That’s a cop out. Because that implies that these alleged rapes actually occurred, and so far, not one victim has stepped forward to levy these accusations regarding October 7th. The only accusations have been levied by the state of Israel itself, and distributed these accusations via state propaganda, and the only evidence they’ve offered up in support of these claims have been 34 reports taken from attendees of the Nova Music Festival, none of whom report having seen the alleged assaults happen, only offering sounds they say they heard, and vibes they got, to substantiate their claims, and absolutely no video footage of said alleged assaults has ever come to light if such footage even exists, in the case that such assaults even happened. Keep in mind that there is no shortage of footage of straight up murder, and hiding in the brush, and camping out in the places from where these purported “witnesses” say they heard what they feel like sounded like what they imagine a sexual assault would sound like, but I guess none of them thought to pull their phones back out, and record what they thought they heard happening, or even peak their head to see if someone was in distress, what was distressing them, and if it was possible for them to run to their aid, or not. But again, plenty of head peaking, and footage of gunmen straight up murdering fools. And nevermind that Israel is a surveillance state that’s equipped either satellite technology that can zoom in on a Hamas gunman and count the number of scraggly hairs on the left side of his nutsack, and every inch of Israel is covered by CCTV. Just trust Israel, bro.
Also just ignore the centuries of historic racial violence that came in the form of terror bombings, lynch mobbings, and something you wouldn’t be remiss to label as taking on the appearance, the shape, and sharing the nature of a pogrom, not to mention actual other historical colonial massacres, all of which had been firmly planted in “savage rape hysteria” stemming from false accusations, typically, some aggrieved white lady made up for attention, probably, if not specifically for the purpose of harming black people, or Native Americans, most typically, in the context of American history, at least. Look up the circumstances that surrounded the 1921 airborne firebombing of Black Wall Street, and the surrounding Greenwood district, also known as the Tulsa Race massacre, but you can probably guess what incited a white mob in a klan city to team up with local police and drop explosives from the seat of prop planes overhead, and take to the rooftops of black owned businesses they ransacked, so they could pick off members of this most affluent black community that had risen up in spite of the odds, and burn down 90% of the homes, churchs, and businesses, and nah. Dick Rowland didn’t rape nobody, neither. And truthfully, the violence of October 7th was never an incitement for anything Israel has done to Gaza. It’s the excuse. Those Israeli people didn’t need a reason to do what they were primed to do. They needed permission.
@@PunkiBroosterthere is at least one credible claim. Arguing whether it happened or not is pure distraction. Just condemn sexual violence and move on. Hasan did it right
And assuming that those mass grapes did occur on October 7th by hamas and that it does delegitimize their rebellion, then following that same line of thinking doesn’t that mean Israel’s entire campaign in Gaza is delegitimized? Because they have literal grape camps being used in Israel to house Palestinians “suspected” of being hamas. If grape delegitimizes a war in his eyes does that mean he should condemn Israel’s campaign far more since it happens on a wider scale.
yeah the kid must have run through the “debate” in his head like a hundred times in the days leading up to this, and none of those imagined scenarios prepared him for how bad it actually went haha
I study with the Cambridge curriculum in highschool, I'm surprised cuz Cambridge does teach you to do your own research, especially in history, and Israel Palestine is covered in the curriculum in gcse and a level....... LIKE CAMBRIDGE COVERED AMERICAN WAR CRIMES DURING THE COLD WAR and covered Britain's complicity to nzi Germany
the most reasonable take on this is that you can say the killings of civilians by hamas was evil but to a relatively high degree expected, not that it's okay, but any of these liberals who are like "what Hamas did is evil, but somehow Israel doing the same but worse is not evil because it's retaliation" when what Hamas did was also retaliation, their argument falls apart in the face of reality I remember saying this in a liberal thread and most of them agreed with me, because a lot of liberals have unexamined takes on this that when they take a closer look at, it kinda pushes them a bit to the left
It's just the reality of young kids in uni. They overestimate what they know, get older, learn more, then realise how big the world is and gain perspective and mellow out
They usually call into MR with the whole glazin' strategy.. "I've listened to you for a while" or "I'm a conservative, but I like you for some reason.." Fkn Roads!? How do they work?
Why is that a problem? It's critical reasoning, no? You could assess every position of a group of people you usually agree with and disagree with a few od their positions. Or am I interpreting this wrong?
I just...want to tell him its going to be okay? idk? his anxiety made me feel so bad for him. That's the world he lives in. This makes me hate destiny even more. These are real people he's mindmelted and sent into the "war against hasan". I get why Hasan says he wishes them well.
@@hauz287tbh i dont think its fair to call this kid a destiny fan bc this narrative about hasan that ORIGINATED from destiny is now pretty commonplace in other spaces too. He mightve watched some drama channel video on hasan and was close by and decided to stop by and talk to him.
@@bingusenjoyer197Notice how I never called him a destiny fan but someone who was consumed by the rhetoric destiny created? Because I sure did. He's still a POS for doing that.
@@bingusenjoyer197I never called him a fan of Destiny but rather someone who was victim to his rhetoric. This diligneation isn't productive. Destiny is still a P 0 S.
Okay at first I thought this guy was just a regular student who had misunderstandings about Hasan. And then he started listing off all the points Destiny’s community wanted to get Hasan on.
@@pedropikapikaI saw that too! I was thinking this mf’er is definitely on a forum/chat/discord whatever getting his points from someone else. Definitely compounded when he came back for seconds. Sad to see the physical effects of terminal online cancerous behavior. Hope lil bro can get some help/hopefully this bs doesn’t fester in his life
I somehow felt bad for him, even though I've literally been cyber stalked myself by brigaders. Like... He put his face out there, didn't listen to a GD thing, and just rattled off talking points that have been seared into his brain. He paid to expose himself and get bodied by a calm, giant dude. His existence makes me sad.
@@jessjess23brooks89 no solidarity for fuentes white supremacist incel fans. if they show growth, yes. he got his tallking points from divorcelli sub btw
He doesn't even have a strong grasp on public speaking. It's easy to split hairs and make a both sides enlightened liberal points land in mutual good faith conversation. When speaking on a platform (something Hasan knows very well) there's a slew of factors which Hasan has down like clockwork. Every single individual will come away with a different conclusion based on how you simply hold posture. Sadly this kid never had a chance and I think Hasan thought he might get to him or at least make an example of how this rhetoric actually lands in a Democratized Media-Scape outside of Lamestream.
You know what, even though this guy was annoying as hell, I’m glad he had this exchange with Hasan because it shows that Hasan has very respectful and thoughtful debates, he’s not just constantly raging like his twitch clips suggest.
Honestly, the worst part was realising that there was an entire line of people who just wanted to take photos with Hasan who had to watch this. Ron Weasley is selfish af.
I thought this was after most people had gone when I first started watching it. That reveal at the end was like a devastating twist at the end of a horror movie. Made the entire thing so much worse immediately. Holy shit.
Hasan handled himself super well here and made some good points in response to these gotcha questions, the guy definitely had an agenda but basically just had incorrect info to make Hasan out to be an enemy for some reason.
This kid is so socially awkward he can't even pay attention and actually listen. he's just standing there fidgeting his ass off trying to make sure that he doesn't forget his next talking point.
Thank you Hasanabi productions for adding sources, extra images and clips, and wonderful quick editing. Sincerely you and a few others go above and beyond and I appreciate you for it.
im calling it Hasan is absolutely going to be a teacher at some point once streaming doesn't fulfill him or whatever, his whole energy is cool teacher vibes and when you really unpack what he does for a living, he's already got the experience needed for classroom management lmao.
This kid literally raises his voice to grandstand, looks to see if his mate is watching, and literally tweaks so hard that he begins to pick his nose before catching himself *multiple times*. And Hasan just stands there and gives him the attention and respect that he would give anyone. Fucking decorum.
Tbf, think this kid is on the Autism spectrum or something. My kid is and some of the movements are similar to what my kid does. Is he a dweeb for spouting Destiny's talking points yep but to be charitable he may just have some ticks he's manifesting because he's nervous.
This student does not have his listening ears on!!! In all seriousness this kid is basically saying he’s conditionally pro Palestine, and people like that aren’t actually pro Palestine. What a waste of hasans time here smh
0:20 “you dismissed Rword in Oct 7 by calling it Rword fantasies, hallucinations" After being corrected, the kid goes 1:50 “the way you sounded like it was dismissive." Confronted with new information, he deflects 2:27 "I'm very much Pro-Palestine.” Calls himself a “Humanitarian” after pathetically trying to assign Hasan beliefs he doesn't hold. 7:54 "there's enormous debate about that(Yemeni Kid not bing a civilian)." After explaining critical questions, he asked the Yemeni Kid. 9:09 “what if you were talking to an IDF soldier.” Hasan answered, 'I would have conducted questions befitting someone with Nazi ambitions.' The Student explodes in hysteria, forgetting to prove the claims he made against the Yemeni Kid, 9:52 "YOU ENTER IN CONTEXTUAL BLATHER." At 9:58 Hasan perfectly dismantles the weaponizations of progressive causes for Israel's Genocide aka Pink-Washing.
"I'm actually a leftist and pro-Palestine." *proceeds to say Palestine deserves everything and practically inhuman.* What a twitchy disingenuous debate lord. So cringe.
That dude is making me uncomfortable from how visibly uncomfortable and anxious he is. He's twitching and shaking like nervous people do before a fistfight happens. It's so odd. He's also not engaged in a conversation at all, you can tell he's barely listening to Hasan and instead is stuck inside his head planning his next talking point. He is not cut out for debates. His brain willpower & confidence is so weak that his body is having a physical reaction to what he sees as some sort of hostile confrontation. He has no intention of absorbing what Hasan says and taking it into account. He's the perfect representation of all the cringe debate lords online that if actually pressed in person would crumble immediately. You can't play make believe of you being a strong confident intellectual once you're face to face with an actual confident informed person. I'm sure he's missing being able to hide behind a screen and keyboard. This was a rough watch lol.
Absolutely, the way he is basically jumping up and down in place and smiling when talking about Palestine is so bizarre. Hasan was very respectful and patient, but this person was clearly not looking for an honest conversation, just a "gotcha" debate lord.
the problem is he's only interested in winning the argument when a healthy debate is actually about bouncing off of each others talking points and correcting where you may have misstepped in your knowledge of the topic
Dood some guy above was saying this guy was on acid. I said there was no way, probably Addies. But I think you hit the nail on the head, speedballing prescription drugs
Clozapine is an antipsychotic. Clonazepam or Klonopin is maybe what you meant, since it's a benzo? But even then, this is not a side effect. They can actually be taken together, though the efficacy of both klonopin and adderall would be impaired, not strengthened. The first reply to this compares it to a speedball, which is not at all how the combination works nor what a speedball is (opiates and uppers).
@@kittygoesWOOF I was using "speedballing" as kind of a joke. But it seems like the combo he's on. I like to take acid and go skydiving and play basketball and concerts and movies. This guy wasn't on acid. Not even a microdose. Also, I like to think I have a nuanced view on the brain, psychology, neurochemistry, etc. The body operates on various feedback loops, and the brain exibits enormous plasticity, even into late 30's, early 40s depending on genetic makeup. Certain psychiatric drugs should be used as a stopgap, and not a permanent solution; and feedback loops, brain scans, and blood tests should be an automatic part of diagnoses. The newest DSM and many modern psychiatrists are starting to acknowledge these as issues to be addressed. I just think cringe Ron Weasley is either nervous, or "speedballing" prescription drugs, even if they were prescribed for speedballing. Bc he's definitely not on any of the fun or useful drugs
- Explanation is not justification. - Deciding to talk about ongoing crimes of Israel that we have influence over that far surpass Hamas' crimes which we have little influence over and have already happened is simply following a basic moral principle of focusing on what you have the most impact on rather than not. Made point by Chomsky. - Hamas' crimes would not have happened without Israel's crimes, so it's unproductive to focus on Hamas' crime beyond condemnation, which Hasan has done many times. - Condemning homophobia in a society that is too busy trying to survive an oppressive military state is pointless. They can't progress internally on these issues if they're too busy trying to survive. Which is why we focus on the bigger picture. It's really not hard to understand if you have an ounce of good faith.
The last point always amazes me with you Liberals and Western/Western leaning people. The entire world does not need to share your values vis a vis "homophobia". Wanting people to share every value of yours without accepting that they may have a different outlook is a fine line from then persecuting said groups for not sharing your values e.g. America and their world wide destruction based on "values of democracy".
The patience hasan has is immense and very admirable. And the kid is shaking and swaying. I wish this kid was able to hear what hasan was saying rather than just blast talking point.
watching this live everybody in hascord too was pointing out he started tweaking and losing eye contact while hasan remained calm, and he debatelorded hasan whilst other people were waiting like 20 mins to speak to him still 😭
God bless the patient of Hasan. With all those bad faith arguments and lies, I will be incapable of maintaining a good temper. What a debate lord freak, how can you waste precious time like that in a genocide.
Hey, yassinazarkan, I don’t know if you misunderstood what you replied to, but an example of the kid doing bad faith is where he tries to use oc.7 to contextualize what’s happening in gza, while simultaneously saying you can’t contextualize the level of violnce that happened on oc.7
This kid didn’t come for open and honest dialogue, he came argue his defence of Israel whilst claiming he is pro Palestine to shield himself from the accusation that he is not object or speaking in good faith, rather than own politically own up to his ideology on this point he is being intellectually dishonest about his position. He’s not listening, he’s just counting down the seconds to when he can respond with his next talking point, he’s twitching, staring all over the place, such peculiar behaviour.
He really is and I, for one, am loving it. It looks like our man broke out a tweed jacket and he made that shit look good. I guess if someone under 60 is going to break out a look like that, speaking at Cambridge would be the time to do that.
I agree, even him physically moving a lot could be because of adhd/anxiety but I do think he was questioning in bad faith and it's reasonable others (myself included) see his physical actions as disrespectful (jumping up and down in place and smiling when hasan is talking about very real shit happening and being patient and respectful - it looks like impatience for hasan to finish his answer and anticipation for another "banging" question). His vibes were def off.
Every time I hear someone say that the guy from Yemen was attacking a boat in that TikTok that went viral I think they must be blind. When I first heard about it I expected to see a militant ready for battle. What I saw was a well dressed and groomed young man on motorboat. When I looked into the boat he was heading for I realized it had been moored for months and people were paying to be ferried out to the boat for a fun day trip. This took me less then 5 minutes to find a google search.I guess most people saw a brown guy and assumed the worst of him.
I think a good straight forward example to use when trying to explain Oct 7th is the finklestein “slave revolt” analogy. Often times slave revolts involved large scale atrocities committed against non-combatants but it’s pretty easy to understand why that happened even if it wasn’t a good thing.
It is incredible to see that over 95% of the victims even before october 7th were on the palestinian sight, theres currently a genocide and this guy only talks about houthis and israeli teenagers of which many were grown adults who had served in the idf. This is what us arabs living in Europe are dealing with. They are openly saying "we dont care about the majority of victims but we fancy us humanitarians". An entire conversation leaving out palestinian victims. Call it what is is. Racism and orientatlism.
The British kid really said you have to morally approach every situation exactly the same regardless of the circumstances or context my man that’s irrational
@@yassinazarkan4207 At exactly 9:30. You're welcome. He falsely conflates moral universalism with unconditionality. You can be a moral universalist who recognizes that context shapes the representation of morality, insofar as that is attached to the underlying basis from which morality orients itself. I would assume what he meant to speak of was deontology, but that is not the only universalist position. Consequentialism can be understood as universalist, for example, in that the constant/universal is the issue of consequence, but said consequences can still be evaluated according to their particularity without such contextualization contradicting the overarching statement I just issued.
He is not pro Palestine. He is taking the position as a "Left", "Pro Palestinian" as he does not want to be pressed on being pro Israel because he will lose the debate.
most annoying person to have a conversation with. He has zero patience to listen to opposing views. All he cares about is cooking up his next talking point but its all the same regurgitated BS.
Ron was following them to the pub too lmao he wasn’t saying anything just trying to be part of the group. I want to know how Hasan felt with this man following who is very clearly trying to get a W in the marketplace of ideas and not engaging honestly.
As someone who’s been R*ped many times and almost died during one of the times I was never mad at Hasan? I totally understand what he meant. The fact that this dude likely has no experience in this and is just trying to gotcha him.
Why is it so hard for people to understand that when you explain why someone has cancer does NOT mean you’re defending/justifying cancer? Humans really are a mix of a tree and a ghost.
The fact that the kid can’t understand that you can both condemn rapes and also be against genocide and understand the bigger picture
That’s a cop out. Because that implies that these alleged rapes actually occurred, and so far, not one victim has stepped forward to levy these accusations regarding October 7th. The only accusations have been levied by the state of Israel itself, and distributed these accusations via state propaganda, and the only evidence they’ve offered up in support of these claims have been 34 reports taken from attendees of the Nova Music Festival, none of whom report having seen the alleged assaults happen, only offering sounds they say they heard, and vibes they got, to substantiate their claims, and absolutely no video footage of said alleged assaults has ever come to light if such footage even exists, in the case that such assaults even happened. Keep in mind that there is no shortage of footage of straight up murder, and hiding in the brush, and camping out in the places from where these purported “witnesses” say they heard what they feel like sounded like what they imagine a sexual assault would sound like, but I guess none of them thought to pull their phones back out, and record what they thought they heard happening, or even peak their head to see if someone was in distress, what was distressing them, and if it was possible for them to run to their aid, or not. But again, plenty of head peaking, and footage of gunmen straight up murdering fools.
And nevermind that Israel is a surveillance state that’s equipped either satellite technology that can zoom in on a Hamas gunman and count the number of scraggly hairs on the left side of his nutsack, and every inch of Israel is covered by CCTV. Just trust Israel, bro.
Also just ignore the centuries of historic racial violence that came in the form of terror bombings, lynch mobbings, and something you wouldn’t be remiss to label as taking on the appearance, the shape, and sharing the nature of a pogrom, not to mention actual other historical colonial massacres, all of which had been firmly planted in “savage rape hysteria” stemming from false accusations, typically, some aggrieved white lady made up for attention, probably, if not specifically for the purpose of harming black people, or Native Americans, most typically, in the context of American history, at least.
Look up the circumstances that surrounded the 1921 airborne firebombing of Black Wall Street, and the surrounding Greenwood district, also known as the Tulsa Race massacre, but you can probably guess what incited a white mob in a klan city to team up with local police and drop explosives from the seat of prop planes overhead, and take to the rooftops of black owned businesses they ransacked, so they could pick off members of this most affluent black community that had risen up in spite of the odds, and burn down 90% of the homes, churchs, and businesses, and nah. Dick Rowland didn’t rape nobody, neither.
And truthfully, the violence of October 7th was never an incitement for anything Israel has done to Gaza. It’s the excuse. Those Israeli people didn’t need a reason to do what they were primed to do. They needed permission.
@@PunkiBroosterthere is at least one credible claim. Arguing whether it happened or not is pure distraction. Just condemn sexual violence and move on. Hasan did it right
Which is strange because the kid said he was pro-palestine but kept arguing with Hasan
And assuming that those mass grapes did occur on October 7th by hamas and that it does delegitimize their rebellion, then following that same line of thinking doesn’t that mean Israel’s entire campaign in Gaza is delegitimized? Because they have literal grape camps being used in Israel to house Palestinians “suspected” of being hamas. If grape delegitimizes a war in his eyes does that mean he should condemn Israel’s campaign far more since it happens on a wider scale.
Debating is pointless because everyone knows whoever is wearing the turtleneck wins by default
Haha!! Accurate
Hassy was posing like a model the whole time
😂😂😂 its true.
Has is distractingly immaculate in turtlenecks
😂😂😂😂
The best part of this is Hasan calmly pouring himself a glass of water and drinking it
Kid was tweaking out 😂
yeah the kid must have run through the “debate” in his head like a hundred times in the days leading up to this, and none of those imagined scenarios prepared him for how bad it actually went haha
@@ifiwantyoutofeelhe was bouncing up and down while hasan was speaking 😂
Hydrated and unbothered~
he was pouring a tall glass of shut up juice
Kid basically saying Oct 7 had no context should tell you where he's coming from
I study with the Cambridge curriculum in highschool, I'm surprised cuz Cambridge does teach you to do your own research, especially in history, and Israel Palestine is covered in the curriculum in gcse and a level....... LIKE CAMBRIDGE COVERED AMERICAN WAR CRIMES DURING THE COLD WAR and covered Britain's complicity to nzi Germany
the most reasonable take on this is that you can say the killings of civilians by hamas was evil but to a relatively high degree expected, not that it's okay, but any of these liberals who are like "what Hamas did is evil, but somehow Israel doing the same but worse is not evil because it's retaliation" when what Hamas did was also retaliation, their argument falls apart in the face of reality
I remember saying this in a liberal thread and most of them agreed with me, because a lot of liberals have unexamined takes on this that when they take a closer look at, it kinda pushes them a bit to the left
@Ar1AnX1x yeah I can see your point
It would be like saying the Irish bombings in Northern Ireland have no context.
@@MatFordSpot on!
As someone mentioned in the chat, this kid is not listening he's just waiting to drop his next talking point.
It's just the reality of young kids in uni. They overestimate what they know, get older, learn more, then realise how big the world is and gain perspective and mellow out
Typical DGG behavior. Just keep arguing with Has and just keep blabbering
waiting for his cool down 🚮
He’s kinda hot tho…
100%
The fit is unreal and so on vibe for the setting
Right he’s serving so hard rn
100%, he nailed it.
YASS! I'm not always a fan of Hasan's sartorial choices for events, but this outfit was perfect!
100% serving professor vibes
He looks like a Russian philosopher
Thank GOD for the dude at the end, who invited Hasan out for a pint - ending this pointless conversation with a dude who has his ears closed.
Guy was just standing there smirking the whole time.
I loved that. 100% the most British way to rescue someone who needs rescuing from a terrible conversation.
What makes it funnier is that's the CURRENT Cambridge Union president telling the president-elect that debate has limits lmao
“I’m a left leaning guy…” is such a typical “genuine question” / “just asking” guy trope
So duckin true!
"I'm a left leaning guy, but here are all my hyper-reactionary opinions and fox news talking points about _____."
"yeah i'm all for freeing palestine and stuff" *brings up the Houthis and the "pirate" kid* lmfao
They usually call into MR with the whole glazin' strategy.. "I've listened to you for a while" or "I'm a conservative, but I like you for some reason.."
Fkn Roads!?
How do they work?
Why is that a problem? It's critical reasoning, no? You could assess every position of a group of people you usually agree with and disagree with a few od their positions. Or am I interpreting this wrong?
Bro this guy legitimately killed the vibes, the fact he paid more to have a personal debate with Hasan is high key fucking cringe.
I didnt know they had to pay 🫣💀
I just...want to tell him its going to be okay? idk? his anxiety made me feel so bad for him. That's the world he lives in. This makes me hate destiny even more. These are real people he's mindmelted and sent into the "war against hasan". I get why Hasan says he wishes them well.
@@hauz287tbh i dont think its fair to call this kid a destiny fan bc this narrative about hasan that ORIGINATED from destiny is now pretty commonplace in other spaces too. He mightve watched some drama channel video on hasan and was close by and decided to stop by and talk to him.
@@bingusenjoyer197Notice how I never called him a destiny fan but someone who was consumed by the rhetoric destiny created? Because I sure did. He's still a POS for doing that.
@@bingusenjoyer197I never called him a fan of Destiny but rather someone who was victim to his rhetoric. This diligneation isn't productive. Destiny is still a P 0 S.
Okay at first I thought this guy was just a regular student who had misunderstandings about Hasan. And then he started listing off all the points Destiny’s community wanted to get Hasan on.
Dude even went for the tibet angle for a second until he remembered has had dismantled that live already
oh god i havent reached the tibet part that makes me think this is a DGGer fs bc they wanted to target that
@@249aaa the Divorcirelli Groyper Gulpers aren't sending their best
Yes, you can see him during the debate furiously typing into his phone instead of listening 🤔
@@pedropikapikaI saw that too! I was thinking this mf’er is definitely on a forum/chat/discord whatever getting his points from someone else. Definitely compounded when he came back for seconds. Sad to see the physical effects of terminal online cancerous behavior. Hope lil bro can get some help/hopefully this bs doesn’t fester in his life
I like Hasan’s gentle parenting debate technique here.
fav comment so real
Never heard him so beautifully calm before
❤
This teach is called: "The Hand Hold" opposed to the more aggro tech "The Dogwalk"
Hasan is a master class in keeping a conversation calm.
yeah cause he deals with 20-30k people 8 hours daily
Only in person, if this was online he would be frothing
@@oobieo in person is where it counts
@@ohno6325 it says something about him tho
@@oobieo what you think it says about him
BRO DEADASS SAID THE “ERM ACTUALLY” LMFAOAOAOAOO
Time please?
@@camtyler3576the entire video.....
@@hauz287 hahahahaha fair play
@@hauz287 lmaoo
Guy probably thought he sounded like a badass while thinking of these epic lines in the shower.
Nah this is straight from Ds circle jerk of influence.
Bold of you to assume he had a shower. 🤣
Bro tried to take Reddit out into the real world, I think this kid needs to take a break from the internet
I somehow felt bad for him, even though I've literally been cyber stalked myself by brigaders. Like... He put his face out there, didn't listen to a GD thing, and just rattled off talking points that have been seared into his brain. He paid to expose himself and get bodied by a calm, giant dude. His existence makes me sad.
@@jessjess23brooks89 no solidarity for fuentes white supremacist incel fans. if they show growth, yes. he got his tallking points from divorcelli sub btw
He doesn't even have a strong grasp on public speaking. It's easy to split hairs and make a both sides enlightened liberal points land in mutual good faith conversation. When speaking on a platform (something Hasan knows very well) there's a slew of factors which Hasan has down like clockwork. Every single individual will come away with a different conclusion based on how you simply hold posture. Sadly this kid never had a chance and I think Hasan thought he might get to him or at least make an example of how this rhetoric actually lands in a Democratized Media-Scape outside of Lamestream.
You know what, even though this guy was annoying as hell, I’m glad he had this exchange with Hasan because it shows that Hasan has very respectful and thoughtful debates, he’s not just constantly raging like his twitch clips suggest.
validest observation
I agree but I am also kind of worried that these videos are going to lead to more of them trying to debate irl.
@@ed1665 nah they're all losers u saw how nervous they were on stage
It was odd not hearing him yell at chatters...
@@CrossWindsPat Having only one idiot to deal with is probably a vacation for Hasan.
Bro really in december 2024 came there and said "do you condemn Hamas"💀
Would have flatout said no tbh. We can't be having these conversations in 2024
😅 highlight of his year, too
Anyone who cites Ritchie Torres as a source deserves to be automatically laughed out of the room 😂
Honestly, the worst part was realising that there was an entire line of people who just wanted to take photos with Hasan who had to watch this. Ron Weasley is selfish af.
I thought this was after most people had gone when I first started watching it. That reveal at the end was like a devastating twist at the end of a horror movie. Made the entire thing so much worse immediately. Holy shit.
Tbf at least Ron Weasley had something to say. People lining up just for photos are weird IMO.
@@kristianbasile7141yeah no.
I mean if I was in line I wouldn’t mind this is quality content
@@kristianbasile7141 that's such a weird feeling to have, what do you think people do with celebrities?
Hasan handled himself super well here and made some good points in response to these gotcha questions, the guy definitely had an agenda but basically just had incorrect info to make Hasan out to be an enemy for some reason.
"Trust me, bro, if I could just debate Hasan one on one, I could show everybody what a grifter he is,"
-everybody who has lost a debate with Hasan
The way he kept looking at the camera - he wanted this to be streamed so bad
This kid is so socially awkward he can't even pay attention and actually listen. he's just standing there fidgeting his ass off trying to make sure that he doesn't forget his next talking point.
To be fair, he probably hasn't been in front of tens of thousands of people before defending his beliefs.
I’m a Hasan fan and very socially anxious, I’d be no better than this guy
@@polihaysehe did pay to be infront of thousands of people here
Bro common the poor kid though he had a point, it not his fault that Hasan has giga brain.
He's fatiguing to just watch. The twitching, the scratching, the propping himself up on the balls of his feet. Please man, take it easy
My guy was tweaking. Tell Ron Weasley he’s been clip chimped and he starts shaking and hugging himself
Sir, I’ll have you know that this student is Cambridges FINEST
"Oi, ain't no fackin way Hasson Abbey 'asnt 'eard these fackin' talking points!"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
breaking british into phonics is so awesome 😂😂😂 gets me every time
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We straight m'lord posting now!?!? 😂🤣😂🤣
The whole time I'm reading this over and over all I can hear is the "Fackin Pronouns" guys 😆
Thank you Hasanabi productions for adding sources, extra images and clips, and wonderful quick editing. Sincerely you and a few others go above and beyond and I appreciate you for it.
im calling it Hasan is absolutely going to be a teacher at some point once streaming doesn't fulfill him or whatever, his whole energy is cool teacher vibes and when you really unpack what he does for a living, he's already got the experience needed for classroom management lmao.
He'd be an amazing professor!
he did say he wanted to do teaching as a professor and that was his passion, he's just doing it through twitch currently
Apart from that he doesn't use logic sure
@ try again
This kid literally raises his voice to grandstand, looks to see if his mate is watching, and literally tweaks so hard that he begins to pick his nose before catching himself *multiple times*. And Hasan just stands there and gives him the attention and respect that he would give anyone. Fucking decorum.
He kept looking to the side, grinning to his friends. Absolutely pathetic. Lol
Tbf, think this kid is on the Autism spectrum or something. My kid is and some of the movements are similar to what my kid does. Is he a dweeb for spouting Destiny's talking points yep but to be charitable he may just have some ticks he's manifesting because he's nervous.
😅 ewww
This student does not have his listening ears on!!!
In all seriousness this kid is basically saying he’s conditionally pro Palestine, and people like that aren’t actually pro Palestine. What a waste of hasans time here smh
no srsly though he’s so stuck on oct 7th, as if the 50x murder of palestinians by the idf since then isnt also outrageous & unacceptable
He's a humanitarian!!! /s
0:20 “you dismissed Rword in Oct 7 by calling it Rword fantasies, hallucinations" After being corrected, the kid goes 1:50 “the way you sounded like it was dismissive." Confronted with new information, he deflects 2:27 "I'm very much Pro-Palestine.” Calls himself a “Humanitarian” after pathetically trying to assign Hasan beliefs he doesn't hold.
7:54 "there's enormous debate about that(Yemeni Kid not bing a civilian)." After explaining critical questions, he asked the Yemeni Kid. 9:09 “what if you were talking to an IDF soldier.” Hasan answered, 'I would have conducted questions befitting someone with Nazi ambitions.' The Student explodes in hysteria, forgetting to prove the claims he made against the Yemeni Kid, 9:52 "YOU ENTER IN CONTEXTUAL BLATHER." At 9:58 Hasan perfectly dismantles the weaponizations of progressive causes for Israel's Genocide aka Pink-Washing.
"I'm actually a leftist and pro-Palestine."
*proceeds to say Palestine deserves everything and practically inhuman.*
What a twitchy disingenuous debate lord. So cringe.
What is Ron Weasley doing bro 😭😂
he turned into a right wing grifter after his stand-up comedy venture failed
he is lost in the sauce
don’t do ron like that 😔😔
@@ssshoneystardidn’t Ron become a cop?
Someone tell his mother to send a howler to tell him off 😭
The boy thinks you can only sympathize with one side, and you can only understand the pain of one side. His mind is not as open as he thinks it is.
Hasan is so much calmer and more respectful without his twitch chat I swear to god lol
First time witnessing a human outside of your bedroom or their streaming room?
That dude is making me uncomfortable from how visibly uncomfortable and anxious he is. He's twitching and shaking like nervous people do before a fistfight happens. It's so odd. He's also not engaged in a conversation at all, you can tell he's barely listening to Hasan and instead is stuck inside his head planning his next talking point. He is not cut out for debates. His brain willpower & confidence is so weak that his body is having a physical reaction to what he sees as some sort of hostile confrontation.
He has no intention of absorbing what Hasan says and taking it into account. He's the perfect representation of all the cringe debate lords online that if actually pressed in person would crumble immediately. You can't play make believe of you being a strong confident intellectual once you're face to face with an actual confident informed person. I'm sure he's missing being able to hide behind a screen and keyboard. This was a rough watch lol.
spot on analysis
Absolutely, the way he is basically jumping up and down in place and smiling when talking about Palestine is so bizarre. Hasan was very respectful and patient, but this person was clearly not looking for an honest conversation, just a "gotcha" debate lord.
What debatelord brain does to a mfer
This is basically what debate is and why hasan hates it so much
There is no learning, just trying to dominate with your talking points
the problem is he's only interested in winning the argument when a healthy debate is actually about bouncing off of each others talking points and correcting where you may have misstepped in your knowledge of the topic
Watching Ron sneezly look around the room smirking while Hasan dismantles his points is infuriating
bad faith questions, sounds like ethan. He's pro-palestine but he'a obsessed with aesthetics and justification versus contextualization.
This is a reminder to never mix your Clozapine with your Adderall
Dood some guy above was saying this guy was on acid. I said there was no way, probably Addies. But I think you hit the nail on the head, speedballing prescription drugs
omg 😭😭😭💀
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Clozapine is an antipsychotic. Clonazepam or Klonopin is maybe what you meant, since it's a benzo? But even then, this is not a side effect. They can actually be taken together, though the efficacy of both klonopin and adderall would be impaired, not strengthened. The first reply to this compares it to a speedball, which is not at all how the combination works nor what a speedball is (opiates and uppers).
@@kittygoesWOOF I was using "speedballing" as kind of a joke. But it seems like the combo he's on. I like to take acid and go skydiving and play basketball and concerts and movies. This guy wasn't on acid. Not even a microdose. Also, I like to think I have a nuanced view on the brain, psychology, neurochemistry, etc. The body operates on various feedback loops, and the brain exibits enormous plasticity, even into late 30's, early 40s depending on genetic makeup. Certain psychiatric drugs should be used as a stopgap, and not a permanent solution; and feedback loops, brain scans, and blood tests should be an automatic part of diagnoses. The newest DSM and many modern psychiatrists are starting to acknowledge these as issues to be addressed. I just think cringe Ron Weasley is either nervous, or "speedballing" prescription drugs, even if they were prescribed for speedballing. Bc he's definitely not on any of the fun or useful drugs
bruv had all the anti-hasan reddit talking points on lock.
when he tried to bring up killing gay ppl & tibet i was rolling my eyes
- Explanation is not justification.
- Deciding to talk about ongoing crimes of Israel that we have influence over that far surpass Hamas' crimes which we have little influence over and have already happened is simply following a basic moral principle of focusing on what you have the most impact on rather than not. Made point by Chomsky.
- Hamas' crimes would not have happened without Israel's crimes, so it's unproductive to focus on Hamas' crime beyond condemnation, which Hasan has done many times.
- Condemning homophobia in a society that is too busy trying to survive an oppressive military state is pointless. They can't progress internally on these issues if they're too busy trying to survive. Which is why we focus on the bigger picture.
It's really not hard to understand if you have an ounce of good faith.
those last three words are key here
"of good faith"
The last point always amazes me with you Liberals and Western/Western leaning people. The entire world does not need to share your values vis a vis "homophobia". Wanting people to share every value of yours without accepting that they may have a different outlook is a fine line from then persecuting said groups for not sharing your values e.g. America and their world wide destruction based on "values of democracy".
Lil bro just wanted his moment to knock Hasan down, homie wasn’t having it
He poured himself a drink & stood taller.
The patience hasan has is immense and very admirable. And the kid is shaking and swaying. I wish this kid was able to hear what hasan was saying rather than just blast talking point.
watching this live everybody in hascord too was pointing out he started tweaking and losing eye contact while hasan remained calm, and he debatelorded hasan whilst other people were waiting like 20 mins to speak to him still 😭
It's crazy how the room goes silent 4 minutes in when it's clear the guy is doing what he's doing.
God bless the patient of Hasan. With all those bad faith arguments and lies, I will be incapable of maintaining a good temper. What a debate lord freak, how can you waste precious time like that in a genocide.
Give one example of him being bad faith or lying
Hey, yassinazarkan, I don’t know if you misunderstood what you replied to, but an example of the kid doing bad faith is where he tries to use oc.7 to contextualize what’s happening in gza, while simultaneously saying you can’t contextualize the level of violnce that happened on oc.7
this man cosplayed as a college professor lol
He has the knowledge necessary. He'd actually be taking a step down if he were to drop everything and earn his PhD to become a full professor.
And he looks hot doing it
he has actually said if Twitch never worked out he wouldve gotten his phd and become a professor so its kinda fitting lol
This kid didn’t come for open and honest dialogue, he came argue his defence of Israel whilst claiming he is pro Palestine to shield himself from the accusation that he is not object or speaking in good faith, rather than own politically own up to his ideology on this point he is being intellectually dishonest about his position. He’s not listening, he’s just counting down the seconds to when he can respond with his next talking point, he’s twitching, staring all over the place, such peculiar behaviour.
lol! The Return of Ron Weasley. The saga continues!!!!
That dude was so cringe, he's right out of reddit, hasan is giving college professor vibes ❤
He really is and I, for one, am loving it. It looks like our man broke out a tweed jacket and he made that shit look good. I guess if someone under 60 is going to break out a look like that, speaking at Cambridge would be the time to do that.
Average destiny viewer😂
I haven't watched this yet but knowing how DGG is, let me guess, the guy is completely bad faith and is just there to be a debate mercenary
multiple instances here of him misrepresenting hasan’s pov so whether it’s purposeful or not on his end ur right 😂
This guy seemed fine until he started saying there wasn’t any context.
I don't like people making fun of how he looks here, I'd make fun of the vibes, the bad destiny fingers on the face bad faith vibes
I agree, even him physically moving a lot could be because of adhd/anxiety but I do think he was questioning in bad faith and it's reasonable others (myself included) see his physical actions as disrespectful (jumping up and down in place and smiling when hasan is talking about very real shit happening and being patient and respectful - it looks like impatience for hasan to finish his answer and anticipation for another "banging" question). His vibes were def off.
Every time I hear someone say that the guy from Yemen was attacking a boat in that TikTok that went viral I think they must be blind. When I first heard about it I expected to see a militant ready for battle. What I saw was a well dressed and groomed young man on motorboat. When I looked into the boat he was heading for I realized it had been moored for months and people were paying to be ferried out to the boat for a fun day trip. This took me less then 5 minutes to find a google search.I guess most people saw a brown guy and assumed the worst of him.
What constantly being on reddit does to a mf. This dude is a straight up debate bro.
He started getting more fidgety when he couldn't shake hasan. That boy could cause an earthquake from the tremble of his voice alone lmao
I'm a Geologist. I can confirm.
Hasan handled this situation so well. Lil bro started tweaking while people are just waiting for their turn, ridiculous
not listening at all, smirking until its his turn
complete waste of time
You got a lot to learn lil bro.
I guess ron has to level up or something
Man I feel bad for the people that wanted to ask questions and had to wait through a 14 minute yap sesh
This kid is annoying ……he’s not listening he’s just responding to get his point across
This guy was unfortunately everywhere too; bad vibes i tell ya...
I think a good straight forward example to use when trying to explain Oct 7th is the finklestein “slave revolt” analogy. Often times slave revolts involved large scale atrocities committed against non-combatants but it’s pretty easy to understand why that happened even if it wasn’t a good thing.
It is incredible to see that over 95% of the victims even before october 7th were on the palestinian sight, theres currently a genocide and this guy only talks about houthis and israeli teenagers of which many were grown adults who had served in the idf. This is what us arabs living in Europe are dealing with. They are openly saying "we dont care about the majority of victims but we fancy us humanitarians". An entire conversation leaving out palestinian victims. Call it what is is. Racism and orientatlism.
Ron sounds just like Hasan, when he's entirely laughing at their accent
That’s exactly what I was thinking lol
LOL THE "LET'S DITCH THIS NERD AND GO TO THE PUB" AT THE END
Shout out to the real proper bloke who saved the day by moving it along at the end.
Hazan is literally at Hogwarts 😂
The hog is quite literal in this sense
@@ConflictingJumps😂😂
@@ConflictingJumps The Hog AND the Warts. 😂😂😂
hasan is so right about these people having no actual beliefs and just caring about debating
man why’s this brit gotta make us gingies look bad yet AGAIN we need will neff as our representative 😂
The British kid really said you have to morally approach every situation exactly the same regardless of the circumstances or context my man that’s irrational
When did he say that?
@@yassinazarkan4207 At exactly 9:30. You're welcome. He falsely conflates moral universalism with unconditionality. You can be a moral universalist who recognizes that context shapes the representation of morality, insofar as that is attached to the underlying basis from which morality orients itself. I would assume what he meant to speak of was deontology, but that is not the only universalist position. Consequentialism can be understood as universalist, for example, in that the constant/universal is the issue of consequence, but said consequences can still be evaluated according to their particularity without such contextualization contradicting the overarching statement I just issued.
Habsburg jaw spotted, opinion rejected
can you guys stop making fun of people's looks? like DGGers are stupid enough as it is
don't make fun of people's looks, make fun his terrible debate mercenary vibes
🤣 I googled it. I almost did a spit take. I recognize this is not productive but it is objectively hilarious
I be saying shit like this and YT snatches it right on up. 😂😂😂
it’s not his fault the brits just have that
He is not pro Palestine. He is taking the position as a "Left", "Pro Palestinian" as he does not want to be pressed on being pro Israel because he will lose the debate.
Ron is moving so fast it’s giving me vertigo. I can’t focus on anything Prof Piker is saying
I had to do a double take if i was playing the vid on 2x speed with how often *Ron* was changing positions.
"scuffed ron weasley" chat is brutal immediately lmfao
To acknowledge that there most probably has been rape involved is so important. That’s the only moment Bassem Yousef makes me cringe.
most annoying person to have a conversation with. He has zero patience to listen to opposing views. All he cares about is cooking up his next talking point but its all the same regurgitated BS.
Can't believe Ron Weasley would debate Hasan like that
Hey guys, easy on him, he's "pro-palestine" 😂
8:20 bro is smiling cause he think he got Hasan with talking points. And then spends his time looking around and not listening
This kid has the only accent from the British isles that could ever be this condescending 😭 this kid and RP are a match made in heaven
This kid is so disinterested in sincere conversation that he’s twitching every time I has to pretend to be listening while Hasan responds to him.
Guys it's a kid, his opinons will more than likley do a complete 180 by the end of the week. Just let the dude have his learning moments.
he's having his learning moment tho isn't he?
Ron couldn't read the room and just wanted to keep playing wizard's chess
Why is this dude tweaking it’s so odd….
why does that kid talk like me after i consume 3 cans of redbulls
He found that he was nice, he was shocked
I thought they didnt allow adderall in europe?
Ron was following them to the pub too lmao he wasn’t saying anything just trying to be part of the group. I want to know how Hasan felt with this man following who is very clearly trying to get a W in the marketplace of ideas and not engaging honestly.
the kid can't listen, he can only listen to respond. it's the problem of a debate mindset on perfect display
love this ASMR library voice version of Hasan
Lil bro really thought he was doing something.
As someone who’s been R*ped many times and almost died during one of the times I was never mad at Hasan? I totally understand what he meant. The fact that this dude likely has no experience in this and is just trying to gotcha him.
I hope youre okay now
yes, the cambridge student remind me ME, when i was younger and talking with my mother about politics.
The student does not listen. He just came to “debate” Hasan
This guy was very nervous talking to H. Very.
The body language in this exchange is body languaging
The guy seems so ready to have his “gotcha” moment that he’s not listening or going in with good faith.
The dude cleans up nicely. lol
Why is it so hard for people to understand that when you explain why someone has cancer does NOT mean you’re defending/justifying cancer? Humans really are a mix of a tree and a ghost.
Bro the kid kept smirking every time he got a point out. Like the smugness of his smile was hella off
Might as well be the young piers Morgan 😂😂