This is one of the rare instances where instead of doing a straight port of the arcade game, SEGA decided, perhaps due to technical limitations of the hardware to do a different game w/essentially the same gameplay. Arguably, in doing so, they succeeded in making a better game than its arcade namesake.
Hello! Could you do a compairson of International Karate please? Be aware that in the USA it was released as World Karate Championship, and there are versions (Apple 2, DOS) that go only by that name, so many people miss out them. You can maybe add IK+ (Chop N Drop in the USA) also.
Actually the dog is there in Master System version, he just doesn't follow you. But when you crouch the magic icon slowly turns into a dog icon, and when is completely changed you can summon your pal with attack button. As someone said, it was probably an adjustment to have one less sprite on screen and avoid constant flickering.
'member drooling over this and other games as a kid while watching a gameplay demo reel on vhs. Had a C64 back then, so 16bit graphics were mindblowing
The master system tries really hard to replicate the arcade looks, but there is 1 less stage per level...And omg what a fantastic reimagining/sequel is the genesis one!
I can't remember playing this game on the C64 or Amiga but I will now. I will try the Amiga and Arcade version. Great upload, this will give me some great entertainment.
You forgot to show the magic attack on the arcade version, which is one of the cooler, more visually impressive things that differentiates it from the other versions.
Gaming History Source - That's weird. I don't recall if the arcade game had you push a 3rd button or you had to press BOTH the jump & attack buttons at the same time for the magic attack. Huh..
For the little story, the Amiga and ST version were done via a framegrabber (freezing the arcade machine, pick screenshot, and then rework it). The graphics were done on Art studio graphic package on Atari ST hence the bizarre look of the graphics. It has to be noted that it's actually one of the best US Gold game if not the best of them. Images, the development studio did already the good port of Ninja Spirit from Irem on Amiga and ST. On the 8 bits, the CPC version is the best one, the other releases are just rubbish, either C64 and Speccy.
SD CPC is better than the C64 version, either from a graphical point of view, it's a port of the 16bits version, the animation is quite good (don't give a fack to have 50fps, we talk about 8 bits machines, it has no importance). The C64 version is totally subpar, the only nice thing they have added are the 16 bits missing intro screens. But out of that, that's a shit game on C64. I was horrified when i loaded the game on my C64 to see the mess they did with it.
the CPC use bigger sprites than the C64 version. Then, it uses a tiled parallax. It has also to be noted that most commercial CPC games only used 10% of the CPC potential. The CPC has the strongest abilities of all the 8 bits, and by far. Pinball Dreams released lastly use 40% of the CPC potential. Anyway, the 16 colors scheme used on Shadow Dancer is very good, and is based on the ST version which looks 10 times better than the C64 release.
I have to agree with Rooflesoft here. I mean whats the point in using big sprites and parallax and all kinda of fancy stuff if it makes the game unplayable you might be right in Amstrad wasnt used to its full potential but that dosent make this port better.
The game is playable, and is one of the best US Gold games on CPC. Shadow Dancer for C64 is an insult in its own right, i just couldn't believe what i got in front of my eyes the first time i loaded it on my C64. Rubbish coding, and rubbish graphics.
When I see these arcade ports on the Amiga and ST, I remember how it seemed to be publisher policy back then that so long as the game looked decent in screen shots on the back of the box, the game could be a jerky mess. Many people I knew then would base their purchases on how pretty a game looked then be disappointed when they got it home, when it was to late.
+Zeusdaz - The Unemulated Retro Game Channel their standard got better when they made better quality games on the 16-bit Sega Genesis/Mega-Drive and/or SNES consoles
Holy crap, they've managed to get parallax scrolling on all the 8 bit versions of the game!! As for the 16 bit computer versions, no parallax, but they've got the dog's barks... Ugh...
I always loved this game. C64 does a good job of having the right feel and the bonus level is spot on. Master system just needed some more time I recon. The graphics and feel are pretty close even without the dog. Why they chose to put those little fires along the floor I have no idea as all it seems to do is induce flicker. And the animation of him landing on the ground is off as he goes through the ground initially. A little more time and a bigger cart and I think it could have been sweet.
I think the fires are there so that the player has to risk standing up and not go cheap and kill all the enemies who cannot crouch. Then again, there are the crates for that.
I think I found out where ninja magic formula are taken from: the shingon buddhism (which actually is indian). The pronounciation of those mantras is horrible. 1) Om sammaya sattva - "I am an embodiment of the pledge" 2) Namah samanta buddhanam bhah - "Homage to all the Buddhas" 3) Om ara pa ca na - no translation, but refers to enlightning wisdom . References: www.nckoyasan.org/nckoyasan/13_Mantras.html shii.bibanon.org/shii.org/knows/Thirteen_Buddhas.html
@@madbulfiaux6779 RS ele disse que não há versão pra Super Nintendo,Shadow Dancer era exclusivo da Sega,ela licenciou para a US Gold os ports para computadores.
GENESIS IS BEST BY FAR!!! But, the sequel was only released on that system, but it did give the ability to break away from 'everything must be ported from Arcade and not have its own original version' mindset, and look how amazing it looks, sounds, and plays! But I prefer Master System for the original game.
The Amiga versions is really what the average Amiga port should be like but ends up a actually impressing you thanks to all the crap Amiga arcade ports.
1: Mega Drive/Genesis (reimagined and made the dog more useful) 2: Arcade (the original of course) 3: Master System (props to Sega making it as close to the arcade as possible. It also looks better than the other ports) All the rest are garbage
Agreed. Classic Atari ST really, looks great but sounds like some smurfs tried to make a dubstep record while being fed one by one into a blender. Still, it is a shoe in for number 4 on that list with the Amiga behind at 5. The rest barely look playable but to be fair they are all much older systems.
The Amiga version (along with the ST version) looks like the arcade, so to me it's the best home version, and the C64 version is pretty good too, considering the platform limitations, it's surprisingly faithful to the original.
This shadow dancer is total classic for the Megadrive!!
I played the Genesis version. Rented it and beat it, fantastic game. Back then I had no idea there was any other version.
Absolutely love the Amiga version played it so much. It doesn’t have the best graphics but the music is by far the best and the gameplay is great too
Totally agree
SMS is very impressive. Imagine this was released around the time of its launch. It would have blown people away.
Enjoy ! :D
I shall =)
This is one of the rare instances where instead of doing a straight port of the arcade game, SEGA decided, perhaps due to technical limitations of the hardware to do a different game w/essentially the same gameplay. Arguably, in doing so, they succeeded in making a better game than its arcade namesake.
Hello! Could you do a compairson of International Karate please?
Be aware that in the USA it was released as World Karate Championship, and there are versions (Apple 2, DOS) that go only by that name, so many people miss out them.
You can maybe add IK+ (Chop N Drop in the USA) also.
Actually the dog is there in Master System version, he just doesn't follow you. But when you crouch the magic icon slowly turns into a dog icon, and when is completely changed you can summon your pal with attack button. As someone said, it was probably an adjustment to have one less sprite on screen and avoid constant flickering.
I still have my Master System's cartridge^^
'member drooling over this and other games as a kid while watching a gameplay demo reel on vhs. Had a C64 back then, so 16bit graphics were mindblowing
The master system tries really hard to replicate the arcade looks, but there is 1 less stage per level...And omg what a fantastic reimagining/sequel is the genesis one!
Yup I was playing it today after seeing slopes video about it
That was durn impressive for the Master System. Really great.
Yeah, but where is the dog?
Awesome! I just came for the dog. They’re awesome!
I can't remember playing this game on the C64 or Amiga but I will now. I will try the Amiga and Arcade version.
Great upload, this will give me some great entertainment.
You forgot to show the magic attack on the arcade version, which is one of the cooler, more visually impressive things that differentiates it from the other versions.
Didn't forget.. I couldn't get it to work. 0_o .... not sure what was going on. I played it about 20 times & could not get it to respond. :(
Gaming History Source - That's weird. I don't recall if the arcade game had you push a 3rd button or you had to press BOTH the jump & attack buttons at the same time for the magic attack. Huh..
I tried every button. combinations & anything I could think of. nothing worked.
That's weird. In the MAME there's a 3rd button for magic...
Maybe the arcade game has a DIP switch to enable/disable magic attacks based on operator preference? IDK
Wow didnt know that the master system version is so near to the arcade. Even the magic with voice samples very impressiv
This game is amazing. I first saw it on Genesis, it was marvelous, jaw breaking.
For the little story, the Amiga and ST version were done via a framegrabber (freezing the arcade machine, pick screenshot, and then rework it). The graphics were done on Art studio graphic package on Atari ST hence the bizarre look of the graphics. It has to be noted that it's actually one of the best US Gold game if not the best of them. Images, the development studio did already the good port of Ninja Spirit from Irem on Amiga and ST. On the 8 bits, the CPC version is the best one, the other releases are just rubbish, either C64 and Speccy.
Rooflesoft Games : i own the C64 version, and it's crap beyond anything. Awful to play, and awful to look at.
SD CPC is better than the C64 version, either from a graphical point of view, it's a port of the 16bits version, the animation is quite good (don't give a fack to have 50fps, we talk about 8 bits machines, it has no importance).
The C64 version is totally subpar, the only nice thing they have added are the 16 bits missing intro screens. But out of that, that's a shit game on C64. I was horrified when i loaded the game on my C64 to see the mess they did with it.
the CPC use bigger sprites than the C64 version. Then, it uses a tiled parallax. It has also to be noted that most commercial CPC games only used 10% of the CPC potential. The CPC has the strongest abilities of all the 8 bits, and by far. Pinball Dreams released lastly use 40% of the CPC potential. Anyway, the 16 colors scheme used on Shadow Dancer is very good, and is based on the ST version which looks 10 times better than the C64 release.
I have to agree with Rooflesoft here.
I mean whats the point in using big sprites and parallax and all kinda of fancy stuff if it makes the game unplayable you might be right in Amstrad wasnt used to its full potential but that dosent make this port better.
The game is playable, and is one of the best US Gold games on CPC. Shadow Dancer for C64 is an insult in its own right, i just couldn't believe what i got in front of my eyes the first time i loaded it on my C64. Rubbish coding, and rubbish graphics.
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Very nice my friend!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it ! :)
When I see these arcade ports on the Amiga and ST, I remember how it seemed to be publisher policy back then that so long as the game looked decent in screen shots on the back of the box, the game could be a jerky mess. Many people I knew then would base their purchases on how pretty a game looked then be disappointed when they got it home, when it was to late.
Super la vercion del genesis y la vercion de Amiga muy buena.
Although US Gold seems to suck, their Shadow Dancer conversions are not half-bad considering this comes from the Sega 18 hardware.
Master System:Ambicious version
The actual game starts at 26:57.
That spectrum version is great. You should clarify tho if its 48k or 128k.
ZX Spectrum one - was that jammy Dodgers the ninja was throwing?
Sms version is surprising. The voice sample large sprites..if it was fm compatible I'd buy it
In my opinion, the Genesis version is the best, hands down. The soundtrack alone really makes it stand out from the rest.
Not even the same game. Bet youre to young to even play any of these when they debut.
@@quattro4468 Whether anyone is or not doesn't mean they shouldn't enjoy old Sega games. They really don't make them like they used to.
Coincidence I just cleared this game on my Genesis earlier today lol
Me also on hard with no shurikens
Cool
stevacus that's awesome
NIce variation on the MD
XD The dog became smaller.
Well Done!
C64 so bad!
SMS is cute!
But i think the best it´s MD!
Namaste.
The C64 version has killer graphics and handles fairly well. Too bad it's so incredibly difficult. Cheats are pretty much required.
come now, you wouldn't play that thing on c64, be real.
the words "US Gold" show up immediately after the arcade version = all hope is lost for the computer versions
+Zeusdaz - The Unemulated Retro Game Channel their standard got better when they made better quality games on the 16-bit Sega Genesis/Mega-Drive and/or SNES consoles
Holy crap, they've managed to get parallax scrolling on all the 8 bit versions of the game!! As for the 16 bit computer versions, no parallax, but they've got the dog's barks... Ugh...
Hey, where's the dog in the Sega Master System version?!
In our memories. RIP doggie!
*sad violin music*
I was mighty impressed with the atari St version a rather decent port
R-type, comparison extravaganza? Every game ever? Every system? Whatever, just a notion.
When you failed! You win!
"youre winer!"
I always loved this game. C64 does a good job of having the right feel and the bonus level is spot on. Master system just needed some more time I recon. The graphics and feel are pretty close even without the dog. Why they chose to put those little fires along the floor I have no idea as all it seems to do is induce flicker. And the animation of him landing on the ground is off as he goes through the ground initially. A little more time and a bigger cart and I think it could have been sweet.
I think the fires are there so that the player has to risk standing up and not go cheap and kill all the enemies who cannot crouch.
Then again, there are the crates for that.
Westwurtzli agreed but like you said crates can do that and won't contribute to sprite flicker.
Ah, shadow dancer. The devs looked at shinobi and thought "how can we make this game more of a quarter eater"? I know, remove the bloody life bar!
I think I found out where ninja magic formula are taken from: the shingon buddhism (which actually is indian).
The pronounciation of those mantras is horrible.
1) Om sammaya sattva - "I am an embodiment of the pledge"
2) Namah samanta buddhanam bhah - "Homage to all the Buddhas"
3) Om ara pa ca na - no translation, but refers to enlightning wisdom .
References:
www.nckoyasan.org/nckoyasan/13_Mantras.html
shii.bibanon.org/shii.org/knows/Thirteen_Buddhas.html
Oustanding commentary. Never realizes it. For me, in SMS version he always said: "ninja-samurai-Siam" lol.
The mega drive game isn't the same one it's a sequel. There's a story at the beginning that explains it.
how comes the master system versions got no dog ?
I had the spectrum version. Disappointed at the mega drive version would have tracked it down too
Heh, the C64 version pairs your ninja with a Shadow Corgi! Run, my vicious little footstool! Grab my enemy by his ankles and never let go!
Either do Let's Compare Yoshi's Cookie, Let's Compare Panel De Pon or do a remake of Let's Compare Earthworm Jim with the DSi version.
Nice vid, but the mega drive one is quite blatantly a different game altogether
Genesis does what Atari,Amiga, Commodore, Amstrad and Spectrum dont!
It also 5 years later than those computers.
It's a completely different game..
Weird that Sega made the game but the Masters didn't have the dog and the Mega Drive game had different levels.
Im pretty sure that Sega removed the dog from the MasterSystem version due hardware limitations, number of sprites on screen for example
Yup, these 8 bit systems just were not very powerful. Look at all that flicker. Adding a dog would make it even worse.
I always liked how he goes through the floor every time you land from a jump in the SMS version, lol. Totally acceptable!
Super Nitendo tem Shadow Dancer?
Dierfson Fiaux
It was never released for the Super Nintendo. Do you know why?
Because Genesis does what Nintendon't.
Mano ñ entendi nada. Porque eu falo português
Paréce que eu falei alguma coisa errada?
@@madbulfiaux6779 RS ele disse que não há versão pra Super Nintendo,Shadow Dancer era exclusivo da Sega,ela licenciou para a US Gold os ports para computadores.
I like the Gensis version more than the arcade.
The Master System is closest to the Arcade. Doing it with a ZILOG
GENESIS IS BEST BY FAR!!! But, the sequel was only released on that system, but it did give the ability to break away from 'everything must be ported from Arcade and not have its own original version' mindset, and look how amazing it looks, sounds, and plays! But I prefer Master System for the original game.
A versão do ARCADE é top tam bem
Castlevania rondo of blood, anything castlevania would be sweet.
I have a Castlevania video on daily motion. Had to move it for copyright reasons.
I'll look into it. only 3 versions though. :/
Master System version is the best
Doggeh~
The Amiga versions is really what the average Amiga port should be like but ends up a actually impressing you thanks to all the crap Amiga arcade ports.
arcade is always king
ZeeX version is always hobo living in a gutter
wow... genesis version is complete different...
And it's one of the best versions!
Marter System corta e metade do jogo
1: Mega Drive/Genesis (reimagined and made the dog more useful)
2: Arcade (the original of course)
3: Master System (props to Sega making it as close to the arcade as possible. It also looks better than the other ports)
All the rest are garbage
atari st looks like arcade
Agreed. Classic Atari ST really, looks great but sounds like some smurfs tried to make a dubstep record while being fed one by one into a blender. Still, it is a shoe in for number 4 on that list with the Amiga behind at 5. The rest barely look playable but to be fair they are all much older systems.
The Amiga version (along with the ST version) looks like the arcade, so to me it's the best home version, and the C64 version is pretty good too, considering the platform limitations, it's surprisingly faithful to the original.
Méga Drive é a melhor versão
ST music! Horrid!
Master system was so awesome...sega fd up so bad in the us against the nes
Damn, C64 is version is as ugly as it gets!