Correct..stoner was the one and only fully tamed the unrideable original ducati.. the ego of ducati is so high, when rossi came and changed the bike, the never give, but they give rossi input to dovi, when rossi out to yamaha. and lorenzo come, also want change, again ducati not giving it until lorenzo sign contract to Honda, and then suddenly the bike lorenzo wants coming, and he also became superior and now dovi wants to go, i bet dovi's input will be given when he left next year..lol.. same old ducati, too much ego..never admitted rider input..
Oh yes one more..if you ever see the documentary...sickness is not the only reason stoner left...he left also because he sick of motogp future..motogp is no longer about the rider..its not rider controls the bike, but bike controls rider...so for him, motogp is end..he also admitted if motogp back to setup when riders more involved controls the bike, the only riders competent to ride are him and rossi..
@@christeckstein7952 I stopped watching when the Freddy Spencer / Kenny Roberts era of 500cc two stroke race bikes ended. Rossi brought me back in the mid 2000's but I'm pretty much done with it. The Isle of Mann is on my bucket list though. One very small thing Ducati should thank Stoner for is I was always a Suzuki rider but Stoner moved me over to Ducati and I've been there ever since. My age (and back) keeps me off their sport models but I'm a firmly in the Diavel camp now. Almost 70 but still putting in 10k a year on my Ducati.
@@Zimmermann310 that's stupid and nosense both are great and if you don't like one of them you don't need to throw rubbish to him. Marquez is a god of motorcycling he is so complete in every aspect like Rossi was, but Marc rise his level when he become a specialist also in the starting of the races and Rossi doing pole was always weak but a master in the race and Marquez master in both with indeed his agressive relentless pace. Stoner was so complete I would less agressive and not that good for the come backs but the three at the same level of legendary riders of all time
only one to shut down rossi's incessant dive bombing tactics, only one to tame ducati, only one to dramatically improve every bike he rode. My only regrets with stoner is he didnt stay longer and his fall at the suzuka 8 hour really wanted to see him do well there.
I'm a fan of both riders but Rossi clearly don't "dive bomb" all the time. You are what is wrong is the sport. You hate one rider and praise another to no end.
Yeah for sure this legend along another legend like Marquez nowadays should be the perfect period of motorcycling what a pity he didn't came back again to Ducati
Hard to warm to him, but who else could get the Ducati where he put it? Not Rossi, not Capirossi.... Not Hayden.... Only Stoner. Strange guy, but on a.motorcycle he was just a phenomenon. Two world titles and many, many amazing races on a time of legends.
It's actually hard to blame Rossi or Dovizioso for the early '10s when Livio Suppo followed Stoner to Honda, and Ducati started with a shitty project on their own...
@@AksenowtCc I thought when the VW/Audi money came in the tables would turn... But it has not been so. I wasn't "blaming" any of the very, very good riders who have sat on a GP Ducati since they returned to this series and not won a title... I am just saying that only Stoner managed it. I dream of seeing an Italian take the title on an Italian bike....
ok, yep, in slow mo you can see he initiated a full throttle drift and counter steered to control it. or at least that is how it seems to me. I can't do that. if the announcers would just hush you could hear the engine better.
And not even his best example. Turn 3 at Phillip Island is where he puts on a masterclass. It's as if his right wrist doesn't give a shit if he lives or dies.
Sockerfader proper sick...skill. I tried it on many track days to the expense of my SPS/ZX1 and blade. Even the tech the guys fitted said it’s impossible. Even better tech apparently lost its shit when the Ducati team fitted it to Stoners bike. It came back as an ‘impossible manoeuvre .’
Well i didnt see a front wheel tuck at all. I saw his front wheel start to slide and the angle it pushed out caused by the counter steering forces which was spectacular to see nonetheless 👍💪
Freeze at 15 seconds and look at the front wheel. He's leaned over turning left and has the handlebars and front wheel turned fully right. That is not normal on a motorcycle!
Hồng Thái Nguyễn A front wheel tuck is where the front tyre loses grip in a corner and the bike falls onto its side. It normally results in an immediate crash, unless you are someone like Marc Marquez and can hold the bike up on your knee and elbow.
defan achmad Stoner could ride an imperfect bike, but he couldn’t make it perfect, since nobody could drive it well until recent years, after it was revolutionized. Rossi went from Honda to Yamaha and made it a good bike. They are both two great champions, with different styles
@@delilahm9692 maybe I can agree with your perspective about Stoner... But not for Rossi. I know he is a really great rider but in the other side, he always get the good bike. Honda rc211v was really superior in that era and of course Rossi can win easily with it. when he move, yamaha's bike is already fast and they just need a good rider to ride it. Then, he got 4 more world title. However in ducati, Rossi can't made the bike good, even worse. Proof that Rossi need a perfect bike to win
@@dachmad7495 "Yamaha's bike is already fast" Yamaha was the slowest bike on the grid when Rossi went from Honda to Yamaha 😂😂 don't talk if you don't know what you are talkin about
Casey Stoner : The first and probably the only one that fully tamed a Ducati ever. Too bad he had to retire early due to sickness.
Correct..stoner was the one and only fully tamed the unrideable original ducati..
the ego of ducati is so high,
when rossi came and changed the bike, the never give, but they give rossi input to dovi, when rossi out to yamaha.
and lorenzo come, also want change, again ducati not giving it until lorenzo sign contract to Honda, and then suddenly the bike lorenzo wants coming, and he also became superior
and now dovi wants to go, i bet dovi's input will be given when he left next year..lol..
same old ducati, too much ego..never admitted rider input..
Oh yes one more..if you ever see the documentary...sickness is not the only reason stoner left...he left also because he sick of motogp future..motogp is no longer about the rider..its not rider controls the bike, but bike controls rider...so for him, motogp is end..he also admitted if motogp back to setup when riders more involved controls the bike, the only riders competent to ride are him and rossi..
@@christeckstein7952 I stopped watching when the Freddy Spencer / Kenny Roberts era of 500cc two stroke race bikes ended. Rossi brought me back in the mid 2000's but I'm pretty much done with it. The Isle of Mann is on my bucket list though. One very small thing Ducati should thank Stoner for is I was always a Suzuki rider but Stoner moved me over to Ducati and I've been there ever since. My age (and back) keeps me off their sport models but I'm a firmly in the Diavel camp now. Almost 70 but still putting in 10k a year on my Ducati.
It was more he didn’t like talking to the press than sickness
@@christeckstein7952 gotta love those Italians
put on .25 speed from 0:14. woah..
They sound like Walter White Jr.!!!
Don't thank him later, thank him now. Thank you
Props to Julian for picking that up 👏🏾👏🏾 was so subtle
motorcycle drift. would had loved to see him vs Marquez
Stoner would have no chance. Not because he is not that good than Marquez, but Stoner is fair and for Marquez is fairness a loanword.
Georg Dieter BS
@@Zimmermann310 that's stupid and nosense both are great and if you don't like one of them you don't need to throw rubbish to him. Marquez is a god of motorcycling he is so complete in every aspect like Rossi was, but Marc rise his level when he become a specialist also in the starting of the races and Rossi doing pole was always weak but a master in the race and Marquez master in both with indeed his agressive relentless pace. Stoner was so complete I would less agressive and not that good for the come backs but the three at the same level of legendary riders of all time
@@Zimmermann310 ak fuck away off you wanker
@@jorgefernandez8728 For me he is an unfair prick and the time he get it back will come soon or later.
Great little guy, thanks for the memories Casey, the only Ducati rider!
only one to shut down rossi's incessant dive bombing tactics, only one to tame ducati, only one to dramatically improve every bike he rode. My only regrets with stoner is he didnt stay longer and his fall at the suzuka 8 hour really wanted to see him do well there.
I'm a fan of both riders but Rossi clearly don't "dive bomb" all the time. You are what is wrong is the sport. You hate one rider and praise another to no end.
The Eurosport MotoGP commentary team Toby, Julian & Randy were the best.
absolutely. but in this case there are Julian and Jack Burnicle, a superbike commentator
What the hell was that a counter steer in full lean without loosing the front end that's crazy
And that desmo sounds amazing
Yeah for sure this legend along another legend like Marquez nowadays should be the perfect period of motorcycling what a pity he didn't came back again to Ducati
Next level rider.
For my money, none better.
Pause at 0:15
Hard to warm to him, but who else could get the Ducati where he put it?
Not Rossi, not Capirossi.... Not Hayden.... Only Stoner.
Strange guy, but on a.motorcycle he was just a phenomenon. Two world titles and many, many amazing races on a time of legends.
Well said. Very true.
He was tremendously talented and went out at the peak, which is a great way to do it.
It's actually hard to blame Rossi or Dovizioso for the early '10s when Livio Suppo followed Stoner to Honda, and Ducati started with a shitty project on their own...
@@AksenowtCc I thought when the VW/Audi money came in the tables would turn... But it has not been so. I wasn't "blaming" any of the very, very good riders who have sat on a GP Ducati since they returned to this series and not won a title... I am just saying that only Stoner managed it. I dream of seeing an Italian take the title on an Italian bike....
@@BanjoLuke1 yeah I thought it too, but in very italian style, all the money didn't bring any good update
The beast has been tamed by the Master.
Casey
We missed you
I miss watching him race...I don't miss his bitching, though.
The title had me think this had something to do with Lance Armstrong at first
The only one who can control full blown Ducati. Legend.
ok, yep, in slow mo you can see he initiated a full throttle drift and counter steered to control it. or at least that is how it seems to me. I can't do that. if the announcers would just hush you could hear the engine better.
Man, he really rides the edge and I respect that because I know what it takes to find it 😜😋🤣
That is called countersteering, not tuck. Tuck is when it slides out from under you. Marquez has several clips of him saving a front wheel tuck.
Exactly. Dirt track style
And not even his best example. Turn 3 at Phillip Island is where he puts on a masterclass. It's as if his right wrist doesn't give a shit if he lives or dies.
That sounds good however that was huge save😲
but to an insane degree given his speed, everyone automatically counter steers on two wheels
I wish we could have had Marquez vs Stoner at Repsol Honda
no disrespect to pedrosa
Damn EuroSport Tv channel, i hope they still exist lol
Eurosport is still a very big entity. I don't know why you presume that they are defunct :))
Front wheel drift😳
Turn right to go left
Full lean counter steer.
sick
Sockerfader proper sick...skill. I tried it on many track days to the expense of my SPS/ZX1 and blade. Even the tech the guys fitted said it’s impossible. Even better tech apparently lost its shit when the Ducati team fitted it to Stoners bike. It came back as an ‘impossible manoeuvre .’
Well i didnt see a front wheel tuck at all. I saw his front wheel start to slide and the angle it pushed out caused by the counter steering forces which was spectacular to see nonetheless 👍💪
Amazing!
What was that ?
playing with death every ms
just realize winglet already use in ducati in last stoner era
How dirty does that desmo sound tho😍
Awesome sound.
OMG
I we going to get a replay of that ?
That was on full right lock.
Ok
Got after second watch.
He's good
Better than marquez
Fuck he was good......
fenomeno stoner alieno!!!
ciao, sai che guardando ora cosa faceva questo alieno, e confrontando lo stile di Dovi (con il dovuto rispetto) appare sempre meglio l'alieno?
@@vincenzorusso2492 infatti stoner il titolo l'ha portato a casa. è triste da dire ma il campionato lo vince solo un pilota all'anno
I used to feel I’ll just looking at Casey stoner. Poor guy had a mystery disease
CFS - Chronic Fatigue Syndrome... There’s no wonder the guy had to quit.
What's the mystery?
What happened ?
Freeze at 15 seconds and look at the front wheel. He's leaned over turning left and has the handlebars and front wheel turned fully right. That is not normal on a motorcycle!
@@paulaus second to what?
@@Masambyar818 what?
@@paulaus what happened to stoner? And how many minutes in video
NamakuTole itu detik 15 stang nya ke kanan, motornya belok kiri
I see nothing.
Amazing, But that was a drift, not a front wheel tuck.
What is a front wheel tuck may I ask?
Hồng Thái Nguyễn A front wheel tuck is where the front tyre loses grip in a corner and the bike falls onto its side. It normally results in an immediate crash, unless you are someone like Marc Marquez and can hold the bike up on your knee and elbow.
Stoner makes imperfect bike looks perfect... Rossi need a perfect bike to win. No doubt!
(Just wanna show how great his skill is)
defan achmad Stoner could ride an imperfect bike, but he couldn’t make it perfect, since nobody could drive it well until recent years, after it was revolutionized. Rossi went from Honda to Yamaha and made it a good bike. They are both two great champions, with different styles
@@delilahm9692 maybe I can agree with your perspective about Stoner... But not for Rossi. I know he is a really great rider but in the other side, he always get the good bike. Honda rc211v was really superior in that era and of course Rossi can win easily with it. when he move, yamaha's bike is already fast and they just need a good rider to ride it. Then, he got 4 more world title. However in ducati, Rossi can't made the bike good, even worse. Proof that Rossi need a perfect bike to win
@@dachmad7495 Does it make you feel better to talk shit about Rossi, when no one will ever give a shit about you?
Yes, rossi doesn't make the bike perfect. He only make 9 World title.
@@dachmad7495 "Yamaha's bike is already fast" Yamaha was the slowest bike on the grid when Rossi went from Honda to Yamaha 😂😂 don't talk if you don't know what you are talkin about
True LEGEND!!!