The wet lube is certainly a bit more messy than squirt (wax based lube) but could be better for the chain in the Winter, however the jury is out. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts in the comments.
I have that Park Tools chain cleaning tool and you’re right WM, it is very therapeutic and satisfying to run the chain through it - I try to do it once a month and you can feel the difference once you’ve cleaned and lubed the chain, runs like silk. Jelly Babies! 😁 Thank you for putting my favourite birdsong on the end of this film. To my ear, there is no bird song quite as lovely as the blackbird’s 🤗❤️
Wet lubes are a grinding compound (oil & dirt). i switched to hot wax years ago and it makes a huge difference reducing wear on the drive train. It's very much worth the bother.
In my teens (55+ years ago) I did a huge amount of cycling - remove chain and soak in Gunk. Scrub with old nail brush. Wash in the kitchen sink! Stick it back on & oil with 3in1 - Happy Days. No gears to worry about, it was a fixed wheel. Nice one Sandy mate 👍 I'll be passing your gaff on Saturday morning so I'll give you a hoot 😃
Having tried a similar device I went back to putting the chain in a plastic bottle with white spirit. A good shake then leave to dry. The white spirit can be reused.
Thanks again for your work producing something interesting to view, I am sure every biker has their method of servicing chain gear,your new method is quite slick n easy, I always put a large sheet of cardboard down which catches all the dripped dirt n oil and is easily disposed of in many ways without stains on concrete etc. A couple episodes back you mentioned doing feature about Becket Hall as a kid I spent many many hours fishing, biking through the grounds and woodland, my mum used to work with your auntie Marjorie at the hall as it was the officers mess. Staying fit as you do Sandy will help you avoid many health issues, unlike myself since having the unsayable jab which within few days caused several heart and other issues and all so that I would be allowed visit friends family and church. The world went mad that’s for sure oh I’m sorry for rant but your channel keeps many smiling that’s for sure so keep on keeping on😅😅😅......Robert .......NZ
I used Squirt wax lubes on all my pushbikes, all year round. Well worth trying out, your chain has to be super clean before application though. Only needs lubing once a month if that.
Good chain cleaning demo, proper real world experience. As it happens i have exactly the same chain cleaning device and its very effective, the best chain cleaner ive ever had. Degreaser can be bought from motor fsctors or screwfix at £10 for 5 litres. Its water soluble, and supposedly environmentslly friendly. Riding offroad in winter my chain needs a clean every ride otherwise jt corrodes and its shimano XT quality. Ive got the art of chain cleaning down to 5 minutes so its no big deal and as Sandy says its quite theraputic. Nice video mate.
Messy job that sandy but worth it, look after your kit and your kit will look after you. Fred and Pete were very happy yesterday, everything went well which was good. Love to all the family hope Mandy is feeling better 😊♥️👍😉
The new chain cleaning and maintenance to that you were using new gadget for does appear to be a very therapeutic process Sandy. When you do really enjoy an item that you use for an important hobby (such as bike riding), maintaining the bike should be an enjoyable extension of your time with that hobby. You ask a lot from your equipment and always expect a lot from it and it can also be very expensive to replace. It is very beneficial to take care of that equipment a nd well worth the effort I think. Thanks for letting see your maintenance routine, we can all learn something from others. And thank you for taking us along for a little bonus ride afterwards, always enjoyable. Take care and I will see you on the next one.
That has to done quite often to keep the gear changeing smooth but i find that on my mountain bike the chain still only last's 2000 to 2500 klms and 3000 to 3500 klms on my touring bike after that they are streched out enough to eat away the gear sets, and if you let that happen it all gets very expensive, great video as always, thankyou.
A good educational video there Sandy. It’s important to keep the drive chain clean as it not only saves it wearing out as quickly, but also saves you a few watts of power as it runs more efficiently. It’s a bit of a pain when you have a large number of bikes as you are constantly cleaning them. I always feel better once they are done. I think you are right,it’s like therapy for the cyclist. 😊
Thank you for demonstrating one of these tools because I’ve seen them in Amazon and I really wondered if they were worth buying because I ride bicycle and cleaning your chain to be a real pain in the body. I used to just take it off and give it a gasoline wash and scrub and then give it a bathwhich is a pain in the ass
I used to use the big brand lubes for years, the products always broke down to the typical black mess that caked your hands or gloves when fixing punctures. Then I gave Revolubes a go for a year or two before going totally in on Smoove lube which is so clean it rubs off your hands. My age-old Park CM-5 scrubber rarely gets used now.
Hello Sandy , i've got a similar chain cleaner , very effective but very messy too . I probably don't use it that much , say every 3 months coz it's messy and i'm lazy :-)
I’ve had one of these for a while now , I think it’s the best thing ever for cleaning the chain . I use the bright cleaning solution too, it’s a little bit expensive but is definitely worth it. Also after cleaning I use an airline and compressor to blow dry the chain and cassette , derailleurs too . Then relube. Brilliant. 👍
Great tutorial Sandy, thank you👌👍When I had the bike shop we stocked the 'Finish Line' lube 🏆As you say, it stays on the chain during bad weather and the clag.
@WiltshireMan Absolutely👍 Only downside of the wet lube is that it holds on to the grit/sand/dust which if not cleaned regularly will wear the chain, teeth and jockey wheels👍👍
I've been mountain biking for around 30 years. I use GT 85 after a ride to clean the chain, then apply wax lube in the winter and a more oil based lube in the summer.
Always have the chain on the smallest cog ; the chain is at its lowest tension so the degreaser can get in the rollers and clean. Get muc off drivetrain cleaner. Spray on. Rinse off. Very little effort needed for the jockey wheels
Squirt indeed washes off easily. Try Smoove if you can get hold of it. I know bikeinn still sell it. They did lands end to John o goats on it. It’s by far the best lube I’ve tried. Muc off ludacris is 2nd best but ~£35 for 50 ml. Juice Lubes make the best chain cleaner.
😂 poor old jelly baby 😂 I used wurth dry lube on my motorbike chain now I have shaft drive , I have a bike coming as you motivated me / you may not approve but it gets me back out ,, I got a duotts c29 e-bike coming , it will hopefully motivate me to get some fitness back into my life , cheers Sandy
Not much point cleaning the chain and leaving the cassette dirty. I stopped using wet lube a couple of years ago, and switched to drip wax like squirt or similar. Much better, even in the wet. The wax-based stuff doesn't attract the crap like the oily ones. In wet and muddy conditions, it matters not a jot what's on the chain. 25 years of mountain bike racing taught me that.
My cleaning regime (and I use the term loosely) consists of cleaning the chain with WD40, which is actually a solvent, not a lubricant, then spraying with motorcycle chain wax and wiping off the excess. Seems to work OK.
thanks for that I bought the same one you're using It looks very simple.Would you please tell what bike stand you have as want to get one much appreciate for your wisdom
Ha ha thanks (NOT) for reminding me I need to do this for all the family bikes - I'll ensure no one at home sees me watching this otherwise it'll be another job to add to the to do list 😂 Cheers.
The wet lube is certainly a bit more messy than squirt (wax based lube) but could be better for the chain in the Winter, however the jury is out. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts in the comments.
What about the other sprockets Sandy? Should you not be changing gears as you go?
I have that Park Tools chain cleaning tool and you’re right WM, it is very therapeutic and satisfying to run the chain through it - I try to do it once a month and you can feel the difference once you’ve cleaned and lubed the chain, runs like silk.
Jelly Babies! 😁
Thank you for putting my favourite birdsong on the end of this film. To my ear, there is no bird song quite as lovely as the blackbird’s 🤗❤️
Lovely video. Zen and the Art of Bicycle Maintenance 😄
A little TLC maintenance goes a long way ! Nice one Sandy enjoyed the video. My best wishes to you from the Philippines ♥️💪👍😉😀😁🏁🛺🏍️🐑🇵🇭🏴⭐
Wet lubes are a grinding compound (oil & dirt). i switched to hot wax years ago and it makes a huge difference reducing wear on the drive train. It's very much worth the bother.
In my teens (55+ years ago) I did a huge amount of cycling - remove chain and soak in Gunk. Scrub with old nail brush. Wash in the kitchen sink! Stick it back on & oil with 3in1 - Happy Days. No gears to worry about, it was a fixed wheel.
Nice one Sandy mate 👍 I'll be passing your gaff on Saturday morning so I'll give you a hoot 😃
Having tried a similar device I went back to putting the chain in a plastic bottle with white spirit. A good shake then leave to dry. The white spirit can be reused.
I have one of these Sandy, incredible tool, Park Tool are the bees knees for cycle maintenance equipment. Great video. 👍
Great video, Sandy! What a wonderful tool. Looks like it works really well. Thank you for taking me along. Cheers!
Good job there Sandy. Nice to see it done properly 😊
Again I agree a quiet bike purring along is very satisfying, just the sound of your tires!
The interesting thing with Sandys channel you learn some thing every time great channel
Thanks again for your work producing something interesting to view, I am sure every biker has their method of servicing chain gear,your new method is quite slick n easy, I always put a large sheet of cardboard down which catches all the dripped dirt n oil and is easily disposed of in many ways without stains on concrete etc. A couple episodes back you mentioned doing feature about Becket Hall as a kid I spent many many hours fishing, biking through the grounds and woodland, my mum used to work with your auntie Marjorie at the hall as it was the officers mess. Staying fit as you do Sandy will help you avoid many health issues, unlike myself since having the unsayable jab which within few days caused several heart and other issues and all so that I would be allowed visit friends family and church. The world went mad that’s for sure oh I’m sorry for rant but your channel keeps many smiling that’s for sure so keep on keeping on😅😅😅......Robert .......NZ
A lot of harms have been done in recent years Robert. I no longer trust authority.
I used Squirt wax lubes on all my pushbikes, all year round. Well worth trying out, your chain has to be super clean before application though. Only needs lubing once a month if that.
Good chain cleaning demo, proper real world experience. As it happens i have exactly the same chain cleaning device and its very effective, the best chain cleaner ive ever had. Degreaser can be bought from motor fsctors or screwfix at £10 for 5 litres. Its water soluble, and supposedly environmentslly friendly. Riding offroad in winter my chain needs a clean every ride otherwise jt corrodes and its shimano XT quality. Ive got the art of chain cleaning down to 5 minutes so its no big deal and as Sandy says its quite theraputic. Nice video mate.
Hi Sandy, good to see you cleaning your bike, I'm sure it's not the first time he he!
Messy job that sandy but worth it, look after your kit and your kit will look after you. Fred and Pete were very happy yesterday, everything went well which was good. Love to all the family hope Mandy is feeling better 😊♥️👍😉
Congratulations on the happy day Marcus:)
@ thanks Sandy
The new chain cleaning and maintenance to that you were using new gadget for does appear to be a very therapeutic process Sandy. When you do really enjoy an item that you use for an important hobby (such as bike riding), maintaining the bike should be an enjoyable extension of your time with that hobby. You ask a lot from your equipment and always expect a lot from it and it can also be very expensive to replace. It is very beneficial to take care of that equipment a nd well worth the effort I think. Thanks for letting see your maintenance routine, we can all learn something from others. And thank you for taking us along for a little bonus ride afterwards, always enjoyable. Take care and I will see you on the next one.
Thanks Terry, I do enjoy a bit of tinkering, the chain cleaner seemed to work well too.
@@HenryWilkinson-c5n 🤣🤣Sandy is in great shape, he can run pretty fast I think.
That has to done quite often to keep the gear changeing smooth but i find that on my mountain bike the chain still only last's 2000 to 2500 klms and 3000 to 3500 klms on my touring bike after that they are streched out enough to eat away the gear sets, and if you let that happen it all gets very expensive, great video as always, thankyou.
A good educational video there Sandy. It’s important to keep the drive chain clean as it not only saves it wearing out as quickly, but also saves you a few watts of power as it runs more efficiently. It’s a bit of a pain when you have a large number of bikes as you are constantly cleaning them. I always feel better once they are done. I think you are right,it’s like therapy for the cyclist. 😊
Paraffin in spray bottle best cleaner ever. Old cardboard box underneath
Give the bike a wash Sandy! It's similar to what i do on my V-Strom (occasionally)
I have Brompton with the running gear close to ground it needs doing often.. i use same and take chain off too for a deep clean..
Thank you for demonstrating one of these tools because I’ve seen them in Amazon and I really wondered if they were worth buying because I ride bicycle and cleaning your chain to be a real pain in the body. I used to just take it off and give it a gasoline wash and scrub and then give it a bathwhich is a pain in the ass
great vlog sandy i use muc off wet lube
I used to use the big brand lubes for years, the products always broke down to the typical black mess that caked your hands or gloves when fixing punctures. Then I gave Revolubes a go for a year or two before going totally in on Smoove lube which is so clean it rubs off your hands. My age-old Park CM-5 scrubber rarely gets used now.
Hello Sandy , i've got a similar chain cleaner , very effective but very messy too . I probably don't use it that much , say every 3 months coz it's messy and i'm lazy :-)
I’ve had one of these for a while now , I think it’s the best thing ever for cleaning the chain . I use the bright cleaning solution too, it’s a little bit expensive but is definitely worth it. Also after cleaning I use an airline and compressor to blow dry the chain and cassette , derailleurs too . Then relube. Brilliant. 👍
I agree with your comments re a well-maintained bike will run better
Great tutorial Sandy, thank you👌👍When I had the bike shop we stocked the 'Finish Line' lube 🏆As you say, it stays on the chain during bad weather and the clag.
Sounds like using wet lube in winter could be the right thing to do then?
@WiltshireMan Absolutely👍 Only downside of the wet lube is that it holds on to the grit/sand/dust which if not cleaned regularly will wear the chain, teeth and jockey wheels👍👍
I've been mountain biking for around 30 years. I use GT 85 after a ride to clean the chain, then apply wax lube in the winter and a more oil based lube in the summer.
Great vid.....gonna get Park Tool cleaner etc, is head & shoulders ok for the rinse.....
'Ull' east yorkshire.
Always have the chain on the smallest cog ; the chain is at its lowest tension so the degreaser can get in the rollers and clean. Get muc off drivetrain cleaner. Spray on. Rinse off. Very little effort needed for the jockey wheels
great visd as always thanks lee
I've been using WD-40 to clean and then WD-40 chain lube. It seems to work okay, but I'm sure there is better. Thanks, Sandy, 🙂
WD40 is a great cleaner and water displacer, I've never tried the wd40 chain lube though, generally just use gear oil
Squirt indeed washes off easily. Try Smoove if you can get hold of it. I know bikeinn still sell it. They did lands end to John o goats on it. It’s by far the best lube I’ve tried.
Muc off ludacris is 2nd best but ~£35 for 50 ml.
Juice Lubes make the best chain cleaner.
😂 poor old jelly baby 😂 I used wurth dry lube on my motorbike chain now I have shaft drive , I have a bike coming as you motivated me / you may not approve but it gets me back out ,, I got a duotts c29 e-bike coming , it will hopefully motivate me to get some fitness back into my life , cheers Sandy
Not much point cleaning the chain and leaving the cassette dirty. I stopped using wet lube a couple of years ago, and switched to drip wax like squirt or similar. Much better, even in the wet. The wax-based stuff doesn't attract the crap like the oily ones. In wet and muddy conditions, it matters not a jot what's on the chain. 25 years of mountain bike racing taught me that.
You could be right Chris, it's a learning curve for me.
Tut, tut, Sandy...your near Northrtern neighbour In Gloucestershire might suggest a more apt use for your degreaser!
I might have to get some more squirt :) One thing for sure it will be easy to clean and degrease
My cleaning regime (and I use the term loosely) consists of cleaning the chain with WD40, which is actually a solvent, not a lubricant, then spraying with motorcycle chain wax and wiping off the excess. Seems to work OK.
Coincidentally, Graham Foot also uploaded a video about bike maintenance today. Very interesting to see his take on it Sandy ! ATB Marc
I saw Grahams video :)
"Closed Captions," Thank you!
Good day Sandy from NZ in spring time, a couple of you 0:05 sag
thanks for that I bought the same one you're using It looks very simple.Would you please tell what bike stand you have as want to get one much appreciate for your wisdom
It was a cheap stand I brought from Amazon but I can't remember the make now!
Forget the tool ,elbow grease degreaser 1 pound in shops and rag just as good.
I'm guilty as charged on this one Sandy 😂 .I've needs doing
Get it done Steve, look after the chain and hopefully it will last a bit longer without troubles
Do you try engine cliner. :)
No but that would work well
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Ha ha thanks (NOT) for reminding me I need to do this for all the family bikes - I'll ensure no one at home sees me watching this otherwise it'll be another job to add to the to do list 😂 Cheers.
Was that Cheese Wharf
Yes, that was indeed Cheese wharf:)
I use WD40 and an old pair of skids! 😆
Or a silicone based lube.
I second that, kidda 74.
That's a fancy bit of kit, but nothing cleans a chain like a pressure washer with hot soapy water.
Too much mess. Easier to just remove the chain and clean in a jam jar