5:38 Holy crap it was that simple, I always wondered how most people are always able to step around moves from so far away. Just wait 'till the opponent's close or is about to do their move and then step. Friggen duh. Shows that you can always learn no matter what skill level you're at
Love this so much, wish someone explained things like this when I tried to learn Tag 2. When you said only sidestep moves -3 to +3 that was a total eyeopener, never heard that said before it was always very vague, "just sidestep bro." Also not being able to sidestep certain moves like Law db3, I always suspected that but because I didn't see the homing I thought I was just messing up. Appreciate things like this as someone who's struggled to learn Tekken for years due to lack of information online about the game from a technical standpoint.
Hey JDCR, thanks for the video! New player here, it was easy to understand and the explanations were clear and straight to the point. Keep making great content like this!
I like how he says the benefit of sidestepping is firstly that it makes the opponent aware that you are using different options, and secondly that it allows you to punish options that they take. I feel like for most people, the order of benefits is reversed.
Depends who you are playing. Against a beginner/newbie - "Why are my attacks always missing?! Why the fuck can't I hit him? Fuck it, let's just mash buttons faster so I can hit him" Against an intermediate - "So he can sidestep, lucky prick." Against a veteran - "Aight he knows how to sidestep, time to mix up the timing of my attacks and throw out different homing attacks here and there". What I'm saying is, the benefits to sidestepping is available at all levels. The most people you are referring to are stuck between the newbie and intermediate stage.
@@BenTan89 There are a bunch of players who have absolutely zero defense, so their option is to just rush down and be aggressive af. I'm good, but not that good, so I usually have to match their energy and end up in a sloppy brawl lol. I say that to say yeah there are some players who you can't even try to employ some more advanced strats on because there's no method to their madness.
@@jamessummers5936 There is, it's called spacing and looking for openings. You don't have to kill them, you let them do it themselves. You mention aggressiveness as their defense, sure of course - that's because it works against you and it's a legit strategy. Players who are mindlessly aggressive usually throw out moves that gives a lot of + frames, random launchers or mix in a frame trap or so for a CH. However if you realize that most of these moves are usually highs (which you can duck under) or slow mids which you SS, then that's all you need to do. There are lows which gives + frames too, but that's where you employ fuzzy guarding/parrying. If you take 1 round to realize they're flowcharting, that should be enough info for you to realize how to defend against mindless aggression. The fact that you said that you have to match their aggression by also being mindlessly aggressive says that you don't actually understand the game enough.
you have to set the punish training to Hard in practice mode...i was practicing 4 hours straight just sidestepping after a while i was running around kazuya like he a amateur fighter he couldnt touch me i was just grabbing him from the side and from the back...this is the perfect tutorial,like JDCR said its all about the timimg and range,when you catch that feeling you learned how to sidestep correctly.
I dont know if you said something like this JDCR, but i attribute it to you anyways. "Why get hit, when you can avoid it entierly". Movement and sidestep is probably the skills i recognized earliest to be good at because of your matches😊
Thing is, side step should also work on that initial jab to make it whiff. The whole point of sidestepping is to get out of the X axis, so the incoming attack whiffs. Virtua Fighter and Sould Calibur do it right, but in Tekken, X axis attacks always track, unless it has huge start up like the ones shown here, which makes the mechanic more situational than anything.
5:15 i have this habit of doing doing ss further away. I didnt know that the tracking is huge when being in distance. Pretty eyeopening when thinking about Heis ff2 for example that tracks u down bcs of the distance.
A key point when sidestepping is never randomly do it. Always have the options your trying to deal with in mind, if the options your thinking of dont come out you adjust.. Always sidestep with purpose or you'll just get bad habits. The only other reason to step is aligning or dis-aligning the wall for you or your opponent but it has to be done carefully.
If you mean DSS f+4 which is the kick that comes out of his stance then you should duck it instead of stepping but if it's his wr3 then yes sidewalk it since its super linear. but drag's wr2 even though it was nerfed the more distance between you the more it will track.
They are good for different reasons, for example you should always sidewalk strings because if you just do one sidestep the string usually realigns with the hits.
Yeah, it depends on timing and range, after the attack is made he's kind of locked on to his current trajectory which is when you step and avoid the attack. If you step too early then he will lock on to you after you've stepped which means it will connect with you.
Wait, you can step EWGF? I'm assuming to your right? I'm always stepping to the left, against Kaz, because I know that can completely avoid the Hell Sweep from Kaz.
Kazuyas weak side is to his right, your left, so usually you sidestep left (Same for Heihachi and Devil Jin). Electrics were made faster so it's harder now, but still doable.
If you hold the button or tap twice before your character is able to move (recovering from block stun, hit stun, move) the game can sometimes read that as holding the button. The timing is a bit different depending on the connection between you and the opponent, try setting different connections in practice mode and stepping after blocking to get a feel for it.
Great video JDCR another thing I learned that I must share with you all. You must learn every character sidestep weaknesses for example when facing Jin Kuzama or any mishima if you step to your right it’s their weakness which sometimes can easily be punished. So if you want to get technical in understanding the game it’s very important to study frames and technique of each character. Somehow I realize in my online battles and training mode mids frame rate is faster than low attacks also why side stepping is important to even set up your opponent for tech trapping as well avoid the tracking attacks.
00:25 Actually, that guy had that question because Tekken 7 is the only Tekken where sidesteps sucks, or in other words: is not Tekken. So that guy doesn't even know the utility of the sidesteps because he didn't have an oportunity to use it properly. An example: 05:40 that's not a sidestep, it's a sidewalk, people tends to confuse them since Tekken 7 release. If you do a sidestep you will get hurt because sidesteps are pretty bad in this game, and microsidesteps doesn't exist anymore.
So there are no general rules to sidestepping any opponent. It's all dependent on knowing specific frame actions of all characters. What a nightmare. I love Tekken but I'm not going to waste that much brain power on what was a very easy tool to use in Tekken tag 1.
It's nice to see JDCR talk more in-depth in these recent videos now.
Go make katarina spam neutral 4 combo
I also fan of you i am op
"if you know it's coming and you can block and punish like any other low, what's the point of sidestepping anyway"
I see what you did there lmao
atpMurray
Looll he also said it came from a new player, bruhh the shade haha
JustBlockIt.exe
Not gonna lie, this r/wooosh -ed over my head at first. Now I get it. Just sidestep 4head
Umm, can someone explain the reference ? Tekken newbie here, thanks
5:38 Holy crap it was that simple, I always wondered how most people are always able to step around moves from so far away. Just wait 'till the opponent's close or is about to do their move and then step. Friggen duh. Shows that you can always learn no matter what skill level you're at
Yep, same here I was like I swear I feel like I can't step certain running moves.
The Murray reference though...
Secret golden comedy lore ^^
Ah yes my worst skill is getting upgraded
Same
Love this so much, wish someone explained things like this when I tried to learn Tag 2. When you said only sidestep moves -3 to +3 that was a total eyeopener, never heard that said before it was always very vague, "just sidestep bro." Also not being able to sidestep certain moves like Law db3, I always suspected that but because I didn't see the homing I thought I was just messing up. Appreciate things like this as someone who's struggled to learn Tekken for years due to lack of information online about the game from a technical standpoint.
Hey JDCR, thanks for the video! New player here, it was easy to understand and the explanations were clear and straight to the point. Keep making great content like this!
My favourite part so far. Please dont stop making these guides
Respect to u dude . U are the main reason I started playing tekken 🙏🇩🇿.
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I like how he says the benefit of sidestepping is firstly that it makes the opponent aware that you are using different options, and secondly that it allows you to punish options that they take. I feel like for most people, the order of benefits is reversed.
Depends who you are playing.
Against a beginner/newbie - "Why are my attacks always missing?! Why the fuck can't I hit him? Fuck it, let's just mash buttons faster so I can hit him"
Against an intermediate - "So he can sidestep, lucky prick."
Against a veteran - "Aight he knows how to sidestep, time to mix up the timing of my attacks and throw out different homing attacks here and there".
What I'm saying is, the benefits to sidestepping is available at all levels. The most people you are referring to are stuck between the newbie and intermediate stage.
@@BenTan89 There are a bunch of players who have absolutely zero defense, so their option is to just rush down and be aggressive af. I'm good, but not that good, so I usually have to match their energy and end up in a sloppy brawl lol. I say that to say yeah there are some players who you can't even try to employ some more advanced strats on because there's no method to their madness.
@@jamessummers5936 There is, it's called spacing and looking for openings. You don't have to kill them, you let them do it themselves.
You mention aggressiveness as their defense, sure of course - that's because it works against you and it's a legit strategy. Players who are mindlessly aggressive usually throw out moves that gives a lot of + frames, random launchers or mix in a frame trap or so for a CH. However if you realize that most of these moves are usually highs (which you can duck under) or slow mids which you SS, then that's all you need to do. There are lows which gives + frames too, but that's where you employ fuzzy guarding/parrying. If you take 1 round to realize they're flowcharting, that should be enough info for you to realize how to defend against mindless aggression. The fact that you said that you have to match their aggression by also being mindlessly aggressive says that you don't actually understand the game enough.
@@BenTan89 well said
Some good gems in this. Great stuff.
This was by far the best sudestepping tutorial ever made🙏🏼
I love these mini series. Good stuff!
you have to set the punish training to Hard in practice mode...i was practicing 4 hours straight just sidestepping after a while i was running around kazuya like he a amateur fighter he couldnt touch me i was just grabbing him from the side and from the back...this is the perfect tutorial,like JDCR said its all about the timimg and range,when you catch that feeling you learned how to sidestep correctly.
I dont know if you said something like this JDCR, but i attribute it to you anyways. "Why get hit, when you can avoid it entierly". Movement and sidestep is probably the skills i recognized earliest to be good at because of your matches😊
Fantastic Video! 10/10 Thank you for the beautiful subtitles!
Was the "new player" Michael Murray? lol
Lord JDCR
I love that laugh at 0:27 lmfaoooo you know when someone says something so ridiculous
I like the subtle advert for redbull
You the GOAT JDCR
thanks jcdr
great as always
This man is incredible!
Thing is, side step should also work on that initial jab to make it whiff. The whole point of sidestepping is to get out of the X axis, so the incoming attack whiffs. Virtua Fighter and Sould Calibur do it right, but in Tekken, X axis attacks always track, unless it has huge start up like the ones shown here, which makes the mechanic more situational than anything.
Awesome stuff.... what a great pro and human being. Much love from 🏴🏴🏴🏴👍🏾👍🏾
Tips from the best in the world
Thank you, i need to improve my steps and this was very informative. Thanks
Great tutorials jdcr!
5:15 i have this habit of doing doing ss further away. I didnt know that the tracking is huge when being in distance.
Pretty eyeopening when thinking about Heis ff2 for example that tracks u down bcs of the distance.
Sometimes it's good to sidestep from away, like if Law does his flying kick. Or Dragunov's running 2.
@@kapsi drags running 2 isnt a good example, bcs that shit tracks at certain distance just like Heis ff2. Laws dragon kick, yes.
A key point when sidestepping is never randomly do it. Always have the options your trying to deal with in mind, if the options your thinking of dont come out you adjust.. Always sidestep with purpose or you'll just get bad habits. The only other reason to step is aligning or dis-aligning the wall for you or your opponent but it has to be done carefully.
If you mean DSS f+4 which is the kick that comes out of his stance then you should duck it instead of stepping but if it's his wr3 then yes sidewalk it since its super linear. but drag's wr2 even though it was nerfed the more distance between you the more it will track.
that redbull though
How do you know if an attack is a +3 and therefore "side-steppable" ?
Great video
all the videos are very very good!!!
I needed this, thank you JDCR!
Why i cant sidestep after the df1 of Yoshimitsu like the other characters ?
Is Yoshimitsu very trash ?
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Komsumnidam
Really appreciate you taking the time to make the game more fun for us
Nice tutorial jdcr
영상 잘 봤습니다 잡다님
괜찮으시다면 횡가드에 대해서도 설명해주실 수 있을까요?
Bet 🔥🎯
Also better to sidestep than sidewalk I believe from previous JDCR videos due to frame advantage
They are good for different reasons, for example you should always sidewalk strings because if you just do one sidestep the string usually realigns with the hits.
Would better if can teach a controller version since not everyone have a joystick.
I'm very curious how you pro tekken sidestep majority of the hellsweep and block half of the rest in competition.
In some cases just duck because most of 8~10 frames jab moves are high.
Is that a red bull can next to his stick, did my boy jdcr get the sponsorship?
thanks for this, now ill lab
Huh, so I'm eating Drag's running 2 because I'm potentially walking/stepping too early?
Yeah, it depends on timing and range, after the attack is made he's kind of locked on to his current trajectory which is when you step and avoid the attack. If you step too early then he will lock on to you after you've stepped which means it will connect with you.
Wait, you can step EWGF? I'm assuming to your right? I'm always stepping to the left, against Kaz, because I know that can completely avoid the Hell Sweep from Kaz.
Kazuyas weak side is to his right, your left, so usually you sidestep left (Same for Heihachi and Devil Jin). Electrics were made faster so it's harder now, but still doable.
철권에서 횡신 타이밍은 마이너스~3+~3 사이가 가장 좋습니다 이게 요점임. 그러니 왼어퍼 원투같은거 하고 도는걸 추천
이제 잡다님은 철권 교수님 느낌이네
Nice thx..
Excelente
I always accidentally tend to jump or crouch twice if i tried to sidestep during online match. How is this possible? My inputs are correct :(
If you hold the button or tap twice before your character is able to move (recovering from block stun, hit stun, move) the game can sometimes read that as holding the button. The timing is a bit different depending on the connection between you and the opponent, try setting different connections in practice mode and stepping after blocking to get a feel for it.
gd reference
Great video JDCR another thing I learned that I must share with you all. You must learn every character sidestep weaknesses for example when facing Jin Kuzama or any mishima if you step to your right it’s their weakness which sometimes can easily be punished. So if you want to get technical in understanding the game it’s very important to study frames and technique of each character. Somehow I realize in my online battles and training mode mids frame rate is faster than low attacks also why side stepping is important to even set up your opponent for tech trapping as well avoid the tracking attacks.
Jin is right and the mishimas are left
0:25 atpMurray
Remember: Feng is weak to SSL
I am afraid that now Murray is gonna nerf every characater you play in tournaments these days.
잡다님 스틱하고 레버정보좀주실수잇나요??
영상에 있는건 hitbox 사 crossup 제품 입니다~1
@@tkjdcr 넘 감사합니다 팬이에요.. 스틱리부 보고왓어요 ㅎㅎ 레버는 뭘쓰시나요?? 똑같은거 사고싶어요 그리고 혹시 구매정보도좀 알려주실수잇나요?? 히트박스 크로스업을 어디서구매해야할질 모르겟네요
00:25 Actually, that guy had that question because Tekken 7 is the only Tekken where sidesteps sucks, or in other words: is not Tekken. So that guy doesn't even know the utility of the sidesteps because he didn't have an oportunity to use it properly.
An example: 05:40 that's not a sidestep, it's a sidewalk, people tends to confuse them since Tekken 7 release. If you do a sidestep you will get hurt because sidesteps are pretty bad in this game, and microsidesteps doesn't exist anymore.
Good thing im a ln eddy mains i dont need ss xd
4:49
My last wish is playing Tekken 7
Because I played all Tekken Series Game except Tekken 7
Hope someone?
Why sidestep everything tracks
Sup
Hi
Thanks u are cute one bro 🥰🥰
횡신 잘 쓰기 너무 어려워요 ㅠㅠ
하단을 쓸줄 알면 막으면 되지 뭐하러 횡을 치느냐 이거 머레이 멘트 아님?ㅋㅋㅋ
You need redbull to play better :)
So there are no general rules to sidestepping any opponent. It's all dependent on knowing specific frame actions of all characters. What a nightmare. I love Tekken but I'm not going to waste that much brain power on what was a very easy tool to use in Tekken tag 1.
I won't be scared to get hit. I will get hit and like it!!!