Holocaust, it’s not right to stand by and see it happening in China.
Also that rifle and all of his gear is pristine and has obviously never been used..
I had finished my AR10 build. Using the Aero Precision M5 receiver set and parts except for Criterion 20 inch M118 chamber barrel with headspaced BCG. .308 Ammunition worked ok but standard M80 ball ammo did not cycle reliably. Aero told me that with a rifle length gas tube a rifle buffer tube would work best. Not like the AR 15 where it does not matter the buffer system.
At 1:14 - Is that Hawkeye from The Avengers ? If he likes it then it must be good.
Makes me wonder how many of the M4 variants we keep seeing on video in Ukrainian hands might be locally made as opposed to imported.
Most are imported. Most western militaries offloaded their surplus rifles at the start of the large scale invasion. They got at least 200k AR patern rifles in 5.56 alone.
In such close ranges, DMRs are a force multiplier..... of course the 1200m range claim is a bit of a stretch... :)
Every conflict as some sniper with a huge kill count, propaganda but I'm sure it works well.
Honestly.. Not that hard. Lots of civilian sports shooters are hitting that range with 7.62mm or even further
Certainly a possible shot, just hard on an actual battlefield
@@meme4one quite right.. That's the psychological part of having or pretending to have a sniper or a team of snipers operating in a location
No not really. Google it.
Perhaps there's a 6.5 Creedmoor variant like there is with the U.S military in the Ar10 where 1200m is by no means a stretch.
Keep up the good work
AR-10 as DMR are super accurate
Note to anyone thinking about invading the US - there are millions of these very same rifles in gun safes across the country. I've got 2. At least. Use mine for moose hunting.
Any responsible gun owner has about 2 of these at least. I know I do.
China, Russia N Korea and Iran will rain nukes someday on continental USA this nations " axis of EVIL " hate USA a lot their goal is to destroy USA
They just gotta manage to reach the US first xD The ocean is probably the biggest defender there.
If we ever got invaded, it would unite all Americans
youve got 2 at least?? you telling me you dont know?? wtf
Eugene stoner designed this back in the 60’s and everyone is treating it like it just came out. I still don’t get why the us is moving to a new gun and caliber instead of the AR308 platform. Clearly this still works
.308 is considered too heavy for a standard issue rifle. Difficulty handling a .308 rifle in full-auto is a main issue, along with ammunition carry capacity. For GPMG use, .308 is considered a little light. With modern ballistics technology, the 6.8mm can outperform .308 at less weight and slightly more compact form. However, it will be difficult to push a new standard ammunition without a significantly obvious advantage, and I don’t think 6.8mm is there, yet. The argument for the 6.8mm GPMG is pretty attractive, though it still needs lots of proofing.
@@petesjk I agree with you a lot of your points. However, I think the added weight of the sig spear plus the more complex piston system adds too many variables that can go wrong. Yes, it sounds nice on paper, but I think they should’ve done an ar308 rifle before the jump to 6.8. There is plenty of 7.62 in circulation, the DI system is simple and easily serviceable, plus it is a beefed up version of what soldiers are already used to. But I also see where ur coming from
@Nick Adams The spec ops doubled their hit percentage with 6.5 Creedmoor. The barrels may wear out faster, but that doesn't matter if the targets are all eliminated.
@@nickadams2951
The moment the 6.8mm becomes standard military ammo, there quickly will be plenty of that ammo available.
The argument about to much that can go wrong has been used so many times about all sorts of weapons in history, but history has shown that it doesn't matter so much if many things can go wrong if the product is very well made and the quality control is strict, because very few things go wrong then.
It has been the weapons that have not been made well that have gone wrong, no matter how simple or complex they have been made.
I am all for moving away from the 5.56 NATO as I am far from satisfied with that cartridge, so I think going to the 6.8mm is a good thing.
I have been plenty happy with the 7.62 NATO, but I think the 6.8mm is a better overall cartridge to use in many different weapon platforms and that is much of the reason for why they have decided to go for the 6.8mm.
Many soldiers also struggle a lot with the recoil of the 7.62 NATO, but I think much of that could be fixed with good suppressors.
There is only thing I am worried about when it comes to the 6.8mm and that is the question of making the soldiers good enough shots with it as it takes a lot of practice to become good with it and that will cost a lot of time and money and I am not confident that the military will prioritize it as much as they should do.
There are plenty of soldiers that are far from good enough with the 5.56 NATO and I fear it will become worse with the 6.8mm.
gotta go buy one now
pretty good hunting rifle as well
It's even a decent hunting rifle for some big game applications. It's a bit heavy though. Not surprised the Russians like it when they get a hold of one. Good Optics combined with decent ammo, a well-made barrel, and trigger adjustable stock to fit a marksman properly make for an easier-to-shoot rifle. It is sinful that to find this out both sides must kill each other. As for some of the other posts here, there is nothing wrong with the 5.56. it's light, you can carry more, little recoil so most will shoot better, and within most engagement distances it's plenty for the task. And the 5.56/223 is a fine hunting cartridge for some applications. Hogs in Texas come to mind. With the right Scope and mount set up 1200 meters is doable for a skilled marksman. It's a long way, things get a little funny once the bullet slows to sub-sonic. A lot of things have to go right. Still, it's a very long shot for a 7.62 NATO round.
You should
Hunting has nothing to do with this video. 🤦♂
Stop killing animals!!! 🤬
@@thuggeegaming659 You are very wrong.
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Hemingway
I agree with you. The 5.56 is a solid round for certain applications. I think the AR in 5.56 makes for a superior assault rifle due to its smooth, easy recoil and the fact that you can hump a ton of rounds on an assault. I love seeing the Ukrainians use them when assaulting positions.
That said, as you alluded to, it definitely has its limitations. Especially with standard issue ball ammo. You won't be dropping a boar at 1,200m with green tips. It's gonna slap with like 12lb of force.
As explained by Ian McCollum in his _Forgotten Weapons_ video about the Colt CK901 assault rifle, the AR-10 battle rifle platform can also be adapted to fire the 7.62×39mm AK round and use AK magazines.
The CMMG mk47 mutant is exactly that. An ar-10 in 7.62x39
7.62xi39 usually fired from converted a ar15 ( bigger bolt, different barrel, different mags, and add heavy springs and different firing pin for Russian ammo) not a AR10 which is for
Length cartridges.
@@Anti-Infringement-American typically you're correct. The big issue is the bolt face in an ar-15 bolt. It's too small for the cartridge head in reality, this typically ends up in a broken bolt. An ar-10 bolt could probably fire 10k rounds due to it's extra mass and locking surface area. The ar-10 based 7.62x39, are much more reliable and fire many more rounds before critical parts failure
@@PureCountryof91 If the AR-10 is best for the 7.62×39mm, is the AR-15 suitable for the 5.45×39mm?
@PureCountryof91 that's how you add useful info to a conversation...
Good to know...
KAC SR-25….badassery!
Being hunted by a sniper, especially at night must be terrifying. One second you're next to your fellow soldier and wham. His chest has been vaporized before your very eyes, especially if it was a .50 cal round. You probably will be next seconds later before you have time to process what's happened. 🥺
An ex us army guy said this to me once. Never run from a sniper. You’ll only die tired
That isn't .50 cal though.
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle Actually, running is the best way to get away from a sniper. So long as you're not running directly into or aligning with his line of fire.
He will need to lead his shot if you are running perpendicular to him, which is quite hard as the leading range and shot range have to be exact, as well as the fact that to hit you, you will have to move at the same pace in the same direction. So, your ex us army guy wasn't a sniper.
If a 50 hit your mate in the chest, there’s not going to be much left of the upper part of them.
You might find an arm or even their head but for the rest, very unlikely.
That saying, it depends on at what range the shot is taken.
@@LANDYMAN090 Actually, a .50 will go straight through, taking a but chunk out. Hit the shoulder and it might take off the arm, but it won't blow you in half.
But the AR10 doesn't fire a .50, it fires 7.62 NATO, so I don't see your point about the .50.
Russians have the LAR-10....made by Lobaev.... also in 7.62-51...
Aaaand they're still losing the war day by day
@@immarkers They might bi loosing (I don't know), but Ukraine lost in 2014. They will realize that in decade or two.
@@immarkers I don't know about losing considering they're still inside Ukraine's borders
@@tito3640 Russians are getting closer and closer to their starting positions, abandoning entire axis of attack can be considered losing. Well and the fact that they had an element of surprise and f*cked it up.
@@zelenizub2036 "but Ukraine lost in 2014. They will realize that in decade or two" care to elaborate?
AR10 is not a sniper rifle.
As a bonus UAR 10 is totally legal to buy for civilians in Ukraine.
I question their claim that it can reach out to 1,312yrds, given my bolt gun ran out of elevation on my 3x18-42 scope at 1,000yrds using M118. If it was 6.5cm, then I would believe it whole heartedly.
I knew there would be one of you in here. No, actually I thought there'd be a bunch of you. Where's all your 6.5cm buddies?
@@wolfpack4672 I've got a 308 DSR-1 equiped 5-25x56 on a 13mil inclined mount with a 26 inch barrel. I have plenty of elevation adjustment for 1200m, with handloads I do not have the level of precision required to engage consistently man-size targets@1200m. So to have a Semi-Auto rifle with a shorter barrel claim better with mil-spec ammo is pure fantasy.
I agree
@@wolfpack4672
I can tell you one thing for sure and that is that this gun in 7.62x51 NATO is no 1000+ yards sniper gun at all.
This gun is in reality not a real sniper gun either, but there are always some journalists or others that love to attach the word "sniper" to any gun with a scope on.
This is as one said in this video, more of a marksman's gun that a marksman in a normal rifleman's squad would use.
And for that use out to about 800 yards, it is a very good weapon, and you can always try longer shots with it, but I very much doubt they have good scopes for that on these guns.
In general are no guns in 7.62x51 very good for sniping at 1000+ yards.
And that goes for any 6.5 caliber gun too.
Can it work? Yes
Is it ideal? No
Specially when you consider that many have body armor and extremely few non specialist snipers are able to shoot headshots at long distances.
For a 800+ sniper rifle, you want to use minimum a 300 Win Mag and if you start to stretch it out to 1200 yards and more, then a 338 Lapua Magnum or 338 Norma Magnum is by far the best choice.
When it comes to Geezah1's comment about a 6.5, then he is clearly correct about one thing, and that is the fact that a rather fast 6.5 cartridge is better than a 7.62x51 NATO if you want to snipe at 1000+ yards.
But with any of those two, you better hope the enemy is not using a decent body armor if you hit them in their torso.
And just a small correction for you, is it 6.5mm and not 6.5cm.
@@The_Judge300 6.5CM is short for 6.5CreedMoor, not Centimeters. The round maintains it's terminal velocity well beyond the point that the 7.62x51 has dropped off, and could hit steel at a mile. I have DOPE on my 6.5CM out to 1,200yrds.
The Russians operate extremely lethal Lobaev sniper rifles whos range and accuracy is amongst the best, and Spetsnaz units have been seen in Ukraine with British Accuracy International sniper rifles also, however more Ukrainians were probably killed by the 7.62X54 SVD Dragunov than any other sniper rifle on either side.
i remember 1 video ukraine soldier provoke RU sniper, and they shoot them in stomach only using SVD. they said in range 1.100 meters. you can see stomach explode when the bullet hit
@TalkBigDoSmall Then the Ukrainian fired one shot from his handgun and killed the Russians whole bloodline.
@@RCXDerp yeah ukraine is godlike, never died in war.. ONLY Russia died... 😂😂🤡🤡
Video like this just make me want to go home and hold my gun and tell it that its my special little rifle
A semi automatic rifle is never a sniper rifle especially not a AR 10
I love seeing the AR platform in Ukrainian hands 🇺🇲🇺🇦 Let freedom ring!!
Ive got one and an AR-15 .450 bushmaster. I named them The Hammer and Sickle, ironically but not really. The AR-10 will cut trees in half and the .450 bushmaster just pounds giant holes into stuff.
The Frenchman is basically the ghost of kiev of infantry 😂
Am I the only one who noticed that he's got something with the Inquisitorial "I" insignia from Warhammer 40k taped over the mag well?
I have always preferred 7.62x51 over 5.56x45
Kind like saying you prefer a 5.8L V8 vs a 2.5L non-turbo 4 cylinder dude.
I certainly understand what you are saying. I have shot plenty of kangaroo's even foxes and unless you get it right, with a .223 they'll get up.
Even with a slightly off .308 they tend to stay down till you get there. They tend to not run very far.
.243 is a nice compromise i have found.
@@dfgiuy22 but the 5.56 has more velocity than 7.62/51
@@someguy2594 at the muzzle, it also (generally) weighs a lot less. A 55g isn't going to fly as far as fast for as long a distance due to its poor BC.
Theres a reason the effective range on 5.56mm is shorter than that of 7.62mm.
@@dfgiuy22 In my opinion having more rounds is more important than having a more powerful round (except for snipers). 99% of the time you shoot somebody in the chest (excluding body armor) they ain't walking it off, and at the very least they are out of the fight. In hunting you generally only fire one shot and its at relatively close range compared to your average combat distance. But I agree an intermediate intermediate is the sweet spot. I guess that's why we're switching to the 6.8. What would be perfect is a light bullet but at 1500 m/s or so, but the tech isn't there yet, though people have gotten 556 to 1200 m/s with special handloads
It al depends on what you want to do with it ! And as long people do different things, they need a different caliber ! Simple as that !
Boy's anti tank rifle makes for a good sniper rifle, the HE rounds can do so much damage it would deter most attacks. 😊
Featuring The Armorers Bench was a great choice!
They need some noveske N6 rifles! My favorite ar10, know of a handful whom ran it overseas during the gwot
The SVD Dragunov has well and truly proven itself since its release in 1963 with a proven fire accuracy at ranges of well over 800m.
It still remains one of the most prized infantry trophies since its release
By no means would you want to face an enemy armed with SVD Dragunov sniper rifles in combat.
In most cases with the sniper tactics and the rifle’s ability, a sniper soldier armed with an SVD Dragunov could maintain enough distance to lay down lethal fire while being out of range of soldiers armed with standard assault rifles
Yeah, but I got an ER Shaw custom .30-06 that's suppressed, bet that'd do well there, too 😁
With the availability of 30-06 in Ukraine….not likely
Yeah well I am building to sell AR 10s in WSM magnum cartridges with one right by me in 375 WSM using Pac Nor super match barrels.
ER Shaw makes cheep quality barrels for the buyer has little money to spend.
@@offdeadeye88 Oh, sure, there's that, but I'm sure it'd make a few orcs get a headache if we could. Brief headache :)
@@Lure-Benson Did I say AR?
@@offdeadeye88 Just bring some pissin hot hand loads
Damn I wanna get my hands on one 😮💨
The UAR-10 is a copy of the American AR-10. The usual Marksman rifle (DMR) for shooting up to 800 meters, but not 1200. The 7.62x51 NATO cartridge (308 Winchester) used is weaker than the Russian 7.62x54.
They are actually about the same energy and the 7.62 NATO is much better suited for a semi-auto rifle as shown in the video. Also, the NATO round can be loaded to a slightly higher pressure. They are virtually the same, though really, except one is rimmed making it a little bit more fiddly for box magazines.
Can you get 54R with Sierra Match King? I don't think so.
the 308 has a much better BC in its heavier rounds which will mean it has better accuracy potential and retains more energy at longer ranges. but they are very close. The 54 has more muzzle energy, but its BC lets it down at ranges beyond 500 meters. It is a good round to 800 meters but beyond that not so much. the 308/7.62x51 with its better BC gives it the edge at longer ranges. Doubtful a person getting hit by either, out to 1000 meters would feel a difference.
@@RCXDerp Why not? They can load whatever they want.
@@alexsmart5452 You can't say "308 has a much better BC", it depends on the actual bullet. You have no idea what Ukrainian or Russian military might be loading.
It's a good rifle to have in battle for short and mid range shots but I would not use it for precision shooting at mid to longer ranges where absolute accuracy is required.
The random firing pressure anomalies of a semi-automatic rifle can ruin precise shots at mid to longer ranges.
100%
Typical journalists, people without a clue and the ones that want to make click baits to use the word "sniper", when this in reality is no specialist sniper rifle at all.
Do snipers use this or similar guns at times? Yes.
But this is not the gun snipers choose when they are doing their specialist job to snipe enemies at long distances.
Talking about this gun as it is a good sniper rifle for 1000+ yards shows lack of knowledge.
One thing is it when a random news outlet with little to no knowledge about weapons and war talk about sniping and snipers related to this gun, but when a channel calling themselves Forces News do it, then it becomes a bit comical.
The moment a soldier use a gun with a scope on, he/she is suddenly a sniper...
Look at how thick that barrel is. That's gotta be a .936" gas block
As the owner of a dragunov "tiger" variant i bought new in 94 i can tell you it is NOT a precision rifle.
This makes me proud af 😂
it is the round and the shooter mostly. 556 too weak, 762 better even infantry with AKs can penetrate some weak walls ... but I think the heavier american sniper rifles with larger boore are still better as sniper rifles. Cause they don't loose so much energy when they travel through air. There are snipers in cities and snipers in the open country. I think the smaller boore rifles ones better for urban comabt.
knights Armament AR 10 with nightforce scope, m80 ball can be upgraded to hornandy 180gr.
Looks great! 👌
This is awesome! Glory to Ukraine!
7.62mm NATO I like it. Way better than the FAL. However my personal weapon was the LMG (7.62mm Bren) I would rather have the Bren.
Why are you comparing a machine gun to a sniper rifle/marksman rifle?
@@GapeGang I can hit anything he can. The LMG was super accurate on single shot. This one looks good but I have never fired it.
@@grahamthebaronhesketh. You really can't mate. The BREN was very accurate for an LMG but it's not a 21st century marksmans rifle with all the refinements and precision engineering that go into it.
@@GapeGang Ikr. Apples and Oranges.
if he were still alive my father would agree the bren (303) was an excellent weapon both in accuracy and longevity. He used it in north africa and Italy (1943-45) and could hit with repeatable accuracy at 400 yards plus and upto 1000 yards with less accuracy. single shot of course. He said it was a dependable weapon one of the few British army bits of kit he respected.
One of those guns is also known as the SASS. Semi Auto Sniper System.
This gun is usually used when the fighting is not in wide open places.
Always the operator never the tool. A McLaren doesn’t make you a formula 1 driver.😊
In the US, it's a scary assault rifle. In Ukraine, it's a life saving sniper rifle. Gotta love politics
…it wouldn’t be a problem in either country if we didn’t have greedy, corrupt, abusive men of no integrity running rampant. Once these evil men suffer some consequences of their poor decisions, they will change their behavior.
I mean if americans didnt use guns to sho .ot their own school you would have a point lol
Spoiler alert: the USA hasn’t been invaded.
@@audigex idk if you're American or not but here we have a document called the constitution that lists a base of rights our citizens have. The 2nd amendment of the constitution states that American citizens have the right to own firearms and train for war in case of A) our government becoming tyrannical like the British were back in the day B) to prepare in case of an invasion by another country and C) to defend themselves from criminals. Having a gun in your house and on your person here is like putting on a safety belt when driving. You might not need it, but in case something happens, it's there for you. You're also wrong about America not being invaded. Yes, we are not at war, but millions of illegal immigrants from south and middle American countries are pouring into our border. This heavily increases the crime rate as well as the homicide rate in many states and allows cartels to smuggle in mass amounts of fentanyl to distribute across the country. Citizens here are at war with illegals and cartels and many of my friends have died from the poison that is shipped across the Rio Grande. So yea, there's that.
Your dude doesn't know the ranges of this configuration.
Cool…but I’d still love to have a Dragunov!!
Good, well done that man stating it was more a designated marksman rifle. 😎👍
1200m 7.62 😂😂😂 what you smoking 800 meters is effective range 1200 your lobbing bullets
More propaganda
Man, right when I had a random thought of "man, I don't hear enough talk about the AR-10 recently, it's such a good rifle"
TH-cam shows me this, happy
I use a 223 Rem (5.56mm) with a long range barrel, Nosler ballistic tip, bolt action, for eliminating Varmints. Do have some 68 grain Black Hills Gold Ammo just incase the varmint is at an increased distance.
Rifle is heavy and not made for a ruck march though.
Thank the USA...
or rather perhaps the UK? note 'UK Prop' on the side. USA designed? UK made and supplied? Maybe someone else can enlighten us.
@@Elatenl AR-10 variant
@@Elatenl Eugene Stoner is american
Thank Eugene Stoner for the design.
Then, if it's a clone of the British L129 (and it probably is, considering the source and context clues) you do have to thank the Americans and specifically Lewis Machine and Tool for the license, CAD specs and tooling. Alternatively, if the tooling for the internals produce an American M110 derivative then, ironically, you have to thank the Germans at H&K for the same.
Either way, somebody west of Dnipro makes bank. Hence the glowing review.
No thank the tax payer of the united goyim states, we are sick of giving our money away.