Cage The Elephant's Matt Shultz opens up about his psychosis and healing through music
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- Rock band Cage the Elephant recently celebrated one billion Spotify streams for "Cigarette Daydreams" and wrapped their largest tour to date, including a sold-out Madison Square Garden show. In an interview with Anthony Mason, the Shultz brothers talk about the challenges that shaped their latest album, "Neon Pill."
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I was indifferent about Cage The Elephant until they played with a few other bands that I liked in Atlanta two years ago. Cage was hands down the best of all the bands I actually went to see. Not only did they F’ing rock, it was so clear how grateful they were to be doing what they love for thousands every night. They made a fan for life that night. Pulling for Matt!
What a comeback. Been a Cage fan for a long time and we all knew something was spiraling with Matt. When the gun charges happened it was almost a releif. Fans like myself knew he was going to get the help he needed wether he accepted it or not, the option was health or jail time. I saw them 2 times on the latest tour and he was like a new person on stage. He was in control and it showed during the entire setlist. Welcome back Matt.
Relief
Yeah either he was going to get through it, or spiral more. But I had a feeling he was too stubborn to let that happen and I know his wife really helped too.
Saw him live in Birmingham in 2010 and never stopped following their music and dealing with psychosis myself I was very worried for him. Happy to see him okay ❤
I like Anthony's style of interviewing, and you can tell that Matt is comfortable around him. Solid journalism. God speed to CTE and Matt ✌️🎸
I agree. He was kind and caring with him.
as someone who has experienced psychosis multiple times,, it does feel so so real when you’re in it no matter how strange the delusions.
Me too.
Hope you're feeling better now 🙏
you realize how fragile life is because you're also self aware of the delusions
It lurks in the background, sometimes days, weeks, months, or even years like Matt here. Delusions can be difficult to detect, because your perception of the world may not change very much, other than paranoia creeping into the background. Rather than question your sanity, you start to question others' sanity, especially when confronted about the issue. It's like a spell that must be broken out of. I'm glad Matt snapped out of it, even though it took a police encounter before he did. Being actively psychotic and in possession of a weapon greatly multiplies the risk for self-harm or harming others.
I find it heartbreaking how people suffer through this. Lost my ex bc of it and watching her suffer was torture to me. Awareness needs to spread
good for him to get his life back on track and him reconnecting with his love. hope he continues writing and performing music on this journey of life.
This was a wonderful interview full of empathy and warmth. I love that there are finally these kinds of conversations about mental health happening. An extraordinary piece. Well done!
I never believed it till I witnessed it with someone very close.
What a story. Scary stuff. I’m so happy that he made it out and got to renew his vows.
Glad to see him in a better mental state.
i went through it too. changed my music and my relationship with everyone around me. psychosis is no joke. i could hear it in his lyrics and music.
It seemed like the Shultz Brothers went through a lot. I'm glad they opened up about it, especially Matt. Sending prayers and best wishes to them and hoping the next tour is successful. The group's music is enlightening, emotional at times and comforting. ❤❤❤❤
@mattshultz you are awesome! When we saw you in 2019 in Cincinnati, you were singing while walking through the crowd and stopped to high five my son in a wheelchair. The 2024 Cincinnati show was amazing too. Love the way you are a #Rainbow for others. @cagetheelephant
This band is something else live!! I'm officially obsessed.
5:22 "I felt like 'how could I let this happen to me?'"
"But you didn't let it happen. It happened."
I think a lot of people need to hear that.
So great Matt and Eva reunited. I hope they have a long, happy marriage!
Really beautiful interview. I went through something similar but for about a week but affected me for a good six months. I also tried to push my now fiancé away! It’s really hard to not feel guilt when you hurt your people who are trying to help. This was a beautiful interview and so glad Matt is doing better and will listen to album.
Melophobia and Tell Me I'm Pretty are tragic, heartbreaking, albums and he is a genius. It's insane to hear that he was this hurt through a lot of it, but it also makes so much sense.
My heart sank to my feet when Matt said 4 or 5 years (I thought he was going to say months). Sorry to say that I think a lot of ADHD drugs make matters worse. Our brains are so unique and complex to think that we can know how to manipulate it with drugs.
ADHD drugs almost INSTANTLY cause psychosis, and the damage is often permanent.
I dont know why we all pretend this isn’t the case.
Me, too! Incredible that he didn’t give up in all that time. Harrowing for sure!
Yeah I didn't know the extent! But I've been dealing with issues like that too for years. I guess you never really realize how long you've been dealing with something when you are in it.
@@nataliaalfonso2662a lot of misinformation up in these comments. SOME ADHD meds are stimulants. They do not cause instant psychosis. They do, however, stimulate you. A person with ADHD has a dopamine transmission deficit/issue. If you introduce a stimulant into a brain like that, that person will experience a difference that was never in reach for them otherwise.
Yes, stimulants are addictive. Yes, if abused they can and do cause psychosis. Finding the perfect dose to fill the deficit takes some trial and error. But if someone is experiencing symptoms like this guy .. he was definitely abusing it.
It’s irresponsible to come to the comments and tell the world it always causes psychosis or blah blah blah. You might dissuade someone from a treatment that could change not only their life but the lives of those closest to them.
@@nataliaalfonso2662 wow, this is a bold, blanket, and false statement you're making about meds that can change people's lives for the better and you're not backing it up with anything at all.
Was prescribed anti depressants after Covid which like many people took a toll on my mental health. I found myself severely depressed and needed some help. I took them for 5 days and on the sixth I woke up out of a dead sleep and was no longer in control of my thoughts I had a complete suicidal break and almost ended my own life. I still deal with depression but meds are not for me
Matt, I'm glad to see you well, happy, and blessed. I also want to thank you for the music you and your band have made throughout the years. Much love and I hope I get the opportunity to see you all live soon.
Love Cage! Loved seeing them live a few years back. So happy Matt was able to make that comeback!
Thanks for speaking up for those who are going through this. Cop saved my life also.
So thankful Matt shared his experience with psychosis. We need more awareness and government support for funding mental health care.
I had a psychotic episode in 2017 that lasted 2 days and then kinda lingered for 6 months. Hospitalized after the Zoloft I was taking messed with my body chemistry.
Matt’s explanation of it is spot on…. ‘hi jacked”…exactly how it feels
I just started taking Zoloft, should I be concerned? :(
@@momo33727No. Just remember that if you have a bad reaction people are there to help. Don’t be ashamed and so scared that you don’t seek help if you feel yourself “losing it.” You can often tell when something is wrong in your thinking. Don’t be too scared or proud or embarrassed to get help immediately. If you have family or friends listen to them if they notice a severe change in your behavior.
I’ve been on the Zoloft for a while now. I had constant anxiety which led to extreme frustration and then constant anger. That alone was bad enough-but I also have severe depression. Not good. I smoke cigarettes and was having constant difficulty breathing or getting enough breath in-like my lung capacity had decreased or something. I convinced myself that I had lung cancer. That fueled my anxiety, frustration, and rage (at myself). I was ashamed that I had “given myself” a fatal disease. This lasted years. I eventually got my head together and spoke with my psychiatrist. He had me supplement my existing meds with Zoloft. It was like night and day. The chest pain and breathing difficulty disappeared. I tell people that Zoloft “cured my cancer.”
I know nothing about this Cage the Elephant dude. I’m glad he’s better. However, it feels a lot like they’re skirting around the issue. That issue? Abuse of pharmaceutical amphetamines. He was prescribed an “ADHD medication.” He may have been “prescribed it” but it’s really tempting to not “take it as prescribed”-especially as a touring musician (ask me how I know) or a “long-haul trucker” like his dad. Zoloft isn’t an ADHD medication. Adderall and other ADHD meds are a huge help if you need them. Like if you can’t function as baseline normal human being. If you abuse it, not so much. I mean, it says, “Dextro-METHAMPHETAMINE” right there on the label. Not saying it’s the same thing as the Crystal variety; but it can freak you out near enough if you’re constantly popping them.
Abuse of that kind is harmful to yourself and-maybe more importantly-others with mental health issues because: A) It stigmatizes ALL psych meds. Proof? Here you are worried that Zoloft (a completely unrelated medication) is gonna cause a psychotic break. B) It makes it really difficult for those who need Adderall to get their meds. Just search up “Adderall shortage.” It’s a big problem for those whose mental health depends on their getting their medication.
@@momo33727Hi I'm a Pharmacist, and different people respond to antidepressants differently. If you start to have any unusual symptoms call your doctor right away.
Sertraline is an SSRI which helps keep Seratonin around longer and helps with depression.
If it doesn't work well for you don't worry there are a lot of different medications to treat depression.
Weight gain and sexual issues are usually the most common reasons people change antidepressant meds. Psychosis isn't a common side effect.
I hope things work out well for you. Hope this was helpful.
@@momo33727
Hi I'm a Pharmacist, and different people respond to antidepressants differently. If you start to have any unusual symptoms call your doctor right away.
Sertraline is an SSRI which helps keep Seratonin around longer and helps with depression.
If it doesn't work for you don't worry there are a lot of different options to treat depression. Weight gain and sexual issues are usually the most common reasons people change antidepressant meds. Psychosis is not a common side effect.
Hope things work out well for you.
@@momo33727I took Zoloft off and on a few years, I had to slowly cut down the dose because the withdrawal can be kinda rough. I will say when I was on it I was able to work a retail job because I had no anxiety. I’ve been off meds about 18 years.
im so proud of him and im so glad he’s in a better state. love him and the band 💗
Been a fan since 2011 wish the whole entire best for Matt and the guys
I love Cage the Elephant. I got to see them a few months ago. Thanks for this interview.
Doctor, the pain is in my chest - I knew he knew what he sing about.
Btw pleed live - their best album ever
My mom experienced psychosis after being given steroids after a major surgery. It lasted for about 3 months, and she was a completely different person. She was mean and she was terrified, it was awful. So scary! I refuse to ever take steroids now, even if it's just for inflammation or a respiratory infection or anything like that. It's wild what medications can do to some people.
Im glad your mom is better now. Steroids for pleurisy pushed me to constant fear and paranoia. Led to a mental breakdown that ultimately got me on antidepressants and behavioral therapy. I'm so grateful I got help. I will never take steroids again unless it's a life or death situation 💯
I only took prednisone for two weeks and I felt weird a few months after.
My old landlord went in for a steroid injection in his back and woke up in a jail cell. He had gone on a psychotic rampage on his drive home. Ran his car into things and tried to fight all the cops.
Wow I’m glad she’s feeling better now. I had to take steroids along with a bunch of other really strong medications after a breast augmentation and I swear I went in one person and I came out another. I felt so agitated and just out of control in my body. Now that you’re saying this I think I struggled for about a year after that. Hmmm now you’ve got me thinking about a lot of things…very curious.
We look at those with the money and fame and think they “have it all”…maybe we are correct…but some of “it all” is nothing the rest of us would ever want to be a part of.
Glad he made the changes he did!!
Matt moved me in Minneapolis this year! He’s a star. Through and through .
This from the NIH: "Although most adult patients also use amphetamines effectively and safely, occasional case reports indicate that prescription use can produce marked psychological adverse events, including stimulant-induced psychosis. Assessments of central toxicity and adverse psychological effects during late adulthood and senescence of adults who receive prolonged courses of amphetamine treatment are warranted. Finally, identification of the biological factors that confer risk and those that offer protection are also needed to better specify the parameters of safe, long-term, therapeutic administration of amphetamines to adults." Now was he actually taking the prescribed dosage, um, I kinda doubt it since his dad was addicted at one time, hence why his two brothers lived in a trailer with grandma. Too bad this was a bit more PR than getting into the real meat and potatoes of his addiction. Oh well.
Agreed, he definitely was abusing Adderall. Ive had similar experiences and you have to take a lot all the time to reach that point
Great interview. So happy Matt is feeling better. Just saw them over the summer. They were amazing!!
I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder with psychotic features in 2022 at the age of 27. My girlfriend at the time just disappeared from my life. I’ll never know why. It was devastating because I really thought she was the one. The worst part is she is also bipolar and I thought she would have been more understanding… I miss her every day. It’s been 2 years since we last spoke. I always ask God why me. I hope someday my story ends like Matt’s.. it gives me hope. I started recording a heavy metal album as it’s the only thing I got left. No friends no family… just my own mind… my hope is to maybe find friends through music… I’m pretty alone but at least there’s therapy…
where can i hear your music
Jesus will be your friend. Don’t let hypocrites and bad examples keep you from pursuing a relationship with him. He is King, savior, and can be your best friend if you’ll allow him to be.
You sound like me. I was diagnosed with the same thing years ago. Just keep listening to music and going to therapy, it'll help.
@@strangewayfaringstranger thanks for the advice… definitely will do that.. I hope things work out for you, it’s nice to know I’m not the only one out there..
Saw them live a few years ago. They are so amazing! Had no idea what he had been through. So glad he is doing better!❤
Matt has always been such a force to witness through his art. I'm sl glad he's doing better and him and Eva got back together 😭
As a Kentucky Boy, I love to see other Kentucky Boys succeed.😊
I just remembered I saw him walk on the crowd like he was walking on water at Bonnaroo in 2008 or 2009. I saw about 40 shows both those years combined, it's all a blur! 😂
As much as I can not stand mainstream media that was a very well done and respectful story. Great job
I've been a CTE fan for years now, I wrote a whole long post on his IG and a ton of people ended up liking my comment, I hope he saw it at least. I know how this darkness goes, it is music like theirs that gets me through the hardest times. I knew he could get through it though. He has a huge fanbase that loves him and I know he has family and friends too. There are moments where you are on the brink of the abyss, delusions can make you feel like you are experiencing some other reality. Why I say taking care of one's mental health is very important, if not one of the most important things.
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Sending many best wishes to you all!!! ❤❤❤❤
Love you, Matt. Just saw yall for the 4th time at red rocks
You all are AMAZING! LOVE YOU GUYS!
Doctor, the pain is in my chest..
He should do an interview with the podcast "this is actually happening" this literally sounds like a story id hear on it..😢😮
Love these guys, no matter what struggles Matt goes through, he’s a bull man, the best front man I’ve seen no doubt!
I love the band, and I think Matt just knows much more than the others do.
Sibling bands always become huge.
When the voices tell you can't ..... prove them wrong and simply be who you are beautifully.
God bless this guy. This is just what we need.
We need more men in the world like Matt!
I’ve been a fan since 2009!!! 🗣️seen you in 2010 when you were telling the crowd to “RUSH THE STAGE!!” LOVE LOVE LOVE🫵🏽 BOTH!!
I saw this band in Colorado Springs at the new Ford amphitheater and they definitely touch the lives of many people that night mine included.
Love love this band. My son just went through something similar. We have got to get control over BIG PHARMA !
He is the real deal ❤
I love that they reunited 💜🥰😭
I had no idea! I’m glad he’s doing better and was able to fix things with his wife.
This is beautiful and shows the power of music. Respect
Many years ago, I saw them perform at The Norva in Norfolk. During another band’s set, I glanced up and noticed Matt clinging to the side of the upper deck rafter, dancing wildly, his body whipping back and forth towards the bannister with intense energy. In that moment, I thought, "What on earth is this guy on?" A touch of madness, I believe, only amplifies his brilliance.
Madness ultimately ends in an early death - nothing to be admired or mythologized.
I wasn't initially a fan of the new album, but now that I know the context, I need to give it a relisten!
Absolute best band in the world!
Went 3 months Ina cast, carrying Pa equipment up stairs to continue paying my bills lol. Music is so fun lol. Love these dudes, I got to see them in a small crowd at Ear-X-Tacy a while back🙌
Matt's awesome. I'm so happy for him.
They’re a great band
Bet my sister is gonna watch this. Hi Sarah!
Wow what a crazy story now I really understand what he was talking about with Neon Pill.
Glass animals, now cage?? I think Anthony Mason has the coolest job in journalism right now! ❤😂
Yeah pretty cool
I think the public deserves to know what medication caused him to go into psychosis.
Wow. Amazing story and beautifully told. CTE music (particularly live!) is one of the things that makes life so wonderful. I’m happy that Matt gets to experience what he gives all of us!
I wish I connected with their music, because I really like this lad.
Try their self titled album. It's their first one and their best in my opinion.
Finding the right med is so hard
I had no idea they were brothers. Saw them in SF and that guy had a lot of energy. Great band and great show. I heard about his guy charge and was wondering what was going on with him. Glad he's better now!
Kentucky boys, glad to see them doing better.
Cage's first 2 albums were their best by FAR! They truly sold out for that Grammy. All that stage diving was done in the early years
Wow that was sad, glad to see him doing better lately.
He still looks so sad though.
I love this band!
6:08 when you bite into a pizza roll before it cools down
that may be the nerdiest laugh ever recorded
Cage the happiness! 😊❤
One of the best front men I’ve ever had the pleasure to experience.
"But you didnt let it happen- it happened." What a great interview 👏
Anthony Mason is a treasure!!
Cage the elephant please come to chicagooooooo
great interview...thanks
Love his artwork !
How terrifying and what a beautiful recovery for him. What was prescribed to him and was that one of the side effect warnings?
Love him.
That is an amazing tour , Oasis and Cage wow
Love You Brother! 🤘🏼
I'm a bit perplexed. This piece seems to suggest he was constantly psychotic for years; but surely there were interventions during that time? Permanent psychosis is what happens to people with unmedicated schizophrenia, and that does not appear to be what he suffers from. I wish there was more clarity about those years and whether he is now on anti-psychotics as a preventative measure.
Love this
legend💛
Beautiful interview.
I wonder what medication he was on. I am 50yrs old and was just prescribed Adderall and its been great in slowing down my mind and its racing thoughts.
Strange how they skirted around that issue. He may have been “prescribed” an ADHD medication; but there’s a pretty good chance he wasn’t taking it “as prescribed.” I’m glad he’s better. I just wish he’d be more transparent. Adderall is a miracle if you need it-like if you have ADHD. Abusing it just stigmatizes the medication and those who need it. My girlfriend takes it. With the shortages, etc. and the way pharmacies treat her with suspicion makes it, more often than not, a total drag of an ordeal every time she needs a refill.
I hate the misinformation and assumptions that are out there. They didnt discuss the possibility of a) he may have been misdiagnosed b) on too high of a dose or the wrong meds completely and c) whats his true diagnosis and is he in therapy? Ugh
Or he was taking way beyond the amount he was supposed to
AdHD medication will do that to you if you use them a lot. Lot of college kids glorify it but they have never seen Requiem for a Dream.
Anxiety will get to you & you will eventually start to feel like something start chasing you.
He felt humbled. Kamala said some people don’t want to feel that way though? And she’s my hero 🤔
I hope the doctor who prescribed the medicine is taking responsibility.
crazy story wow
Not Alone!
I’ll never forget being awake for 8 days doing the same crap… probably will for the rest of my life
...they're still playing?
poor guy seems hit hard after all this
Ain't no rest for the wicked💯
something similar happened to me from my antidepressants and it was very scary for awhile
His wife had left him, he says he’d been in this state for multiple years… why do I feel like this is not about an adhd pill? Yes some of those pills are awful and what they can do to you is awful, but more than half the time only when you are abusing them. Also, If you’re experiencing symptoms that could be described as psychosis from prescription meds, you don’t let that go on without checking on it for ‘four or five years’ and get to a point where your wife leaves you (the implication being in part because of it). Clearly Matt had an actual drug problem of some kind and this is the watered down version they gave to the press so that he didn’t have to be judged by the public for whatever he was actually doing but so that he could still talk, in a roundabout way, about the demons existent behind this record. Garnering sympathy without any of the scrutiny that comes with actually admitting you had a drug problem. Pretty genius bit of PR honestly, kudos.