170: Mike Israetel - Effective Reps

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  • Mike is back on the podcast with another fantastic episode. He talks about NO supplements, the pump and the concept of effective reps.
    Timestamps:
    01:02 How important is equipment to be the best bodybuilder
    05:24 Mike's take on effective reps
    16:55 What to do nutritionally while travelling?
    19:36 Pump and causative role in hypertrophy and NO supplements worth taken
    21:26 Pre-exhaustion before heavy compounds beneficial for hypertrophy
    30:09 MIkes thoughts on pause reps and slow tempo
    32:40 Approach to trying a new exercise for the first time and not growing from it at the beginning?
    41:32 Mike shares insight on his current training split
    45:16 Most surprising result/experience for Mike and talks about effective reps concept
    54:08 Weighted vest experiment for fat loss or contest prep
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  • @ReviveStronger
    @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Timestamps:
    01:02 How important is equipment to be the best bodybuilder
    05:24 Mike's take on effective reps
    16:55 What to do nutritionally while travelling?
    19:36 Pump and causative role in hypertrophy and NO supplements worth taken
    21:26 Pre-exhaustion before heavy compounds beneficial for hypertrophy
    30:09 MIkes thoughts on pause reps and slow tempo
    32:40 Approach to trying a new exercise for the first time and not growing from it at the beginning?
    41:32 Mike shares insight on his current training split
    45:16 Most surprising result/experience for Mike and talks about effective reps concept
    54:08 Weighted vest experiment for fat loss or contest prep

    • @MrGflan
      @MrGflan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Revive Stronger great video!! Bigfoot would be jealous of Mike’s chest hair though!! JK. Can you help with a question? I never understood how hard I should push for hypertrophy. For instance, does me mean that you should go shy of failure on every set even at the end? So say if you are doing a pull day. At the end, the last set of biceps, if I pyramid and push to total failure, does this mess with hypertrophy or would I have been better off finishing just shy of failure and knowing I could have burned it out? I guess you have to look at next week also right? Like if I do that much, I might not recover enough for the next week? In my mind I’m thinking that failure is needed to grow but I guess this isn’t the case? Just curious what you think. Little muscles recover faster also? Just curious thanks!!

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We still don't know to what extent pushing to failure leads to hypertrophy. Studies suggest that being 1-2 reps away from it yield the same amount of hypertrophy, however, I do think that more experienced individuals probably need to go to failure more often. So, in your case, pushing to failure every now and then is probably fine. Especially in a week before a deload and on single joint exercises
      - Pascal

  • @adamek9750
    @adamek9750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    big hairy muscle daddy back again

    • @invisipunk
      @invisipunk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      APEX ALERT I was expecting the hairy muscle daddy comment! 😂

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh boi
      - Pascal

    • @burner1303
      @burner1303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The science bear

  • @amit4rou
    @amit4rou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Even in my next incarnation I won't forget this channel

  • @cuongbui9708
    @cuongbui9708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Must be really cold in the Doc’s apartment for him to be wearing a sweater.

  • @GR-uc1gq
    @GR-uc1gq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    A Revive Stronger podcast with Mike Israetel?
    Today is a good day

  • @gracefool
    @gracefool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mike's split:
    (Heavy 5-10 reps, Moderate 10-20 reps, Light 20-30 reps)
    Mon am: Heavy legs
    Mon pm: Heavy push & shoulders
    Tue am: Heavy pull, biceps & grip
    Tue pm: Moderate legs
    Wed am: Moderate push, shoulders & shrug
    Wed pm: Moderate pull, biceps & grip
    Thu am: Moderate legs
    Thu pm: Moderate push (tricep emphasis) & shrug
    Fri am: Moderate pull, biceps & grip
    Fri pm: Light legs
    Sat am: Light push, shoulders & shrug
    Sat pm: Light pull, biceps & grip

  • @Balonishell
    @Balonishell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mike breaking down the lean- traveler question was impressive. He's got the science, but also the experience of an accomplished athlete to reflect upon. Thoughtful and concise.

  • @georgesarreas5509
    @georgesarreas5509 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Here is my personal bit of wisdom: "if Greg and Mike agree on something ,the it is true"

  • @burner1303
    @burner1303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love Dr. Mike's rant about taking the long view. I do research, and I advocate being skeptical of all studies until there have been several meta-studies done on the subject. And even then, it's good to keep a skeptical eye and keep in mind limits in validity, effect size, etc even if the p-values are significant. The replicability crisis in psychology is a cluster fuck that every scientist, or person whose epistemology is based on science, should learn from. Never be a first adopter, never overstate the power of a study; the way to do this is to be patient and admit your own ignorance. Science is a long-term project.

  • @SFSBuster
    @SFSBuster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Pre-exhaustion advice was awesome!

  • @J90JAM
    @J90JAM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was about to post asking about pre-exhaustion for intermediates, but you beat me to it. Good job at asking the questions we need, Steve.
    Tricep pre-exhaustion seems like it works for everybody, as you both alluded to.

  • @Kaymen1980
    @Kaymen1980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hey, this isn't 2 years ago! This is now!

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't get it but I like
      - Pascal

    • @Kaymen1980
      @Kaymen1980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ReviveStronger
      Every time I watch fitness content, it's always 1 to 2 years old.. It caught me off guard that I was being contemporary for once 🤷‍♂️

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kaymen1980 Aaaah, I see!!

  • @sweatygamergainz870
    @sweatygamergainz870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh by the way, I think your podcasts are the best! Not too long, not too short. And the podcast is really about what your guests has to say about the topics.

  • @icejumperke
    @icejumperke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    SQUAAAAAAAAAAD! 🔥
    I was actually kinda worried that there wouldn’t be a podcast today! 😱 I didn’t get the weekly newsletter in my mail, so I sort of lost all hope for a good weekend.. 🤷‍♂️
    But here we are! Thanks you guys!
    PS: actually should’ve known that this was coming, I submitted a question, myself 😂
    Thank you doctor, thank you Steve, thank you Pascal! 🙏 We love you! #nohomo 😘

  • @stevenmuncy491
    @stevenmuncy491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Where do myo-reps fall compared to effective reps, hard sets, RIR? Thanks for another great show.

    • @jurjenbavelaar1558
      @jurjenbavelaar1558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You may find this interesting; borgefagerli.com/myo-reps-in-english/ (If you haven't read it yet)

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably in the same categorie. It's a method that can be used every once in a while
      - Pascal

  • @AdamMc192
    @AdamMc192 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder do an IFBB pros who actually make money from bodybuilding (not coaching which is not the same) actually watch this. Its nice to hear that you can potentially make some extra progress from an amazing gym, but for most, the impact on moving or commuting for a better gym would just have so much more impact on other areas of life that are much more important. Living closer to family, friends, less time in the car and more with your family or more time to work on your hobbies, reading, relaxation, family time. I have an amazing gym about 40 minutes drive, but an average one less than 8 minutes walk, time and time again I try make it to the better one, but I'm always frustrated when I realise I've used an extra 2 hours of my life commuting and I love where I live.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes there are. What about Terrence Ruffins & Jared Feather just to name the ones I'm absolutely certain about :)
      But I totally agree with what you're saying, I think that most overthink what they actually need while in reality, they just need the most fundamental things.
      - Pascal

  • @vein9156
    @vein9156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the triceps pre-exhaustion tip (super chest dominant guy here)

  • @calebduran5349
    @calebduran5349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was fantastic! Thanks Steve! The idea of effective reps is very intriguing

  • @dezukaful
    @dezukaful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    YES STEVE AND MIKE !!!!

  • @juanalvarado2055
    @juanalvarado2055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most informative channels out here on TH-cam about training.
    Honestly you learn more from channels like this one, than from textbooks and other books (personal experience)

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, also easier to listen to! Thanks for watching and Happy New Year!
      - Coach Jess

  • @anthonybyers837
    @anthonybyers837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always great to hear Mike!

  • @MeleDrummer
    @MeleDrummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing! Dr Mike is the GOAT

  • @Mr_DXB-kt5di
    @Mr_DXB-kt5di 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy just cracks me up!

  • @imsorrythankyouplease7613
    @imsorrythankyouplease7613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Around 57:00 Mike talks about using will power to increase NEAT. I find that any calories I burn when I try to move around is offset when I stop focusing on moving. Instead of dancing while I make dinner, I’m leaning on the counter and can barely hold my head up.
    Do I have to focus on staying active 14 hours a day to ensure my NEAT actually increases? How do I fight my body’s natural tendency to slow down in a caloric deficit?

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I try to be aware of the habits I had when I wasn't dieting and try to replicate that style throughout the deficit. For example, intentionally planning in walks, etc.
      - Pascal

    • @imsorrythankyouplease7613
      @imsorrythankyouplease7613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I figured it out. The answer was caffeine.

  • @MeZoRH
    @MeZoRH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mike is growing bigger and bigger

  • @jamesmorrison1166
    @jamesmorrison1166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never heard pre-exhaust explained so well. I have a little bit of a shoulder issue and will try it for chest. This may allow me to get the work done with lower loads on the barbell.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope it works well for you!
      - Pascal

  • @ansich4743
    @ansich4743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've seen it all now.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you think you've seen it all...and then there comes more ;P
      - Pascal

  • @StaleyTraining
    @StaleyTraining 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always great training insights and wisdom from Dr. Mike 💪

  • @hassanmohamed6017
    @hassanmohamed6017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this channel to the death

  • @Euphytos
    @Euphytos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey dude, I've been listening to your podcasts for a time now, thank you for your awesome content. I've a question :
    What is the stability of supplements in water ( whey, creatine, etc.) ? For example, when I'm at school or at work, I often prepare my whey-creatine with water and consume it like 3 hours laters? Is it bad? Should the drink be consumed imediately?
    Thanks

    • @14SoccerLee
      @14SoccerLee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is probably fine, i think you are just overthinking it!

    • @Euphytos
      @Euphytos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      cali23 yeah i don't know thanks for the reply

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where will it go? I don't think it'll evaporate and thus, it should be fine.
      - Pascal

    • @Euphytos
      @Euphytos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Revive Stronger damn Pascal are u serious? It's not about evaporing LMAO Chemicals interact each other and degrade in other chemicals. Whey could interact with water and degrade in something else after a day, so when you drink it you will absorb something different than whey drinked straightaway

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Euphytos what chemicals do you have in your water then? At least in the EU, drinking water has extremely strict guidelines with mineral content. The mineral content is very much what you consume in meals as well. Also, what about prepacked protein shakes?! Seems like they don't get toxic and I doubt that they're using distilled water.

  • @JohnProph
    @JohnProph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    everything old is new again. Since I have been following bodybuilding starting back in like 1982, I have always heard "train to within 1-2 reps of failure" lol. The advice is as old as Methuseluh, but if we call it "effective reps" we can act like something new has been discovered lol

  • @fitnessbusinesscoaching
    @fitnessbusinesscoaching 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic as always! 💪🏼💪🏼

  • @asp6415
    @asp6415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great QnA

  • @alotan2acs
    @alotan2acs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: 16:00. what's wrong with this idea of starting at low RIR with tons of sets, then decreasing sets and working towards failure?

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right! This works perfectly with their idea of training closer to failure being more fatiguing, it makes sense to reduce total workload as you increase effort. Steve says this doesn’t work with progressive overload but I disagree, by the end the number of repetitions it takes you to fail if you used the same load from beginning of meso to end of meso will be far greater than the beginning of the meso. you will be performing an equivalent amount of stimulating reps, the increase in effort over time IS progressive overload so I disagree with both of them on this issue. I’m not sure why but Mike does not discuss the force velocity relationship and how this relates to mechanical tension on muscle fibers which is literally the stimulus that signals muscle growth. Maybe he isn’t aware of this concept or maybe he didn’t think to bring it up at this time. Based on the force velocity relationship I also think that reps greater than 6rir contribute NO growth stimulus to anyone who has been training for a while. Noobs are of course the exception to this

  • @Yon_Jon5715
    @Yon_Jon5715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can somebody link the conversation (5:45) between Chris Beardsley and Mike Israetel on effective reps?

    • @MeleDrummer
      @MeleDrummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to read that too

  • @thomast6823
    @thomast6823 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With regard to the topic on rotating in exercises: I have pretty exclusively done back squats for quads for years. Recently I tried changing to front squats and I lost a lot of strength on my back squats after just two 6 week cycles off. Does anyone have any recommendations? Should I just have kept in a couple of sets not lose so much on the squat or is losing quite a bit if strength on exercises when rotating them out like this normal?

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Front Squats are a poor substitution for back squats. It's probably mostly neurological and technical efficiency. Once you're getting back to BS, it comes back quickly
      - Pascal

    • @johnfurr5698
      @johnfurr5698 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I experienced something similar when I started working on front squats. What I've been doing is front squats Mon and Wen and then heavy back squats again on Friday. My front squats started super weak, but are gradually moving up now. In another month or so I'll probably switch to rotating every other training day...so one week back squats will get 2 day's and front squats 1 and then the following week the opposite.
      I don't consider them a substitute for each other, but I like the advice of being general strong all over.

    • @thomast6823
      @thomast6823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers for the replies. Will definitely consider this in future programming.

  • @Biolo-G_KJ
    @Biolo-G_KJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Revive Stronger I have 1 big question.
    When a programm says 70%. Some say base that on your alltime estimated 1RM (so guessing to the high end). Like I did a 550lbs grinder ugly deadlift months ago. I might be able to do 555lbs now. So for training I will do 70% of 555lbs.
    Or should you say 550lbs from a few months ago was an absolute grinder. I can't do that every few days. What I can do is 520lbs with perfect form every week without a problem. So for training I will do 70% of that.
    Which one should I choose.
    And when people like Mike say hypertrophy comes between 0-6RIR. Is that from 0 total outgoing ugly grinding failure or goodform failure??

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd always strive for perfect form and take this as your baseline
      - Pascal

  • @hofmanntile4817
    @hofmanntile4817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🖒🖒awsome as always

  • @krisgulati8445
    @krisgulati8445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question about RIR during a meso-cycle. Am I right in thinking that this is how it works. Assume a 4 week hypertrophy phase proceeded by one week of a deload.
    The first week, we start out with our MEV, low volume, and 4 RIR. Second week we increase to 3 RIR, and higher volume. Third week, higher volume and 2/1 RIR. Finally last week, highest volume and 1/0 RIR. Along the way we try and increase weight on the bar wherever possible. Then deload and repeat. Not sure if this is the correct way of interpreting Mike's strategy.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We got a podcast coming out (EP176) where things are being explained quite well. But generally, you're not off :)
      - Pascal

    • @krisgulati8445
      @krisgulati8445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReviveStronger Legend Pascal, glad to see I'm on the right track! I guess my concern was that if I'm increasing volume, increasing load, and increasing intensity (lower RIR) it may be too much! Also, if I may add something I've thought about (you don't have to answer this). If I'm working on a mesocycle where I'm aiming for between 6-8 reps. Week 1 with a 4 RIR would mean 2 reps (assuming 6 reps is failure) which seems kind of absurdly low!

  • @user-mw3ug8bo6s
    @user-mw3ug8bo6s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I put my opinion about the most informative fitness channel in the internet?

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Itunes review is always helpful. Other than that, just listening, commenting, being part of the community helps big time :)
      - Pascal

  • @fd-pj3uk
    @fd-pj3uk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can citrullin malat can gives you greater Hypertrophy (maybe a Little Bit ober The natty Limit? Or Just faster?) Because Its Help you to get more Reps and lower The fatique ? Or is ITS Just Like Beta alanine ( you can get more Reps but you must do them, because Its decreased metabalic stress. ITS seems to be that Beta alanin cant increase growth)

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The literature on CM is still very unclear. Some studies support it, some don't
      - Pascal

  • @lukelafontaine9483
    @lukelafontaine9483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question. During a fat burning phase, can the calories from body fat burned contribute to muscle building during a cut? Every once in a while I'll take a break from eating, and then go through a growth spurt. not sure whats happening there.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, it's potential energy that can be used for this.
      - Pascal

  • @fd4099
    @fd4099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Steve,I have a question. I want to try the progression scheme you talk about but I was thinking:
    1) is it ok if my mesocycle is of 4 weeks(not an advanced lifter but an intermediate) , starting from RIR3 to arrive at RIR 1 and 0 on single joint movements, and deload on week 4
    2)Or would be better ,for example, to stay two weeks on RIR 2, so that the accumulation phase is of 4 weeks(deload week 5)?thanks

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both seem like valid options, depending on your total volume and also training experience :)
      - Pascal

  • @jgoldian47
    @jgoldian47 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Mike has definitely changed his opinion on slow eccentrics from then till now lol
    Mainly because the research suggests and has shown that muscles being stretched underload with a slow controlled eccentric provide more muscle growth stimulus than normal reps and sets?

  • @dozermendoza
    @dozermendoza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder for something like DC Training, where they go to failure... if maybe instead, for more trained individuals, we go to RPE 8(2 RIR), then terminate, rest pause, then again, shy of true failure, and do this more times than the regular 2 rest pause(3 times to failure). Instead, do 6 times to 2RIR, or finish at 1RIR or failure on final one. You could do more because of less fatigue accumulation, and maybe even get better results?

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm honestly not versed on DC training, but the suggestion makes sense to me. If you could get more out of more sets with less fatigue and same or more stimulus.. Yup. Thanks for watching!
      - Coach Jess

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you would rather do like 7 sets to get most likely equivalent results to 2-3? Sounds like a lot of wasted time to me

    • @dozermendoza
      @dozermendoza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Creature1009 it's more of a relationship to minimizing fatigue accumulation or minimizing CNS fatigue. Your doing more volume, with around same or less accumulation. This is also due to the RIR curve and how close 2RIR is to stimulation, as going to full mechanical failure. So yes, more volume, less fatigue accumulation. Anyone who has done powerlifting knows CNS fatigue is a real thing.

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dozermendoza okay but hear me out, research on CNS fatigue is new but what we currently have indicates that higher numbers of repetitions are harder to recover from than lower number of repetitions, likely due to the fact that other systems beyond the muscular one are at play and requiring energy as well. At the end of the day I believe the outcome from either scenario will be similar, and this minutiae and this constant fear of overly fatiguing yourself from (checks notes) a couple sets to failure is not as big of a deal as it’s made out to be

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dozermendoza not to mention the body ADAPTS to the stress it endured, so I believe training to failure more frequently will lead to adaptations that negate the initially greater fatigue from going to failure

  • @iliasilias144
    @iliasilias144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it

  • @raphaeld.s.1933
    @raphaeld.s.1933 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Buy this man a shirt

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He doesn't need a shirt. He wears his natural shirt
      - Pascal

  • @samozeleznaterapia3643
    @samozeleznaterapia3643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Effective reps (1 RIR) is the concept numero uno if you do not do big compounds. I believe classic compound exercises will disappear from hypertrophy training altogether. Stimulus to fatigue ratio is really bad along with higher risk of injuries and strains.

    • @vein9156
      @vein9156 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are so many compound lifts for every body part that you can always find one that is not injurious for you and has good stimulus to fatigue ratio, especially for higher reps. For example instead of squats you can do trap bar squats, Jefferson squats, Bulgarian squats, lunges etc.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to disagree with that statement.
      - Pascal

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bodybuilders have no reason to barbell bench squat or deadlift beyond enjoying doing those lifts. There are much better options to grow muscle than these.

  • @highgreenful
    @highgreenful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES!!!

  • @ricardofrias5345
    @ricardofrias5345 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Mike said 4 to 3 RIR was significant, and 3 to 2 was good but 2 to 1 no. Ok so wouldnt 3 reps out of 5RM be best sets in terms of STF. Because 2 RIR (3/5) and only 60% of way to failure (3/5)

  • @Frameorderfanreaction2M2.O
    @Frameorderfanreaction2M2.O 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir, for example 1) 60kg weight 8 reps (RIR 0) volume is 480
    2) 37 kg weight 20 reps (RIR 10)
    Volume 550.
    Even though 2nd case has more volume 1 st case get significantly more gains. So Effective reps is Real.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who trains at RIR 10?
      - Coach Jess

    • @Frameorderfanreaction2M2.O
      @Frameorderfanreaction2M2.O 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReviveStronger I have just told. I am going to tell that Last reps are important.

  • @PerryBattles
    @PerryBattles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hairy muscle daddy 😂!

  • @JohnSmith-dy3ck
    @JohnSmith-dy3ck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does one really know when you’re 4 reps in reserve, or 2 reps from failure, etc.?

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A good measure it once the tempo slows down. Hard on isolation lifts though, but hardly ever is it recommended to go there with isolation anyway
      - Pascal

  • @sweatygamergainz870
    @sweatygamergainz870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I start with myoreps to somewhat fatigue the muscles in some exercises to increase effective reps?

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good thought but I think due to it being highly fatiguing, you'll actually reduce the total workload
      - Pascal

  • @brucemackenzie4952
    @brucemackenzie4952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Volume would make all the difference. 3 sets to near failure as opposed to 8 sets big difference

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching :)
      - Coach Jess

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ostrowski study would disagree. This study took trained individuals and put them on the same program split into 3 sets 6 sets and 12 sets and found no meaningful difference in hypertrophy outcomes between groups, all groups made great gains

  • @callummcausland3904
    @callummcausland3904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I train ever session like it’s peak week

  • @onezerotwofour184
    @onezerotwofour184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So 20 rep sets for dips aren't ideal when I can realistically manage 30.
    Guessing I should add weight then.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It'd be a good idea!
      - Pascal

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ten plus reps in the tank means you’re training like a kitten. Smart training is hard training

    • @onezerotwofour184
      @onezerotwofour184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Creature1009 Yep, the low intensity/high rep (clueless approach) had it's place to build the habit as someone new (at the time) to any intentional muscle building exercise.
      For now once I've completed 12reps x 4 working sets, I increase the weight & lower the reps and have been making progress over the last year doing that.
      I know that's probably still light but 8-12reps/set seems to be a good range for my body to avoid injury and sustainably progress.
      Eventually I want to get into the heavier low rep movements but feel like I'm better off building a bit of a base (might take a year) and getting in a ton of good reps before that.

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onezerotwofour184 that sounds like a really slow way to progress weights. Waiting until you can do 4x12 means those first three sets were not very stimulating at all. I train 1-2 working sets per exercise and I aim to increase weight reps or both, pretty easy way to get strong, simple way to ensure progressive overload, and I’m not calling three sets that weren’t hard at all a work set

    • @onezerotwofour184
      @onezerotwofour184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Creature1009
      Yeah it is definitely slow progression but it is very sustainable for me as someone who has other physical hobbies and there are recovery/performance tradeoffs if I train too heavy.
      If I only lifted I would 100% train closer to what you suggest (btw I don't think I necessarily know what's best, it's just what works with my routine).
      Anyways thanks, and when I have more recovery time I'll strongly consider working with lower rep ranges.
      Edit: fwiw 12x4 is only at the very end.
      most of the time I'm around 8reps/set, and the last movement I added weight to (OHP) I started at 6reps x 4sets (not all 'working sets' I agree).
      The OHP progression so far with new weight was
      6reps x 4sets
      6x3, 7x1
      6x2, 7x2
      6x1, 7x3
      7x4 yesterday
      next will be 7x3, 8x1
      Was still planning on working back up to 12x4, but if that is waiting too long (I'm honestly not sure, 12x4 is a long ways away for me), when would you increase the weight again?

  • @MichaelJohn_Trades
    @MichaelJohn_Trades 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:47😁 enjoy the flex

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was just waiting for that moment
      - Pascal

  • @DJHEV
    @DJHEV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gyms with legit equipment usually are a different environment as well fwiw

  • @michalus09
    @michalus09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Russian Beer is made from Mike's hair, full of protein!

  • @Blackanesenyc
    @Blackanesenyc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dr. Mike BearMode Israetel

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Siberian Bearmode. Next level
      - Pascal

    • @MeleDrummer
      @MeleDrummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's been doing his rack pulls above the D

  • @jewelfewel
    @jewelfewel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to hear Mike's take on deadlifting on pull day vs leg day

    • @osmankalif3500
      @osmankalif3500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me also. My own experience dl on leg day = big time fatigue. Stopped pulling from the ground and my recovery aint interrupted anymore

    • @DragonballG.
      @DragonballG. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I asked him exactly this on an Insta live vid chat. He said deadlift doesn't count to leg volume as a stimulus but it does for fatigue. So if you count it ob leg day it will reduce your effective volume.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the exercise selection roundtable he discusses Deadlifts with Menno. Both aren't fans of it for hypertrophy
      - Pascal

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Allyourheroswenttohell dunno, don't follow him :)
      I'm not a big fan of deadlifts for hypertrophy either :)

  • @cseszkacseszka1523
    @cseszkacseszka1523 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, about the equipment/exercise variation part: this is actual thing for me. In the next half year I wont have access to any gym, just a dumbbells set (with lot of weight). Okay I can train upper body well (rows/bench/overhead etc...) but what about leg? Is there any way to train legs effectively with dumbbells? Or it will be a disaster ? I know its absolutly not an optimal scenario for strength but can I achieve hypertrophy with dumbbells for legs?

    • @Brennaneggers
      @Brennaneggers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cseszka Cseszka you can do dumbbell Hamstring Curls by laying face down and holding the dumbbell between your feet. Weighted lunges, goblet squats, RDL, sissy squats, Bulgarian split squat

    • @di555
      @di555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi, I know your not asking me but I think Bulgarian split squats are a fantastic option with dumbbells. There is some research out there stating Bulgarian split squats are as effective as squats themselves. For the posterior chain Romanian deadlifts with the dumbbells are a great option. Other single leg work such as dumbbell step ups, reverse lunges may also be worth considering and trying out.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lots of things you can do! The guys covered it nicely :)
      - Pascal

  • @grizzlymanverneteil4443
    @grizzlymanverneteil4443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mike, i love you. Also, the same trimmer you use on you're face will work on your back and shoulders.

    • @nllc9779
      @nllc9779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strong words from the guy named grizzlyman

    • @grizzlymanverneteil4443
      @grizzlymanverneteil4443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you dont like grizzly longcut winter green, then we're about to have words.

    • @burner1303
      @burner1303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IDK what you're talking about, Dr. Mike's sweater looks great

    • @grizzlymanverneteil4443
      @grizzlymanverneteil4443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      tru

  • @The10Daniel10
    @The10Daniel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ohhh we eatin todayyyy

    • @The10Daniel10
      @The10Daniel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s like...I’m playing the episode on 1.75 speed to save time. But on the contrary I want more to listen to lol

    • @segason6
      @segason6 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Bazak you trynna eee?!?!?

    • @The10Daniel10
      @The10Daniel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      segason6 what?

    • @segason6
      @segason6 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Bazak nvm. Just a bs phrase

    • @The10Daniel10
      @The10Daniel10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      segason6 damn I ruined the joke didn’t I...

  • @copernicus99
    @copernicus99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why is Mike wearing a sweater?

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably quite hot in Philly atm.
      - Pascal

  • @robertwilliams8887
    @robertwilliams8887 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding effective reps, I'm a bit upset that Mike only talked about comparing 4RIR to 0-1 RIR for sets where presumably complete rest is taking place, thereby increasing effective reps on the back end by pushing closer to failure and DID NOT discuss increasing effective reps on the front end by using a shorter rest interval and beginning each set in a semifatigued state. I'm assuming this is because he thinks resting too little would cause a reduction in total volume, but only if you track volume in terms of sets rather than total reps. If you took a cross fit style approach and said, "using a 10RM load, complete 50 reps in as little time as possible, taking each mini set to RPE8-9" I think this is the best approach. Then just increase your total rep target throughout the accumulation block...

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think it's a sustainable nor good approach when hypertrophy is the goal. Sure, in a metabolite block it may be feasible but overall for the specificity of max muscular development, I have my doubts.
      - Pascal

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The research has been quite clear; 3+ minute rest periods see the greatest gains in both strength and muscle size, with shorter rest being inferior by a marginal amount, like pascal said, beneficial for metabolite accumulation but probably not for growth

  • @azulsimmons1040
    @azulsimmons1040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mike needs a throne, an axe, some roasted carcass, and a flagon of strong ale. He looks like he just returned home from a day of raiding and pillaging.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who says that he doesn't own these things already? ;)
      - Pascal

  • @Creature1009
    @Creature1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 15:00 Mike says you will grow a lot of muscle doing 10 sets at 5rir. I think this would be true for beginners but for trained individuals I don’t think this is the case. This sounds like a DELOAD workout and I can’t fathom how this could create a hypertrophy response in a trained individual, and this is just a hypothesis of Mike’s, certainly you could argue the research proves this in the case of untrained individuals, but I believe it’s silly to imply someone who has made good hypertrophic adaptations could benefit from something this easy. Mechanical tension grows muscles and from what we currently understand about how this works is with the force-velocity relationship you must accumulate repetitions where some degree of bar speed is lost from the beginning of the set due to fatigue, which I do not believe can happen at 5rir

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not too sure exactly for who he meant that, but agreeing with you!
      - Coach Jess

    • @KurokamiNajimi
      @KurokamiNajimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you mean 10 weekly sets definitely not. If you mean 10 in one session with 20 total then I’d say it’s not optimal but should be somewhat effective. I think the best route is starting a workout with the max effort method on a compound so you get in the most effective reps and then go into your volume work. Next session I’d say start with lower intensity still with the conjugate principle of rotating variations. Otherwise doing this is just gonna get you snapped up
      Example
      Session 1
      -Max out swiss bar bench (not getting too close to 100% max should be more like RPE 9.5)
      -3x10 flat bench
      -3x10 incline dumbbell press
      Session 2
      -3x5 floor press
      -3x10 close grip bench
      -3x10 dumbbell bench
      Most advanced lifters you’ll notice use 4 variations of a lift by default, conjugate just takes it to the next step with a bit more variation to further decrease injury risk and build more muscle from doing new lifts you suck at. If you’re worried about losing specificity on the volume work you just adjust it to fit those needs
      -3x5 floor press
      -3x10 close grip floor press
      -3x10 dumbbell floor press

  • @catedoge3206
    @catedoge3206 ปีที่แล้ว

    yuh

  • @JohnProph
    @JohnProph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeff Nippard references this show th-cam.com/video/xiJKa41Fsxo/w-d-xo.html

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ouw, amazing. Thanks for sharing :)
      - Pascal

  • @laloromero3970
    @laloromero3970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he say Olympic lifting shoes, belt, and straps for $100? Lol

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds close. Good oly lifting shoes don't have to be expensive, same with straps, that just leaves the belt.

    • @ReviveStronger
      @ReviveStronger  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think everything needs to be taken by exact words. Stylistic devices ;)
      - Pascal

  • @bigmarv333
    @bigmarv333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time Stamp 41:00-
    Mike explains that if you give excuses for everyone who rotates exercises every week and all you do is complain. You will be the smallest angriest fuck on the internet. Lol

  • @TrainAesthetics
    @TrainAesthetics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mike is actually half gorilla

  • @blowfold1
    @blowfold1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy sure knows how to overcomplicate things. Bodybuilding is easy. Too many people on social media now over complicate things. For Eg RIR! Come on man! Train with intensity, diet on point and rest.

    • @ProphetFear
      @ProphetFear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well he squats 500x10 lbs and OHP 125x10 kg. For a regular who doesn't lift really heavy, maybe such cookie-cutter advice is sufficient.

    • @vein9156
      @vein9156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is for people who love bodybuilding/theory want to be the best even if it means only 5% better results. I don't use RIR either though.

    • @Braw92
      @Braw92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      These are really basic concepts that can help structure your training, if not just an addition of knowledge and perspective for the interested. This is not graduate level physics. Training in general is indeed simple, but if you're a professional or simply an enthusiast it would be in your interest to consume as much information as possible.

    • @PerryBattles
      @PerryBattles 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bloatlord Your username made my day 😂

    • @ProphetFear
      @ProphetFear 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Allyourheroswenttohell Greg Nuckols said in his second to last podcast he is not convinced of overreaching for the sake of hypertrophy goals. If you are a regular lifter, pushing the MAV to the limit very well may be as far as you need.