Nah thank you Gil for the perspective. Gil perspective of Dwight in Orlando was so deep even Dwight was shocked. 46 and 19 in a playoff game is CRAZY. Dwight Howard not included in the top 75 is CRAZY.
@@itsELL24 Haslem is clearly great at talking within the flow of conversation and he was actually IN the league. Snipe says his opinion that no one asks for 95% of the time and halts vital stories. Haslem doesn’t do anything close to that although, it doesn’t completely halt the momentum like snipe when haslem does.
U see how both dewight and gil was told first by someone who wasnt even a friend or family member they was gonna make it to the nba. Let that sink in. Thats the power of belief 💪
No its the power of someone with common sense. The same coach told those other kids they werent it because they werent. And dwight was probably 6’8 with a better build than lebron. Gil outplay someone off raw talent who had probably been training all their life.
@@iamrysheemI think his point is, why wasn’t it common for his family or friends to recognize then? You’re correct but missed the point of his comment. Your family would be the first with “common” sense then if they’re watching you grow. Sometimes it takes an outside person to tell you because they don’t know you so they’re not biased or looking at you as a kid still, not envious, plenty of reasons can determine that…has nothing to do with common sense.
@@jetvice5843im sorry if we’re being honest gil and dwight kinda slow and goofy. They talent was probably obvious to everybody but them. It definitely some(probably alot) tryna tear them down or be silent so they didnt see it but the 1 person speaking up really was just the 1 person stating the obvious. They were exceptional. Everybody is not gonna just find that confidence and then that will take them over the top because someone believed in them. Those people didn’t believe in them. They had eyes. At most you can say they werent haters
@@iamrysheemhe right, you would think family would be your biggest supporter, and usually that’s not the case. and they are not slow. there is a difference between playing dumb and being dumb. it’s funny because people who are actually dumb can’t tell the difference😂
I swear he wanna be cool so bad, he probably gon tell his kids he was in the league and show him this, question 1:32:11 what car Dwight had … like bruh Stern was paying Dwight , the streets was paying u , there’s levels to this shit
@@foewoody5389i was ab to say what?? bj was nice, yeah they aint the SUPERstars but still they got the right to talk i feel like.. even if we dont wanna hear it cuz we dont know. i aint know ab mccants before gil tbh .. but u see they dont shut down other people regardless of how they feel about the other person bc they still made it to that level
I was thinking the same thing. It’s almost like the guy in the barber shop trying to get off his sports takes to the athletes. I respect his knowledge of the game but fam gotta pull back a bit.
I had a new found respect for Dwight for coming back so quickly from the back surgery. I had the same surgery about 2 years prior to Dwight and in my early 20s. That injury took me a good 18 months to feel like myself again. On top of that you gotta work out completely differently than you did pre-injury. And I can only imagine Dwight still has occasional sciatica pain, I know I still do. It sucks. Wouldn't wish that injury on anyone, it's debilitating. Fans didn't understand at all.. Much respect Dwight.
They brought Jordan’s name up when Kobe was in his prime, too. They’ll bring up Jordan’s name up again when the next superstar emerges. Jordan will always be relevant because he “is simply the standard to which basketball excellence is measured.” -David Stern
@@coreythomas3633 use context he’s the only one to go 6-0 with 6 fmvp he and wilt are the only ones to average 30 ppg for their career and he also has the record with 9 defensive first teams. Don’t be stupid
@@kevinlambert5854as long as your just arguing greatness cause I can name far better defenders at his position like dwade and Sydney moncrief who didn’t have to play in the weakest sg era to get those counting stats yet no 9 all defensive ? maybe if they juiced their home stats.. shyt is far better defenders on his team and in his era in general pippen etc more versatile better on ball and in the lane no 9 all defensive seems fishy 2 me
Im a little confused when i hear 7 feet tall people say they were suprised when someone told them in high school that they have a good chance of making it to the NBA one day hahaha.
Comparing Dwight's All-nba selections to Ewing's is manipulative and you've gotta add context to that. Ewing was 7-time All-nba, Dwight was 8-time All-nba. Dwight was competing with guys like Yao Ming and Ben Wallace for All-nba spots. Ewing was competing with Hakeem, Shaq, David Robinson, and Alonzo Mourning. The greatest era of centers. He was also competing with those same guys for All-Defensive team spots
Exactly.. in 1989 Ewing average 11 rebounds and 4 blocks per game... Finished 5th in Defensive Player of the Year voting... Olajuwon averaged 14 rebounds, 2.1 steals and 4.6 blocks per game in 1989-90 and didn't win Defensive Player of the Year
Idc what numbers yall put up, the EYE TEST don’t lie. Give me a healthy Dwight prime over a healthy Ewing in his prime! Fuck who played against who Dwight woulda done fine again them same guys.
1:57:20 LeBron didn't score 25 points in the 4th quarter vs the 2004 pistons. He did that vs the 2007 Pistons in the Conference Finals, a team without the 4x Defensive player of the year. You were 10 years old, stop lying.
@@nydibsLeBron shot 41% for the entire 2007 playoffs 😂😂😂... Last two games of the 2007 Finals LeBron shot 19-53 with 11 turnovers... Cavs lost Game 4 by 3 and Game 4 by 1
Gil saying mj is only relevant because of lebron is insane. When the goat convo comes up mj is going to be brought up whether lebron is mentioned or not. Mj doesn’t even speak on the subject and he retired over 20 years ago. That alone should tell you something.
LeBron was drafted when he was 18, Michael Jordan was drafted when he was 21 Why wouldn't LeBron be the youngest scorer to score 10, 20, and 30 thousandth points
Lebron can score, but u know he was always more of a pass first player. For him to have the scoring title 20yrs in or not is wild. He not the only one that came in at 18. Mike was a score first killer from jump.
They say that because Kobe came out of high school too. Drafted at 17. Known as the ultimate killer. But Bron still got all those youngest records cause he came in ready to play and getting buckets early
So What's Your Excuse For LBJ Also Being The Oldest to Set Records ??? The Guy Avg 25 + / 20 straight Seasons on Better Efficiency While Being One of The Greatest Playmakers / Passers Ever (4th All Time) . Those Old Folks Tales Whike Eventually Run Out ...
@@rubikino7569 hate becomes so strong that truth will be ignored. Jordan and Lebron are my 2 favorite players. It baffles me that people feel the need to hate one just to like the other
When KG said 20-30 years ago you could not go into a triple step back he meant mf would be called for traveling on every possession. That was a time when real basketball was played and the NBA didnt allow circus rules to rule the game.
I Would love to see Dwights Pod make the deal with Underdog under the Gils Arena umbrella so he can help and maybe rotate some of the Gil Cast on to Above the rim pod and sheed and tyler that would be dope
Jordan having one of the most iconic career and shoe of all time and only being relevant because of Bron is a crazy take 🤦 when you say "relevant" I don't think Gil even really believes that...
@@thedrumcommitteemoney5862being brought up on occasion is cool but most jordanaires Bring up Jordan with every LeBron accomplishment. Most goofy hate channels that cry Jordan is goat mainly talk about LeBron. From a statistical standpoint Jordan is not on Brons level and that's a FACT.
And another thing Gil gotta stop capping. The media was calling Jordan a ball hog and was saying he would never win the way he was playing. Nobody was calling him the GOAT before he won. The media was crucifying Jordan for just scoring and not winning
@@Louisianimal-225EBRJordan was definitely called the GOAT before he won a title and he was criticized at the same time for not winning titles.. But, in Jordan's defense.. the team he was surrounded with his first few seasons would be lucky to go 10-72 every year 😂😂😂😂.. People who never watched don't understand just how much work Jordan put in to keep those teams competitive
I was born in 1979. My first memories of Michael Jordan as a basketball player began in the early 1990s not long after he won his last NBA title before retiring and coming to the NBA (I remember watching the NBA finals when the BULLS won against the SUNS after John Paxton hit the game winning shot). I remember him in the Magic Johnson AS game. The Jordan I saw was from 1990-1998. I didn't watch basketball as a kid in the 1980s and didn't start playing or becoming interested in basketball until I was in the 6th grade in 1990 and 1991. I literally remember the two three peat MJ in his prime. I didn't watch Bird and Magic in the 1980s because I was a kid who didn't know anything about basketball yet. So, my perspective on how good Bird Magic and Bird were as players was informed by people older than me. In contrast, I saw the ENTIRE basketball careers of Kobe Bryant and Lebron James. Seeing someone in real time is different than watching them on archival footage or hearing how great they were as players. In real time, Michael Jordan is the best player I saw in that 8-year span. The man one 6 NBA titles in those 8 years. That's the best run I've ever seen of an individual player. And I try to forget the Wizard Mike years. He was still 40 though averaging 20 as a player/GM because I remember when he scored 40 AT 40 years old in one game. It was all jumpers and fade-away shots. My top three players from what I've seen my lifetime are MJ, Lebron, and Kobe. Honorable mention to Hakeem the Dream (I'm from Houston). I still remember when he embarrassed Shaq and David Robinson in the playoffs. Sidenote: I just hate how Kareem Abdul-Jabbar gets dropped out these conversations.
@@cmoneyno5 Dwight Howard averaged 18 13 and 2.2 blocks has 5 nba first team selections 4 all defense first team selections 3 dpoy 6 all star selections all Shaq has is some numbers and 4 all stars from the 4 years he was there
@@morrisheightz He been on TH-cam for years and he’s finally a cohost with a big name star I get that people are irritated with him talking over people but to say he’s a moocher is crazy
The 10th grade... What an interesting perspective. I remember dropping 15 in one quarter against one of the top teams in the state. They had Jason Richardson on the team. At halftime, we were up by seven. We ended up losing by like 20 because they put in a zone to contain me. After the game, the coach of the team recruited me to start for his team. I passed it up to be "loyal" to my school. Biggest regret ever
@@Just4freepremiumas a former D1 runningback who only reason I didn’t make NFL was because of my hood upbringing… I can vouch that there are guys here in these comments that could be potential pros… we weren’t all born to be 9-5 workers never know who u talking to fr❤️🔥🙏🏾
At the end of day everyone has their passionate player . Mj , kobe , Bron , curry. Everyone is passionate about a player and will defend them no matter what lol
It's only when dudes are fans of LeBron you guys get in your feelings. If he was talking about MJ like that you guys would be saying "ahh.. you see that? og knows his hoops..." yall cornballs fr.
@@Kobiyashi77who tf is yall ? Ik you might be one of those dudes that debates mj vs lebron all day on twitter but that ain’t me. Having this much passion arguing another dude “goat” case is gay to me , lebron mj Kobe anybody
Really? Because bird in a win said he played against Michael Jordan but it wasn’t Michael Jordan. Barkley said he was the best in the nba until he played Jordan in the finals. Clyde thought he was the best until he met Jordan in the finals. Magic thought the same until he met Jordan in the finals; and also in practice of the Olympics on the dream team. So to say people just said he was the goat just to say it; that’s not accurate.
Lebron never scored 27 points straight on that team smh it pisses me off when people say that as a Pistons fan 😂😂. That was 3 years later and a completely different team and coach
Exactly. And there were more than 4 teams fouling hard. This kid was born in 94. He didn't even see 10% of the games before that time. He seen 4 teams fouled hard and 2 teams not foul hard. Gtfoh.
If anyone thinks Dwight Howard is better at basketball, then Patrick Ewing doesn't know ball. Robert Parish would've been the best center in the league from 07-15.
People that believe it didn't watch Ewing play. I have to remind myself when I hear these crazy takes that they are coming from kids younger than 30 who didn't watch basketball pre LeBron. Now if people want to say Howard a better defender than Ewing than sure. But Ewing has Howard beat as he was a much better skilled offensive player than Howard
@@lastshallbefirst5516 at all. He got most of his points from put backs or facing scrawny centers. But when you needed him yu create his own shot? He was a no show
The worst thing yall could’ve did was put Bron accolades next to Mike’s. That actually ruined your whole argument and he did all that in way less time 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@fernanjrdh18 when you read their accolades back to back out loud it’s actually not even close to what people try to make it and that’s not even my main metric but Bron fans love stats so hey 😂😂
2011 superteam choke by Peak Lebron killed any goat chance he had… let’s be fr. Media been trying hard since 2012 to force feed him back in the convo. That would’ve disqualified anybody else and y’all know it
Facts. Let the Durant warriors choke against the cavs, Spurs or rockets. Lol the media would have killed them. Curry or Durant could have went on to win 5 more rings, they would never recover from it.
They dedicated an entire segment to being genuinely hateful towards MJ…yikes…If that’s their opinion cool but damn…They act MJ did nothing in the NBA or for the NBA, or basketball culture as a whole…I respect everyone’s opinion but this was hateful
You are a lier Gil, no one said Jordan was the goat until he won his first 3 peat, from 88 they said he was the best player in the world at that time. I lived through that time and at that moment it was Kareem magic and bird in the conversation with wilt and Dr J
you stop lieing,MJ didn't do anything in no 88 he didn't start winning in 92 with pippin then he went and got rodman for his rebounds when the bulls paid him more money from the pistons
@user-ez9ne5su6j 😂😂Jordan was MVP, DPOY, scoring and steals Champ, etc, while Pippen rode the bench. Pippen developed under Jordan's leadership. Bulls won in 90-91. Jordan was the only All-Star on the Bulls
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 no he was being called the best player in the world. I was Ten in 89 and I remember being told Dr J could be the greatest, I was playing the Dr J vs Larry Bird video game.
he was a scorer bro that was his game,lebron is a forward scored 40 thousand a pass first guy with rookie coaches,mike and kobe had hall of fame coaches,lebron created his own system,when he retire at 45 with 8 rings
Manu invented the euro step back in that era. Some could pull the triple back step back then but things were officiated differently and might have been called a travel lol 😂. I think Kg meant they wouldn’t be as effective in his era by how things were officiated and how physical it was. People often look for fouls today and they wouldn’t get them which would cause them to be frustrated. I think most players could adapt to each era tho.
Man, KG and Gp would talk trash and make these snowflakes cry while dribbling up the court. Kyrie took a month off because he didn't like the world. Lebron and Russ get fans kicked out of games 😂. League and culture is soft. They couldn't survive back then. That's why eras shouldn't be compared. I imagine that if players from back then had to deal with social media, it'd be a struggle too, however... They dealt with that stuff face to face. Be pretty tough for someone 25yr old today, to go back 60 years ago and deal with segregation.
Michael Jordan is the only player in NBA history who's titles are won by himself. None, and I do mean, none of the other Bulls players get credit for those 6 titles. You would think Jordan was the only player on the court during that time. Championships are team accomplishments, not individuals, until you get to Jordan.
@@l.torrence4603 That’s cap. Jordan has always said he would not have been able to win those championships without Pippen and whenever you speak his name, you should speak Pippens too.
@puncho8799 it's not Lebron or Jordan that's talking. It's the media and fans' perception of who has done what in their careers. An Jordan fans plus the media Stephen A has dismissed the fact that someone not named Jordan also contributed to the bulls 6 titles.
@@l.torrence4603 Just like the media and Shannon Sharp and Nick Wright talk about LeBron without including his teammates when it comes to winning championships
On GOD I came here to type that same shit with the same time stamp😂😂😂😂 it was already a crazy pause but with Dwight's recent history and admittance to some of the behavior it is now DIABOLICAL 😂😂😂😂
@@dukeGed actually he is. It's a different perspective. And if you want to be technical about it, no one accomplished more than Bill Russell in less time-not even MJ. But those of us who actually saw Jordan will question that era of basketball as less talented, less competitive and not as many teams to go through. But that generation will look at us who believe Jordan is the G.O.A.T and laugh at us and think we're fools. At this point the debate is so tired and lame, just appreciate the greatness of both because along with Magic these are the three best guys I've ever watched play (and there are too many greats to mention)and when you think NBA Jordan, LBJ and Magic are the three that really impacted and transcended the game as had never been seen before.
The “pause” thing should really phase out your grown, leave that for the kids & teens. You’re killing the flow of conversation between grown men for the lamest reason fr
@@H1GHD3FFso did I, but it’s really not that funny when you’re having a real conversation -if you’re young I get it have your fun but otherwise I mean fr 🤷🏾♂️ “not everybody - Marlon craft”
The one thing that I believe ppl dont mention enough about why Kareems goat legacy was given away was because he converted, and the NBA along with the media didnt like that. So they was trying to find reasons to not talk about him as much. When Magic came they were saying hes better than Kareem while Kareem was clearly the GOAT at that time.
Kareem didn't help himself either. He hated the media and still do to this day. But to your point, it just shows the media Has bias towards players. Who ever player is marketable (shaq, LeBron, Curry, Jordan, magic ) those are going to be the guys they will push. Kyrie? Kobe (well until his case) nah, can't market them. Tim Duncan? Too boring. Durant? Another guy who hates the media and has the personality of a wall
@@MikeBNumba6 I agree with you, Kareem could have definitely done more from his side with the media as well. For sure the bias in media is too much sometimes but I guess in this world of creating narratives for clicks, they have to do what they gotta do to get paid. Its not right but thats life.
@@tahir1333 unfortunately what the media does; it works. That's exactly why you see so many dumb tales on social media. People who don't even watch a single game of the NBA are the loudest on the internet because they say the same things they hear from Stephen A smith or whatever talking head
Dwight please don't get dragged into Gill formula of shitting on the previous era. Each era revolutionised the nba for the better of the next era. In the 60s they were semi pros now they fly private. It will continue to evolve so let's respect all era and the players that got the game here. All nba players are the best of the best. Anyone on top 75 is a legend.
lol, Dwight is not better then Patrick Ewing are you serious lol
Hmm 🤔
Yeah I’m taking prime Howard easy
Hell yea Easy . @dwight yo dont take these trolls serious dog
@@joshuabarnes2582 Bro even Right now lol
Man what? Close fight but Dwight is more advanced with footwork and dribbling (obviously he’s not kyri with it I mean it as a big man)
Would these host stfu and let Gil finish his stories GAH LEEEEEE…
They feel equal for some odd reason
Everyone has a different opinion
I know mannn dude gotta just chill
Nah fr😂 bro was tryna tell the story for Gil
Dude please stop speaking so much, we’re here to listen to DWIGHT and GIL
Nah thank you Gil for the perspective. Gil perspective of Dwight in Orlando was so deep even Dwight was shocked. 46 and 19 in a playoff game is CRAZY. Dwight Howard not included in the top 75 is CRAZY.
Facts
Just bias people who never played ball voting for others and not him.. wtf
It's criminal that Dwight is hot in the top 75
Damn snipe talks over everyone. Makes this pod almost impossible to enjoy.
Udonis Haslem does the same on OG's. Somebody needs to tell them to stop talking over guests
It’s so annoying!!!
@@itsELL24 Haslem is clearly great at talking within the flow of conversation and he was actually IN the league. Snipe says his opinion that no one asks for 95% of the time and halts vital stories. Haslem doesn’t do anything close to that although, it doesn’t completely halt the momentum like snipe when haslem does.
U see how both dewight and gil was told first by someone who wasnt even a friend or family member they was gonna make it to the nba. Let that sink in. Thats the power of belief 💪
No its the power of someone with common sense. The same coach told those other kids they werent it because they werent. And dwight was probably 6’8 with a better build than lebron.
Gil outplay someone off raw talent who had probably been training all their life.
@@iamrysheemI think his point is, why wasn’t it common for his family or friends to recognize then? You’re correct but missed the point of his comment. Your family would be the first with “common” sense then if they’re watching you grow. Sometimes it takes an outside person to tell you because they don’t know you so they’re not biased or looking at you as a kid still, not envious, plenty of reasons can determine that…has nothing to do with common sense.
@@jetvice5843im sorry if we’re being honest gil and dwight kinda slow and goofy. They talent was probably obvious to everybody but them.
It definitely some(probably alot) tryna tear them down or be silent so they didnt see it but the 1 person speaking up really was just the 1 person stating the obvious.
They were exceptional. Everybody is not gonna just find that confidence and then that will take them over the top because someone believed in them.
Those people didn’t believe in them. They had eyes. At most you can say they werent haters
@@iamrysheemhe right, you would think family would be your biggest supporter, and usually that’s not the case. and they are not slow. there is a difference between playing dumb and being dumb. it’s funny because people who are actually dumb can’t tell the difference😂
Hell yeah
Dwight saying “pause” is hilarious
Yea, he apart of that community. He gotta chill
what would be the opposite of “pause” tho
Dwight - “we gone touch on that later…
(then he just pauses, and no one else says pause?)
Why co host moisture his lips like that 😂😂😂 like he be sucking off Dwight pause.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's as gay as the rest of the dudes that say pause nonstop. who's that insecure? 😂
Grey hoodie co host talking wayyyyyy too much. Bro we get it…you used to hoop like the rest of us, but we’re here to hear from the NBA guys 😂😂😂
Exactly. Like stfu. He starting to be like Brandon J. Talking to talk.
Yall must not know wtf a host is supposed to do y’all both sound dumb as fuck
I swear he wanna be cool so bad, he probably gon tell his kids he was in the league and show him this, question 1:32:11 what car Dwight had … like bruh Stern was paying Dwight , the streets was paying u , there’s levels to this shit
@@freeprobj was cold lol
@@foewoody5389i was ab to say what?? bj was nice, yeah they aint the SUPERstars but still they got the right to talk i feel like.. even if we dont wanna hear it cuz we dont know. i aint know ab mccants before gil tbh .. but u see they dont shut down other people regardless of how they feel about the other person bc they still made it to that level
Dwight tell your friend we not here for him 😂
Young black dude tlk too damn much we are NOT tryna hear you ..let the Pros talk bruh
Dawg gotta let Gil talk, who is this guy bro smh
Man he wanted to be the star. U gotta let your guest talk
Yeah it was pretty bad at the start but it got better as the interview went on. I think he’s just excited to have Gil on
@@itsELL24until he claimed Bron went off on the 04 pistons. 😂 He ain't too bright.
I was thinking the same thing. It’s almost like the guy in the barber shop trying to get off his sports takes to the athletes. I respect his knowledge of the game but fam gotta pull back a bit.
Yes bro. Terrible host
I had a new found respect for Dwight for coming back so quickly from the back surgery.
I had the same surgery about 2 years prior to Dwight and in my early 20s. That injury took me a good 18 months to feel like myself again. On top of that you gotta work out completely differently than you did pre-injury. And I can only imagine Dwight still has occasional sciatica pain, I know I still do. It sucks. Wouldn't wish that injury on anyone, it's debilitating.
Fans didn't understand at all.. Much respect Dwight.
Grey hoodie said if they rank the top 75 Howard prolly top 15-20 man take his fuckin mic and have him sit in the corner
He not lyin gang
@@mccoy6910log out get some rest you sleepy bro
They brought Jordan’s name up when Kobe was in his prime, too. They’ll bring up Jordan’s name up again when the next superstar emerges. Jordan will always be relevant because he “is simply the standard to which basketball excellence is measured.” -David Stern
😂😂😂😂 TOO WHO EXACTLY HE DONT HAVE THE MOST RINGS IN THE SPORT
@@coreythomas3633 use context he’s the only one to go 6-0 with 6 fmvp he and wilt are the only ones to average 30 ppg for their career and he also has the record with 9 defensive first teams. Don’t be stupid
@@coreythomas3633 and I hope your argument for rings isn’t bill Russell who won all his rings when the nba had only 8 total teams.
@@kevinlambert5854 cook
@@kevinlambert5854as long as your just arguing greatness cause I can name far better defenders at his position like dwade and Sydney moncrief who didn’t have to play in the weakest sg era to get those counting stats yet no 9 all defensive ? maybe if they juiced their home stats.. shyt is far better defenders on his team and in his era in general pippen etc more versatile better on ball and in the lane no 9 all defensive seems fishy 2 me
Im a little confused when i hear 7 feet tall people say they were suprised when someone told them in high school that they have a good chance of making it to the NBA one day hahaha.
Comparing Dwight's All-nba selections to Ewing's is manipulative and you've gotta add context to that. Ewing was 7-time All-nba, Dwight was 8-time All-nba. Dwight was competing with guys like Yao Ming and Ben Wallace for All-nba spots. Ewing was competing with Hakeem, Shaq, David Robinson, and Alonzo Mourning. The greatest era of centers. He was also competing with those same guys for All-Defensive team spots
Exactly.. in 1989 Ewing average 11 rebounds and 4 blocks per game... Finished 5th in Defensive Player of the Year voting... Olajuwon averaged 14 rebounds, 2.1 steals and 4.6 blocks per game in 1989-90 and didn't win Defensive Player of the Year
Look again Dwight's all NBA's are first team not all Ewing's are
@@breeze2tymes go ahead and read my comment again. Dwight played in the weakest era of centers
@@breeze2tymes Dwight was the only Center in the NBA 😂😂😂... Ewing average 24 11 and 4 blocks and was maybe the 5th best Center 🤣🤣🤣 different era
Idc what numbers yall put up, the EYE TEST don’t lie. Give me a healthy Dwight prime over a healthy Ewing in his prime! Fuck who played against who Dwight woulda done fine again them same guys.
The one dude need a pod alone cause he just wants to hear himself.
Man this is the one I've been waiting for! I hope yall enjoy this one!
Stop talking so much bru🤦🏽♂️
1:57:20
LeBron didn't score 25 points in the 4th quarter vs the 2004 pistons.
He did that vs the 2007 Pistons in the Conference Finals, a team without the 4x Defensive player of the year.
You were 10 years old, stop lying.
and that was one of only 2 games Lebron actually played great in. He was 3/11 in the clincher, but he "hard carried"
@@nydibsLeBron shot 41% for the entire 2007 playoffs 😂😂😂... Last two games of the 2007 Finals LeBron shot 19-53 with 11 turnovers... Cavs lost Game 4 by 3 and Game 4 by 1
and Rasheed was now old Billups, Hamilton, were now mid 30s the whole team was different but do you know who beat that 04 pistons WADE
Damn yall circle jerkin in here 🤣🤣🤣
Gil saying mj is only relevant because of lebron is insane. When the goat convo comes up mj is going to be brought up whether lebron is mentioned or not. Mj doesn’t even speak on the subject and he retired over 20 years ago. That alone should tell you something.
Saying pause to Dwight after recent events is diabolical an super funny 😁 😂😂
SAW Gil and D12 CLICKED FAST AF
Nah frl
Pause
@@lamarlashley8738resume… corny ass.
So...
On god lmaooo know it finna be hilarious
LeBron was drafted when he was 18, Michael Jordan was drafted when he was 21
Why wouldn't LeBron be the youngest scorer to score 10, 20, and 30 thousandth points
Lebron can score, but u know he was always more of a pass first player. For him to have the scoring title 20yrs in or not is wild. He not the only one that came in at 18. Mike was a score first killer from jump.
these people are legit idiots
They say that because Kobe came out of high school too. Drafted at 17. Known as the ultimate killer. But Bron still got all those youngest records cause he came in ready to play and getting buckets early
So What's Your Excuse For LBJ Also Being The Oldest to Set Records ??? The Guy Avg 25 + / 20 straight Seasons on Better Efficiency While Being One of The Greatest Playmakers / Passers Ever (4th All Time) . Those Old Folks Tales Whike Eventually Run Out ...
@@rubikino7569 hate becomes so strong that truth will be ignored. Jordan and Lebron are my 2 favorite players. It baffles me that people feel the need to hate one just to like the other
Dude in the hoodie talks too much..
He supposed to , it’s a podcast dummy
Kinda but he kinda knowledgeable tho
That’s his job. He is the host
“The host of this podcast talks too much”😂
I said the same thing. Dude needs to learn how to listen more than he talks.
Love seeing you both chop it up. Them Adidas brothers best support the family! Bring on Timmy, T-Mac, D-Rose!
When KG said 20-30 years ago you could not go into a triple step back he meant mf would be called for traveling on every possession. That was a time when real basketball was played and the NBA didnt allow circus rules to rule the game.
Exactly. The guys can Carry and palm the Ball. Traveling is now allowed. It's Crazy
This episode is going to be 🔥
this one gonna do numbers
I Would love to see Dwights Pod make the deal with Underdog under the Gils Arena umbrella so he can help and maybe rotate some of the Gil Cast on to Above the rim pod and sheed and tyler that would be dope
Hell yea if dwight join underdog it’s over
“Maybach was sending me maybachs” damn that sounded smooth as hell 😭😭😭😭😭
The day Jordan isn't the goat will be the last days
I am a subscriber. Yall are fun to watch!! Great production fellas
Jordan having one of the most iconic career and shoe of all time and only being relevant because of Bron is a crazy take 🤦 when you say "relevant" I don't think Gil even really believes that...
Jordan gave Gil a career he don’t believe shit he say
This is what they're talking about sad you don't understand
Cap it's others that got more rings and others did better than 3 peat it was 8 straight and other player like John was 8-0 in the finals
@williamchillward and still non of those players get brought up in any debate for real yet alone the goat debate
@@thedrumcommitteemoney5862being brought up on occasion is cool but most jordanaires Bring up Jordan with every LeBron accomplishment. Most goofy hate channels that cry Jordan is goat mainly talk about LeBron. From a statistical standpoint Jordan is not on Brons level and that's a FACT.
Amazing episode. Two Legends that are hilarious
Love this for Dwight
I swear I love listening to Gil. He makes sense about reality when you break it down
And another thing Gil gotta stop capping. The media was calling Jordan a ball hog and was saying he would never win the way he was playing. Nobody was calling him the GOAT before he won. The media was crucifying Jordan for just scoring and not winning
I agree , but once he won 2 they were calling him the GOAT easily.
@@Supreme36074yea.. prolly cuz he avg 30 and won DPOY nobody else did that shut😂
@@Louisianimal-225EBRJordan was definitely called the GOAT before he won a title and he was criticized at the same time for not winning titles.. But, in Jordan's defense.. the team he was surrounded with his first few seasons would be lucky to go 10-72 every year 😂😂😂😂.. People who never watched don't understand just how much work Jordan put in to keep those teams competitive
@@cmoneyno5 .. like I said…MJ was criticized heavily before he won. Just a fact
@@Louisianimal-225EBR Even with the criticism he was still considered the GOAT...
I was born in 1979. My first memories of Michael Jordan as a basketball player began in the early 1990s not long after he won his last NBA title before retiring and coming to the NBA (I remember watching the NBA finals when the BULLS won against the SUNS after John Paxton hit the game winning shot). I remember him in the Magic Johnson AS game. The Jordan I saw was from 1990-1998. I didn't watch basketball as a kid in the 1980s and didn't start playing or becoming interested in basketball until I was in the 6th grade in 1990 and 1991. I literally remember the two three peat MJ in his prime. I didn't watch Bird and Magic in the 1980s because I was a kid who didn't know anything about basketball yet. So, my perspective on how good Bird Magic and Bird were as players was informed by people older than me.
In contrast, I saw the ENTIRE basketball careers of Kobe Bryant and Lebron James. Seeing someone in real time is different than watching them on archival footage or hearing how great they were as players.
In real time, Michael Jordan is the best player I saw in that 8-year span. The man one 6 NBA titles in those 8 years. That's the best run I've ever seen of an individual player.
And I try to forget the Wizard Mike years. He was still 40 though averaging 20 as a player/GM because I remember when he scored 40 AT 40 years old in one game. It was all jumpers and fade-away shots.
My top three players from what I've seen my lifetime are MJ, Lebron, and Kobe. Honorable mention to Hakeem the Dream (I'm from Houston). I still remember when he embarrassed Shaq and David Robinson in the playoffs.
Sidenote: I just hate how Kareem Abdul-Jabbar gets dropped out these conversations.
Why is the dude in the hoodie so loud and extra. He should Shut up and let them do the interview. Smh
😂The Host & guest just glaze Dwight Howard for 50% or more of the podcast💯
I came here to listen to Dwight and Gilbert. Not dude glaze Lebron
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great episode 12 i hit the subscribe button 💯
Dwight been done wrong with the top 75 getting left and the fact the magic had the nerve to retire Shaq jersey before d12
Shaq is the greatest player in Magic history 27.2 points 12.5 rebounds and 2.8 blocks per game
@@cmoneyno5 Dwight Howard averaged 18 13 and 2.2 blocks has 5 nba first team selections 4 all defense first team selections 3 dpoy 6 all star selections all Shaq has is some numbers and 4 all stars from the 4 years he was there
@@kevinlambert5854 Shaq was competing with Mourning, Ewing, Olajuwon and Robinson for All NBA and All Defensive spots 🤣🤣🤣
@@kevinlambert5854 Dwight wasn't playing vs anyone worth a damn at Center
@@kevinlambert5854 Shaq's 4 years in Orlando was great enough to make the NBA All Time Top 50 list 🤣🤣... you forgot that part
1:04:33 as someone from Eddy Rd. and St. Clair he’s 100% correct. We all feel that way too 😂
This podcast and Gil’s will both be number 1 gill because of his takes and Dwight’s because of how personable he is !
Maaaan grey hoodie smoking that Reggie bush, pause.
Finally someone says a goat debate is only between the top two ppl! How the hell are ppl considering 3-7 in a debate?!
These hosts that are doing these podcast with NBA players need to realize we do not want to hear you talk over the professionals. We're here for them.
Buddy had a Chip on his Shoulder the whole Podcast 🤣🤣🤣
Boi wild 😂😂😂
Bro I’m crying cause I was like was that a fucking sun chip bro 😂😂😂😂
good pod bros cleaned the entire house to this
You have to be jordan to be better. He's the standard.
A video over 2.5hours😮 never a dull moment🔥only fun, interesting, and inspiring💯really great one, thank you guys💕
Snipe been putting in work on TH-cam for a minute good to him on a big platform like well deserved
He continues to talk over the guests and interrupts them. It’s annoying.
Not well deserved bro just popped up and mooching off ppl , nobody watches HIM voluntarily
@@morrisheightz He been on TH-cam for years and he’s finally a cohost with a big name star I get that people are irritated with him talking over people but to say he’s a moocher is crazy
Dwight is a Top 20 player of all time by any metric you can think of.
6 for 6 is tufffffffffff🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
How come every Gilbert looks like their name should be Gilbert 🤣
The 10th grade... What an interesting perspective. I remember dropping 15 in one quarter against one of the top teams in the state. They had Jason Richardson on the team. At halftime, we were up by seven. We ended up losing by like 20 because they put in a zone to contain me. After the game, the coach of the team recruited me to start for his team. I passed it up to be "loyal" to my school. Biggest regret ever
Cap, lie, fabrication. Go tell someone this story in person. You get no clout from lying in the comment section.
@@Just4freepremium I pray you find healing 🙏
@@astheskylarksingspray? To who? Fairy tale magician? 😂
@@Just4freepremium to the only entity who can release you from your demons-God. Do you deny you that you are gripped by demonic forces?
@@Just4freepremiumas a former D1 runningback who only reason I didn’t make NFL was because of my hood upbringing… I can vouch that there are guys here in these comments that could be potential pros… we weren’t all born to be 9-5 workers never know who u talking to fr❤️🔥🙏🏾
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Michael Jordan got his statue in November 1994 he was retired he was playing then he came out of retirement in 1995
🤔 Dwight gotta start doing this podcast sober 🍁. The quality of the Pod would increase.
Snipe with the early pause is hilarious lmfaooo.
That may have been a slight stretch tho 😂
No. That was stupid af
The Bron glazin was crazy
Gray hoodie need to shut up
Fire episode Gill always gives good pod talk
"He made me run laps" LMFAOOOO
Dwight was looking like he was thinking "Naw old Pat was killing me in practice when he was my center's coach"😂😂
Does grey hoodie go to sleep with lebron pajamas and bed sheets? Man is passionate about bron
yeah for sure the way he just be passionate about defending bron
At the end of day everyone has their passionate player . Mj , kobe , Bron , curry. Everyone is passionate about a player and will defend them no matter what lol
It's only when dudes are fans of LeBron you guys get in your feelings. If he was talking about MJ like that you guys would be saying "ahh.. you see that? og knows his hoops..." yall cornballs fr.
Yeah he gotta crush on lebron..
@@Kobiyashi77who tf is yall ? Ik you might be one of those dudes that debates mj vs lebron all day on twitter but that ain’t me.
Having this much passion arguing another dude “goat” case is gay to me , lebron mj Kobe anybody
Always great with Gil on the podcast, keep it up 🔥.
Laker nation wasn’t mad until you left we wanted you back and was happy you came in first place
Fatcs real lakers fans
We're mad at Rob. Not Dwight.
Happy he came is wild 😂😂😂
Congratulations to snipe. Came a long way bro. Break got to be proud. 👏🏿
GILBERT IS A SUPER 🤡 JORDAN DONT MATTER BUT HE HAS THE NUMBER ONE SHOE FOREVER GILBERT IS A SUPER 🤡
Right!! 💯
@@puncho8799CLOWN ARGUMENT WHO CARES ABOUT A SHOE.. 😅😅😅 HE NOT BETTER THAN BRON😅😅😅
The goat talk was crazzzzy
Who tf this lil dood who can’t even reach the ground🤡
😂😂😂. Homeboy telling his personal stories as if we care. We’re here for Gil and Dwight
Really? Because bird in a win said he played against Michael Jordan but it wasn’t Michael Jordan.
Barkley said he was the best in the nba until he played Jordan in the finals.
Clyde thought he was the best until he met Jordan in the finals.
Magic thought the same until he met Jordan in the finals; and also in practice of the Olympics on the dream team.
So to say people just said he was the goat just to say it; that’s not accurate.
Lebron never scored 27 points straight on that team smh it pisses me off when people say that as a Pistons fan 😂😂. That was 3 years later and a completely different team and coach
Ben Wallace was gone smh
Facts
Exactly. And there were more than 4 teams fouling hard. This kid was born in 94. He didn't even see 10% of the games before that time. He seen 4 teams fouled hard and 2 teams not foul hard. Gtfoh.
that was annoying to watch him say
Aite well how bout the 04-05 season. When Lebron averaged 30 against the defending champion pistons.
Gil been in so much interviews and still got shit yo talk about 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dwight being his teammate he was able to ask questions others csnt
The dude in the gray hoodie is so annoying!
The conversation towards the end is very important. Comparing the old nba to today's nba. It has to be talked about more.
If anyone thinks Dwight Howard is better at basketball, then Patrick Ewing doesn't know ball. Robert Parish would've been the best center in the league from 07-15.
People that believe it didn't watch Ewing play. I have to remind myself when I hear these crazy takes that they are coming from kids younger than 30 who didn't watch basketball pre LeBron.
Now if people want to say Howard a better defender than Ewing than sure. But Ewing has Howard beat as he was a much better skilled offensive player than Howard
Exactly 💯!!! Ewing is a legend, Dwight was lazy and couldn’t be counted on to score in the clutch
@@lastshallbefirst5516 at all. He got most of his points from put backs or facing scrawny centers. But when you needed him yu create his own shot?
He was a no show
@@lastshallbefirst5516 i was literally agreeing with you and talking about Howard. Read it again
@@MikeBNumba6 💯!!
Every NBA story I start to tear up yo! Just to hear how someone admire another! Its beautiful and inspirational
The worst thing yall could’ve did was put Bron accolades next to Mike’s. That actually ruined your whole argument and he did all that in way less time 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Old head alert 😂
@@fernanjrdh18 when you read their accolades back to back out loud it’s actually not even close to what people try to make it and that’s not even my main metric but Bron fans love stats so hey 😂😂
All what two more titles 😂
@@Supreme36074 da man got 5 extra years and still has 2 less titles fam.
@@mrheishimnow use that logic with Mj and Russell
Shot out to snipe, he deserves to be in these conversations
2011 superteam choke by Peak Lebron killed any goat chance he had… let’s be fr. Media been trying hard since 2012 to force feed him back in the convo. That would’ve disqualified anybody else and y’all know it
Facts. Let the Durant warriors choke against the cavs, Spurs or rockets.
Lol the media would have killed them. Curry or Durant could have went on to win 5 more rings, they would never recover from it.
@@MikeBNumba6 BINGO. All facts
@@MikeBNumba6mj. A CHOKER 1 9 WITHOUT SCOTTIE A FIRST ROUND LOSER. Please stop it
@@Louisianimal-225EBRmj. A CHOKER 1 9 WITHOUT SCOTTIE A FIRST ROUND LOSER. Please stop it
@@MikeBNumba6mj. A CHOKER 1 9 WITHOUT SCOTTIE A FIRST ROUND LOSER. Please stop it
They dedicated an entire segment to being genuinely hateful towards MJ…yikes…If that’s their opinion cool but damn…They act MJ did nothing in the NBA or for the NBA, or basketball culture as a whole…I respect everyone’s opinion but this was hateful
You are a lier Gil, no one said Jordan was the goat until he won his first 3 peat, from 88 they said he was the best player in the world at that time.
I lived through that time and at that moment it was Kareem magic and bird in the conversation with wilt and Dr J
you stop lieing,MJ didn't do anything in no 88 he didn't start winning in 92 with pippin then he went and got rodman for his rebounds when the bulls paid him more money from the pistons
Jordan was definitely being called the BOAT by 88/89 by fans, media, players, commentators, gms, and coaches. Kareem wasn't in the debate.
@user-ez9ne5su6j 😂😂Jordan was MVP, DPOY, scoring and steals Champ, etc, while Pippen rode the bench. Pippen developed under Jordan's leadership. Bulls won in 90-91. Jordan was the only All-Star on the Bulls
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 no he was being called the best player in the world.
I was Ten in 89 and I remember being told Dr J could be the greatest, I was playing the Dr J vs Larry Bird video game.
MJ had 4 scoring titles before he won the title in 1991. He won 6 more after that from 91 season to 98 season. 10 in total.
It's absurd KD has only 3 I think 😮
That’s what happens when you’re the most selfish basketball player of ALL TIME.
he was a scorer bro that was his game,lebron is a forward scored 40 thousand a pass first guy with rookie coaches,mike and kobe had hall of fame coaches,lebron created his own system,when he retire at 45 with 8 rings
Dude really shot 25+ alll those year with 11 free throws he should have 10 scoring titles
lol no competition those 10 years, look who was the 2nd under mj every year… only 20 players in that decade avg 20+ points
Amazing show.
Manu invented the euro step back in that era. Some could pull the triple back step back then but things were officiated differently and might have been called a travel lol 😂. I think Kg meant they wouldn’t be as effective in his era by how things were officiated and how physical it was. People often look for fouls today and they wouldn’t get them which would cause them to be frustrated. I think most players could adapt to each era tho.
It was done before then, just called something else, modern era was able to spam it though stating with Manu
Man, KG and Gp would talk trash and make these snowflakes cry while dribbling up the court. Kyrie took a month off because he didn't like the world. Lebron and Russ get fans kicked out of games 😂. League and culture is soft. They couldn't survive back then. That's why eras shouldn't be compared. I imagine that if players from back then had to deal with social media, it'd be a struggle too, however... They dealt with that stuff face to face. Be pretty tough for someone 25yr old today, to go back 60 years ago and deal with segregation.
@Supreme36074 I just seen some Larry Bird clips of him doing the step back
Manu stole Sarunas Marciulionis whole style.
Just couldn't finish watching and listening to this with that host who just keeps on talking for no reason.
Michael Jordan is the only player in NBA history who's titles are won by himself. None, and I do mean, none of the other Bulls players get credit for those 6 titles. You would think Jordan was the only player on the court during that time. Championships are team accomplishments, not individuals, until you get to Jordan.
i mean his ENTIRE team averaged less than 60 pts a game 😂
@@l.torrence4603 That’s cap. Jordan has always said he would not have been able to win those championships without Pippen and whenever you speak his name, you should speak Pippens too.
@@l.torrence4603 I don’t see LeBron giving too much praise to his teammates for winning in Cleveland when Kyrie was the one that hit the big shot
@puncho8799 it's not Lebron or Jordan that's talking. It's the media and fans' perception of who has done what in their careers. An Jordan fans plus the media Stephen A has dismissed the fact that someone not named Jordan also contributed to the bulls 6 titles.
@@l.torrence4603 Just like the media and Shannon Sharp and Nick Wright talk about LeBron without including his teammates when it comes to winning championships
aighhttttt I finally subbed lol ... y'all did the best Gil interview to date
“We gona touch on it later on” is wild Dwight🤦🏾♂️🤣 1:27
What's wild is people turning every expression into a double entendra for some sort of sexual reference.
@@Just4freepremium yeah that shit was a reach
Bruh how old are you everything ain’t gay damn!
It wasn't wild at all. That guy is childish af. Ya'll mfer's don't know how to talk like adults
On GOD I came here to type that same shit with the same time stamp😂😂😂😂 it was already a crazy pause but with Dwight's recent history and admittance to some of the behavior it is now DIABOLICAL 😂😂😂😂
He's so on point with the Jordan/LBJ G.O.A.T debate. I never thought of it like that
hes not, mj better player, who achieved more in less time, simple
@@dukeGed actually he is. It's a different perspective. And if you want to be technical about it, no one accomplished more than Bill Russell in less time-not even MJ. But those of us who actually saw Jordan will question that era of basketball as less talented, less competitive and not as many teams to go through. But that generation will look at us who believe Jordan is the G.O.A.T and laugh at us and think we're fools. At this point the debate is so tired and lame, just appreciate the greatness of both because along with Magic these are the three best guys I've ever watched play (and there are too many greats to mention)and when you think NBA Jordan, LBJ and Magic are the three that really impacted and transcended the game as had never been seen before.
The “pause” thing should really phase out your grown, leave that for the kids & teens. You’re killing the flow of conversation between grown men for the lamest reason fr
It's the era I grew up in and it's hilarious
Fr
@@H1GHD3FFso did I, but it’s really not that funny when you’re having a real conversation -if you’re young I get it have your fun but otherwise I mean fr 🤷🏾♂️ “not everybody - Marlon craft”
Tell that to the dudes that started it in the 70s/80s lol
Grown men who love on other grown men🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂😂
Gill stole the mans underwear and wore them his whole career
Gilbert Arenas has become an ambassador for the culture of basketball! Great Job!
The one thing that I believe ppl dont mention enough about why Kareems goat legacy was given away was because he converted, and the NBA along with the media didnt like that. So they was trying to find reasons to not talk about him as much. When Magic came they were saying hes better than Kareem while Kareem was clearly the GOAT at that time.
Kareem didn't help himself either. He hated the media and still do to this day.
But to your point, it just shows the media Has bias towards players. Who ever player is marketable (shaq, LeBron, Curry, Jordan, magic ) those are going to be the guys they will push.
Kyrie? Kobe (well until his case) nah, can't market them. Tim Duncan? Too boring. Durant? Another guy who hates the media and has the personality of a wall
@@MikeBNumba6 I agree with you, Kareem could have definitely done more from his side with the media as well. For sure the bias in media is too much sometimes but I guess in this world of creating narratives for clicks, they have to do what they gotta do to get paid. Its not right but thats life.
@@tahir1333 unfortunately what the media does; it works. That's exactly why you see so many dumb tales on social media.
People who don't even watch a single game of the NBA are the loudest on the internet because they say the same things they hear from Stephen A smith or whatever talking head
If Dwight never gets hurt he polishes his offense and becomes a force
Dwight please don't get dragged into Gill formula of shitting on the previous era. Each era revolutionised the nba for the better of the next era. In the 60s they were semi pros now they fly private. It will continue to evolve so let's respect all era and the players that got the game here. All nba players are the best of the best. Anyone on top 75 is a legend.
This is probably one of the greatest episode even if this PC last for 30years