Seal's Kiss From a Rose is a beautiful song!!! I can't listen to it without being taken back to the summer of 95, I was in high school then. How blessed I was to be growing up in this awesome time!!!!
@@brettcooper3893 yes!! but to some degree I have to respectfully disagree. There is more to aging than a "just". With age comes experience and wisdom!! Old things such as music, movies and books were made to a different standard.
@@CPSlayer 100% true. They were so worried about anything being dark and scaring potential box office away that they likely insisted a scene be cut which made the entire movie a lot better. Fucking hollywood.
Minty should do a top ten list about Sesame Street's Follow that Bird because I heard that Elmo was originally going to have a bigger role in the movie
I know my opinion is wrapped in childhood nostalgia, but I love this movie. Even the marketing campaigns and music videos are still vivid in my brain. U2's "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me" is a jam.
My favorite story behind the making of this movie is Jones telling Carrey “I can’t sanction your buffoonery”. Because seeing how Tommy tackled the character of Two-Face, it’s ironic and hilarious 😂
He should've said "We can't sanction your buffoonery", since Two-Face is, quite literally, of 2 minds on everything (as with the preceding animated series, Harvey Dent is his much more noble half meanwhile Big Bad Harv is a combination of all of his negative aspects, thus resulting in quarrels between the 2 differing sides of his fractured personality) & often uses us/we/our rather than I/me/my when speaking about his dual identity problem.
I always thought it would have made more sense to title this film "Batman & Robin" (since Robin's introduced) and the fourth film titles "Batman Forever" (or "Batman Four-ever")
Whatever one thinks about this movie, you gotta admit that Chris O'Donnell has one of the greatest one liners ever: Robin - "Holy rusted metal, Batman!" Batman - "What?" Robin - "This metal. It's all rusted and full of holes."
i was jamming to Hold Me , Thrill Me , Kiss Me , Kill Me, before the movie came out, either on my walkman listening to the the radio on my bike or on my portable cd player with the cd of the soundtrack.
I just remember a girl I knew in high school wanted to see the doors. To this day I haven't seen it. We weren't together but I did like her and were friends. Your comment reminded me is all.
Jim Carrey mania and riding on the coat tails of the success from the first 2 sequels for sure. But it was the beginning of the end of Batman as we knew it then.
This was my first Batman Movie. My brother got the VHS for Christmas that year, and I got the Power Rangers movie. We watched both back to back for months.
This was my favorite Batman growing up. The scenes where he sees his parents die always made me sad growing up. I still can’t watch this movie anymore I just get sad.
@Kenzie J I am a huge Val Kilmer and Jim Carrey fan that might have something to do with it. I also love the dark aesthetics and the way Gotham looks. There are a lot of reasons why I like this movie. I also like the dark flashbacks it just was the one that resonated with me the most as a child I’m sorry you don’t agree with my opinion.
@Kenzie J this is one of my favorite Batman movies, unironically. I don't like how people only want to see dark batman, I enjoy campy Batman as much as the dark one, and this movie seems to be an in-between both (though leaning more towards the campy side)
@@michaelgcuk if you put it in the credits after another song, it's so removed from anything in the movie that anyone's going to watch that it's basically out of the movie for all practical purposes
I don't care what anyone thinks, I love this movie. That rave/fight scene with Robin is awesome, and when Robin saves Batman at the last second, it still gets me. Kilmer is my huckleberry🖤
I still love it. I prefer Val Kilmer to Bale's stupid voice he does when he's dressed as Batman. It gets a bad rap because Batman & Robin was soooooo bad. Plus Kidman was smoking in it🔥
who remembers the ad from the VHS of '89? "Hello, Gotham Corner Store? Yes, we seem to be down to our last Diet Coke. A gentleman is on his way to pick some up. Just look for the black car... No, this black car will be rather difficult to miss. Oh and by the way, the gentleman is usually in quite a rush."
The song kiss from a rose actually fits the movie perfectly as it is about overcoming hardship in life. “The kiss from a rose” is symbolic for a positive change of direction in one’s life. Bruce Wayne dealing with the murder of his parents, as well as Robin coping with loss of his family. Both of whom are searching for a positive outlet to fully be a part of away from their pain.
He plays the same character for almost every movie. The riddler, the mask, or any of his silly characters. They are all the same. I used to like Jim. But now he’s just a tool.
The soundtrack is bloody FANTASTIC And I would kill for all the deleted scenes APART from the hairdresser scene Kiss From A Rose... the lyrics are “you became the light on the dark side of me” it’s about Chase understanding Batman
@@filanfyretracker Man-bat is a different Batman villain, Kirk langstrom who turned himself into a giant bat creature in the same vein as Curt conners "the lizard" from the Spider-Man mythos
He actually had a pay or play contract with Warner Bros. for his role as Harvey Dent. He only took the role in '89 because he wanted to be Two-Face. When he was let go, Warner Bros. had to pay him anyway.
Billy Dee Williams himself, has said that when he did the 1989 Batman film, he was only signed for that particular movie. So the story about him having a pay or play contract regarding his role as Two-Face is really an urban legend. You can see him talk about it here th-cam.com/video/O1NXl4C9Bzs/w-d-xo.html
While I remember going absolutely nuts for this movie as a kid, I find that the older I get the less I enjoy it as it's flaws just stand out to me more now
I miss the 90s and this Batman film takes me back to a more relaxed fun time in my life. It's also the same year that Steven Kings The Langoliers was broadcast in May 1995. I think on May 14th and 15th.
This was my first Batman movie as I was born in 1986 and knew who he was but because of the age rating, my parents didn't show me the Tim Burton ones. Fast forward to today and its still one of my favourite Batman films. I think it's like James Bond, you will always prefer the film/actor of your time so for me it's Val Kilmer as Batman and Pierce Brosnan as Bond!
The Riddler has always been my favourite comic book villain and I think Jim pulled it off amazingly as a follow up to Frank Gorshin. I do feel that Robin Williams would have made a great and more sinister version of the riddler though but I'm glad we're finally going to get that with The Batman.
Ikr I jammed this CD so hard. Hands down up there with the Crow Ost amongst greats. Soundtracks were the best back then. Carried a real variety of gems of the period.
back in the 90s, every action blockbuster had a power ballad on it's soundtrack that had nothing to do with the movie itself, but still was a massive chart topper
Billy Dee Williams did reprise his role as Two Face in The Batman Lego Movie. Had Marlon Wayans played Robin, it would have been an In Living Color ( the comedy sketch show he was started in, along with Jim Carrey) connection. The comedian George Wallace, who played the mayor of Gotham, had just one line: "What the hell do you want Harvey?" The girl group En Vogue appear as ladies of the night who totally diss Robin. In the film when he's talking to Alfred, we find out what kind of cars Bruce Wayne has in his garage, a Jaguar and a Bentley.
I've met Val Kilmer socially. He's very reserved, but likewise polite and amicable. He strikes me as being quite introverted, preferring to remain focused on acting or other personal creative endeavors. I've never worked around him, however. Still, I give him two thumbs up. He's a cool dude.
It's a product of it's time, just look at Billboard, late 80s & early 90s was more grunge & metal, mid 90s was light-hearted and pop oriented, with eurodance (thus the neon overkill) and other fun careless music, that is visually pleasing, catchy, but with little thought behind it. But Forever did bring us Seals "Kiss from a Rose" so it wasn't all bad. It's fun but turn you're brain off lol
I will ALWAYS unashamedly love this movie. I don't mind defending enjoying something even if other people hate it. All art is subjective and even things that are terribly made can bring someone joy!
There is the scene when the Riddler did hang out with Two-Face and one of the girls in the white lingerie is Drew Barrymore. Jim Carrey says the line "does anyone feel like a fried egg?" while testing a gadget the Riddler invented so he can pick up Batman's brain waves and trying to discover Batman's real identity.
Keaton was my favorite batman. I remember going to the theater to see batman forever..it was cool on the big screen... Gotham looked gigantic and scary and intimidating with the large statues and scale of the buildings...I think val was a good Bruce Wayne, he is unique as an actor
I'd agree. I think Val Kilmer is a very underrated actor on the whole, and had he had a darker Batman project to work with, say a Burton or even Nolan-esque style, then I think he would have suited that a lot more and we would have seen him in the role a lot more over the years.
@@mws755 No, he's not. Michael Keaton & Adam West are THE definitive respective grimdark & campy Batman portrayals. Likewise, Kevin Conroy IS Batman in animated media. The end. Val Kilmer & George Clooney sit at the loser's table.
It isn't entirely fair to blame Schumacher, as it was Warner Bros, not Schumacher who insisted on the more campy, light-hearted Batman. Schumacher wrote a script called Batman Triumphant, which was going to be the final part of his trilogy and was much darker. Also Forever saw that the previous Billy-Dee Williams, Harvey Dent had some awful accident and turned into Tommy Lee Jones! Hideous. Also led to some critics complain that Batman Forever was 'Whiteout Batman'. Of course you also have Jim Carey playing... well Jim Carey as always.
It is a pity that Burton did not make the third film about Batman. This movie is cartoonish and in lighter tone than Burton's movies, but I think that Val Kilmer was nice as Batman. Also, I like the songs by U2 and Seal.
I remember when that movie came out in theaters. My bro Chris was so pissed a the movie that when the batmobile drives up the wall he punched me in the shoulder and walked out the theater angrily.
I just watched it today before I saw this top ten. This version is more like the 60's version. I loved it. Val Kilmer was fantastic😄P.S rest in peace Frank Gorshon.
Huh, in that new Harley Quinn animated series Riddler is bald save for a question mark tattooed on his head, I wonder if Jim Carey's idea here inspired that
I enjoy watching your videos then watching the movie after to see it from a different perspective. Planned to watch this movie tonight so Im stoked. Thank you!!!
Forever is still just as good as it was when it came out. Even if it felt campy, there are deep psychological aspects to the movie. Also, the story isn't just a Batman movie, but also a Bruce Wayne movie. Not only that, but there's references to past Batman/Superman characters, along with a nod to a real life person.
19:22 I randomly met Seal while standing in line at the Burbank Frys Electronics store back in the late 90s. He was super cool and even helped me choose which USB connector I should buy! I asked him about 'Kiss from a Rose' and his albums (which my wife and I listened to all the time when we were dating in college) Great days back in LA, I miss that store.
I would say that it should be a sequel and the reason I had is the same as when I was a kid. Alfred. He is the same actor in all four movies before Nolan and bale. They changed every character but him.
A rebellious teenage 30 year old LOL 😂... i’m not sure if you’re being literal because the actor is old and they’re trying to portray him as a teenager or if he is just a 30-year-old that acts like a teenager. I think it’s more the latter due to the writing
Wait! Batman Forever lover here. I will defend Joel until the day I die. Batman Forever’s deleted scenes were all Joel’s idea, not Burton. Burton just approved of Joel making Batman Forever then left. Had Joel been allowed to do Batman Forever the way he wanted it, think we would have had the best Batman movie of that era. For those of you curious, Batman Forever can be found in its full glory in the novelisation written by Peter David or the audiobook which can be found on TH-cam. Pity Joel never got to see his darker cut released by at least the audiobook on TH-cam is as close to the darker cut being released as we’re going to get
Agreed, Batman Forever was a good movie. It wasn’t the best Batman movie, but was still good. The first movie in 1989 was the best Batman movie, but I Did Not care for Batman Returns. That wasn’t even a Batman movie, it was a Tim Burton movie… it was literally a repeat of Edward Scissorhands with the Penguin. It wasn’t about Batman. It was a horror movie and the soundtrack didn’t help either. Batman Forever was a nice refreshing change from the dark gothic persona that Batman Returns was. But Batman and Robin was an ABOMINATION and the worst Batman movie ever
the Bat-Card. I never leave home without it. Batman & Robin should have been called Batman Ruined. Adam West pulled off campy like a master. Clooney, not so much.
I like Val Kilmer, even more as 2008 Mustang GT500KR. Minty, have you seen "Batman vs The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"? I thought it was an absolute blast!
I was 14 when this movie came out and after growing up with the Burton movies, I hated Batman Forever. The whole thing was just too much, the neon lights, the over acting, the music, Jim Carreys flap of leg fat that shakes when he kicks his leg out...all of it.
Yeah that's a really low bar though mate 😂 while this is clearly a huge step down from the Burton films, I think it's honestly a perfectly serviceable Batman film. Thats about the best I can say about it
I remember at the time it was released, there was a statement that Michael Keaton refused to do the 3rd one because he didn't want to be typecast. True or not, I have no idea. And I've heard for years that Kilmer was hard to work with, but watched an interview with Michael Biehn, who starred opposite him in Tombstone, and he said it wasn't true for him. He did acknowledge that Kilmer (and himself) tended toward perfectionism, so maybe that's one of the problems. He described their rehearsal for the final gunfight between Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo as taking a whole day, and both of them wanted it that way. It is definitely an awesome scene.
5:06 I imagine that Burton was basically a producer in name only for Batman Forever. That sometimes happens as a sort of consolation prize for filmmakers who get turned down for directing a film (i.e. Joe Dante with The Phantom, and Jack Conrad with The Howling).
I notice that when you're having a bad day, Minty almost always will somehow know to post a video of amazing trivia to take your mind off the bullshit. How do you do it, Minty? Lol
I heard Kevin Smith saying on Fatman Beyond that he spoke to someone who works at Warner Bros and they said that there is a much longer and far darker version of Batman Forever in their vault. He said it has the original beginning at Arkham Asylum and the giant bat vision/dream is in it aswell the other deleted scenes and other scenes not seen anywhere else. I've heard of a fan cut called- Batman Forever: The Red Book Edition. It apparently has all the deleted scenes added in and is supposed to be very good. On Twitter there has been a hashtag movement when Joel Schumacher passed for WB to release the longer version in a mark of respect for him and the fans but not much has came of it. #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
Read Peter Capstick's book on it, which is mostly a reprint of the original Patterson tale. The book is MORE terrifying than the movie was! The movie was pretty well done as well.
I'm sure I read somewhere that H.R. Giger was really pissed off with this film because when he handed in his concepts for the batmobile they told him they were "going in a different direction." But if you look at the final product it is clearly Giger influenced and he contested that he could have gave them something similar, if not better if they had gave him direction.
Love the videos Minty! I’d love to see videos on The Dirt Bike Kid, Gleaming the Cube, Thrashin, and Youngblood if you needed some suggestions! Although I’m sure you already have a laundry list of movies to work on already
This movie was hands down my favorite at the time. We watched it all the time. I remember being so excited about Batman and Robin because I loved this one so much. Went to the theaters opening day and 10 min in when the ice skates popped out of his boots I was done.
Seal's Kiss From a Rose is a beautiful song!!! I can't listen to it without being taken back to the summer of 95, I was in high school then. How blessed I was to be growing up in this awesome time!!!!
95 was probably an awesome time to be in high school.
@@berzerkbankie1342 It really was!!!! I will always remember!!!
In 95 I was barely 3 years old 😆
That just means we're old.
@@brettcooper3893 yes!! but to some degree I have to respectfully disagree. There is more to aging than a "just". With age comes experience and wisdom!! Old things such as music, movies and books were made to a different standard.
That deleted scene with the bat is amazing and changed the entire dynamic of the movie. The fact that it was removed is an absolute crime.
Warner Bros for ya
@@CPSlayer 100% true. They were so worried about anything being dark and scaring potential box office away that they likely insisted a scene be cut which made the entire movie a lot better. Fucking hollywood.
MY ASS changed
Dynamics when it farts liquid ACIDIC DIARRHEA that smells like methane and sulphur from hell
I remember seeing a trailer with the giant bat and thinking that we were getting Man-Bat
@@justice4049 Man-Bat was rumored to appear in Batman Triumphant as a monster created by the Scarecrow
'A rebellious teenage 30-year old'. LOL that was a good one.
That’s just what I am!!!
Chris was actually 25 during filming, but who is counting? XD
Scary Movie summed it up best: "If this were a movie... We'd be played by actors in their late 20s/early 30s".
Minty should do a top ten list about Sesame Street's Follow that Bird because I heard that Elmo was originally going to have a bigger role in the movie
I know my opinion is wrapped in childhood nostalgia, but I love this movie. Even the marketing campaigns and music videos are still vivid in my brain. U2's "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me" is a jam.
I remember recording those music videos on vhs tape off off VH1. Those videos were badass.
I agree I still love it always wanted a secret tunnel under my desk
@@brettbaratheon9776 hahahaha me too
Thats an amazing song
Don't forget the Seal - Kiss From A Rose.
1:36 "A rebellious, teenaged 30 year old."
Minty, you minx 😂😂😂
I had to rewind it three times!🤣🤣🤣
Scary Movie summed it up best: "If this were a movie... We'd be played by actors in their late 20s/early 30s".
He did say that hilarious af😂😂💀
Just like in the 60s beach movies
Like the Grease cast
My favorite story behind the making of this movie is Jones telling Carrey “I can’t sanction your buffoonery”. Because seeing how Tommy tackled the character of Two-Face, it’s ironic and hilarious 😂
He should've said "We can't sanction your buffoonery", since Two-Face is, quite literally, of 2 minds on everything (as with the preceding animated series, Harvey Dent is his much more noble half meanwhile Big Bad Harv is a combination of all of his negative aspects, thus resulting in quarrels between the 2 differing sides of his fractured personality) & often uses us/we/our rather than I/me/my when speaking about his dual identity problem.
I always thought it would have made more sense to title this film "Batman & Robin" (since Robin's introduced) and the fourth film titles "Batman Forever" (or "Batman Four-ever")
or "4Ever"?
Fourth film should have been Batman Whatever
Whatever one thinks about this movie, you gotta admit that Chris O'Donnell has one of the greatest one liners ever:
Robin - "Holy rusted metal, Batman!"
Batman - "What?"
Robin - "This metal. It's all rusted and full of holes."
"You know, holey"
Literally the one line I remember from the movie
I remember reading an article that mentioned that Robin Williams was going to be cast as the Riddler and Michael J Fox as Robin.
I always wanted him to say Hooollllyy... S#!t! I think that would have been a hip, non-corny way to pay homage`.
I could've sworn I heard someone grown at that line in the theater. Like, Oh no!
The first CD I ever owned was the soundtrack to Batman Forever.
And I still love _Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me_ and _Kiss From a Rose._
The whole soundtrack was great. Offspring’s cover of Smash It Up!
i was jamming to Hold Me , Thrill Me , Kiss Me , Kill Me, before the movie came out, either on my walkman listening to the the radio on my bike or on my portable cd player with the cd of the soundtrack.
It’s my favorite movie soundtrack next to Pulp Fiction
The soundtrack is great , I love the nick cave song and the method man one
And the Michael hutchence cover
Gosh no mention of the gust of wind of the heavy the beginning is the end. Hmmm😤
Robin cruising in the Batmobile saying "Come check out my love machine, baby." always makes me laugh.
Hooker 1: Wait a minute. That's NOT Batman!
Hooker 2: No, that's BAT-BOY!!!🤣
@@Facade953 "I forgot my suit, alright?"
"Jim Morrison was right... about everything." I guess that is an inside joke as Val Kilmer played Jim Morrison in the Doors movie.
Yeah, I'm actually quite surprised he didn't mention anything about that
@@chrisjimenez2192^thiss!! I was looking for this comment!
OMG, you're right!
I just remember a girl I knew in high school wanted to see the doors. To this day I haven't seen it. We weren't together but I did like her and were friends. Your comment reminded me is all.
didn't the surviving members of the Doors absolutely hate that movie?
I think the success had a lot to do with Jim Carrey mania at that time
Too bad they nixed someone much. more timeless
@@fastinradfordable what? Lol
You’re 100# correct. No one pass the age of 13 like this film.
@@vhscopyofseinfeld it certainly didn't age well lol I loved it as a kid.... but I was under 13 as well lol
Jim Carrey mania and riding on the coat tails of the success from the first 2 sequels for sure. But it was the beginning of the end of Batman as we knew it then.
"It's the Car, chicks dig the car." Minty Forever, yeh.
...from B & R (1997) 🎥😕
Both movies used that line
and thats why superman works alone
@@andrewgrove1691 no they didnt
Alfred: “ He took the car, sir....no sir, the other car... no sir, the OTHER car.”
I loved sugar and spice..Debbie and Drew were so gorgeous in those roles.
This was my first Batman Movie. My brother got the VHS for Christmas that year, and I got the Power Rangers movie. We watched both back to back for months.
The thing is mom owned the actual VCR player so you were both nothing without her.
That's child abuse, isn't it?
Good Times
@@unnamedchannel1237 Well I was like 5, so...
@@Goldenbane XD
This was my favorite Batman growing up. The scenes where he sees his parents die always made me sad growing up. I still can’t watch this movie anymore I just get sad.
@Kenzie J why do you disown me and why am I insane?
@Kenzie J I am a huge Val Kilmer and Jim Carrey fan that might have something to do with it. I also love the dark aesthetics and the way Gotham looks. There are a lot of reasons why I like this movie. I also like the dark flashbacks it just was the one that resonated with me the most as a child I’m sorry you don’t agree with my opinion.
@Kenzie J this is one of my favorite Batman movies, unironically. I don't like how people only want to see dark batman, I enjoy campy Batman as much as the dark one, and this movie seems to be an in-between both (though leaning more towards the campy side)
19:43 Actually Kiss from A Rose DOES appear in the movie. It plays during the end credits, after U2's song.
So, lol, not really in the movie.
@@RabbitsInBlack The credits are part of the movie
@@michaelgcuk if you put it in the credits after another song, it's so removed from anything in the movie that anyone's going to watch that it's basically out of the movie for all practical purposes
Easter egg.
That song was not original he took the melody from a video game.
I don't care what anyone thinks, I love this movie. That rave/fight scene with Robin is awesome, and when Robin saves Batman at the last second, it still gets me. Kilmer is my huckleberry🖤
This is still, to date, my favorite Batman movie.
@@megantouchton4636 there's just some magic about it. I mean Batman and Robin just blows, but Batman Forever is definitely forever🖤
@@megantouchton4636 yes I don’t care what anybody says, Batman Forever was a good movie.
I still love it. I prefer Val Kilmer to Bale's stupid voice he does when he's dressed as Batman. It gets a bad rap because Batman & Robin was soooooo bad. Plus Kidman was smoking in it🔥
I love this movie too
Alfred: "Could I persuade you to take a sandwich with you, Minty?"
Minty: "I'll get drive thru."
haha I remember that ad (minus Minty)
who remembers the ad from the VHS of '89?
"Hello, Gotham Corner Store? Yes, we seem to be down to our last Diet Coke. A gentleman is on his way to pick some up. Just look for the black car... No, this black car will be rather difficult to miss. Oh and by the way, the gentleman is usually in quite a rush."
I remember this scene being used for a fast-food outlet (McDonald's or Burger King) who were selling "Batman Forever" toys with the food.
@@dhenderson1810 it was McDonalds.
@@ab5olut3zero95 yea McDonald's also had those awesome naan cups. Man I loved those.
The song kiss from a rose actually fits the movie perfectly as it is about overcoming hardship in life. “The kiss from a rose” is symbolic for a positive change of direction in one’s life.
Bruce Wayne dealing with the murder of his parents, as well as Robin coping with loss of his family. Both of whom are searching for a positive outlet to fully be a part of away from their pain.
If Jim Carrey played the Joker, his performance would've been exactly the same.
What if robin williams played the joker and Jim carrey had to exchange dialogue with him. They would had comic gold
He plays the same character for almost every movie. The riddler, the mask, or any of his silly characters. They are all the same. I used to like Jim. But now he’s just a tool.
Jim Carrey as Joker really 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that hilarious.
And somewhat similar to Hamill's Joker!
90s Carrey would be a perfect Joker if were still living in the Silver Age
Gomez Addams played The Riddler a bit on that show too, and did a solid, though less manic job of it.
I love this film! People don't like it. But back in 1995, it looked refreshingly new and just what was wanted for a summer movie.
Yeah i would agree
I agree as well
It was refreshing new and I loved it then and now
Agreed.
The soundtrack is bloody FANTASTIC
And I would kill for all the deleted scenes APART from the hairdresser scene
Kiss From A Rose... the lyrics are “you became the light on the dark side of me” it’s about Chase understanding Batman
I always thought that "Giant Bat Demon" was supposed to be a cameo by Man-Bat.
is Man-Bat the name for Bat-Boy from Weekly World News now that he would be all grown up?
@@filanfyretracker Man-bat is a different Batman villain, Kirk langstrom who turned himself into a giant bat creature in the same vein as Curt conners "the lizard" from the Spider-Man mythos
@@captainhyrule9741 and he's a very deep, tragic, and generally sympathetic character-kind of like Sandman in 'Spiderman 3'-
"Batman..ahhh" - we'll never unsee/unhear than from now on
Billy Dee Williams was gonna return to the role of Harvey Dent, but turned it down due to a payment dispute.
In all fairness to the awesomeness of Billy Dee, that was probably for the best.
He actually had a pay or play contract with Warner Bros. for his role as Harvey Dent. He only took the role in '89 because he wanted to be Two-Face. When he was let go, Warner Bros. had to pay him anyway.
At least he played Two-Face in the Lego Batman movie.
@@wstine79 I hadn't seen it yet. He really played him? Cool!
Billy Dee Williams himself, has said that when he did the 1989 Batman film, he was only signed for that particular movie. So the story about him having a pay or play contract regarding his role as Two-Face is really an urban legend. You can see him talk about it here th-cam.com/video/O1NXl4C9Bzs/w-d-xo.html
While I remember going absolutely nuts for this movie as a kid, I find that the older I get the less I enjoy it as it's flaws just stand out to me more now
I miss the 90s and this Batman film takes me back to a more relaxed fun time in my life. It's also the same year that Steven Kings The Langoliers was broadcast in May 1995. I think on May 14th and 15th.
This was my first Batman movie as I was born in 1986 and knew who he was but because of the age rating, my parents didn't show me the Tim Burton ones. Fast forward to today and its still one of my favourite Batman films. I think it's like James Bond, you will always prefer the film/actor of your time so for me it's Val Kilmer as Batman and Pierce Brosnan as Bond!
"Minty Forever"
A Mark Bishop lifetime production ♡
The Riddler has always been my favourite comic book villain and I think Jim pulled it off amazingly as a follow up to Frank Gorshin. I do feel that Robin Williams would have made a great and more sinister version of the riddler though but I'm glad we're finally going to get that with The Batman.
Back when movie soundtracks were really good and important too upsell a movie
Because you could listen in a car.
Ikr I jammed this CD so hard. Hands down up there with the Crow Ost amongst greats. Soundtracks were the best back then. Carried a real variety of gems of the period.
Same with movie novelizations.... Good shit
That soundtrack was made to sell a soundtrack, not enhance the movie. But it happened to do both.
back in the 90s, every action blockbuster had a power ballad on it's soundtrack that had nothing to do with the movie itself, but still was a massive chart topper
Billy Dee Williams did reprise his role as Two Face in The Batman Lego Movie.
Had Marlon Wayans played Robin, it would have been an In Living Color ( the comedy sketch show he was started in, along with Jim Carrey) connection.
The comedian George Wallace, who played the mayor of Gotham, had just one line: "What the hell do you want Harvey?"
The girl group En Vogue appear as ladies of the night who totally diss Robin.
In the film when he's talking to Alfred, we find out what kind of cars Bruce Wayne has in his garage, a Jaguar and a Bentley.
I've met Val Kilmer socially. He's very reserved, but likewise polite and amicable. He strikes me as being quite introverted, preferring to remain focused on acting or other personal creative endeavors. I've never worked around him, however. Still, I give him two thumbs up. He's a cool dude.
He's my favorite actor. I wish I could meet him.
really wish batman had remained in the hands of burton&keaton, just love that balance dark humor and crazy.
It's a product of it's time, just look at Billboard, late 80s & early 90s was more grunge & metal, mid 90s was light-hearted and pop oriented, with eurodance (thus the neon overkill) and other fun careless music, that is visually pleasing, catchy, but with little thought behind it. But Forever did bring us Seals "Kiss from a Rose" so it wasn't all bad. It's fun but turn you're brain off lol
I will ALWAYS unashamedly love this movie. I don't mind defending enjoying something even if other people hate it. All art is subjective and even things that are terribly made can bring someone joy!
“Holy rusted metal Batman” can only be homage to the 60’s tv show
That's exactly what it was
That was the best line in the movie. I remember busting out laughing in the theater when Robin said that.
He goes huh, holes you know, it’s holy.
no fucking shit. Really, it took you 25 years to figure this out? Can you guess last week's lotter numbers for me too????
No crap Sherlock
I love that Minty is pointing out that random dude... “Batman!!... Aaaah!” Hilarious! I do remember that scene & thought... awkward 😂🤣👀
One of my childhood fave movies! And HUGE congrats for 350K !
Val Killer portrayed Jim Morrison in the movie The Doors.
“Jim Morrison! Aaaaah!”
@@oaf-77 😂
The direcrectors cut of this movie could be kinda cool much darker tone
Dude had it stayed as dark as returns,and kept keaton it would probably be the best 90s Batman film
Holy rusted metal Batman! Thanks Minty
I’ve hated the “Batman ahhhh” guy for years
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There is the scene when the Riddler did hang out with Two-Face and one of the girls in the white lingerie is Drew Barrymore. Jim Carrey says the line "does anyone feel like a fried egg?" while testing a gadget the Riddler invented so he can pick up Batman's brain waves and trying to discover Batman's real identity.
Sugar was indeed Drew Barrymore, and Spice was Debi Mazar. Debi's main gig now is cooking Italian food with her husband on TV.
I don’t think Val gets enough credit for his portrayal but of course he’s no comparison to Keaton!
I think he's a better Bruce Wayne than Keaton, but not as good as Batman.
Keaton was my favorite batman. I remember going to the theater to see batman forever..it was cool on the big screen... Gotham looked gigantic and scary and intimidating with the large statues and scale of the buildings...I think val was a good Bruce Wayne, he is unique as an actor
I'd agree. I think Val Kilmer is a very underrated actor on the whole, and had he had a darker Batman project to work with, say a Burton or even Nolan-esque style, then I think he would have suited that a lot more and we would have seen him in the role a lot more over the years.
He's better than Keaton
@@mws755 No, he's not. Michael Keaton & Adam West are THE definitive respective grimdark & campy Batman portrayals. Likewise, Kevin Conroy IS Batman in animated media. The end. Val Kilmer & George Clooney sit at the loser's table.
It isn't entirely fair to blame Schumacher, as it was Warner Bros, not Schumacher who insisted on the more campy, light-hearted Batman. Schumacher wrote a script called Batman Triumphant, which was going to be the final part of his trilogy and was much darker. Also Forever saw that the previous Billy-Dee Williams, Harvey Dent had some awful accident and turned into Tommy Lee Jones! Hideous. Also led to some critics complain that Batman Forever was 'Whiteout Batman'. Of course you also have Jim Carey playing... well Jim Carey as always.
Moonraker was my favorite Bond film for a long time
It is a pity that Burton did not make the third film about Batman. This movie is cartoonish and in lighter tone than Burton's movies, but I think that Val Kilmer was nice as Batman. Also, I like the songs by U2 and Seal.
This awesome movie was cartoonish but I liked the cheesy music. What a bitch.
Yeah it was good for the time nostalgic for sure
Smooth Criminal Trickster. You have earned my respect as well as my like!
Nicely done, sir.
I remember when that movie came out in theaters. My bro Chris was so pissed a the movie that when the batmobile drives up the wall he punched me in the shoulder and walked out the theater angrily.
Is Chris in prison now?
@@unnamedchannel1237 no, even worse. He is a born again christian.
This made me laugh boy.
@@frontandcenter7941 Boy? I'm 40.
@@OmarBhoo So what. You're a girl? I'm almost your age also.
I just watched it today before I saw this top ten. This version is more like the 60's version. I loved it. Val Kilmer was fantastic😄P.S rest in peace Frank Gorshon.
I like Carrey but Gorshin will always be the true Riddler to me
What about Michael Gough.
Always liked this one. It’s fun as hell.
I like it too IT thing val Kilmer Is the best Batman
@@leonsstudio1150 hahaha troll man I love you
@@sjf1981 but reálly i thing val Kilmer is the best Batman
Saw this on the big screen 6 times
The continuity of Harvey Dent going from Billie Dee Williams to Tommy Lee Jones is astounding!
I think it shows that Batman Forever is not in Tim Burtons Batman universe.
Huh, in that new Harley Quinn animated series Riddler is bald save for a question mark tattooed on his head, I wonder if Jim Carey's idea here inspired that
Th at was supposedly Robin William's idea.
I enjoy watching your videos then watching the movie after to see it from a different perspective. Planned to watch this movie tonight so Im stoked. Thank you!!!
"I'm Batman"-Batman
MINTY COMEDIC ARTS!! AAAHHHHHHH!!! Kiss by a Rose has to be one of my favourite songs.
Forever is still just as good as it was when it came out.
Even if it felt campy, there are deep psychological aspects to the movie. Also, the story isn't just a Batman movie, but also a Bruce Wayne movie.
Not only that, but there's references to past Batman/Superman characters, along with a nod to a real life person.
19:22 I randomly met Seal while standing in line at the Burbank Frys Electronics store back in the late 90s. He was super cool and even helped me choose which USB connector I should buy! I asked him about 'Kiss from a Rose' and his albums (which my wife and I listened to all the time when we were dating in college) Great days back in LA, I miss that store.
I would say that it should be a sequel and the reason I had is the same as when I was a kid. Alfred. He is the same actor in all four movies before Nolan and bale. They changed every character but him.
And Pat Hingle as Gordon
I never realized it was thought of as anything but a sequel. As you said, we had Alfred & commissioner Gordon.
John Astin (Gomez Addams) also played Riddler in the 1960's series.
Frank Gorshin was the best!
A rebellious teenage 30 year old LOL 😂... i’m not sure if you’re being literal because the actor is old and they’re trying to portray him as a teenager or if he is just a 30-year-old that acts like a teenager. I think it’s more the latter due to the writing
Frank Gorshin, the greatest RIDDLER EVER!!
RIP Frank
"I see without seeing. To me, darkness is as clear as daylight. What am I?"
A mole.
Bat
You're as blind as a bat!
Pllllllleeeeease you're as blind as a bat !
Penguin.
Best line of the film
'It's boiling acid' 😂😂😂
I actually loved this movie and jim carrey was an inspired choice as Riddler.
Deleted scenes from the movie were used in the U2 video for Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me.
“BATMAN AHHHHG!”
Wait! Batman Forever lover here. I will defend Joel until the day I die. Batman Forever’s deleted scenes were all Joel’s idea, not Burton. Burton just approved of Joel making Batman Forever then left. Had Joel been allowed to do Batman Forever the way he wanted it, think we would have had the best Batman movie of that era.
For those of you curious, Batman Forever can be found in its full glory in the novelisation written by Peter David or the audiobook which can be found on TH-cam.
Pity Joel never got to see his darker cut released by at least the audiobook on TH-cam is as close to the darker cut being released as we’re going to get
Agreed, Batman Forever was a good movie. It wasn’t the best Batman movie, but was still good. The first movie in 1989 was the best Batman movie, but I Did Not care for Batman Returns. That wasn’t even a Batman movie, it was a Tim Burton movie… it was literally a repeat of Edward Scissorhands with the Penguin. It wasn’t about Batman.
It was a horror movie and the soundtrack didn’t help either. Batman Forever was a nice refreshing change from the dark gothic persona that Batman Returns was. But Batman and Robin was an ABOMINATION and the worst Batman movie ever
This should have been "& Robin" because it introduces Robin, his crime fighting partner, and the next should've been Forever as it expands the Batfam
They messed the titles up on these
Idk I think either or works for each one
@@dustinallday4383 when i was younger i always thought they mis-matched the titles
I remember it being Batman and Robin 😂 mandela effect 🤔
the Bat-Card. I never leave home without it.
Batman & Robin should have been called Batman Ruined.
Adam West pulled off campy like a master. Clooney, not so much.
"A Kiss From A Rose" WAS in the movie... in the closing crdits.
That extra sounds like the oldest winner from the Make-A-Wish Foundation.
That's brutal. But yes
I like Val Kilmer, even more as 2008 Mustang GT500KR.
Minty, have you seen "Batman vs The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"? I thought it was an absolute blast!
I was 14 when this movie came out and after growing up with the Burton movies, I hated Batman Forever. The whole thing was just too much, the neon lights, the over acting, the music, Jim Carreys flap of leg fat that shakes when he kicks his leg out...all of it.
wtf????
Ugh. That mental image of Jim Carrey's leg fat triggered my fight or flight response.
@@dvt1393 ...
Lol, glad it wasn’t just me.
9:23 - HOLY SHIT!!!... I never knew that!... I friggin' love your videos bc I *ALWAYS* learn _AT LEAST_ one thing in each video you put out
This is still okay compared to Batman and Robin
That’s like comparing puke to the runs.
Yeah that's a really low bar though mate 😂 while this is clearly a huge step down from the Burton films, I think it's honestly a perfectly serviceable Batman film. Thats about the best I can say about it
I remember at the time it was released, there was a statement that Michael Keaton refused to do the 3rd one because he didn't want to be typecast. True or not, I have no idea. And I've heard for years that Kilmer was hard to work with, but watched an interview with Michael Biehn, who starred opposite him in Tombstone, and he said it wasn't true for him. He did acknowledge that Kilmer (and himself) tended toward perfectionism, so maybe that's one of the problems. He described their rehearsal for the final gunfight between Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo as taking a whole day, and both of them wanted it that way. It is definitely an awesome scene.
Please do one on the underworld movies.
5:06 I imagine that Burton was basically a producer in name only for Batman Forever. That sometimes happens as a sort of consolation prize for filmmakers who get turned down for directing a film (i.e. Joe Dante with The Phantom, and Jack Conrad with The Howling).
I notice that when you're having a bad day, Minty almost always will somehow know to post a video of amazing trivia to take your mind off the bullshit. How do you do it, Minty? Lol
I heard Kevin Smith saying on Fatman Beyond that he spoke to someone who works at Warner Bros and they said that there is a much longer and far darker version of Batman Forever in their vault. He said it has the original beginning at Arkham Asylum and the giant bat vision/dream is in it aswell the other deleted scenes and other scenes not seen anywhere else.
I've heard of a fan cut called- Batman Forever: The Red Book Edition.
It apparently has all the deleted scenes added in and is supposed to be very good.
On Twitter there has been a hashtag movement when Joel Schumacher passed for WB to release the longer version in a mark of respect for him and the fans but not much has came of it.
#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
The ghosts in the darkness was an amazing movie. Can you do a 10 things on that?
That was a good movie!
That would be great! I loved that movie.
Read Peter Capstick's book on it, which is mostly a reprint of the original Patterson tale. The book is MORE terrifying than the movie was! The movie was pretty well done as well.
any fans of Bob Gymlan?
@@Viking_Luchador Bob Gymlan is great!
Moonraker is a great movie ;-)
I'm sure I read somewhere that H.R. Giger was really pissed off with this film because when he handed in his concepts for the batmobile they told him they were "going in a different direction." But if you look at the final product it is clearly Giger influenced and he contested that he could have gave them something similar, if not better if they had gave him direction.
Love the videos Minty! I’d love to see videos on The Dirt Bike Kid, Gleaming the Cube, Thrashin, and Youngblood if you needed some suggestions! Although I’m sure you already have a laundry list of movies to work on already
The guy yelling Batman is like when people is Japan yell when they see Godzilla. That's probably what Schumacher was going for lol.
Yeah I still love these movies I'm Batman fanatic lol
Very underrated
I think this was a really fun movie. Very rewatchable, and has a great cast.
Forever is not shoddy work，but a real gem with the Gothic mythos weaved in
Get off drugs buddy
While it's not exactly Tombstone or Goodfellas, it's-- fortunately-- not Howard the Duck. : )
The soundtrack is a classic! I still listen to my promo vinyl copy all the time.
This movie is underrated. It is not as good as the original Tim Burton Batman movie, but it is still a fun and enjoyable movie.
It's garbage.
I agree it’s underrated. A lot of people say it’s the worst movie ever, but it’s more like the second worst
@@the_librarian4400 first worst
This movie was hands down my favorite at the time. We watched it all the time. I remember being so excited about Batman and Robin because I loved this one so much. Went to the theaters opening day and 10 min in when the ice skates popped out of his boots I was done.
The SNES and Genesis games were pretty good.
Funny, that is what mom said about minty
No, no they were not. Have you played them?
*Triggered"
Both pretty horrible really. Haha. The controls still haunt me
batman forever is a guilty pleasure of mine...and i’ve still got the action figures.
That one scene almost killed the movie lol along with the cheesy sound effects, and “oh no it’s boiling acid “, Tommy Lee jones over acting 😂
I think Tommy Lee Jones was trying to be more elaborate and wacky than Jim Carrey.
Wayne Knight was supposed to play a security guard
Hey Minty. I think many would agree that now is a good time for 10 Things You Didn’t Know About Mortal Kombat (1995).
He already did it and he already did this in the past that’s why I’m un sub if continue realse old videos
@@playstationgen2133 he's doing this, because there is copyright issues, so he has to re-edit and re-upload.
@@chefkdowg oh I didn’t know that sorry because I through tell us like did in the past ok
He already did? My bad.
Anyways, I just watched the new Mortal Kombat. Wasn’t good. Many would be disappointed.