Its great to finally see someone have a chat with Peter Adderton and let him say how it is and his view of things. Love the no BS and sugar coating attitude
This is the best Aussie motorsport chat I've listened to in years. Maybe ever. So refreshing to hear people talk openly about issues. After all, as Aussies we all want to see healthy motorsport in this country. The powers to be with their foot on each driver's neck is just mind boggling.
I stopped watching when the stopped using Australian cars. I don't care to watch US vehicles that I've seen nobody drive in AUstralia. Its embarrassing.
Great episode guys, was excited to watch, and it didn’t disappoint! Need to get Pete on again Maybe get Ryan Walkinshaw on with him, be an interesting chat
Absolutely LOVED this podcast! You have said everything I have been thinking for the past 35 years or so. It took me back to the time when drivers DID have personalities and were allowed to show them, the days before every driver had a PR person, every team had their PR departments who controlled what everybody "said" and what was "released" to the media (ie everything was censored and re-worded). I had with a favourite F1 driver who was the most outspoken of his time. You either "loved" him or "hated" him, there was no middle ground. It was before the internet and F1 news was hard to come by in Australia, maybe a small article on the back page of the daily newspaper. I had to learn the Portuguese language and rely on friends in Brazil posting me magazines and newspaper articles so I could read about him. I was lucky enough to meet him in Adelaide and we became friends over the years. What I admired most about him, was he always spoke "his truth". I didn't always agree and sometimes it was hard for me to defend him when discussing his views with other race fans. But I always felt like I "knew" him, I "understood" him. This podcast, to me, has the same feel of honesty, so thank you for opening this conversation about what the fans really want and more specifically for reminding me what I loved about motor racing, before it became "vanilla".
Superb content. Love the authenticity and calling out the BS. The sport has fallen so far and if those in charge listened to this pod they’d have a bunch of fresh ideas to resuscitate this dying sport.
Well Done Scotty (flying solo), this pod just keeps getting better with each episode. Pete was spot on, Supercars needs to take leaf out of the Nascar book and at least endorse this pod and promote it as part of their media package.
Absolutely awesome podcast. Was great to see Pete speak his mind share some of the Brodie and Paul stuff. Why he’s supporting Will and so on. Looking forward to hopefully more pods like this to come. Just a shame Elliot couldn’t be there to be involved. Loving the content.
Absolutely amazing pod guys and some great points to help the sport. Thank you for bringing the issues with Supercars to light and let’s hope changes can be made to make the sport as good as it can be
I think you make a really good point about being able to use broadcast footage Scott. I guess that's on the Foxtel contract side of things, but getting more footage of the big moments out onto socials would be a positive. Great pod again, good work.
I don't usually comment on TH-cam but I have to say that what you said about covid was 100% on the money as an interstate truckie I would plan my breaks around being able to watch the post race stream as I found it highly entertaining and showed us who you all are it also increased my respect for a few drivers who I would never had liked as they seemed to soulless bring back the inline streaming the banter and also the creation of apex hunters was pure gold
Have to say Peter comes across a lot better in this format than he tends to on Facebook where he often sounds like someone just saying things for the sake of being controversial. Clear to see he's a guy that's just passionate about the sport & just wants it to be as good as it has the potential to be. Loving these podcasts Scott & Elliott, these are the kind of conversations that need to be had & Supercars need to take some notice of what's being said.
This was a great pod!!! I have always found it hard to critical of Peter as he has consistently put his money where his mouth is. Having said that I think that even though I fail to see what help his public lashing Supercars does, the way that Supercars has handled the Erebus fiasco has opened my eyes to the problems that are present. Peter has nothing to hide and is happy to talk through all his thoughts, Supercars are silent till the grave. Thanks so much for doing this Scott. This is the most interesting Supercars discussion I have ever heard, please give us more.
Great episode and a great watch love there is no BS and people tell it how it is. Pete is right this needs to be mainstreamed supercars wouldn’t have a clue how to interact with their fans anymore.
I have my own personal opinions on PA but regardless of those, its hard to really disagree with a lot of what he is saying. This Podcast is really helping bring some of the systemic issues with supercars and bringing on someone like peter who is willing to say what he whats (minus any form of tact 🤣) hopefully gets some people asking questions about the long term stability of Supercars.
Best ep so far, sorry Elliot 😉, the zero BS is brilliant. Well done Peter and don't ever be shy to tell the truth about SC Scotty. Fans appreciate the honesty.
G'day Scott, Just found this. What an absolute ripper for me to watch first. Ive been a supercar fan since the series went to this kind of formula in 1993. But I agree with Peter Adderton its lost something over the past few years. And love him or hate him The days when Tony Cochrane was running the show. It really was a "show" and its popularity peaked. Drivers were able to show and say what they thought. Who didnt froth about the Ingall / Skaife rivalry for example? That sort of thing polarised people. Now its actually kind of Meh 🤷♂️ Id have loved it if PA had been able to obtain the series. That bloke is the promotional king. Knows how to get peoples attention and get the most out of things. Great Job, Im looking forward to seeing more of these.
Finally someone who says it like it is, couldn't have put it any better, Supercars should consider that fans are just as invested in the sport as the players, many over several decades, comments are often made out of sheer frustration with officials & drivers a like and often the criticisms are deserved all be it delivered with unjustified expression, man up and take it on the chin maybe even consider the message if not the manner in which it was written.
Supercars need a Russell Ingall and Greg Murphy type character. The sport needs good and bad guys, drivers you love to hate. Ambrose vs Murphy was awesome. Peter cops a lot of heat, I agree with most of what he has to say.
was a great show, good too see you off the ginger ale, as someone that has been around since spectator 70 s, raced thru the 80 s worked in the sport thru the first v8 bathurst ,super tourer bathurst ,as a full time employee ardc, left the sport disappointed the sport was dying,no one would compromise and now we got bullshit
Great pod boys so refreshing so see unfiltered content. For all the rhetoric around adderton at least he speaks his mind. Whether good or bad. I look forward to this more than anyother motorsport pod. Great job.
Peter made some great points around marketing. Corey LaJois podcast on NASCAR is awesome and authentic. Supercars has a great product but it’s marketing is a little off. Some of the stats they come up with are just weird.
Peter, 100% spot on re the wokeness affecting Supercars on many levels. It is however just a reflection of our broader society in Australia that prohibits healthy challenge and debate of issues as these are disproportionately controlled by minority interests. Having lived and worked in 7 countries in my career, I can strongly attest that we live in the most woke environment in the world. This is to the detriment of sports like Supercars and our society in the broader context. We should actively support healthy debate that in the end contributes to better outcomes for sports such as Supercars and society in general. Keep punching Peter!!
The problem with supercars is that it's become a closed shop, the product is awesome but the structure is on life support because of basically nepotism
Great episode! To me, it feels like SC is in a vicious circle. My thinking and understanding is that it's not financially viable to race regularly - so how to retain fan engagement and interest, let alone grow the sport to what it once was? Because, if fans switch off or stop attending, how is it attractive for new sponsors to get involved and existing sponsors to stay onboard if it's simply not getting eyeballs on their brand? Then, if sponsorship decreases, trying to cover event costs by increasing ticket prices or reducing expenses by minimal events only alienates fans further and you're back at the start of a downward spiral. Very very complex problem with no hard & fast solution.
Loved the pod i really appreciate these podcast i wish jDub did more pods with will n brock i been loving motorsport podcast for the past few years i added yours to collection of listenings
Bloody Brilliant Scott, Thanks for doing this it is great to hear drivers talk about the sport that we all love and also getting PA on was Imo a great idea it was great to hear his thought process and insight, Keep up the great work and can't wait to see you back behind the wheel in the enduro's. Also Goodluck to Will for Sonoma
Bro you’ve been my favourite driver since the walkinshaw days. I loved the twitch covid days and thought it was so sick! I admit I think some of your posts or views have been questionable but seeing your explanation and perspective really opens it all up and it just makes sense. Say what you want, why shouldn’t you? Why does everyone have to agree? Thanks so much for making this podcast bro! Will keep watching 👊🏽
Apex Hunters and Polarizer are better off being independent of Supercars media they should do more Inside Line or old panel show with drivers on Kayo/Foxtel and 7 7+ highlights between rounds to keep interest review last round...
Love this Scott, the question to ask is how was Gen 3 allowed to become the car it is? I don't know how many times I heard that gen 3 was going to save all this money when it was first floated. Paul Morris and Russell Ingall went over it multiple times with many great cost saving ideas. I think the problem now is there's been so much money wasted on it that there's no going back.
Pete is a good guy; love his passion, he says what he means and means what he says…. And yes, too many woke and sensitive individuals misunderstand what Pete and other critics are saying…. Bloody top show guys…..
Gate prices and merchandise is way to expensive aswel. Give the series to Pete and get rid of the stale same old people in charge or commentators. Keep it up Scott!
Peter hit the nail on the head re these space age roller skates and very fast toys. Race fans want to see drivers dicing under brakes, overtaking and racing cars we can relate to. The big surge in Australian motor racing came from Touring Cars, not Sports Sedans, Sports Cars or Formula 5000. Every category has its interest plus die hard fans, but to be profitable it needs herd popularity.......nice popularity wont pay for the real estate needed, and forget about tyre, fuel, mechanics, parts costs......oh, and then car cost and driver wages. My first motor race was 1966 at Calder......the Sports Sedans were the big attraction......Norm Beachey in the Chevy Nova, Peter Manton in the worlds fastest Mini Cooper S, Jimmy McKeon in the worlds fastest Lotus Cortina, Bob Jane in any one of his massive V8 powered cars from his stable, usually the 400+ cubic inch Camaro.......and then the arch villain, Allan Moffat in the Trans Am Mustang everyone wanted to own......dammit, most of the fans would sell their wife just to be allowed to touch that Mustang, put a fingerprint on it . BUT.......the outdated English sports car races and the FJ Holden Race were both nearly as popular as the main race. Then the big sports car race featuring a real Porsche Spyder with an enclosed roof stole the whole show. But all this was only a small niche.......more parents and grown ups watched kiddies football and kiddies ballet than motor racing. Until V8 touring cars we could all buy and drive racing at Bathurst......the flood gates opened and masses poured into support motor racing. Then the idiot bean counters decided to fix the results in favour of imported rice burners we could not buy , and killed off the masses love affair . F1 started with road cars racing long distance on dirt roads and drew big enthusiastic crowds. Now they call it a race when only 20 very fast roller skates follow each other for a few laps behind a safety car.
I stopped watching supercars years ago for a variety of reasons. Still watch other motorsport though. Very refreshing to watch this conversation, but I think many with good ideas are seen as trouble makers and the category will continue to cut its nose off despite its face.
If Peter ever bring Boost back to NZ and wants to support lower lever motorsport, ide happily carry the brand. Love his attitude to everything. Say what you think, and dont hold back.
Boost should promote a series with Marc type cars Nascar type spec body for young drivers and some older star drivers featured to race between Supercars rounds and tracks they don't go maybe use crate Coyote spec engine with supercharger...
i can see what adderton is talking about i walked away from the sport in 98 and had very little to do with it didn't watch bathurst for about 5 years , didn't really liked him but this made me at least listen to what he has to say
Supercars or someone needs to get the Calder Park Thunderdome back up and running. race there twice a year as part of the championship. then they could bring over a few of the Nascar boys for some wildcard entries. that would be an epic marketing venture for supercars right there. you'd get instant hundreds of thousands more watching straight away.
Great job Scott 👍 can't believe I've just found this. It's probably because Supercars isn't on my radar as much as it used to be, and that's a problem right there. I've been watching Nascar for tne first time lately because of SVG, Brodie, Cam and Wil and can say a lot of the time you get more of the human element which translates into more entertainment. I reckon if you poled the punter on top of the mountain at Bathurst or the boys having a barby watching surface or Townsville they'd rather see Cam on the telecast saying Anton was an asshole for pushing him wide in turn one for example than hearing some tow the line comment like oh well that's racing. V8 Supercars seem to be loosing there entertainment value as a whole IMO 🤷♂️
I've followed the sport passionately since I first watched Bathurst in 1986. But I don't watch it anymore. I can't justify getting a Sky subscription to watch racing once a month and why should I? Nascar is on three now every weekend and it's not dominated by one team unlike Supercars.
I'll say it again, what's killing the sport is Fox and Sky sports. If I were a sponsor I'd be concerned that fans like me just don't watch anymore because we won't pay for a TV prescription. Especially when Nascar is free to view every weekend. When I got my first Mobile phone I got Vodafone because that's what was plastered all over my favourite driver's car. Back then the racing was on free TV and me and my mates all watched. Now I know nobody who watches Supercars because family etc comes before paying to get a Sky subscription.
this podcast is awesome it's the first episode i have seen but already love it. For me i understand what Peter was saying about Brodie but for me Brodie is a grown man who can make his own decicions and to dump you Peter and boost like he did he made his bed now he has to lie in it. It's his own fault.
I think a big part of the issue with teams not wanting to win and drivers not wanting to win is because they all get equal prize money regardless of where they finish.
This isn’t the case I can tell you. Sponsors etc have expectations and results bring sponsors. Also most drivers have bonuses worked into their contracts. I certainly did from p10-p5 then P5-3rd then podium and win goes up from there. SP.
I LOVE THIS TAKE ... on everything you guys have spoken about . I will agree and disagree with Peter on one thing . Not all social media is dedicated to BAD attitude. I dedicate a FB reviews page to doing the opposite . Positivite reviews. Granted hasn't gained traction because who gives a fuck what I think of things ... also the world thrives on hate and its toxic... anyway great podcast 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I can watch/listen to this or Gypsy Tales podcast in its entirety because its real and unfiltered and then Supercars own commentators are so far passed their used by dates it makes the actual Supercars races virtually unbearable to watch. Skaife has always sucked and needs to give up, Nothing but respect for Crompo, Larko and Lowndes but why on earth would you want a bunch of old men to be the face of the sport.
Scotty any chance triple 8 can hook you up with red bull and get them to sponsor this pod! Or triple 8 want to have a chat about creating a dedicated app to behind the scenes of the team and feature the podcast or driver profiles (day in the life) like they do with their Tik Toks! I really do struggle with how this sport fails to push new or exciting content
Yes this i totally agree with you I love the reports and podcast for motorsports look at stacking pennies or even the f1 podcast it's so much more then just what ever sc is doing
At Winton they used to have a fan interaction where they allowed fans on infield with cars set-up on old pitlane.. Guess now they are doing town to track as similar event...
Peter is a business man who understands cost. Supercars has insular people who are not business people in charge. The options Supercars has are plenty, but they continue flogging the same dead horse. 36 cars would be great. How about 20 Supercars, 8 Transam Cars and 8 TCR cars. All drivers are fed into the main game via TCR and Trans Am with the winners in the respective Trans Am and TCR cars getting potential drives in a Supercar. The current 20 car feild is not going to work long term. There could be other options as well. The younger generation love 4 cylinder turbo cars. Maybe having some type of transition that has future merit is equired. I love V8's but in recent years, 4 cylinder turbo's and 6 cylinder cars are my thing.
Peter Adderton is so right about these podcasts. Supercars need to pull their heads out of their ass and get their shit together. They need to be embracing these podcasts. Im so sick of their fake scripted mini showcase things they put on that are most of the time boring as batshit. Look at Nascar and all the endorsed podcasts they have. Theres Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s Dirty Mo Media, Actions Detrimental with Denny Hamlin, Stacking Pennies with Corey LaJoie, All very interesting an good podcasts, Look at SVG he goes on those shows every few weeks and loves it, he says what he wants on them talks some shit, has some fun, and no one tries to crucify him for speaking his mind.
Actually it may have been Dick Johnson who put Australians on the Nascar map in the 80s. He took Racecam over and while being interviewed he spun himself out and before they could react said Oh Fuck live on TV.
Example number 1 on personality is David Reynolds. Dave is 100% character. He is 100%, a great marketing person. He is like the Daniel Ricciardo of Supercars, but Supercars shut his mouth. Dan says stuff with a smile on his face that in many cases is not F1 type speak. Dave says things that may not be politically correct, but everybody knows he is a genuine good human. He is like a mute these days. Supercars have taken away his ability to create a persona.
To Peter's point about doing things differently; why not use the Brodie/Betty situation for good? He doesn't need a die-cut decal on a helmet to be a good ambassador for his brand. Sure, Peter claims he'll take Brodie's call going forward, but man... interesting call to excommunicate him.
Its great to finally see someone have a chat with Peter Adderton and let him say how it is and his view of things. Love the no BS and sugar coating attitude
Cheers! Stoked to hear you enjoyed the listen. SP
Hearing Peter Adderton in conversation like this puts his comments on social media into a far greater context. Excellent stuff👏🤙
Great yarn guys. Awesome to get a look into how Pete ticks and what motivates them both.
Appreciate it mate!
Huuuge pod Scott, well done. Direct behind the scenes with truth and transparency is what I think fans have screamed for for to long.
Thanks mate!
This is the best Aussie motorsport chat I've listened to in years. Maybe ever. So refreshing to hear people talk openly about issues. After all, as Aussies we all want to see healthy motorsport in this country. The powers to be with their foot on each driver's neck is just mind boggling.
I stopped watching when the stopped using Australian cars. I don't care to watch US vehicles that I've seen nobody drive in AUstralia. Its embarrassing.
So Good Scotty, love him or hate Pete Adderton, but he talks the truth.. he needs to be a team owner
Or a series owner / promoter? 🤔
Great episode guys, was excited to watch, and it didn’t disappoint! Need to get Pete on again Maybe get Ryan Walkinshaw on with him, be an interesting chat
Absolutely LOVED this podcast! You have said everything I have been thinking for the past 35 years or so. It took me back to the time when drivers DID have personalities and were allowed to show them, the days before every driver had a PR person, every team had their PR departments who controlled what everybody "said" and what was "released" to the media (ie everything was censored and re-worded). I had with a favourite F1 driver who was the most outspoken of his time. You either "loved" him or "hated" him, there was no middle ground. It was before the internet and F1 news was hard to come by in Australia, maybe a small article on the back page of the daily newspaper. I had to learn the Portuguese language and rely on friends in Brazil posting me magazines and newspaper articles so I could read about him. I was lucky enough to meet him in Adelaide and we became friends over the years. What I admired most about him, was he always spoke "his truth". I didn't always agree and sometimes it was hard for me to defend him when discussing his views with other race fans. But I always felt like I "knew" him, I "understood" him. This podcast, to me, has the same feel of honesty, so thank you for opening this conversation about what the fans really want and more specifically for reminding me what I loved about motor racing, before it became "vanilla".
Superb content. Love the authenticity and calling out the BS. The sport has fallen so far and if those in charge listened to this pod they’d have a bunch of fresh ideas to resuscitate this dying sport.
Wow I have a whole different perspective of PA after watching that
This pod will be pretty popular soon. Awesome work.
Thanks!
Well Done Scotty (flying solo), this pod just keeps getting better with each episode. Pete was spot on, Supercars needs to take leaf out of the Nascar book and at least endorse this pod and promote it as part of their media package.
Thanks for the support! SP.
Absolutely my go to podcast. love listening to PA he's so entertaining. Well done guys well done
Nailed it again guys, great to see Peter voice his point of view without being bollocked.
Keep it up fellas, loving every minute of your pods. 😀
That was so interesting. Peter is an interesting guy. A lot of what he says makes sense. His views on life and how to approach things.
The banter between the drivers in race at the start of the E-series was golden, shame it only lasted a couple of weeks.
Absolutely awesome podcast. Was great to see Pete speak his mind share some of the Brodie and Paul stuff.
Why he’s supporting Will and so on.
Looking forward to hopefully more pods like this to come.
Just a shame Elliot couldn’t be there to be involved.
Loving the content.
Thanks a lot mate. EB will be back on the next one! Agreed, PA is a good bloke and the sport/drivers need people like him involved.
Absolutely amazing pod guys and some great points to help the sport. Thank you for bringing the issues with Supercars to light and let’s hope changes can be made to make the sport as good as it can be
I think you make a really good point about being able to use broadcast footage Scott. I guess that's on the Foxtel contract side of things, but getting more footage of the big moments out onto socials would be a positive.
Great pod again, good work.
Awesome episode well done. Pete needs to have more coverage so good to listen to if only Supercars would listen
This has been the best Supercars content for years, including the racing!
Thanks! 🙏🏼
Epic podcast
You have got to give it to Pete man he tells it how it is.
Another great job scotty. I agree, Your dad would be proud mate.
Thanks a lot! SP :)
Love listening to Peter. Straight shooter
100% no crap. Peter is a genuine logical thinker.
Bloody good podcast Scott. Loving these. Keep up the great work.
Much appreciated!
I don't usually comment on TH-cam but I have to say that what you said about covid was 100% on the money as an interstate truckie I would plan my breaks around being able to watch the post race stream as I found it highly entertaining and showed us who you all are it also increased my respect for a few drivers who I would never had liked as they seemed to soulless bring back the inline streaming the banter and also the creation of apex hunters was pure gold
This is awesome to hear mate. Appreciate the support and stay safe out there on the roads! SP.
Holy shit glad i found this... love it Guy's Also to Add we need more unfiltered Greg Murphy's on the grid
This and The Driver's Seat are probably the best at being honest about Supercars.
Have to say Peter comes across a lot better in this format than he tends to on Facebook where he often sounds like someone just saying things for the sake of being controversial. Clear to see he's a guy that's just passionate about the sport & just wants it to be as good as it has the potential to be. Loving these podcasts Scott & Elliott, these are the kind of conversations that need to be had & Supercars need to take some notice of what's being said.
This was a great pod!!!
I have always found it hard to critical of Peter as he has consistently put his money where his mouth is. Having said that I think that even though I fail to see what help his public lashing Supercars does, the way that Supercars has handled the Erebus fiasco has opened my eyes to the problems that are present. Peter has nothing to hide and is happy to talk through all his thoughts, Supercars are silent till the grave.
Thanks so much for doing this Scott. This is the most interesting Supercars discussion I have ever heard, please give us more.
Great episode and a great watch love there is no BS and people tell it how it is. Pete is right this needs to be mainstreamed supercars wouldn’t have a clue how to interact with their fans anymore.
Nice work very Frank and Open conversation - a great insight to the sport ~ Cheers
Reallly enjoyed this episode well done great too see will there and Pete :) so thanks again we appreciate this!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was awesome Scott, good luck in the enduros later this year !
Thanks dude! SP 👍🏼
The ratings will be through the roof with this episode. I’m sure it will continue to be strong
Going to be a tough one to follow 😅
I have my own personal opinions on PA but regardless of those, its hard to really disagree with a lot of what he is saying. This Podcast is really helping bring some of the systemic issues with supercars and bringing on someone like peter who is willing to say what he whats (minus any form of tact 🤣) hopefully gets some people asking questions about the long term stability of Supercars.
Best ep so far, sorry Elliot 😉, the zero BS is brilliant. Well done Peter and don't ever be shy to tell the truth about SC Scotty. Fans appreciate the honesty.
G'day Scott,
Just found this.
What an absolute ripper for me to watch first.
Ive been a supercar fan since the series went to this kind of formula in 1993.
But I agree with Peter Adderton its lost something over the past few years.
And love him or hate him The days when Tony Cochrane was running the show.
It really was a "show" and its popularity peaked. Drivers were able to show and say what they thought.
Who didnt froth about the Ingall / Skaife rivalry for example? That sort of thing polarised people. Now its actually kind of Meh 🤷♂️
Id have loved it if PA had been able to obtain the series.
That bloke is the promotional king.
Knows how to get peoples attention and get the most out of things.
Great Job, Im looking forward to seeing more of these.
Honestly never been a huge fan of yours but this is making me come around, very much enjoyed this
But why not? we know each other so well haha in all seriousness no prob man thanks for the support. SP
Finally someone who says it like it is, couldn't have put it any better, Supercars should consider that fans are just as invested in the sport as the players, many over several decades, comments are often made out of sheer frustration with officials & drivers a like and often the criticisms are deserved all be it delivered with unjustified expression, man up and take it on the chin maybe even consider the message if not the manner in which it was written.
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Supercars need a Russell Ingall and Greg Murphy type character. The sport needs good and bad guys, drivers you love to hate. Ambrose vs Murphy was awesome.
Peter cops a lot of heat, I agree with most of what he has to say.
was a great show, good too see you off the ginger ale, as someone that has been around since spectator 70 s, raced thru the 80 s worked in the sport thru the first v8 bathurst ,super tourer bathurst ,as a full time employee ardc, left the sport disappointed the sport was dying,no one would compromise and now we got bullshit
Great pod boys so refreshing so see unfiltered content. For all the rhetoric around adderton at least he speaks his mind. Whether good or bad. I look forward to this more than anyother motorsport pod. Great job.
Cheers mate! Yep and he’s been a great supporter of many young drivers.
@@apexhuntersunited He sure has and its disappointing that he has been stonewalled to a degree by the powers in motorsport.
Peter made some great points around marketing. Corey LaJois podcast on NASCAR is awesome and authentic. Supercars has a great product but it’s marketing is a little off. Some of the stats they come up with are just weird.
Peter, 100% spot on re the wokeness affecting Supercars on many levels. It is however just a reflection of our broader society in Australia that prohibits healthy challenge and debate of issues as these are disproportionately controlled by minority interests. Having lived and worked in 7 countries in my career, I can strongly attest that we live in the most woke environment in the world. This is to the detriment of sports like Supercars and our society in the broader context. We should actively support healthy debate that in the end contributes to better outcomes for sports such as Supercars and society in general. Keep punching Peter!!
One hundred % right what your saying. I'm watching nascar now supercars are gone.
Peter Adderton what an absolute champion of a bloke he talked so much sense!
This was a fun pod!
FACTS! 30+ year Nascar fan and have Loved Australian Super Car eversince I visited Perth and it was on the tv 15yrs ago!
The problem with supercars is that it's become a closed shop, the product is awesome but the structure is on life support because of basically nepotism
One good thing I like about Brodie is that while boost may not be on his helmet, his Facebook still has boost all over it.
Great episode!
To me, it feels like SC is in a vicious circle. My thinking and understanding is that it's not financially viable to race regularly - so how to retain fan engagement and interest, let alone grow the sport to what it once was?
Because, if fans switch off or stop attending, how is it attractive for new sponsors to get involved and existing sponsors to stay onboard if it's simply not getting eyeballs on their brand?
Then, if sponsorship decreases, trying to cover event costs by increasing ticket prices or reducing expenses by minimal events only alienates fans further and you're back at the start of a downward spiral.
Very very complex problem with no hard & fast solution.
Great chat gents..Toowoomba kid doing great..Go Will!
Loved the pod i really appreciate these podcast i wish jDub did more pods with will n brock i been loving motorsport podcast for the past few years i added yours to collection of listenings
Leave it with us :)
Bloody Brilliant Scott, Thanks for doing this it is great to hear drivers talk about the sport that we all love and also getting PA on was Imo a great idea it was great to hear his thought process and insight, Keep up the great work and can't wait to see you back behind the wheel in the enduro's. Also Goodluck to Will for Sonoma
Thanks mate, appreciate the support! SP
Bro you’ve been my favourite driver since the walkinshaw days. I loved the twitch covid days and thought it was so sick! I admit I think some of your posts or views have been questionable but seeing your explanation and perspective really opens it all up and it just makes sense. Say what you want, why shouldn’t you? Why does everyone have to agree?
Thanks so much for making this podcast bro! Will keep watching 👊🏽
Peter need to be the president of v8supercars he is speaking facts .
Good on you guys. Great chat. Very real.
Cheers mate glad you enjoyed it!
Apex Hunters and Polarizer are better off being independent of Supercars media they should do more Inside Line or old panel show with drivers on Kayo/Foxtel and 7 7+ highlights between rounds to keep interest review last round...
Love this Scott, the question to ask is how was Gen 3 allowed to become the car it is? I don't know how many times I heard that gen 3 was going to save all this money when it was first floated. Paul Morris and Russell Ingall went over it multiple times with many great cost saving ideas. I think the problem now is there's been so much money wasted on it that there's no going back.
Bloody brilliant love this podcast, PA has it one why don’t Supercars listen 😵💫
Cheers mate!
Pete is a good guy; love his passion, he says what he means and means what he says….
And yes, too many woke and sensitive individuals misunderstand what Pete and other critics are saying….
Bloody top show guys…..
Excellent content and couldn't agree more with Peter regarding Brodie getting bad advice. Such a shame.
Gate prices and merchandise is way to expensive aswel. Give the series to Pete and get rid of the stale same old people in charge or commentators. Keep it up Scott!
Absolutely great episode guys!
Thanks legend
Peter hit the nail on the head re these space age roller skates and very fast toys.
Race fans want to see drivers dicing under brakes, overtaking and racing cars we can relate to.
The big surge in Australian motor racing came from Touring Cars, not Sports Sedans, Sports Cars or Formula 5000.
Every category has its interest plus die hard fans, but to be profitable it needs herd popularity.......nice popularity wont pay for the real estate needed, and forget about tyre, fuel, mechanics, parts costs......oh, and then car cost and driver wages.
My first motor race was 1966 at Calder......the Sports Sedans were the big attraction......Norm Beachey in the Chevy Nova, Peter Manton in the worlds fastest Mini Cooper S, Jimmy McKeon in the worlds fastest Lotus Cortina, Bob Jane in any one of his massive V8 powered cars from his stable, usually the 400+ cubic inch Camaro.......and then the arch villain, Allan Moffat in the Trans Am Mustang everyone wanted to own......dammit, most of the fans would sell their wife just to be allowed to touch that Mustang, put a fingerprint on it .
BUT.......the outdated English sports car races and the FJ Holden Race were both nearly as popular as the main race.
Then the big sports car race featuring a real Porsche Spyder with an enclosed roof stole the whole show.
But all this was only a small niche.......more parents and grown ups watched kiddies football and kiddies ballet than motor racing.
Until V8 touring cars we could all buy and drive racing at Bathurst......the flood gates opened and masses poured into support motor racing.
Then the idiot bean counters decided to fix the results in favour of imported rice burners we could not buy , and killed off the masses love affair .
F1 started with road cars racing long distance on dirt roads and drew big enthusiastic crowds.
Now they call it a race when only 20 very fast roller skates follow each other for a few laps behind a safety car.
I stopped watching supercars years ago for a variety of reasons. Still watch other motorsport though. Very refreshing to watch this conversation, but I think many with good ideas are seen as trouble makers and the category will continue to cut its nose off despite its face.
If Peter ever bring Boost back to NZ and wants to support lower lever motorsport, ide happily carry the brand. Love his attitude to everything. Say what you think, and dont hold back.
SVG had throttle issue at Indy too and Brodie started last in spare car worked his way up...
Boost should promote a series with Marc type cars Nascar type spec body for young drivers and some older star drivers featured to race between Supercars rounds and tracks they don't go maybe use crate Coyote spec engine with supercharger...
i can see what adderton is talking about i walked away from the sport in 98 and had very little to do with it didn't watch bathurst for about 5 years , didn't really liked him but this made me at least listen to what he has to say
Great show guys, Love your work Scotty
Thanks mate! SP
Supercars or someone needs to get the Calder Park Thunderdome back up and running. race there twice a year as part of the championship. then they could bring over a few of the Nascar boys for some wildcard entries. that would be an epic marketing venture for supercars right there. you'd get instant hundreds of thousands more watching straight away.
If they upgraded Dragstrip and ran Top Fuel again would make big event... Run updated Roacourse into Oval infield tidy up stands viewing areas...
spot on PA,Difinatly shpuld be on kayo or fta
Great episode guys . Well done pye awesome stuff
Cheers! SP
Great job Scott 👍 can't believe I've just found this. It's probably because Supercars isn't on my radar as much as it used to be, and that's a problem right there. I've been watching Nascar for tne first time lately because of SVG, Brodie, Cam and Wil and can say a lot of the time you get more of the human element which translates into more entertainment. I reckon if you poled the punter on top of the mountain at Bathurst or the boys having a barby watching surface or Townsville they'd rather see Cam on the telecast saying Anton was an asshole for pushing him wide in turn one for example than hearing some tow the line comment like oh well that's racing. V8 Supercars seem to be loosing there entertainment value as a whole IMO 🤷♂️
Great podcast honest and real ! ❤❤
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Scott wearing a Whoop. IYKYK!
I've followed the sport passionately since I first watched Bathurst in 1986. But I don't watch it anymore. I can't justify getting a Sky subscription to watch racing once a month and why should I? Nascar is on three now every weekend and it's not dominated by one team unlike Supercars.
I'll say it again, what's killing the sport is Fox and Sky sports. If I were a sponsor I'd be concerned that fans like me just don't watch anymore because we won't pay for a TV prescription. Especially when Nascar is free to view every weekend. When I got my first Mobile phone I got Vodafone because that's what was plastered all over my favourite driver's car. Back then the racing was on free TV and me and my mates all watched. Now I know nobody who watches Supercars because family etc comes before paying to get a Sky subscription.
Yall"s race tracks are awesome as well!
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this podcast is awesome it's the first episode i have seen but already love it. For me i understand what Peter was saying about Brodie but for me Brodie is a grown man who can make his own decicions and to dump you Peter and boost like he did he made his bed now he has to lie in it. It's his own fault.
Make supercars better? 1. Make it easier to watch. 2. Let them bang doors.
Watching from NZ. Go good in the USA Will
Loved it, good one guys
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👌👌👌 Great Podcast Lads!
Thanks mate!
Loved it so true
I think a big part of the issue with teams not wanting to win and drivers not wanting to win is because they all get equal prize money regardless of where they finish.
This isn’t the case I can tell you. Sponsors etc have expectations and results bring sponsors. Also most drivers have bonuses worked into their contracts. I certainly did from p10-p5 then P5-3rd then podium and win goes up from there. SP.
@@apexhuntersunited ah ok fair enough, loving this podcast btw, I hope it doesn't get cancelled by supercars
888 swapped SVG and Feeney to get a 'round win' probably for sponsor deal...
Will Brown Is Awesome
I LOVE THIS TAKE ... on everything you guys have spoken about . I will agree and disagree with Peter on one thing . Not all social media is dedicated to BAD attitude. I dedicate a FB reviews page to doing the opposite . Positivite reviews. Granted hasn't gained traction because who gives a fuck what I think of things ... also the world thrives on hate and its toxic... anyway great podcast 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Peter what a legend
I can watch/listen to this or Gypsy Tales podcast in its entirety because its real and unfiltered and then Supercars own commentators are so far passed their used by dates it makes the actual Supercars races virtually unbearable to watch. Skaife has always sucked and needs to give up, Nothing but respect for Crompo, Larko and Lowndes but why on earth would you want a bunch of old men to be the face of the sport.
Cheers mate!
Scotty any chance triple 8 can hook you up with red bull and get them to sponsor this pod! Or triple 8 want to have a chat about creating a dedicated app to behind the scenes of the team and feature the podcast or driver profiles (day in the life) like they do with their Tik Toks! I really do struggle with how this sport fails to push new or exciting content
Yes this i totally agree with you I love the reports and podcast for motorsports look at stacking pennies or even the f1 podcast it's so much more then just what ever sc is doing
Great podcast 👌
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At Winton they used to have a fan interaction where they allowed fans on infield with cars set-up on old pitlane.. Guess now they are doing town to track as similar event...
Peter is a business man who understands cost. Supercars has insular people who are not business people in charge. The options Supercars has are plenty, but they continue flogging the same dead horse. 36 cars would be great. How about 20 Supercars, 8 Transam Cars and 8 TCR cars. All drivers are fed into the main game via TCR and Trans Am with the winners in the respective Trans Am and TCR cars getting potential drives in a Supercar. The current 20 car feild is not going to work long term. There could be other options as well. The younger generation love 4 cylinder turbo cars. Maybe having some type of transition that has future merit is equired. I love V8's but in recent years, 4 cylinder turbo's and 6 cylinder cars are my thing.
Peter Adderton is so right about these podcasts. Supercars need to pull their heads out of their ass and get their shit together. They need to be embracing these podcasts. Im so sick of their fake scripted mini showcase things they put on that are most of the time boring as batshit. Look at Nascar and all the endorsed podcasts they have. Theres
Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s Dirty Mo Media,
Actions Detrimental with Denny Hamlin,
Stacking Pennies with Corey LaJoie, All very interesting an good podcasts, Look at SVG he goes on those shows every few weeks and loves it, he says what he wants on them talks some shit, has some fun, and no one tries to crucify him for speaking his mind.
Mobile X Camaro needed a good test day before the race lot of electrical issues...
100%
Actually it may have been Dick Johnson who put Australians on the Nascar map in the 80s. He took Racecam over and while being interviewed he spun himself out and before they could react said Oh Fuck live on TV.
Example number 1 on personality is David Reynolds. Dave is 100% character. He is 100%, a great marketing person. He is like the Daniel Ricciardo of Supercars, but Supercars shut his mouth.
Dan says stuff with a smile on his face that in many cases is not F1 type speak. Dave says things that may not be politically correct, but everybody knows he is a genuine good human.
He is like a mute these days. Supercars have taken away his ability to create a persona.
To Peter's point about doing things differently; why not use the Brodie/Betty situation for good? He doesn't need a die-cut decal on a helmet to be a good ambassador for his brand. Sure, Peter claims he'll take Brodie's call going forward, but man... interesting call to excommunicate him.
great stuff
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