I have this. It lasted me 7 years so far with 34,000 miles. As long as you read your manual and replace the parts when you are supposed to you won't break down.
At 1800 miles it shouldn't need parts replaced, unless Hondas wear out that fast. The make some decent motorcycles, but I have ahead 4 Honda Scooters, none were impressive, 2004 Honda Reflex fuel injected NSS, water leaks, oil leaks, a 2007 Reflex was ok, but didn't keep it long. A 2014 Forza, the Forza to me was a disastrous attempt at updating the Reflex, and I had a Silverwing 600. At 22000 miles the engine on the Silverwing developed a bad main bearing knock. Experience is the best teacher. My experience tells me there are much better scooters than anything Honda makes.
I’ve been on board some of your other scooter reviews and really like your well organized thoughts & comments for each ride. I’m a little late getting here, (4 years), but your information is still appreciated. Best to you. Rola (Oregon)👍🏻
I just bought my 2nd one of these after my first was stolen. I prefer thjs model over the newer one. Gets the same mpg and is a lot more comfortable. Love this scoot
I rode one in Thailand while I was living there. Probably the most practical vehicle ever. Has good acceleration off the line, and despite it’s size, it does fairly well filtering in Bangkok traffic. Also, it is a good bike to have with passengers. Speaking of which, I was able to carry 3 passengers at once on it once (myself, my wife, my friend, and his girlfriend).
@@jaxd7206 I scooted up a bit. My wife sat right behind me. My friend’s gf sat towards the front of the passengers seat (on the hump), and he sat all of the way at the back. We were only going like 3 miles, at 30 mph. It was a bit uncomfortable, but not too stressful when we got going.
Ive had this for almost two years now, riding in NYC parking on the street year round. Riding it hard, full throttle always, highways, road like the surface of the moon, lowlifes trying to steal it unsuccessfully. Got with 2k Put 4k miles but im surprised it still alive. Front bearings are shot, probably needs valves adjusted. Will give updates
Thanks for the review. Probably going to pick one of these up as a city/light highway commuter, since we’re likely not gonna get the ADV350 in the States anytime soom
This Forza is much better build quality than the new ones, the new ones are much lighter because it’s used for 300 350 and has to be light for the 125 engine, This model was made to use a 300cc engine, they are solid like a huge pcx
Also I own the Honda forza 2015 ABS brakes and it's wonderful on the interstate I've had no issues at all would I take this versus of vespha all day long
My favorite highway cruiser was a Piaggio BV250. Smooth, strong and the seat reached peak discomfort early and never got worse. I could ride all day and feel fine at the end. The Burgman 400 was more powerful, but the misery just kept building. By the end of the day I was thinking, "It's only another 50 miles. I can push the bike that far."
@@jasontomica8938 It rode well and had a huge under seat bay, but I did my own maintenance, and everything I did involved massive surgery to get to the parts. To replace the dash lights, I had to pull the panel off below the engine, then disassemble the leg shields. Continuing forward, the front fairing and windshield come off, then I can disassemble the dash panel and remove the instrument cluster. On the Helix, when a dash light burnt out I pulled off the instrument panel. Period. Adjusting the valves on the Burgman involved stripping the upper engine cover off, disassembling the intake manifold and removing the valve cover. On the Helix I had to pull the seat off (one screw) and turn the engine to top dead center, then turn the cam adjustment on the outside of the engine. Plus, the Burgman had a smaller cockpit than the Helix, so my legs were a bit cramped on long trips. It was a decent scooter, but there were a host of little annoyances.
@@walthinckley8978 Well that's your problem you need to change the rollers and then put a better spring on it when u chang the cluch . need 42mm socket tho ezy to do ur self
I'm sorry I disagree for what Honda charges for what's really a little more than a 250cc bike why should I have to change clutch rollers and all that stuff to make it run like it should from the factory if you ever written a chemical downtown 300i it run circles around this damn Honda
I bought this model 3 years ago. My fork was rubbish from the beginning. I have changed the oil several times. 2 months ago i bought a YSS KIT. IT was fine for 4 weeks only. I just want to put a grenade under the seat
I could not agree more. Mine has the notorious "death wobble" lousy gas milage and tops out at 76mph. Over rated tv and over priced. No where near what the hype is
I am 6 feet tall. It is fine for someone 6ft. What are you looking for? Something for around the city, a commuter, something that is capable ib both city and on the country roads? What is your budget and where are you located?
Nemanja thanks for the response. I’m looking for like a commuter, for daily commute to school and work. I live in NJ. I’m 17 at the moment and am saving up. Budget possibly $3000, what are some good entry level scooters for my height? Also what are the benefits of riding a scooter? I want to learn to ride a scooter until I make a decent amount of money then purchase a car.
@@dennist7235 learning takes only 10-15 minutes. once you get a hang of the throttle, you are good to go. few things to consider, 50cc scooters dont require a license. you can choose from many if you have 3k to spend, but i would not recommend a 50cc as they are slow. your best bet is a 150cc or something between 150 and 300cc. 50cc usually get about 100 mpg but only go up to 35-40 miles per hour. 150cc can get up to 100 mpg as well (80 avg) but go as fast as 65-70 300cc get about 65-75mpg but can go well above the speed limit, 85-90 mph. also, the bigger the engne the bigger the bike, in most cases. if you want to buy new, your best bet is a Kymco Like 150 (starting price is right at 3k) when you buy new you get a warranty and unlimited milage coverage. Kymco is a Taiwanese scooter maker and one of the best in the world, they make scooters for BMW and Kawasaki and made engines for Honda. Like 150i is fule injected and goes about 60-65 mph while getting about 80mpg. good storage, easy to ride and looks very nice. Another great choice is a Honda Pcx 150, they start at $3600 are a bit bigger and very popular around the world. they can go up tp. 70 mph and get 100 mpg. Yamaha sells the smax which is a little under 4k but is most powerful. Other good choices are, Piaggio Beverly 150, Genuine Hooligan, Genuine Buddy, Kymco Agility 125... Other ok choices are any 150 from Lance. Vespa is also a good option but they are very pricey. If you want someting bigger, Honda Forza like one in this video is a good choice, they are around 2500-3500 in good shape with low miles, Kymco Downtown 300i is a great choice, Yamaha XMax 300 is also amazing but a bit pricy... Overall, scooters are easy to ride and park, pretty easy to maintain on your own and unlike a traditional bike, offer storage under the seat. They make great commuters. It all depends what matters to you the most, I think if you are not looking to take your scooter on super long journeys, and dont need to go over 60mph, the Kymco Like 150 and Honda PCX are your best options. If you do want to go faster, Kymco Downtown 300i, SUzuki Burgman 200, Yamaha XMax and Honda Forza are all good choices.
Nemanja Hi, thanks for the response! Yes I agree I’m think of a 150cc or above. You think all those seats will be comfortable? I saw a kymco downtown for about $2500 on CycleTrader but am afraid of me being too tall. There’s so much option I’m interested right now but yeah Kymco or Honda pcx is a good choice for a beginner like me. Also, is it easy to carry it up if you do drop it? I’m scared those big scooters are really heavy like the forza which is 3 times my weight.
@@dennist7235 I have a Kymco Downtown and did a video on it. I love it, it is so fast and reliable but, I do not like the seat. For around town it is fine, but for longer journies not so much. Most bigger scooters are around 350 or so pounds and smaller ones around 250, they are easy to control and you can easily lift it if its down on its side. Where do you plan to use it mostly? Maybe an older 2013-14 Yamaha Zuma or Smax would be perfect. The Smax is pretty fast, will go up to 70mph and has a great seating position.
Overpriced underpowered gets lousy gas milage if you go anywhere near interstate speeds. Mine only does 76mph wide open with a tail wind. Those who think the Forza is so great are either being paid by Honda or have not ridden it a comparable Kymco like the 300 GTI people or a Downtown 300i. And last but not least the Forza has a serious "death wobble. Honda should hang it's head in shame.
Mine was able to cruise at 120km/h on the highway no problem. I got it up to 140km/h. But this was in Thailand, so it could be a different regional model.
I have this. It lasted me 7 years so far with 34,000 miles. As long as you read your manual and replace the parts when you are supposed to you won't break down.
That’s good to here. Saw one with 37,000 miles going for $3,200. Not sure if it’s a safe bye. It looks like it’s in excellent condition.
Russel that is too much money for one with that many miles
@@garyteague4480 Thanks. That is what my gut was telling me.
Did you replace the weights I find 17 give you the best lowend and ontop tho 18g better rms
At 1800 miles it shouldn't need parts replaced, unless Hondas wear out that fast. The make some decent motorcycles, but I have ahead 4 Honda Scooters, none were impressive, 2004 Honda Reflex fuel injected NSS, water leaks, oil leaks, a 2007 Reflex was ok, but didn't keep it long. A 2014 Forza, the Forza to me was a disastrous attempt at updating the Reflex, and I had a Silverwing 600. At 22000 miles the engine on the Silverwing developed a bad main bearing knock. Experience is the best teacher. My experience tells me there are much better scooters than anything Honda makes.
I’ve been on board some of your other scooter reviews and really like your well organized thoughts & comments for each ride. I’m a little late getting here, (4 years), but your information is still appreciated. Best to you. Rola (Oregon)👍🏻
I just bought my 2nd one of these after my first was stolen. I prefer thjs model over the newer one. Gets the same mpg and is a lot more comfortable. Love this scoot
I rode one in Thailand while I was living there. Probably the most practical vehicle ever. Has good acceleration off the line, and despite it’s size, it does fairly well filtering in Bangkok traffic. Also, it is a good bike to have with passengers. Speaking of which, I was able to carry 3 passengers at once on it once (myself, my wife, my friend, and his girlfriend).
How did they all fit at the same time? 😅 I wonder if the ride was a stressful one
@@jaxd7206 I scooted up a bit. My wife sat right behind me. My friend’s gf sat towards the front of the passengers seat (on the hump), and he sat all of the way at the back. We were only going like 3 miles, at 30 mph. It was a bit uncomfortable, but not too stressful when we got going.
Best review I’ve heard
Looking to buy one ,clicked on your video,heard your accent ,I was like,”ovaj je naš garant”
Ive had this for almost two years now, riding in NYC parking on the street year round. Riding it hard, full throttle always, highways, road like the surface of the moon, lowlifes trying to steal it unsuccessfully. Got with 2k Put 4k miles but im surprised it still alive. Front bearings are shot, probably needs valves adjusted. Will give updates
Thank you, everything I wanted to know in one video
Thanks for the review. Probably going to pick one of these up as a city/light highway commuter, since we’re likely not gonna get the ADV350 in the States anytime soom
The old Forzas just look like giant PCXs
good review..im looking for one now
This Forza is much better build quality than the new ones, the new ones are much lighter because it’s used for 300 350 and has to be light for the 125 engine,
This model was made to use a 300cc engine, they are solid like a huge pcx
Also I own the Honda forza 2015 ABS brakes and it's wonderful on the interstate I've had no issues at all would I take this versus of vespha all day long
I'm looking at buying one. Is it really that good? How is it in the city?
@@thechosen5805 best for city
My favorite highway cruiser was a Piaggio BV250. Smooth, strong and the seat reached peak discomfort early and never got worse. I could ride all day and feel fine at the end.
The Burgman 400 was more powerful, but the misery just kept building. By the end of the day I was thinking, "It's only another 50 miles. I can push the bike that far."
@@JustClaude13 I'm curious why did you not like the burgman 400 I'm just curious
@@jasontomica8938
It rode well and had a huge under seat bay, but I did my own maintenance, and everything I did involved massive surgery to get to the parts.
To replace the dash lights, I had to pull the panel off below the engine, then disassemble the leg shields. Continuing forward, the front fairing and windshield come off, then I can disassemble the dash panel and remove the instrument cluster.
On the Helix, when a dash light burnt out I pulled off the instrument panel. Period.
Adjusting the valves on the Burgman involved stripping the upper engine cover off, disassembling the intake manifold and removing the valve cover. On the Helix I had to pull the seat off (one screw) and turn the engine to top dead center, then turn the cam adjustment on the outside of the engine.
Plus, the Burgman had a smaller cockpit than the Helix, so my legs were a bit cramped on long trips.
It was a decent scooter, but there were a host of little annoyances.
I have a 2014 Honda Forza with doc pully sliders 17g i go 92 mph 0-60 8sec i am 6ft 3 ride for hrs fine
My 2014 struggles to hit 76moh
@@walthinckley8978 What weight of sliders are you using? u may need a new cluch or rollers 17g Keep your tire pressure at 33 psi
Whatever the factory puts in it the bike only has 2,200 miles on it
@@walthinckley8978 Well that's your problem you need to change the rollers and then put a better spring on it when u chang the cluch . need 42mm socket tho ezy to do ur self
I'm sorry I disagree for what Honda charges for what's really a little more than a 250cc bike why should I have to change clutch rollers and all that stuff to make it run like it should from the factory if you ever written a chemical downtown 300i it run circles around this damn Honda
Top speed?
Slayzlee around 75-80 mph depending on driver weight
My 2014 struggles to reach 76moh. The old Reflex was a better bike just more under powered
85 mph for me!!!
hey man is this automatic or does it have clutch and gears like a ninja or R3
Auto, it has a cvt transmission found in almost all scooters. No clutch, no shifting.
Le moteur ?
Even Honda claims only 67 miles per gallon
I bought this model 3 years ago. My fork was rubbish from the beginning. I have changed the oil several times. 2 months ago i bought a YSS KIT. IT was fine for 4 weeks only. I just want to put a grenade under the seat
sorry mate.
I could not agree more. Mine has the notorious "death wobble" lousy gas milage and tops out at 76mph. Over rated tv and over priced. No where near what the hype is
You aren't getting 80 miles per gallon on the Honda forza it's impossible most everybody's getting about 60 to 65 if you're lucky
Dude must weigh 100 pounds and drive 25mph.
Low 50s if you run 65mph
Do you need motorcycle license for it
Yes, in most states anything above 50cc will require a license.
How tall are you?
I’m right at 6ft.
Hi, what is your height? I’m 6 ft and am looking for a scooter recommendation. Also is this scooter easy to maintain?
I am 6 feet tall. It is fine for someone 6ft. What are you looking for? Something for around the city, a commuter, something that is capable ib both city and on the country roads? What is your budget and where are you located?
Nemanja thanks for the response. I’m looking for like a commuter, for daily commute to school and work. I live in NJ. I’m 17 at the moment and am saving up. Budget possibly $3000, what are some good entry level scooters for my height? Also what are the benefits of riding a scooter? I want to learn to ride a scooter until I make a decent amount of money then purchase a car.
@@dennist7235 learning takes only 10-15 minutes. once you get a hang of the throttle, you are good to go.
few things to consider, 50cc scooters dont require a license. you can choose from many if you have 3k to spend, but i would not recommend a 50cc as they are slow.
your best bet is a 150cc or something between 150 and 300cc.
50cc usually get about 100 mpg but only go up to 35-40 miles per hour.
150cc can get up to 100 mpg as well (80 avg) but go as fast as 65-70
300cc get about 65-75mpg but can go well above the speed limit, 85-90 mph.
also, the bigger the engne the bigger the bike, in most cases.
if you want to buy new, your best bet is a Kymco Like 150 (starting price is right at 3k) when you buy new you get a warranty and unlimited milage coverage.
Kymco is a Taiwanese scooter maker and one of the best in the world, they make scooters for BMW and Kawasaki and made engines for Honda.
Like 150i is fule injected and goes about 60-65 mph while getting about 80mpg. good storage, easy to ride and looks very nice.
Another great choice is a Honda Pcx 150, they start at $3600 are a bit bigger and very popular around the world. they can go up tp. 70 mph and get 100 mpg.
Yamaha sells the smax which is a little under 4k but is most powerful.
Other good choices are, Piaggio Beverly 150, Genuine Hooligan, Genuine Buddy, Kymco Agility 125... Other ok choices are any 150 from Lance.
Vespa is also a good option but they are very pricey.
If you want someting bigger, Honda Forza like one in this video is a good choice, they are around 2500-3500 in good shape with low miles, Kymco Downtown 300i is a great choice, Yamaha XMax 300 is also amazing but a bit pricy...
Overall, scooters are easy to ride and park, pretty easy to maintain on your own and unlike a traditional bike, offer storage under the seat.
They make great commuters. It all depends what matters to you the most, I think if you are not looking to take your scooter on super long journeys, and dont need to go over 60mph, the Kymco Like 150 and Honda PCX are your best options.
If you do want to go faster, Kymco Downtown 300i, SUzuki Burgman 200, Yamaha XMax and Honda Forza are all good choices.
Nemanja Hi, thanks for the response! Yes I agree I’m think of a 150cc or above. You think all those seats will be comfortable? I saw a kymco downtown for about $2500 on CycleTrader but am afraid of me being too tall. There’s so much option I’m interested right now but yeah Kymco or Honda pcx is a good choice for a beginner like me. Also, is it easy to carry it up if you do drop it? I’m scared those big scooters are really heavy like the forza which is 3 times my weight.
@@dennist7235 I have a Kymco Downtown and did a video on it. I love it, it is so fast and reliable but, I do not like the seat. For around town it is fine, but for longer journies not so much.
Most bigger scooters are around 350 or so pounds and smaller ones around 250, they are easy to control and you can easily lift it if its down on its side.
Where do you plan to use it mostly? Maybe an older 2013-14 Yamaha Zuma or Smax would be perfect. The Smax is pretty fast, will go up to 70mph and has a great seating position.
Just picked 2016 w 4k miles. Perfect cond th-cam.com/video/Drav0rxNaiI/w-d-xo.html Love this bike
Overpriced underpowered gets lousy gas milage if you go anywhere near interstate speeds. Mine only does 76mph wide open with a tail wind. Those who think the Forza is so great are either being paid by Honda or have not ridden it a comparable Kymco like the 300 GTI people or a Downtown 300i. And last but not least the Forza has a serious "death wobble. Honda should hang it's head in shame.
I didn’t have any issues as such but there are better bikes in this class for sure.
Stock windshield yeah not stable above 65 imo.
Mine was able to cruise at 120km/h on the highway no problem. I got it up to 140km/h. But this was in Thailand, so it could be a different regional model.
Just like big honda pcx not forza😅😂🤣