I have no idea why Jaguar designed it this way with a separate wire but I'm glad they did and I thank you for showing it. I read a test in a car magazine that showed the start/stop function in most cases only saves extremely little fuel so disabling it seems fine to me.
Blame the Evil European Union. This is them interfering in the minutiae of our lives commanding motor manufacturers to jump through all sets of hoops. On my XF it can be turned off from the panel button. My ThinkDiag OBDII dongle has settings for the start start/system
Fucking brilliant, that nearly put me off buying the car until I was told it was easy to disable, but I never knew how. You're a star. Love the bit about the spare wheel around 2:00 😂
Oh yeah, the main reason for it is because they have these mad rules in Uk/Europe about saving the planet, so higher polluting cars cost more to tax and so on. So they put these on to cut the overall emissions down, so they're cheaper to tax. If it's cheaper to tax more poeple will buy one. That's the theory anyways.
I usually like to use originally Jaguar / Land Rover parts, but this is the cabin filter I’m pretty much ecstatic about: Purolator PBC35667 PurolatorBOSS Premium Cabin Air Filter with Febreze Freshness (This is the one for the Jaguar XE) and some other Jaguar and Land Rover models... but it gets rid of any funny smells I really like these filters. Just an FYI :o)
Yeah man, great advice I’ve done exactly what you showed to do to get this annoying stop start permanently gone. I don’t know why you complaining about a spare wheel i have this repair kit rubbish person who came up with this idea about the repair kit should be locked up.
You had me at bright orange fkn tire lol. Liked the video at that point regardless if your solution worked or not 😂 And it worked perfectly thx. I also tried it on 2015 Jaguar XJ and it threw an bartery fault.
Good video as it is a pain turning it off all the time , just for your info the starter does not start the car in that mode it is done electronically by stopping the engine at almost Top Dead Centre .
Yeah... my stop/start never works! And I always get a low batteries message! They claim at the dealer they did a “software update” then they say they may look next time at the “secondary battery” but I think there is no secondary battery in my XE and the main battery is just bad?! (Thus the power management system stops the stop/start from working). I have (intentionally purchased) the diesel version, and average neat 50 MPG pen and paper and over 60 MPG on the display, but that is without the stop/start working, and I see at every light how the MPG’s count down while standing there 3 minutes each time... so I would love to see with a working stop start in it would bump it actually over 50 MPG actual MPG pen/paper method! I would not use it all the time, but some of the lights are pretty long here. (So I use my judgment as to where to engage or disengage the stop/start system). Other than that, I’m very happy with my Prestige 4WD 20D XE :o) Although the first 60k maintenance is included, I like to change the oil + filter every 5k, use also CERATEC BY LIQUI MOLLY, and I replace the cabin filter rather myself using the Purolator Boss filter for always fresh air in the Jaguar:o) I also like to replace the engine air filters more often as well ad the diesel fuel filter. Any knows about the “secondary battery”? Because I sure don’t find where it is!?
@@mikereynolds1368 thanks! I’ll check it out. Also I’m getting low battery start engine now on every trip I take... I think I’m just gonna buy a new main battery and maybe put an H8 instead of the H7 94R battery.... I bet an new main battery may already resolve a lot of issues, dealer equals... software upgrade... needs a good charge, maybe this maybe that..... I think I’ll start with replacing it myself and go from there. (In theory the battery is even under the 5 year warranty... but yeah, if the donkey doesn’t want...) Again thanks for your reply :o)
@@APPLEtv4VIERACAST that low battery warning is pretty common in jags. There was a forum post I read that explained why it happens. I can't remember which forum though. Iirc that error may not be anything to worry about. It's caused by how the electrical system and the sensor used to detect electrical issues is set up. I'd say have the battery tested before you drop the money on a new battery. Had a jaguar xf that kept giving that error. Replaced the battery and it still happened occasionally.
Interesting, once I got over the unnecessary expletives, - my XE stop start does not work, and you may have told me why - I for one would encourage the use of stop start, it reduces the emissions and saves fuel. Repeated activation does not wear out the starter - these systems have a good deal more thought put into them....
The more you have to start the car the sooner you wear it out, not just the starter but many othyer parts. It is not good for the car at all. Basic physics. On top of that, cars use a little extra fuel on startup so any emissions reductions are at best negligible anyway these days.
Stupid gimic. The fuel you use when stationary is almost nothing and you are right there is more cost in wear and tear to the starter system, Good vid thx.
I have 2018 xe, auto stop/start doesn't work and I brought my car 3 times to dealer to fix it but they were not able to fix it, it is ridiculous to change it to economy every time you start the car, that's annoying.
My stop/start thing stopped working about six months ago. I didn't notice it at first, but the car just behaves normally now, but it's never stopped on me.
Easharts did raise the question a year ago about this battery sensor.... Is it possible that the sensor may have other functions other than start/stop we all hate? Is it possible that we might lose the indication of battery condition?
I just changed my new secondary small battery for the start and stop on my 2013 XFS. Hope this works on mine as well coz its annoying and pointless restarting the poor engine every stop i make
I have a 2018 diesel, and I was told by the dealer that when you unplug this you are forcing the car to run in the lower rpm reduced power "winter" safety mode at all times. (Don't know if true.)
I tried this just now and unfortunately seems like Jaguar have updated the newer models so that it throws up a "Charging system error". I tried the hack where you unplug one of the connectors above the fuse box but its tricky to get access to and you really need to take off parts of the boot trim. I think the best option now is to turn off SS with coding. I have a Jag specialist lined up to do it next time it's getting work done. FML.
It is a odd feeling but in reality, the starter is designed with special bearings so it can withstand it. Or so I have read. Thanks. Mine never seemed to work and after searching the engine compartment, my friend said it was a batteryless car. I would bet mine is disabled as well.
Has anyone face any problems with electrical or the alternator failing by leaving this off? I'm concerned that it's just not connected to the start/stop and may be connected to other electrical which may get damaged.
The second battery is smaller it's in the engine bay.i believe it doesn't work great because they used a second battery that isn't powerful enough.done it on the cheap
Good information spoilt by unessesary expletives. By the way, the 'dings dings' were fitted because the American regulators demanded they are fitted years ago.
@@flots4570 Please do so at own risk. Blah blah blah.. 1.)turn on the ignition but do not start the engine. 2.) Buckle the driver's seat belt and ensure that the warning light is extinguished. 3.) Now unbuckle the driver's seat belt and wait until the warning light comes on. 4.) Repeat steps 2 and 3 eight more times. 5.) As the seat belt is unbuckled for the ninth time, a single chime will sound acknowledging that the seat belt minder has been disabled.
@@flots4570 This complete procedure must be completed within 60 seconds of the ignition being switched on. And you can repeat to turn back on. Worked for me on both 2013 and 2016 XFs
Right on - every time you start a car engine it's like hitting it with a sledge hammer. I've been trying to figure out how to turn that damn thing off for a long time. I hope the same thing goes for my wife's E-Pace. She hates it, too.
Sir as an Englishman can i Congratulate you on your use of the Kings English Swear Words.BRAVO.🇬🇧👍
I have no idea why Jaguar designed it this way with a separate wire but I'm glad they did and I thank you for showing it.
I read a test in a car magazine that showed the start/stop function in most cases only saves extremely little fuel so disabling it seems fine to me.
They did it so it was easily disabled. Same with the top speed limiter. 😉
@Planetzogg How can you disable the top speed limiter?
@@planetzogg1 how do you disable that???? The speed limiter
Blame the Evil European Union. This is them interfering in the minutiae of our lives commanding motor manufacturers to jump through all sets of hoops. On my XF it can be turned off from the panel button. My ThinkDiag OBDII dongle has settings for the start start/system
Hey, at least you got a spare tyre. Ours just came with a can of goo and a compressor 😂👍
Fucking brilliant, that nearly put me off buying the car until I was told it was easy to disable, but I never knew how. You're a star. Love the bit about the spare wheel around 2:00 😂
Oh yeah, the main reason for it is because they have these mad rules in Uk/Europe about saving the planet, so higher polluting cars cost more to tax and so on. So they put these on to cut the overall emissions down, so they're cheaper to tax. If it's cheaper to tax more poeple will buy one. That's the theory anyways.
Thank you so much. This fixed the annoying engine shut off. You are so funny and personable in your video.😅
Excellent video 😂
I just got my Jag XE...and that stop and start shit is aggravating. I really appreciate the video..thanks alot👍🏿
No complications when disconnected the plug?
Glad i came across this video, im going to look at an XE on saturday and was wondering how to disable the start/stop. Thank You
As that's the cable that let's the car know the condition of the battery. Does disconnecting that also prevent the remote/app features from working?
Picking up an XE this week , this will be the first thing I do 😎👍🏻
Did you do it? Would you recommend it? I just bought one and want to do it too
I usually like to use originally Jaguar / Land Rover parts, but this is the cabin filter I’m pretty much ecstatic about: Purolator PBC35667 PurolatorBOSS Premium Cabin Air Filter with Febreze Freshness (This is the one for the Jaguar XE) and some other Jaguar and Land Rover models... but it gets rid of any funny smells I really like these filters. Just an FYI :o)
Nice job, I like your blatant honesty. I will take your advise.
Oh man oh man oh man - what a top tip - I hate that poxy stop/start - Thank you. I'd say more but I got to get out and rip that bloody cable off.....
Don't work tho - brings up car charging error on dash
Thanks brother 🙏 this helped me me a lot. I have one and I love it too. Please share more it's not much about the XE on TH-cam.
Omfg i died when you started with that tire.😂😂
You are a lifesaver, just got ones of these
Yeah man, great advice I’ve done exactly what you showed to do to get this annoying stop start permanently gone. I don’t know why you complaining about a spare wheel i have this repair kit rubbish person who came up with this idea about the repair kit should be locked up.
You had me at bright orange fkn tire lol. Liked the video at that point regardless if your solution worked or not 😂
And it worked perfectly thx. I also tried it on 2015 Jaguar XJ and it threw an bartery fault.
Good video as it is a pain turning it off all the time , just for your info the starter does not start the car in that mode it is done electronically by stopping the engine at almost Top Dead Centre .
Ok so this can destroy the timing chain tensioner ???😊
Just checked my 17 Diesel, it has that as well, dont want to do it right now cause all of the snow on but thanks mate.
Awesome, that's a very annoying issue. Thank you
Yeah... my stop/start never works! And I always get a low batteries message! They claim at the dealer they did a “software update” then they say they may look next time at the “secondary battery” but I think there is no secondary battery in my XE and the main battery is just bad?! (Thus the power management system stops the stop/start from working).
I have (intentionally purchased) the diesel version, and average neat 50 MPG pen and paper and over 60 MPG on the display, but that is without the stop/start working, and I see at every light how the MPG’s count down while standing there 3 minutes each time... so I would love to see with a working stop start in it would bump it actually over 50 MPG actual MPG pen/paper method! I would not use it all the time, but some of the lights are pretty long here.
(So I use my judgment as to where to engage or disengage the stop/start system). Other than that, I’m very happy with my Prestige 4WD 20D XE :o)
Although the first 60k maintenance is included, I like to change the oil + filter every 5k, use also CERATEC BY LIQUI MOLLY, and I replace the cabin filter rather myself using the Purolator Boss filter for always fresh air in the Jaguar:o) I also like to replace the engine air filters more often as well ad the diesel fuel filter.
Any knows about the “secondary battery”? Because I sure don’t find where it is!?
I think the secondary battery is in the engine bay to the left. You can't miss it.
@@mikereynolds1368 thanks! I’ll check it out. Also I’m getting low battery start engine now on every trip I take... I think I’m just gonna buy a new main battery and maybe put an H8 instead of the H7 94R battery.... I bet an new main battery may already resolve a lot of issues, dealer equals... software upgrade... needs a good charge, maybe this maybe that..... I think I’ll start with replacing it myself and go from there.
(In theory the battery is even under the 5 year warranty... but yeah, if the donkey doesn’t want...)
Again thanks for your reply :o)
@@APPLEtv4VIERACAST that low battery warning is pretty common in jags. There was a forum post I read that explained why it happens. I can't remember which forum though.
Iirc that error may not be anything to worry about. It's caused by how the electrical system and the sensor used to detect electrical issues is set up. I'd say have the battery tested before you drop the money on a new battery.
Had a jaguar xf that kept giving that error. Replaced the battery and it still happened occasionally.
@@mikereynolds1368 ah ok... I’ll have it tested first than, just to make sure! Thanks for the info. Love my Jag though nevertheless:o)
Amazing, thank you , I will do it right now 😀
Works on the new Landrover Defender too , thanks man
Really that's cool thanks for the info.
I have an Alfa Romeo and very quickly tired of it stopping and starting so I just switched off with the on/off switch!!😁😁🇬🇧
Thank you very much, I will try this great thing
thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou
This has been bugging me for years. I did it on my ’17 and its green inside.
What a entertaining video! it helped but i couldn't get the fking plug out in a Evoque because there is not enough space for my fingers.
Interesting, once I got over the unnecessary expletives, - my XE stop start does not work, and you may have told me why - I for one would encourage the use of stop start, it reduces the emissions and saves fuel. Repeated activation does not wear out the starter - these systems have a good deal more thought put into them....
The more you have to start the car the sooner you wear it out, not just the starter but many othyer parts. It is not good for the car at all. Basic physics. On top of that, cars use a little extra fuel on startup so any emissions reductions are at best negligible anyway these days.
Thanks for the info, and also the car comes with a bright fkn orange tyre too lol 🤣
Stupid gimic. The fuel you use when stationary is almost nothing and you are right there is more cost in wear and tear to the starter system, Good vid thx.
That’s the battery management system you’ve disconnected ya goon. The alternator will be working a lot harder because of this :(
I decided to check on my car I have XF ( UK ) 2017, Yes, everything is correct and it is!!!
I have 2018 xe, auto stop/start doesn't work and I brought my car 3 times to dealer to fix it but they were not able to fix it, it is ridiculous to change it to economy every time you start the car, that's annoying.
My stop/start thing stopped working about six months ago. I didn't notice it at first, but the car just behaves normally now, but it's never stopped on me.
Nice
Easharts did raise the question a year ago about this battery sensor.... Is it possible that the sensor may have other functions other than start/stop we all hate? Is it possible that we might lose the indication of battery condition?
I got mine 2 years ago and its never worked ever. Should i get battery checkout done. Love from Scotland
Hello! You mean you never have to turn it off?
It's always been on but its never worked boss.
Probably temprature related up there bud lol. I think there is a cut temp? @paulmcpake2734
Brilliant video. Stop start us something put on cars to make it supposedly fuel efficient. Nonsense!! Thanks.
2:00 Same color as my sister's Mercedes 😄
If this still works on a 2024 FPace. I'll buy the car, If not. I'm not buying it.
😂😂😂😂I havnt seen mine yet hahaha that was too funny
I just changed my new secondary small battery for the start and stop on my 2013 XFS. Hope this works on mine as well coz its annoying and pointless restarting the poor engine every stop i make
Thanks Flots!
I have a 2018 diesel, and I was told by the dealer that when you unplug this you are forcing the car to run in the lower rpm reduced power "winter" safety mode at all times. (Don't know if true.)
I tried this just now and unfortunately seems like Jaguar have updated the newer models so that it throws up a "Charging system error".
I tried the hack where you unplug one of the connectors above the fuse box but its tricky to get access to and you really need to take off parts of the boot trim.
I think the best option now is to turn off SS with coding. I have a Jag specialist lined up to do it next time it's getting work done. FML.
Oh no
It is a odd feeling but in reality, the starter is designed with special bearings so it can withstand it. Or so I have read. Thanks. Mine never seemed to work and after searching the engine compartment, my friend said it was a batteryless car. I would bet mine is disabled as well.
oh yeah replacing starter would mean a total loss for a car in US
Hi i did exactly as you did on my jag xe, but it now says charging fault, do you know what it could be???
Oh ....no I never heard that before. I look back in comments and I don't see that from anyone
What year is yours?
Same here. Xe 2016 :/
Has anyone face any problems with electrical or the alternator failing by leaving this off? I'm concerned that it's just not connected to the start/stop and may be connected to other electrical which may get damaged.
I have not heard of any.. and I have not had any problems. It's just a connection to that. Nothing more
Nice, you have a space saver. I don't.
The second battery is smaller it's in the engine bay.i believe it doesn't work great because they used a second battery that isn't powerful enough.done it on the cheap
Ever get any issues doing this?
No but I heard jaguar has update that can cause problems with doing this now
Great help and now onnit like jag bonnet 🙄 😑
All 5he complaint issues were on the car at build , so when you paid for it , test drove it . The wheel and restart , lol why did you buy it ?
Are these cars reliable auto gearbox electric s
I would say yes,
if you have a flat battery the stop and start will not work, its the bms system working
The irony is I'm trying to switch mine on
Unfortunately it doesn't work on F Pace 2017...
Lol in the 18 months that I've had mine I have never had a problem with the auto start. Seems like an old people problem 😆
Will rhis work on a velar?
Not sure sorry
Good information spoilt by unessesary expletives. By the way, the 'dings dings' were fitted because the American regulators demanded they are fitted years ago.
Okay
Surprised that this wont throw a warning code
Would this work for a 2017?
I was able to turn off the no seatbelt dinging noise also on my XF
How?
@@flots4570
Please do so at own risk. Blah blah blah..
1.)turn on the ignition but do not start the engine.
2.) Buckle the driver's seat belt and ensure that the warning light is extinguished.
3.) Now unbuckle the driver's seat belt and wait until the warning light comes on.
4.) Repeat steps 2 and 3 eight more times.
5.) As the seat belt is unbuckled for the ninth time, a single chime will sound acknowledging that the seat belt minder has been disabled.
@@flots4570 This complete procedure must be completed within 60 seconds of the ignition being switched on. And you can repeat to turn back on. Worked for me on both 2013 and 2016 XFs
Let me know how it gors
Read the book, you just need to use the on/off button on the dash. What a waste video time.
Lol your an idiot. This is for people that want to not use this feature. Your an idiot, and rude. Read comments.
So this explains what is happening to my car the previous owner must have disabled it. I will look in the boot/ trunk to see 👀
Right on - every time you start a car engine it's like hitting it with a sledge hammer. I've been trying to figure out how to turn that damn thing off for a long time. I hope the same thing goes for my wife's E-Pace. She hates it, too.
if you disconnect this wire you just get warning's on the dash that the battery isent charging
Not on mine. Maybe yours .
I have had it this way for 3 years now. Never any warning ⚠️
You can dissable eco on off in settings
Lol
F Pace funktioniert einwandfrei
That's the f*king battery manage system sensor u just unpluged🤣So the battery charging system go nuts and turns into emerg mode😂
Am i the only one who had this issue where when you remove that cable , you can see an error on board saying No battery charging . In red
Oh wow I never had that.
Same Problem dude (
Dont worry i have a jag xe and my auto stop doesnt work, it did when i first had the car
Does it cause your car to have a rough idle!?
@@firelinks21 no nothing tbf its just seemless
mine too. haha. never worked since 1 year ago.
Yup same with me on a 2016 XF S