Songs that Changed Music: The Police - Message in a Bottle
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Returning to the studio only three months after their debut album’s release, The Police set to work on their second album tightly insync with one another musically. Drummer Steward Copeland explained that recording the second album was a completely different experience than the first: “This time the material wasn't rehearsed but the band was. We knew each other's styles because we'd been playing together constantly for eight months, which we hadn't been doing when we recorded the first album. Reggatta took us three weeks to record. We just went into the studio and said 'right, who's got the first song?”
“Message in a Bottle” was one of the songs presented by Sting, although the song’s captivating guitar riff was not entirely new to the band. They had heard him playing around with it with a different melody while on tour. Guitarist Andy Summers explained in 1981: “Sting had that riff for a while, but there was another tune with it originally. He'd been fiddling about with it during our first American tour. Finally, he rearranged the riff slightly and came up with the song.” After only a week in the studio, the Police premiered the song at a concert at Hatfield Polytechnic for the BBC’s “Rock Goes to College.”
The song’s hypnotic guitar riff kicks off the track with a captivating chord progression that repeatedly denies the harmonic resolution our ears expect it to provide. The constant sonic rejection parallels the longing in the lyrics, and fits nicely with the picture Sting painted of his dejected dog and the song's origins in his book Lyrics:
“I used to play it over and over again to my dog in our basement flat in Bayswater...and he would stare at me with that look of hopeless resignation dogs can have when they're waiting for their walk in the park. Was it that hopeless look that provoked the idea of the island castaway and his bottle? I don't know, but the song sounded like a hit the first time we played it. The dog finally got his walk, and this song was our first number-one in the UK."
The song’s lyrics, however, move beyond this image of the hopeless longing of an island castaway and paint a narrative arch in which the protagonist’s desperate gesture of the message in a bottle results in the unexpected solidarity of “hundred billion bottles” of similarly lonely individuals “washed up on the shore.” The story’s philosophical resolution is as unexpected as the underlying harmonic progression of the song’s guitar riff - never taking us exactly where we expect it to go, but by the time we get there, it feels just right.
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Which songs do you feel changed music forever?
Depends on who you are and what you like.
@@dennisofficial4733 yeah !! 👍
Hound Dog--Elvis Presley, Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On--Jerry Lee Lewis, (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction--Rolling Stones, Like a Rolling Stone--Bob Dylan, I Feel Fine--Beatles, Paint it Black--Rolling Stones, Good Vibrations--Beach Boys, Purple Haze--Jimi Hendrix Experience, What's Going On--Marvin Gaye, Papa Was a Rolling Stone--Temptations, Baba O'Riley--The Who, Killer Queen--Queen, I Shot the Sheriff--Bob Marley, Love to Love You Baby--Donna Summer, Anarchy in the UK--Sex Pistols, How Soon Is Now--Smiths, Rapture--Blondie, Da Ya Think I'm Sexy--Rod Stewart, Miss You--Rolling Stones, Sheena Is a Punk Rocker--Ramones
Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath ?
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The Police and The Cure are two bands where you hear their first album and you go “Oh hey this is nice.”
And then you hear their second albums and it blows you away.
40+ years on and I'm still amazed at the drive and propulsion Stewart's drumming added to The Police
Me too Jim!! Thanks ever so much
One of the best rock drummers period
@@honuman39 agreed! Amazing
To me, 'Message in a Bottle' and Stewart Copeland's display of his unique drumming talent here, comprises his finest moment with The Police. The totally-out-there, unique syncopation may make it one of the finest displays of drumming in any popular rock song, period. In 40 years I've never gotten tired of hearing it, and it's still my favorite song out of the band's entire catalogue.
Hogwash. Stewart simply copied reggae grooves and brought it to rock.
Regatta de Blanc was a killer album period. Still a favorite of mine.
Agreed! Masterpiece!
Best Police album by miles
Still have an original on vinyl!
Every Police album is amazing, and unique in its own way.
I remember hearing the Police for the first time, when i was around 12-13, and just being blown away by it. Songs like Message in a Bottle, So Lonely and Roxanne to this day remain some of my favorite songs.
Hearing Stewart Copeland always gets me stoked on drums. What a band!!
YES!! Stewart is incredible!! Thanks ever so much
Everything in this song sounds amazing. As a guitar player, I love the main guitar riff. But the drums are like... DAMN!! So freaking awesome!!
Agreed! All incredible!!!
When Neil Peart loves your playing, you're mighty indeed! Stewart!
Absolutely!
@Luke that’s amazing to hear and makes perfect sense!!
Yes he recognized it. I wished always Stewarts played Rush song New world Man
Circa 1980, we music-loving teens would debate who was better between Neil and Stewart. I argued that there was no need to declare a "victor" --
they were so different, comparisons didn't mean much. But I _preferred_ Stewart. 😊
@phunkyCW Yes indeed, all the Signals album is cleary influenced by The Police & new wave style. Definitely, Copeland is one of the most influential drummers in music history. And Neil is in the same level for rock music, no doubt. No need to compare. Of course there is many many important drummers and tastes for all, but both + Bonham were my 3 personal main influences playing drums. You can find out there in the net hundreds of young drummers considering this 3 legends are not enough good, just because they value present drummers who got speed and success in bands (for instants Im thinking in Dave Grohl, who is totally overrated in my opinion). Greetings from Madrid!
Warren, your song breakdowns are like no other. Just enough detail, historical context and whimsy to make the presentation really compelling to watch. Your style is second to none and refreshing. Keep up the great work.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
He is the best. A talented musician with good taste in music. A rare thing
Copeland’s isolated drums are mesmerizing 🥁
Agreed! Amazing
"I'm not in love" - 10CC. One of my favorite bands. They were very innovative and influential in the 70's, but are rarely talked about today.
Life is a minestrone, death is a cold lasagne
That song has very nice pads, great ambience. Would love to see it deconstructed.
I ran away from 10CC years ago.
Hortera!
There's a good documentary on the recording of "I'm Not In Love". The way they did those thickly layered/looped vocals was a real labor of love.
Stewart Copeland's drums were so neat & tight whilst being so creative! It was definitely a complete change for that time!
Thanks ever so much Bruno! Yes, an amazing talent!
He was on another level.
Totaly Pete & there are clearly two distinctive eras on the sound and playability of the drums: the pre-Copeland and the post-Copeland! After him, drummers started to become tighter on every song sections! 🙌
He's a massive influence on my own drumming; 'Zenyatta Mondatta' was one of the albums I'd first started to play the drums to, and I've always loved how he tuned his set much higher than others so it'd cut through the mix :-)
@nimrodian it is true, of course, you had all the amazing drummers from r&b, funk, dance and jazz fusion but, I'd say Copeland marked a very distinctive sound produced and technique within popular music at that time. Very innovative
The greatest 3 piece band that walked the earth..I rest my case!!
Pretty amazing band indeed!!
Three geniuses, incredible songs, musicianship, played with a quite raw sound.
Thanks ever so much
Spirits in the material world, wrapped around your finger,king of pain 🌟🌟🌟
Masterpieces
just found this now... I am wondering how someone could have given a thumbs down for this... I found it entirely entertaining and The Police... what's not to like? Great work!!
Thanks ever so much Andrew!!
The police, I just love those guys, they're magnificent, brilliant and fantastic!! Their music just sounds really good!! Now at 54 I'm still listening to their music and I don't get tired of it, as new music comes in today the old music keeps getting better every day, I just don't get why old music sounds so good than today's generation of music.
Agreed! Truly wonderful band!!
It's hard to remember how revolutionary these songs were at the time, but I remember wondering how they could be punk when their musicianship was so obvious especially Stewart's drumming. I'm a drummer and it was a challenge to figure out exactly what he was doing. Thanks for doing these videos!
These videos are literally beautiful in every sense...
Wow! Thank you ever so much Bani!
Not only changed music, The Police made me pick up the guitar when I was only 8. Grateful for life to the band and this song. Great video Warren!
That's wonderful Federico!
Another outstanding choice, this series just keeps getting better and better, many thanks Warren 👍🏼
Thanks ever so much Andrew!!
i agree!!
@@darriangerard thanks ever so much!!
Do I win a price? Either for guessing this video was the next one, OR (probably not) Warren listened to my suggestion?
: )
@@cornerliston haha it was always on my list! More to come!! Stay tuned!
Great video Warren.
I had the good fortune to meet Andy Summers after a gig in Cambridge UK with John Etheridge in '94. where andy happily chatted and signed my guitar too.
I did ask the question, "Will their ever be a reunion", to which he said.. "Never say Never".
Thanks for bringing back the memory.
All the best
Jay
That's amazing! Firstly meeting Andy! And secondly you went to see John Etheridge! I'm a huge fan!
@@Producelikeapro yeah wonderful intimate gig, kind of jazz bar feel. Invisible threads tour.
One of their best. It really didn't take six months to record. They went in the studio when they had time and more importantly money.
Super revelatory analysis thanks 👍, I had always thought it was Summers that came up with the stacked fifths of the guitar hook
Sting deserves all the songwriting plaudits he's ever received (& there are many)... so gifted. Synchronicity II is another example, but his solo material is full of amazing music too... Desert Rose, All this time, Fields of Gold... its a long list. So glad I got to see the police 12 or 13 years ago!
Agreed 100%! Thanks ever so much
That Copeland drum sound is still unrivaled. Sting’s bass lines on the album still resonate today. Regatta is Police best album and one of the 100 greatest of british rock.
Outlandos D'Amour has to be one of the best debut albums of all time. I still love it as much today as when I first heard it in 1984, despite it being released in 1978. That's how brilliant it is.
It’s a masterpiece for sure
Up there with with the very best
I have a friend, named Oz Middleton, that does a most killer rendition of this song. This is one of those pieces that I can listen to for weeks on end. I'll never get tired of it. If only I could write something that makes me feel that way. Oh well. No time like right now.
Do it, Bobby - the world could use another great song!
Get writing Bobby my friend!!
@@petesawchuk agreed!
Too late Sting already wrote that song ‘No Time This Time’
End of 70's and early 80's so much of what was UK pop/rock was influenced by Reggae music. The punk/new wave sounds of the Clash, the police, Elvis Costello, culture club etc and of course the 2nd wave of Ska and the broader British working class take on Jamaican music e.g Madness, UB40. The British pallet was now sensitized to Reggae bands, due to the Police and others making it mainstream, which opened the way for home grown Reggae, dub and lovers rock bands like; Steel Pulse, Aswad, Misty in roots, Black slate ... the list goes on!
And as you say, not to forget the influence that Bob Marley had on all of the above.
Thanks Warren for another excellent video!
You and Rick Beato do excellent work. Would love to hear you do Rudie can't fail or something by the specials like ghost town?
Yes great song ideas! Rick Rules! Thanks for the great compliment! I'm truly humbled!
Yes or something from The Jam
Exactly my thoughts. I wanna you guys to know deep in the portuguese countryside this guy is enjoying your work (both you and Rick Beaton).
Such a wonderful little film. Filled with interesting facts, great quotes and inspiration. As a bassist, Stewart Copeland is on my top three list of drummers I want to jam with.
I hear you and agree 100% Björn!
My Google Algorithm found this video and put it in my feed and I'll be forever grateful. I'm a lifelong fan of The Police and I live for background info + technical analysis of what makes them great.
This video is a real treat and I look forward to exploring other rest of your channel now!
Wow! Thanks ever so much John! That's very kind of you! Go Google!
love the video edits and graphics.. thanks for keeping it short n awesome!!!
Thanks ever so much Brian!
That Baxendale pick guard is 😍😍😍😍
Thanks! Yes, I love Scott's guitars!!
Oh, is that the brand? Baxendale? :-)
Stuart Copeland's drum parts.... exceptionally breath-taking. Why do I always forget him, then? My brain needs reprogramming! And really dig the John Peel session version.
HI Tony, for me Stewart is my favourite drummer along with Bonham and of course Roger Taylor!
Hey Warren - OMG, you are in my wheelhouse here. I was 18 when this came out!
A few observations:
1 - I've always played that guitar riff as you did [and as Mr. Summers does now]. Back in the day, it felt great to see some "jazz chord shapes" make their way from what I was studying into a current hit song.
2 - I can't believe I never went in for a deep enough dive to hear that harmony part shadowing the riff. Thank you!
3 - re. Sting: That verse 2 vocal/bass breakdown was amazing. What a vocal [and certainly easier to hear he was playing fretless bass]!
4 - re. Andy Summers - brilliant & underrated. If you haven't read it, I very highly recommend his autobiography, ONE TRAIN LATER; it was [and likely still is] quite a journey for him.
5 - re. Stewart Copeland - my God, did he find the perfect part to play on track after track; such complexity & simplicity side by side. Cool hi-hat for days & days, well earning his independent hi-hat credit on DON'T GIVE UP from Peter Gabriel's SO!
Time for a rewatch; thank you for choosing yet another immortal slice of music.
Thanks ever so much Pete for your great comment!
This was my first influence as a young Artist, I also purchased imported Ska, from the UK, exposed to Calypso, Reggae at a very early age with cultural events.Excellent to see the audio files, this truly is of intrigue.
man i love me a three piece .....great job
Thanks ever so much Kip!
I like this series!
Thank you so much Warren. This song DID change my life also. It was instant love and the reason why I became a drummer.
Just a little observation: the drums part you showed as different was not a different arrangement, but the way Copeland played it live (of course, it evolved through the years). The studio version is in fact the sum of different overdubs.
Love the series! Thanks so much!
I knew someone would've pointed out the drum overdubs already before me! ;-)
@Frank Lee agreed. A different studio version to live is a new arrangement!
@Frank Lee - Oh yes, the single edit of 'Message...' definitely has several bits missing! I prefer the 'proper' album version, just like any other one; It's the radio/TV stations' problem if they don't have time to play the whole song, not mine! ;-)
A lot of people tend to take sides in the Police but really it was all three of them together. Sting's writing and bass, Copeland's amazing drums, and Summers guitar, Summers deserves more attention then he gets. I could not imagine the band without all three of them.
Amazing combination of players!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank YOU Mark!
Am a big Police fan 👍👍👍
Me too Gareth!
The energy The Police generated in their songwriting and music was incredible. The drums always on the front foot, always pushing the feel.. :)
Agreed! Huge Stewart Copeland fan!
That MCI board is gorgeous.
Yes! Indeed
The Police -- in my top 3 for my favorite ever bands. I will never get sick of listening to their music -- to this day it still sounds fresh,...well,...at least to my old ears.
Agreed! Thanks Billy!!
Fantastic video Warren! I was in high school between 1984 - 1988, discovered the Police and worked my way back through their catalog with passion. There was magic in their music - it woke up my head - and my own journey as a budding singer /songwriter /guitarist would never be the same. Thanks especially for tackling "Message in a Bottle" with such insight and care!
Awesome! :-) They've been a massive influence on me as a musician, too! :-)
As a bassist I try to capture/emulate the original tones when I'm giggin with my cover band. However, that catalog of tones has been great to pull from when I'm recording either myself or other artists especially when someone wants "this new sound with an 'old' feel". Other than making me feel old I appreciate their desire. Once again, great video.
Thanks ever so much Steve for sharing!!
Another great video! You keep me guessing on where you will go with the next video.
Thanks ever so much!!
The editing is soooo good! I really enjoyed this!
Thank you so much!!
what a brilliant video. Man I can hear the collective expansion of young peoples minds as they watch.
Thanks ever so much Peter!
What a drummer...
What a drummer...
There was this small club next to our Uni called Edgertons. I went to almost every live event they had there. I was struck by the poster of this band who called themselves The Police. It was unique. I loved it. Ironically, they were the one act I didn’t go see there. I have always regretted that decision.
Excellent! Cannot wait to see which other songs follow too! :)
Thanks ever so much!
The Police are an iconic and legendary band to say the least! So many great songs to see and hear!
Agreed! Amazing band!!
@@Producelikeapro Definitely true!
@@RC32Smiths01 Thanks ever so much
@@Producelikeapro My pleasure!
This channel is going to blow up really soon i can feel it. Fantastic content keep it up!!
You're very kind Aron!
The first time I heard this was in 1979 and I was sitting in my car..poleaxed.
It's still my favorite Police song and it should be said that not enough has been said about Andy's solo's near then end
Another great vid Warren 👍🏻🎸🥁🎤
Thanks ever so much Ryan!
What a great format ! Please more . Such a great quality content !
Greetings from Germany
Thanks ever so much Tyl!
@@Producelikeapro No, i thank You !!!
You already helped me so much teaching me to mix my drum Videos With your amazing tipps !!! And now you Made me sit down and take my old Tele in my hands and learning That Message in the bottle Riff :)
Thank you for your Passion for the Music and for your wisdome .you are such a great Guy With such a good soul that shines through your Videos !!!
Thank you so much
@@Tyl-Fiedler that's very kind of you! I'm so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
@@Tyl-Fiedler Haha, me too now you mention it!
One of the greatest bands of all time
Thanks ever so much James!
Hey man just found your site awesome analysis of my favorite band of all time..... it's got me excited about music again I actually blew the dust off my bass guitar and started practicing again!!!
WOW! That's amazing to hear! Thanks ever so much!
What an excellent break down of this song. Very impressive.
Thanks ever so much!!
Thanks for looking at this classic tune.
I absolutely love this track. I'm pretty sure that Andy Summers once said that this was his favourite recording made by The Police. The drum intro and harmonised guitar riff still gets me every time and it remains one of the most recognizable starts to any recorded music.
Thanks ever so much! You are right! Love this song!
Another great and invaluable video Hermano. I was in high school when this song came out. memories.
Me too!
Oh man ... 4 days ago, when coming across this comment, I was thinking, "Why are they calling him 'Hermano'?! His name's Warren!" - Two days later I saw the facebook posting in Spanish of a Tex-Mexican friend of mine in which she was wishing her twin 'hermano' a happy Birthday; Duh! x-)) I had actually known about a year ago it was Spanish for 'brother', but I'd forgotten again meanwhile :-)
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@@zorroinhell5549 - Yeah, it sure is! :-))
Thanks
Thanks ever so much
Hi Warren, yes even to this day the Police have there own sound, very unique, amazing video, what great content, thank you , all the best.
Thanks ever so much Darren!
Yet another great show Warren. Informative without any gushing. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe everyone.
Thanks ever so much
I love the way the vocals come in halfway through the riff
Me too! Thanks ever so much
Oh GOD, please more of this!!!
Thanks ever so much
From my favourite Police album
One of mine too!!
It's a tie between this one and 'Zenyatta Mondatta' for me :-)
Yet another brilliant episode in this revelatory series. Loving it to bits. By they way, one of the best rock 'n' roll memoirs you will ever read is 'One Train Later' by Andy Summers. The Police don't even appear until the last third of the book. His musical journey prior to the band is simply astonishing. He played soul music with Zoot Money in London mod clubs in the mid-1960s, was in a psychedelic band called Dantalion's Chariot, joined Eric Burdon & the Animals... Soft Machine... jammed with Hendrix one night in a studio (Hendrix on bass)... toured with Neil Sedaka (who bought him an amp 'cos he didn't have one at the time). Incredible story. He was in his late 30s when he joined the Police --- though he looked 10 years younger. Still looks great today -- the music has kept him young. Great photographer too.
I liked Sting's and Stewart's biographies also, however Andy's is my #1, and I've read it multiple times. He's 77 now, one year older than Keith Richards!
@@mightyV444 ...and looks about 30 years younger!
@@NewFalconerRecords - ... despite also having had his fair share of indulgence! :-)
Thanks ever so much New Falconer!
The beginning of this song presents a feel of urgency that is the soul of great rock music
Agreed 100%! Masterpiece
Wonderful video Warren, fantastic information and really getting into what the band had to say about it. Thanks so much!
Brilliant video... one of my fav songs all time. So happy to hear how it was created. And Copeland...omg. what a drummer...
Thanks ever so much Johnny!
Well done! This tune is so significant and signature for them that when they reunited (I saw them in 07') they opened with it. It's brilliance!
Yes! I was actually thinking once they'd finished the song, "Well, they've already played their biggest hit - what could possibly still come *now* ??" LOADS of great songs, the answer was! :-)) And I reckon they'd done a great job with rearranging most of the songs, too! It would've been a bit boring, had they played them exactly like they'd already done back in the day.
Yes, truly a masterpiece!
By far the best Police song. Not even close.
Marvellous! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Thank you for this one. Still my favorite Police song. I'm still not sure how but I think I completely missed it on radio, albeit we only had one am station back then. I remember riding my bike and singing Roxanne. The next Police moment I remember was holding the 45 for Don't Stand So Close To Me in my hands.
This was excellent! I enjoyed this format a ton and feel it was a very well rounded bit of storytelling.
Awesome viseo as always!!!
Thanks ever so much Milton!
The amount of fun I had playing this song with a garage band in 1981 is incalculable. Great work.
Me too!! I’ve played this song live so many times!!
That John Peel version of Copeland’s drumming is smooth!
Agreed!
Incredible riff, incredible song and fantastic production. I bought this on 7” green vinyl when it was released. I was so excited to see this at number one and seeing the video on Top Of The Pops each weekend. This is an excellent video series, Warren!
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Do you still have it Joey!
Great series, so much to learn about the music we love!
Wow! Thanks ever so much I really appreciate it!
It really twisted my brain when I heard it at the time, the three instruments all seemed to do different things. I was 16, starting to play guitar. Great timing!
Thanks Warren for your insightful series. I pass the location of the old Surrey Sound Studio every day on my way to work. It's now a ladies fitness studio above a specialist sports shop. It was never a luxurious place unlike some! I was blessed to have known the late Geoff Boswell who was engineer at Surrey Sounds. It's amazing to think of what was created in this unassuming place.
Another killer song selection for this series. Good stuff.
Thanks ever so much!!
Fantastic Song, Sting is such a amazing artist and this riff is a great guitar warm up exercise, too 😎Thx for this great Episode!
A firm +1 given here!
@@petesawchuk haha thx Pete!!!!
Excellent breakdown again! Love how you roll the social context & industry landscape into these it really aids understanding the process & the place each song occupies. Also the detailed equipment list.
This video is great ! I just love the way you mix technics with music theory, and music History actually. The whole thing is brilliantly illustrated with many interesting videos and extracts of interviews and so on! 💪👍😎 Excellent job and I would say, as a French, that your accent is absolutely delightful and refreshing for me! I have no problem to understand you at all 😊😎
Excellent review of a gigantic song......
Every aspect is covered objectively and accurately.....
Enhances the collective genius that made The Police......
Wow! Thanks ever so much!!
I love this series! So very good.
Thanks ever so much Julian!
Warren, thank you so much (again) for this video. I can watch you explaining a song and even better playing a guitar by yourself, diving into a riff and explaining every little note's whys and whens literally for hours. It's not only entertaining but most interesting and informative. This is music knowledge at it's best and a bow in the direction of the best musicians we have on this planet. All the best!
The mark of a great song is when it still sounds as fresh forty years later.
Agreed 100%!
Gorgeous episode. thank you so much!!!!
Thanks ever so much Bryan!
You keep talking about my favourite songs! ha ha .. keep 'em coming :-)
Hah Thanks ever so much Terry! I hope you're well!
Great video of this classic song 🎶
Warren, great work , video production is great ! keep up the good work ! greets from russia!
i liked the video before even watching because The Police. thank you!
Thanks ever so much Yash!
Simply an amazing song, thanks Warren keep doing these series!
Thanks ever so much Carlos!
Wow. What a great breakdown, analysis, and history of one of my favorite songs. Thanks for making this.