regarding the O2 level issue, it could also be a different scale were the percentage isn't the total in the atmosphere but the fraction of the normal oxygen amount. Thus 100% would just be the regular amount and 40% actually means 8.38% oxygen in the atmosphere.
I mean... If it's supposed to be 100% oxygen, then it would be relative percentages to some pressure amount to begin with. Cause... Even if it's 40% of normal operating atmospheric pressure, if it's 100% oxygen... It's still 100% oxygen. So no matter what's, it's some relative percentage.
I'd like to point out the fact that they had to seperately lower Chief's O2 levels, but when he manually restored the ships O2 it magically did the same in his suit. ?????
@@AnarchoQrow Another oversight... I assume... because the outside oxygen level increased above that of his suit's that it opened the rebreather to let fresh air in automatically. The suit does have some functions like that... but they didn't really explain it either.
Yeah, highkey, everything is way more deadly in the lore. Game plasma rifle: Eh Lore plasma rifle: War Crime creator Game Wraith: Hm, okay Lore Wraith: Survival is an illusion
The name "Wraith" came from the fact that if you saw one, you became a Wraith a second later. The mortars impact creates a 30 foot wide glowing glassy crater in whatever surface it hits.
My favorite part indeed. Because of game, rating and general atmosphere of hope, Covenant weapons always seem to underperform compared to Human weapons, when this is just not true. Here we are once again reminded that Human survival at the end of Halo 3 was essentially a miracle and it was not because of our technology or weapons that we survived. The Covenant maintained a technological and military superiority during the war in nearly all aspects of the conflict. When struck with plasma weapons you where lucky if you only got 3rd degree burns, as showcased in this scene, your survival chances even with armor are not particularly impressive, with Spartans and their advanced armor and shields being one of the very few military units that can engage the Covenant effectively and almost everything else being outclassed, outgunned and outpowered.
@@KillerOrca the Scorpion was one of the few highlights of UNSC combat doctrine. Weapons wise, the plasma mortar hits harder, but it is an indirect fire weapon and the Covenant relied too much on shields, so the wraith was comparatively unarmored. The Scorpions more traditional tank gun, was far more efficient in direct or near direct combat, where it's direct fire weapon shined, even if it wasn't as powerful as the plasma mortar.
The ak variants would have probably been chambered in 7.62x39 while the assault rifle is chambered in 7.62x51. They are not the same cartridge and the 7.62x51 already has more energy than the 7.2x39. What you said might still be true but I wanted to clarify that the ak and the assault rifle might have the same bullet caliber, but they do not fire the same cartridge.
That's exactly what I was thinking. The weapons the rebels used all seemed to use exclusively intermediate cartridges. That, and I'm sure there could be a bunch of advanced tech stuffed in that 7.62 NATO with UNSC funding.
7.62x39 and 7.62x51 fires the same bullet, the only difference is the bullet casing and x39 reaches 200 yards and x51 600 yards. Keep in mind that they might have bad ammo type in their AK's compared to the UNSC weapons that most likely uses a better ammo designed to penetrate armor much better then todays ammo. Like the bullet can be made better then 2022 bullets and capable to penetrate something the 2022 cant do. or they have more advanced gunpowder
Covenant shields also tend to be sectional, from my understanding, and proper aim for weaker shield areas MAY account for some more of the damage differences.
To be exact the MA5 Assault rifle fires the M118 FMJ-AP 7.62x51mm Nato round. This round weighs 11 grams and is being fired at a cannon rate of 905m/s The AK47 variants if they are 7.62x39mm have a muzzle velocity of 715m/s . So yeah the MA5 fires rounds at a significantly higher muzzle velocity than the AK47s /AKM's of the insurrectionist.
There would be no G issues if we base this on existing canon. Pelicans and pretty much by extension Condors have gravtic components to their drives as directly stated in Warfleet, other bits of lore directly state that gravity control systems are used to counter acceleration forces. Hence all UNSC dropships almost certainly have inertia control systems that would mitigate acceleration forces. This is hardly the first time we've seen infeasible acceleration out of UNSC small craft if they didn't have such systems either, the Longsword at the end of Halo 1 for instance has to have accelerated at an extreme rate to have escaped in time.
Let alone a giant Frigate like the In Amber Clad or the Foward Unto Dawn going from space to ground level and stopping all of it’s mass in 2 seconds to drop off a tank
@@B-SybrZaku-ThendHaloAirsofting Well it;s ALWAYS been clear the larger ships have such systems, but that wouldn't automatically mean smaller ones did too, although some of their behavior tended to imply it Warfleet made it explicit.
One thing that can’t be explained by the advancements in powder is that when the insurrectionist fired the chain gun it did nothing but when chief picked up the same gun it was suddenly lethal.
Poor writing and visuals aside, a plausible (questionable) explanation is that during that initial engagement Elite shields where at their maximum capacity and so could withstand greater punishment. Later, when the chief uses the same gun at a later point in time, the Elites shields have been depleted and cannot survive the punishment as they did before. Still bad writing, but this is at least a plausible explanation.
I doubt they had the chemical composition of the bullets in mind. It's as simple as "Main characters are better" considering Chiefs use of the chaingun is more effective than the innies use.
My issue with the "plot bullets" as I've dubbed them is that when chief picks up an insurectionist weapon, the turret, it was suddenly wildly more effective.
Considering the fact that 60 percent of the human body is water...well that can be accurate as it is possibly causing the water inside the human body to boil as well, causing a explosion.
Okay first of all that's not even how vaporization would work in a human body. Water permeates every part of our being, it's in our cells. It's not like an inner gel lining on a Spartan suit that would absorb heat and then boil you alive, or a bag of water that if not vented properly pops. If you get hit with something hot enough to turn water in your body to gas, YOU ARE PHYSICALLY BEING CONVERTED INTO A GAS. Flesh and all. There wouldn't be excess energy to cause a secondary explosion with enough energy to blow up or blow off anything as the heat/kinetic energy is being used to turn your flesh into a gas, and is how ablative armor works. Now that gas may be hot and also burn but without pressure it's just going to disperse and evaporate into the environment or flash fry flesh around it. Remember anything with excess pressure, say vaporized gas from your upper levels of tissue, is looking for equilibrium with the atmosphere around it and it's going to go through the path of least resistance. That's not going to be the rest of your intact limb. Which is also going to cook and further absorb more heat energy from the plasma. There still wouldn't be an explosion per se, just a hot gas cloud of your flesh and fluids expanding until it cools. Now depending on how focused the plasma was it could burn through or burn off a limb. But the idea of "we are water so explosion" wouldn't work when you're dealing with temperatures high enough to literally turn your flesh into gas.
I would imagine that the plasma round is more than just plasma. Possibly it is encased in a field, maybe like a magnetic field or bottle, and when that field breaks on a hit you get the flash vaporization and an explosion.
The portrail of covenant weapons and their brutality is the main bit of the show I actually find good, it's fucking great to see actually depicted on the silver screen if you would mind the pu
I'm gonna have to add that to my list of strange pet peeves... Someone calling a TV show or Webseries (or whatever you want to call it)... On the silver screen.
One of the many things i don’t like about it is the Plasma Pistol that was used to burn off the Elite head was literally untextured. There’s so many things that make the show feel like a great fan film
It wasn’t literally untextured, it was covered in sand because they did multiple takes of throwing it on the ground when props leave the prop department they’re finished They didn’t just grab one that wasn’t even done yet when they had a painted one that’s how films and shows are made, things like that don’t get overseen because it’s literally center frame
@@PackHunter117 why would they do that when there’s a painted prop that was in the actors hand 1 second before the shot. what’s more likely, they filmed multiple takes and the Eva foam got covered in sand or that a unfinished prop somehow managed to magically find it’s way from the warehouse onto the set, into the actors hand, go through hundreds of hours of editing and post production without anyone noticing? especially when it’s in center frame? it’s most likely just a continuity error and happens a ton even in very well made movies and TV all the time
@@alexanderfash7853 Yeah and if this is their best foot, I just hope it gets a lot better and not a GoT thing. So Martin made Elden Ring and wont finish his book so I see a pattern emergring here.
My biggest problem was some weird plot hole regarding space travel. First we see Covenant dropship. Fairplay. Where is it's mothership. Banshee escapes too. Both aren't slipspace capable. Next Pelican just cruising to Reach??
I feel the reason the AR was more effective was because, in the main canon the UNSC only really loaded AP rounds in all of their weapons due to contact with the covenant. Insurrectionists who use 500 year old rifles, probably happy to just have ammo really had no chance to break the elite Shields unlike the UNSC
Presumably hand-loaded ammo too considering their overall self-sufficency look. Nothing like the chemically perfected and balanced futuristic cordite Misrah uses.
The projectiles being AP has no bearing against their effectiveness against energy shields, which react to incoming kinetic energy (in its all various forms), velocity and mass of projectile is what gets through covvie shields. An AP projie would impart increased terminal ballistics against an Elite's armor underneath their shields once the shields are down, but do nothing extra prior to that.
@@Ihasanart You're right, but that's just seems to be how the EU treats it. (Although it's also key to remember that the MA-Series probably has more powder behind the bullet compared to the AK's that the Insurrectionists were using.)
One thing that confused me is that when the insurrectionists come into first contact with the elites, they are also unloading the mounted guns and they didn’t break the elites shields, but minutes later chief kills a group of elites with one of the two same guns by ripping it off the truck
Eh, another thing that I found to be absolutely dumb is when the father charged at the injured elite who had an energy sword while he had an AK. Guess they just needed her dad dead.
I think everyone's forgetting that Mjolnir armor stabilizes recoil. It also has an aim assist, so more ammo on a smaller target would crack the Elites' shields pretty quickly.
@@supafapitalism2172 but it’s a mounted chain gun that’s bolted to the bed of the truck, that’s be a little less or the equivalent of the Mjolnir stabilizers, so I don’t see why it didn’t crack any of the elites shields. Other than the writers wanting to show the power of the Spartans compared to the insurrectionists.
On the point of John's memory, in the book The Cole Protocol, Jai remembered how he was taken to see Dr. Halsey for his numerous escape attempts. She told him he could go home but they would have to inject him with a dart that would induce neural paralysis. Maybe that's what John is going through.
Should be noted a lot of Spartans don't remember their childhood. Even at 15 in the book Silent Storm chief remarks once "Don't call me son. I've been a soldier so long I don't even remember my dad, but I'm sure your not him!" And of course both Naomi-010 and Serin Osman in the K5 Trilogy have zero recollection of there childhoods until there files are released to them.
As a real life mechanical engineer and chemistry minor I love thing guys breakdowns if things and the science that he puts into science fiction. As an athletic nerd who loves Halo, I love your content mate
Finally, a TH-camr who has a generally positive take on this show. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed these first couple episodes. Minor issues in terms of pacing and other thing but otherwise it’s a pretty good interpretation on the Halo-verse
@@braydoxastora5584 It just doesn’t make any sense for memories of parents and following a dog to make anyone be anything but somewhat troubled. Not turn away from 20+ years of service for someone who is literally pointing a rifle at you with hostile intent.
I like your break down if the weapon differences. I had come to similar conclusions, except in the part where Cheif wields the minigun from the warthog (?) that had been fired and was ineffective when the elites came through the gate, except for him it just cut dudes down.
Master Chief did have some memories of his life before when he met a girl from his childhood in New Mombasa. This was in one of the Halo fractures stories
Not Fractures, that's a dumb excuse for all the lore-breaking armor 343 added to MCC, what you described was the Halo: Evolutions short story "Palace Hotel".
"The near-instantaneous transition of the liquid in our bodies to gas would be so sudden, it would be explosive" A phreatic eruption of flesh. Terrifying!
I think plasma could blow off limbs, but the effects are far to close to what gunpowder weapons could do. If they went the way a real plasma should work - i e burning off limbs in a flash - that would be both a nice cgi effect and give a clear indication of how dangerous plasma weapons are.
THERMITE, cause in the 40's there really was sticky bombs made from axel grease. Gunpowder by itself only has practical uses in bullet casings combined with more powerful mixtures of gunpowder inside that as well. Some have better impact and others go faster, while others yet explode on impact. The right mixture for the right job.
@@chrishill3536 Bone marrow is mostly water. The moment plasma hits a limb, everythings going to boil, and presumably the marrow in teh bones would detonate.
@@KillerOrca this, the reaction of something superheated like plasma would have extremely violent reactions. A smaller scale example would be throwing a waterbottle onto magma in real life would cause an explosion.
I actually really like the design of the condor in this show, it's got a good blend of classic pelican chassis and halo 4 style thrusters, while also making it actually look bigger than a pelican rather than a heavily modified one
i go to hiddenxperia for lore backgrounds and information on halo I go to halo cannon for reviews and stuff regarding halo and I go to you for the science breakdowns on technology regarding halo love the mix.
From what I have seen and read about the show, There are no reasonable qualities that can redeem it. Half painted or not painted at all props, SciFi Saturday CGI Circa 2005, Coordination with weapon handling, The lore being changed so that they can tell their own version of a story that has already been told, ("Silver Timeline" be damned, assholes set fire to a beloved story to tell their own.) The fact that the people involved with making the show a reality have never played the games or read any of the books/comics, Consistency issues around depth/distance and size, I can go on but it would turn into a brick. I got all of those points from comments and clips I have seen. Hell, I haven't even watched the first episode and probably won't. They say to no judge a book by its cover, but when a whole lot of people are saying it's a bad book, It's probably a bad book. Some people say that the importance of story telling isn't if it overwrites something that has already been told but instead it's the story itself, I call bullshit. There a DOZENS of other stories that they could have told. I've said this elsewhere, But where was Miranda during CE? Not going to touch the decision to cast people that don't fit the ESTABLISHED LORE(Fuck your silver timeline.) The exploits of S-312 are fucking MYSTERY. No one likes Agent Locke, So give us a story to start liking him. There are dozens of Badass ODSTs that have a story to tell. Johnson himself must have HUNDREDS. Instead we have the "Silver Timeline" because they didn't want to take the time to catch up on everything that has already happened and tell us a story of their creation in the existing universe. Why? They aren't bound by existing lore in the "Silver Timeline" They are free to their hearts content to make something they want with characters we know and love. It's lazy and shameful. Much like the quality of the show. Peace.
@@nomus1172 Not even the same color sand. Look, you're not going to change my mind about the show being trash. Had they stayed in universe, and did things better than the college kids who made the movies for sci-fi Saturday nights? People would think higher of it. They didn't. They won't. Just waiting for the season review.
I gotta be honest, I'm glad to hear a much more levelled and calm response to this series. It's not perfect, but I feel like a huge chunk of people are overreacting negatively. Thank you for being more realistic with this. It's nice to see.
Is it an overreaction that the creators literally said that they didn't look at the games and completely disregarded the preexisting lore? This show didn't need to be a Halo show, but it is because they wanted it to have the sex appeal of brand recognition. What they didn't want was to respect the source material or the fans. Now anyone who doesn't like it (rightfully) will be labeled as "toxic."
its not that, most people are upset that the people making the show have never played the games or read the books. (like why are you making a tv series about something you've never experienced? that's just asking for a pr disaster) that & there is so much established lore & places they could have gone to, that they could have easily made this canon. finally there was this unspoken rule that bungie sort of set down is that the mc is not allowed to reveal his face when he is not wearing his helmet. fingers crossed that it is good, because this could easily go down like the amazon's rings of power. or Disney's the last Jedi. that is the fear here.
@@cr90captain89 i mean i feel that all the ppl that accepted reach(the game) as lore replacing the excellent book and reeeee that it was bungies game can get stuffed. If its ok for one company to fuck over lore others can too. Bungie set the precedent.
Only thing about the difference between kill time for Spartans and insurrectionists that bothers me is that the insurrectionists couldn’t kill a single elite with a machine gun but Spartans could with the same one.
Agreed. Scene would've made more sense if say the elites charge in, do damage. One falls so they scatter. Then they could've caught the innies in a pincer with superb shielding and speed. Obliterate them as before and be shown a major threat. 1 dead elite for 50 people.
firstly i am so jealous, still not seen episode 1, but from what i have read and you have discussed here, i cannot wait and i am glad they have gone with a more mature kind of tv series, cannot wait
I'd love to see you make more videos about the silver timeline. I love that they put the show in it's own canon. It makes them able to explore and try out new and different things not before seen in halo. So if you get enough support to do it, I'd personally love to see more lore vids about the silver timeline :)
If I recall correctly in the first stages or scenarios of human covenant war, even the UNSC had issues with standard ammo. They had to use explosive and piercing rounds.
You seem to have misinterpreted the meaning of "7.62" 7.62 refers to either the diameter of the BORE or the diameter of the bullet, depending on the manufacturer of the cartridge/firearm, but it is NOT a universal caliber. what you see the insurrectionists using are AKM rifles, those are chambered in 7.62x39 (bullet diameter .331 inch), it's more than likely firing a 123 grain (7.97g) FMJ, which will have a muzzle velocity of about 2,300fps (700m/s) and an effective range of 500yd (460m). The assault rifle on the other hand is chambered in 7.62x51NATO (bullet diameter .308 inch), which they show us (look at the ammo bags) is the M118 AP cartridge. That is a 175gr (11.34g) boat tail FMJ-AP with a muzzle velocity of 2,550fps (778m/s) and an effective range of 800-1000yd (730-915m) Now, that's assuming there hasn't been a leap in cartridge design that makes them both more effective, but that's the data we have on them for 2022. Just a fun side note, the 12.7x40 round for the magnum is the rimless, auto pistol equivalent of 500 Smith&Wesson (12.7x41), not .50 Action Express (12.7x33) like some think it is. If I had to guess it's probably a 300gr (19.44g) bullet with a muzzle velocity around 2,200fps (670m/s)
regardless of the small arms of the insurrectionists being unable to take down a single Elite the sustained fire of the miniguns should at least have been able to do so.
I would gladly listen to you going more in-depth of the sliver universe and the regular cannon I enjoy your realistic breakdowns of both halo and modern human tech as always I love your vids
5:40 I love your explanation, but I think you are looking too far into it. It's just weird writing. Unless bullet technology improved drastically in the last 70 years of Halo, old low powered ammunition would be super rare and more of an expensive collector's piece.
Just see the use of the minigun: when the rebels use it (with all it's infrastracture intact on enemys stupid enough to stad there) they don't drop one of them, when chief use it he kill 3 elites.
@@federicor227 There was also an elite that somehow shoulder charged and flipped a 5,500 lb truck that was driving at it. I get that it looks cool, but it just isn't realistic.
@@cyberzerker3130 A spartan once picked up a mongoose and used it as a club, flipping a truck doesn't seem all that unlikely considering elites and spartans are roughly equal strength wise.
Only if you assume the new powder isn't way more expensive to produce or perhaps has shorter shelf-life/ is more fragile to rough storage and conditions. Since the old stuff is entirely adequate to kill other people, wildlife, etc the newer powders becomes an unnecessary expense and liability in any situation (read: the vast bulk of situations) where the absolute max raw kinetic performance is necessary. Another option he doesn't address though is that it could be that rather then better powder they could have better projectiles, perhaps somehow optimized for improved effects against shields despite similiar raw kinetic energy. This may be even a better explanation, because there would be no reason at all for such ammo to have existed before contact hence basically none of it is likely to exist outside UNSC stocks. But this is really all nonsense in the end. The reality is simply that it was a story contrivance to sell the one sided nature of the battle, ignoring that logically the weaponry being used really should've only been marginally less powerful then what the Spartans had and quite capable of killing Elites when applied in mass.
Considering that normal unaugmented humans utilize .50 caliber handguns without issue multiple times? I'd say SOMETHINGS changed. That and the main service rifle firing a full size battle rifle carterage, FULL AUTO for that matter. "Misrah Armories Patented Recoil Control System" is what my friends always called it.
Really good video. So good to see a intelligent and nuanced analysis of the show. I did the same on my TH-cam channel except without the science smarts.
Dude you could talk about the different varieties of screws, bolts, and other fasteners used on the Pillar of Autumn and I'd likely still watch it. Just the way you present the information is calming and chill.
That turret the MC takes to kill an elite, did nothing in the hands of the rebel commander, but the MC took it and immediately enchanted it with cursed weapon and made it the deadliest turret in human history.
I forgot it was first strike that was with Chief and crew returning back to Reach to rescue Halsey and the remaining survivors after hijacking a Covenant ship.
Tbh, I'm torn. I can't tell if the TV show used the same CGI as Halo: Landfall or Sharknado, it's hard to tell, but it's definitely the same writing team as Sharknado!
As an recreational scuba diver with an enriched air qualification you were nearly right with your air/oxygen and pressure explanation with a couple of minor exceptions. It's entirely possible to switch between normal air and 100% oxygen at sea level or lower pressure with the caveat that oxygen becomes toxic under pressure. Example: 100% oxygen at around a depth of 5 .6 meters is likely to give you seizures which, while not fatal, the high chance of your regulator coming out of your mouth during the seizure could be fatal. Normal air is toxic around 56 meters under water. High altitude aeroplane pilots get into their pressure suits (I'm thinking of U2 and SR71 here) and pre-breathe 100% oxygen at sea level pressure to get rid of the nitrogen in their bodies prior to boarding the aircraft and having the pressure reducing as they climb to altitude. Enriched air scuba divers regularly strap a tank of up to 40% oxygen to their backs and start breathing it with no ill effects (with an immediate descent to depth), and the same in reverse when they get out of the water. There are definitely dramas when you monkey with the gas pressure (regardless what the mixture is) too quickly as you correctly stated.
two things i noticed in watching the first episode. One, Chevy truck. Two, the Insurrectionists have the mini gun = no dead elites, chef rips it off the stand (bad ass) and takes out three very rapidly. Same gun same ammo...
I have mix views on how the story for the TV show is, but many other aspects such as most of the design aesthetics I do enjoy, and I'm able to accept it being in the "silver timeline". I'm overall cautiously optimistic about where the show will go. Also cool to see bring up all the scientific aspects of the tech in the show. I was surprised with how realistically brutal the plasma weapons were. I look forward for such note Instillation 00 may do on this.
Irrelevant topic but something I'd like to tell: The librarian said the gravemind couldn't comprehend the knowledge of the primordial. We see that the only neural physics it has is telepathy. And it's next stage the keymind gets more access to neural physics and it's still not the last stage. If the flood wasn't a failed attempt at reformation of the precursors they would have had all of their neural physics at the start. So the flood is a failed attempt for the precursors of reforming themselves out of dust.
Around 5:00 in you mentioned the rifle is chambered in 7.62. 7.62 is the width of projectile, not what the rifle is chambered. Are we talking 7.62x25 that was used in Soviet pistols? Or we talking about 7.62x60 (30-06) that was used in the m1 garand?
@@gmaninatrashcan7144 The Halo canon yes. AK's do not exist. In this show apparently AK's still exist even though it's almost 550 years since the gun was invented. So glad the show is not canon. I didn't get your original point my bad.
I think the thing to remember is the ammo that the unsc uses is 7.62x51 armor piercing explosive rounds while the aks the terrorists were using were probably just cheap 7.62x39 fmj that isn’t designed to pierce armor. And with the chain gun chief picked up, he probably was just able to shoot it better than them and actually get rounds on target to overload their shields. Just my take at least
I really appreciate your thoughts on the narrative and your approval of the TV series. A lot of people are crying about them going against the known lore of the Halo Universe. If they've been following this as close as I have they would have known before it even aired that they were going to go against what was known in the game and the typical Halo lore we've experienced over the past two decades. I'm just glad to see anything from the franchise make it to TV
I'm cautiously optimistic going forward with this show. Although I did have my own critiques, I feel a decent amount of the backlash is more of a knee jerk reaction. I'll be curious to see how the community as a whole perceives the show after the dust has settled and people are more level headed.
Being against race swaps, wanting chief to be the main character, pointing out flat out in consistencies within the show's own logic, and knowing the timeline were in already doesn't make sense. How are these criticisms to disregard disregard ed show knee jerk reactions?. Hell I was done when I saw a wooden unpainted plasma pistol make it into the final cut of a show with a budge of 10 million an episode.
I'm just reading the comments and I only saw the trailer and this video. It's a "I'm an amateur writer and need a popular character to get attention" show. I know because before they announced it I had never even heard of paramount +. In 1 minute of trailer I saw that the ONLY games with more tropes were ODST and 5
I always imagined the plasma being thick, creating a forceful impact whenever it lands on target, and then seeping into and burning the crevices and cavities of the body.
A little off topic. That shot where the Chief's face is shown, I think, is a mistake for two reasons. 1) It completely destroys Chief's mystique and severely undercuts his impact as a character who's heard but not seen. Showing us glimpses of his face here and there would have been fine, but a full-on mug shot just doesn't work for how his character is written. His face was revealed for the first time at the end of Halo 4 on Legendary, and it was only a half-second shot of his eyes. That way we got a connection to Chief that we never had before but didn't feel like his character was no longer a mystery. 2) The Chief is almost fifty years old and should have a battle-worn look, but this actor is about twenty years too young and shows absolutely no evidence of past injury. Unless his physiological augmentation slowed the aging process by at least half and heals even scar tissue, Chief looks like a fresh-faced college kid who thinks he owns the universe. Not to trash the casting choice, but I think someone like Dwayne Johnson has a body much more like I imagine Master Chief's would be.
"mystique" is a video gamer perspective. there are 2 main reasons the developers didn't show the face. 1) it's hard to render humans realistically back then. look at people like Sargeant Johnson and his cartoonish appearance. it's much easier to render a robot-like appearance (the Spartan Armor). 2) a video game has the gamer controlling the main character and becoming the main character. YOU are Master Chief. If you're a black gamer, it's harder to embody a blonde soldier. Of course, with books, you can't go an entire book without describing the character because authors need details to flesh out the story. So those details become canon.
The acceleration issues at least in the sense of inside the Condor, is that with the factor of having artificial gravity inside the ship (A normal pelican of the era to my knowledge does not have on board AG, but correct me if I'm wrong.) that likely means there are inertial dampeners meant to counteract at least enough force to keep someone from G-locking. Since you have a troop and cargo bay in a Condor with the ability to take that kind of acceleration, there'd be no point in letting it reach such speeds so quickly without any sort of dampening fields/tech in place.
Tbf, the elites had plot armor till Chief arrived. And suddenly the chain gun that didn't do anything held by an innie suddenly did something when chief held it
So going off of what other commenters have said regarding the differences in ammunition from the aks to ma5s. The biggest difference in power cones simply down to the size of the cartridge next the barrage lengths of each firearm. The aks have 16 to 20inch barrels while the ma5s have no less than a 20inch barrel but pretty sure they have 30 inch barrels. These two differences have a massive effect on how they perform and the amount of energy the rounds dump into a target
I think the Insurrectionists use whatever propellant they could find, maybe even hand-made gunpowder, while Spartans, being UNSC's top operatives, use the best equipment UNSC can offer, including high-quality propellants.
I would be interested if you did a breakdown lore and others for each episodes since you have an amazing knowledge of the halo universe and can extrapolate where things could go
The screen literally says "relative oxygen level" it just means 40% of "normal" oxygen (20% of air). Also why would the ship use pure oxygen, that's not even what they do nowadays, presumably they're just running "Earth air" mix in the condor like they do in the ISS.
Yes, I was under the impression NASA stopped using pure oxygen atmospheres after Apollo 1. And I immediately thought it was relative oxygen level as well, even without the context on the panel.
My issue about the weapon part is the turret. They were shooting them with no affect but the moment the chief uses the turret now is able to kill the elites
The chemical composition of your bullet charge is important but so is the strength of your weapon parts as well. We can make really spicy rounds today, but it will wear your weapon down much faster. The US Army originally made the new m855a1 round at around a 61,000 psi, but the m4a1 carbine works ideally with 51-55,000 psi, so it wore out the gas system and BCG much faster. But with humanity's advances in metallurgy in halo, things like Titanium-A alloy would make it possible to have small arms capable of using higher power rounds
Great video and intelligent analysis. For me it truly comes to one crucial point. Was it entertaining? Also, was it enjoyable to watch, and the HALO TV Show has definitely delivered for me. :) I've been a HALO fan for 18 years now.
Tbh the only thing may be that it’s obviously a bit campy but other than that it’s honestly pretty good so far and I’m glad we finally get to see the effects of plasma weaponry that was a personal pet peeve of mine lol.
two other points with the MA5 rifle the chief uses, he might be focusing his fire in one place to overload the shields. you can see that the militia is firing all over the place on the elites but when chief fires he focuses fire on the torso (remembering what CPO Mendez barked in boot camp "always aim for the center of mass). also in lore they talk about "shredder" rounds that absolutely drain elite shields and work quite a lot better than the FMJ or AP bullets, it would make sense that spartans would be equipped with shredder rounds to take down covenant elites and such, while insurrectionists would have AP rounds to combat UNSC marines or in rarer cases Spartans.
I liked to think that the UNSC just had the funding to outfit their military (Spartans especially) with state-of-the-art equipment and weapons and thus had been fine tuned to optimize Energy shield depleting capabilities. Keep in mind these rebels apparently thought the Covenant were “propaganda” while the UNSC had been R&Ding with covenant tech for probably decades.
Again regarding the O2 level, your logic is as far as I know exactly right (Wikipedia spec). It substantiates some of the logic for the higher O2 concentration atmosphere that lead to the Apollo 1 cabin fire. There's a lot of interesting engineering to be read about on this topic, such as how the spacecraft atmosphere is slowly purged of nitrogen to in turn purge nitrogen from the blood of the astronauts, and at which stages during space flight. Also, a nitrogen-oygen atmospheric mix was initially implemented, but was actually problematic due to a malfunction in the air feeds essentially dosing the astronaut with pure nitrogen. Like I say, there's lots of cool stuff to read about on this topic
Other technical issue in the show is that the writers use teleportation to move objects like people to places for their convenience, also ignore all protocol when it comes to military things in the sense when she says that's an order and the other Spartans just agree
regarding the O2 level issue, it could also be a different scale were the percentage isn't the total in the atmosphere but the fraction of the normal oxygen amount. Thus 100% would just be the regular amount and 40% actually means 8.38% oxygen in the atmosphere.
My thoughts exactly
I mean... If it's supposed to be 100% oxygen, then it would be relative percentages to some pressure amount to begin with.
Cause... Even if it's 40% of normal operating atmospheric pressure, if it's 100% oxygen... It's still 100% oxygen.
So no matter what's, it's some relative percentage.
I simply think this was an oversight or the person that wrote this didn't understand how much oxygen we actually use per breath.
I'd like to point out the fact that they had to seperately lower Chief's O2 levels, but when he manually restored the ships O2 it magically did the same in his suit. ?????
@@AnarchoQrow Another oversight... I assume... because the outside oxygen level increased above that of his suit's that it opened the rebreather to let fresh air in automatically. The suit does have some functions like that... but they didn't really explain it either.
Yeah, highkey, everything is way more deadly in the lore.
Game plasma rifle: Eh
Lore plasma rifle: War Crime creator
Game Wraith: Hm, okay
Lore Wraith: Survival is an illusion
The name "Wraith" came from the fact that if you saw one, you became a Wraith a second later. The mortars impact creates a 30 foot wide glowing glassy crater in whatever surface it hits.
My favorite part indeed.
Because of game, rating and general atmosphere of hope, Covenant weapons always seem to underperform compared to Human weapons, when this is just not true.
Here we are once again reminded that Human survival at the end of Halo 3 was essentially a miracle and it was not because of our technology or weapons that we survived.
The Covenant maintained a technological and military superiority during the war in nearly all aspects of the conflict. When struck with plasma weapons you where lucky if you only got 3rd degree burns, as showcased in this scene, your survival chances even with armor are not particularly impressive, with Spartans and their advanced armor and shields being one of the very few military units that can engage the Covenant effectively and almost everything else being outclassed, outgunned and outpowered.
@@Keemperor40K Tactics were the only saving grace against the Covenant; in direct combat, you were fucking hamburger.
@@KillerOrca the Scorpion was one of the few highlights of UNSC combat doctrine.
Weapons wise, the plasma mortar hits harder, but it is an indirect fire weapon and the Covenant relied too much on shields, so the wraith was comparatively unarmored.
The Scorpions more traditional tank gun, was far more efficient in direct or near direct combat, where it's direct fire weapon shined, even if it wasn't as powerful as the plasma mortar.
Well that's just to convey how powerful the Spartans are compared with regular people
The ak variants would have probably been chambered in 7.62x39 while the assault rifle is chambered in 7.62x51. They are not the same cartridge and the 7.62x51 already has more energy than the 7.2x39.
What you said might still be true but I wanted to clarify that the ak and the assault rifle might have the same bullet caliber, but they do not fire the same cartridge.
That's exactly what I was thinking. The weapons the rebels used all seemed to use exclusively intermediate cartridges. That, and I'm sure there could be a bunch of advanced tech stuffed in that 7.62 NATO with UNSC funding.
7.62x39 and 7.62x51 fires the same bullet, the only difference is the bullet casing and x39 reaches 200 yards and x51 600 yards.
Keep in mind that they might have bad ammo type in their AK's compared to the UNSC weapons that most likely uses a better ammo designed to penetrate armor much better then todays ammo.
Like the bullet can be made better then 2022 bullets and capable to penetrate something the 2022 cant do.
or they have more advanced gunpowder
Covenant shields also tend to be sectional, from my understanding, and proper aim for weaker shield areas MAY account for some more of the damage differences.
@@l4dhuntel the max effective range of those cartridges are VERY different.7.62x51 is waaaay more powerful.
To be exact the MA5 Assault rifle fires the M118 FMJ-AP 7.62x51mm Nato round. This round weighs 11 grams and is being fired at a cannon rate of 905m/s
The AK47 variants if they are 7.62x39mm have a muzzle velocity of 715m/s . So yeah the MA5 fires rounds at a significantly higher muzzle velocity than the AK47s /AKM's of the insurrectionist.
There would be no G issues if we base this on existing canon.
Pelicans and pretty much by extension Condors have gravtic components to their drives as directly stated in Warfleet, other bits of lore directly state that gravity control systems are used to counter acceleration forces. Hence all UNSC dropships almost certainly have inertia control systems that would mitigate acceleration forces. This is hardly the first time we've seen infeasible acceleration out of UNSC small craft if they didn't have such systems either, the Longsword at the end of Halo 1 for instance has to have accelerated at an extreme rate to have escaped in time.
Let alone a giant Frigate like the In Amber Clad or the Foward Unto Dawn going from space to ground level and stopping all of it’s mass in 2 seconds to drop off a tank
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Well it;s ALWAYS been clear the larger ships have such systems, but that wouldn't automatically mean smaller ones did too, although some of their behavior tended to imply it Warfleet made it explicit.
@@Tk3997 the fact they can walk in the condor in space proves it has gravity control systems.
Pretty much every airborne scene in the Shadows of Reach novel speaks against this. The team is basically constantly one huff of o2 away from G-loc.
One thing that can’t be explained by the advancements in powder is that when the insurrectionist fired the chain gun it did nothing but when chief picked up the same gun it was suddenly lethal.
Poor writing and plot armor.
Poor writing and visuals aside, a plausible (questionable) explanation is that during that initial engagement Elite shields where at their maximum capacity and so could withstand greater punishment.
Later, when the chief uses the same gun at a later point in time, the Elites shields have been depleted and cannot survive the punishment as they did before.
Still bad writing, but this is at least a plausible explanation.
@@Keemperor40K Except that they regenerate similarly to the Spartans.
But it’s the “silver” timeline so anything is possible.
Is it me or does the cgi look kind a weirdly bad a little for how much money they put?
@@Rebotified not just you, we all noticed
5:43 and before you are wrong here: when the rebels use the chaingun/gatling/minigun they don't kill anybody, when chief use it he kills 3 elite...
We never see if they kill an elite or not
This is what bugged me too!!!
@@bbailey1027 Best to just think there shields we're weaken.
@@richardpatterson4 I think it's best to think that the showrunners wanted to give the spartans some Mary Sue juice at the expense of making sense
@@bbailey1027 I mean this is how spartans are in the lore. The covenant are near unstoppable until they arrive.
I doubt they had the chemical composition of the bullets in mind. It's as simple as "Main characters are better" considering Chiefs use of the chaingun is more effective than the innies use.
My issue with the "plot bullets" as I've dubbed them is that when chief picks up an insurectionist weapon, the turret, it was suddenly wildly more effective.
Considering the fact that 60 percent of the human body is water...well that can be accurate as it is possibly causing the water inside the human body to boil as well, causing a explosion.
Yeah flash vaporization was a common occurrence when unarmored humans get hit with plasma
Okay first of all that's not even how vaporization would work in a human body. Water permeates every part of our being, it's in our cells. It's not like an inner gel lining on a Spartan suit that would absorb heat and then boil you alive, or a bag of water that if not vented properly pops.
If you get hit with something hot enough to turn water in your body to gas, YOU ARE PHYSICALLY BEING CONVERTED INTO A GAS. Flesh and all. There wouldn't be excess energy to cause a secondary explosion with enough energy to blow up or blow off anything as the heat/kinetic energy is being used to turn your flesh into a gas, and is how ablative armor works. Now that gas may be hot and also burn but without pressure it's just going to disperse and evaporate into the environment or flash fry flesh around it. Remember anything with excess pressure, say vaporized gas from your upper levels of tissue, is looking for equilibrium with the atmosphere around it and it's going to go through the path of least resistance. That's not going to be the rest of your intact limb. Which is also going to cook and further absorb more heat energy from the plasma.
There still wouldn't be an explosion per se, just a hot gas cloud of your flesh and fluids expanding until it cools. Now depending on how focused the plasma was it could burn through or burn off a limb.
But the idea of "we are water so explosion" wouldn't work when you're dealing with temperatures high enough to literally turn your flesh into gas.
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the heads up.
@@midnightfenrir so the limb turns into fart. Got it
I would imagine that the plasma round is more than just plasma. Possibly it is encased in a field, maybe like a magnetic field or bottle, and when that field breaks on a hit you get the flash vaporization and an explosion.
The portrail of covenant weapons and their brutality is the main bit of the show I actually find good, it's fucking great to see actually depicted on the silver screen if you would mind the pu
I'm gonna have to add that to my list of strange pet peeves... Someone calling a TV show or Webseries (or whatever you want to call it)... On the silver screen.
The covenant in this show is just the best
The prophets and the relation between mercy and that girl is awesome
Honestly this is the best thing I love about the series. It shows you how devastated and lethal the plasma weapons are.
One of the many things i don’t like about it is the Plasma Pistol that was used to burn off the Elite head was literally untextured. There’s so many things that make the show feel like a great fan film
It wasn’t literally untextured, it was covered in sand because they did multiple takes of throwing it on the ground
when props leave the prop department they’re finished
They didn’t just grab one that wasn’t even done yet when they had a painted one
that’s how films and shows are made, things like that don’t get overseen because it’s literally center frame
@@keoshi5740 You sure? It literally looked like it was just built and didn’t have any paint aps on it yet
@@PackHunter117 why would they do that when there’s a painted prop that was in the actors hand 1 second before the shot.
what’s more likely, they filmed multiple takes and the Eva foam got covered in sand
or that a unfinished prop somehow managed to magically find it’s way from the warehouse onto the set, into the actors hand, go through hundreds of hours of editing and post production without anyone noticing?
especially when it’s in center frame?
it’s most likely just a continuity error and happens a ton even in very well made movies and TV all the time
@@keoshi5740 or more likely that textured stuff post production and forgot that and given the cgi visuals it wouldn't surprise me they missed this
Although I have alot I dislike about the show I think the brutality is on point
I'd like for them to not do what Disney does and destroy everything that was great for new even worse stuff.
@@BlackMoonHowls absolutely especially with something as interesting with halo
@@alexanderfash7853 Yeah and if this is their best foot, I just hope it gets a lot better and not a GoT thing. So Martin made Elden Ring and wont finish his book so I see a pattern emergring here.
FFS Halo was rated M for YEARS, and we never got this level of brutality in the games, except when you dismember the flood forms.
My biggest problem was some weird plot hole regarding space travel. First we see Covenant dropship. Fairplay. Where is it's mothership. Banshee escapes too. Both aren't slipspace capable. Next Pelican just cruising to Reach??
They should have reached out to you to consult on this show. Your observations are on point as always
@@braydoxastora5584 Then why the hell are they making it
@@braydoxastora5584 one of the writers is a fan of the games tho
@@keoshi5740 And clearly they either got sidelined or their like of the games was weaker than their ego.
@@stubbornspaceman7201 Simple. What do the rich love more than anything? Money. And they'll do anything to get more of it.
@@midgetman4206 Unfortunately this is true
As far as the acceleration and G-forces, considering that the UNSC has A-grav, its probably fair to assume some degree of inertial dampening.
I feel the reason the AR was more effective was because, in the main canon the UNSC only really loaded AP rounds in all of their weapons due to contact with the covenant. Insurrectionists who use 500 year old rifles, probably happy to just have ammo really had no chance to break the elite Shields unlike the UNSC
Yep
Presumably hand-loaded ammo too considering their overall self-sufficency look. Nothing like the chemically perfected and balanced futuristic cordite Misrah uses.
Most likely, they only have access to civilian rounds, which are not as effective as the military ones.
The projectiles being AP has no bearing against their effectiveness against energy shields, which react to incoming kinetic energy (in its all various forms), velocity and mass of projectile is what gets through covvie shields. An AP projie would impart increased terminal ballistics against an Elite's armor underneath their shields once the shields are down, but do nothing extra prior to that.
@@Ihasanart You're right, but that's just seems to be how the EU treats it. (Although it's also key to remember that the MA-Series probably has more powder behind the bullet compared to the AK's that the Insurrectionists were using.)
One thing that confused me is that when the insurrectionists come into first contact with the elites, they are also unloading the mounted guns and they didn’t break the elites shields, but minutes later chief kills a group of elites with one of the two same guns by ripping it off the truck
Chief was milking that headshot multiplier
Yeah that's where I have issues. The AKs should have done damage, maybe taken a few more shots but would have knocked down an elite no problem.
Eh, another thing that I found to be absolutely dumb is when the father charged at the injured elite who had an energy sword while he had an AK. Guess they just needed her dad dead.
I think everyone's forgetting that Mjolnir armor stabilizes recoil. It also has an aim assist, so more ammo on a smaller target would crack the Elites' shields pretty quickly.
@@supafapitalism2172 but it’s a mounted chain gun that’s bolted to the bed of the truck, that’s be a little less or the equivalent of the Mjolnir stabilizers, so I don’t see why it didn’t crack any of the elites shields. Other than the writers wanting to show the power of the Spartans compared to the insurrectionists.
"Master Cheif, you mind telling what you doing in that T.V. show?"
"Sir, shooting on location"
On the point of John's memory, in the book The Cole Protocol, Jai remembered how he was taken to see Dr. Halsey for his numerous escape attempts. She told him he could go home but they would have to inject him with a dart that would induce neural paralysis. Maybe that's what John is going through.
Should be noted a lot of Spartans don't remember their childhood.
Even at 15 in the book Silent Storm chief remarks once "Don't call me son. I've been a soldier so long I don't even remember my dad, but I'm sure your not him!"
And of course both Naomi-010 and Serin Osman in the K5 Trilogy have zero recollection of there childhoods until there files are released to them.
As a real life mechanical engineer and chemistry minor I love thing guys breakdowns if things and the science that he puts into science fiction.
As an athletic nerd who loves Halo, I love your content mate
Finally, a TH-camr who has a generally positive take on this show. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed these first couple episodes. Minor issues in terms of pacing and other thing but otherwise it’s a pretty good interpretation on the Halo-verse
The chemical charge thing you mentioned is interesting, but then I thought back to the Halo 3 AR projectile speed and I had a good chuckle.
I’m just worried about the relationship between chief and the UNSC. Episode 1 was okay but I feel lots of information got skipped.
@@braydoxastora5584 It just doesn’t make any sense for memories of parents and following a dog to make anyone be anything but somewhat troubled. Not turn away from 20+ years of service for someone who is literally pointing a rifle at you with hostile intent.
There seem to be trying to make the UNSC plain evil and make the Covenant the good guys.
@@alphacenturi5117 yeah trying to make the UMSC evil I didn’t like
I like your break down if the weapon differences. I had come to similar conclusions, except in the part where Cheif wields the minigun from the warthog (?) that had been fired and was ineffective when the elites came through the gate, except for him it just cut dudes down.
Master Chief did have some memories of his life before when he met a girl from his childhood in New Mombasa. This was in one of the Halo fractures stories
Yeah she was in charge of holding defense against a scarab.
And he wanted to tell her it was him but obviously couldn't.
Not Fractures, that's a dumb excuse for all the lore-breaking armor 343 added to MCC, what you described was the Halo: Evolutions short story "Palace Hotel".
@@TruePacifist201 Ah yeah I couldn't remember which story bundle it was in
"The near-instantaneous transition of the liquid in our bodies to gas would be so sudden, it would be explosive"
A phreatic eruption of flesh. Terrifying!
Plasma blows off limbs, but the silver timeline blows.
I think plasma could blow off limbs, but the effects are far to close to what gunpowder weapons could do. If they went the way a real plasma should work - i e burning off limbs in a flash - that would be both a nice cgi effect and give a clear indication of how dangerous plasma weapons are.
THERMITE, cause in the 40's there really was sticky bombs made from axel grease. Gunpowder by itself only has practical uses in bullet casings combined with more powerful mixtures of gunpowder inside that as well. Some have better impact and others go faster, while others yet explode on impact. The right mixture for the right job.
well seeing how hot plasma can get blowing off limb is not hard to see.
@@chrishill3536 Bone marrow is mostly water. The moment plasma hits a limb, everythings going to boil, and presumably the marrow in teh bones would detonate.
@@KillerOrca it would be effect of flashing steaming of any liquids in the target area.
@@KillerOrca this, the reaction of something superheated like plasma would have extremely violent reactions. A smaller scale example would be throwing a waterbottle onto magma in real life would cause an explosion.
I actually really like the design of the condor in this show, it's got a good blend of classic pelican chassis and halo 4 style thrusters, while also making it actually look bigger than a pelican rather than a heavily modified one
i go to hiddenxperia for lore backgrounds and information on halo
I go to halo cannon for reviews and stuff regarding halo
and I go to you for the science breakdowns on technology regarding halo
love the mix.
Great video. Love all the details and background knowledge you gathered up and used to back up what you say. Keep it up.
From what I have seen and read about the show, There are no reasonable qualities that can redeem it.
Half painted or not painted at all props,
SciFi Saturday CGI Circa 2005,
Coordination with weapon handling,
The lore being changed so that they can tell their own version of a story that has already been told,
("Silver Timeline" be damned, assholes set fire to a beloved story to tell their own.)
The fact that the people involved with making the show a reality have never played the games or read any of the books/comics,
Consistency issues around depth/distance and size,
I can go on but it would turn into a brick.
I got all of those points from comments and clips I have seen.
Hell, I haven't even watched the first episode and probably won't.
They say to no judge a book by its cover, but when a whole lot of people are saying it's a bad book, It's probably a bad book.
Some people say that the importance of story telling isn't if it overwrites something that has already been told but instead it's the story itself,
I call bullshit.
There a DOZENS of other stories that they could have told.
I've said this elsewhere, But where was Miranda during CE?
Not going to touch the decision to cast people that don't fit the ESTABLISHED LORE(Fuck your silver timeline.)
The exploits of S-312 are fucking MYSTERY.
No one likes Agent Locke, So give us a story to start liking him.
There are dozens of Badass ODSTs that have a story to tell.
Johnson himself must have HUNDREDS.
Instead we have the "Silver Timeline" because they didn't want to take the time to catch up on everything that has already happened and tell us a story of their creation in the existing universe.
Why?
They aren't bound by existing lore in the "Silver Timeline" They are free to their hearts content to make something they want with characters we know and love.
It's lazy and shameful.
Much like the quality of the show.
Peace.
It was only a unpainted plasma pistol showed for 3 seconds
@@nomus1172 only.
How professional.
$10million and there is an unpainted prop.
Great defense.
I looked into it and the prop was painted but it was covered in sand and dirt from multiple takes Not all the weapons were cgi some were practical
@@nomus1172 Not even the same color sand.
Look, you're not going to change my mind about the show being trash.
Had they stayed in universe, and did things better than the college kids who made the movies for sci-fi Saturday nights?
People would think higher of it.
They didn't.
They won't.
Just waiting for the season review.
I’m kinda tired about how people saying how the show sucks . Just judge it when more episodes come out
I gotta be honest, I'm glad to hear a much more levelled and calm response to this series. It's not perfect, but I feel like a huge chunk of people are overreacting negatively. Thank you for being more realistic with this. It's nice to see.
Is it an overreaction that the creators literally said that they didn't look at the games and completely disregarded the preexisting lore? This show didn't need to be a Halo show, but it is because they wanted it to have the sex appeal of brand recognition. What they didn't want was to respect the source material or the fans. Now anyone who doesn't like it (rightfully) will be labeled as "toxic."
@Peak Aussieman Because using the word "woke" doesnt instantly discredit your comment, sure.
How so? Elaborate.
its not that, most people are upset that the people making the show have never played the games or read the books.
(like why are you making a tv series about something you've never experienced? that's just asking for a pr disaster)
that & there is so much established lore & places they could have gone to, that they could have easily made this canon.
finally there was this unspoken rule that bungie sort of set down is that the mc is not allowed to reveal his face when he is not wearing his helmet.
fingers crossed that it is good, because this could easily go down like the amazon's rings of power.
or Disney's the last Jedi.
that is the fear here.
@@cr90captain89 i mean i feel that all the ppl that accepted reach(the game) as lore replacing the excellent book and reeeee that it was bungies game can get stuffed. If its ok for one company to fuck over lore others can too. Bungie set the precedent.
The human the covenant took in is going to prove extremely problematic for me.
As it begs the question, why is the conflict still going on?
I remember seeing her on the very first halo Game. Said Not 1 soul ever hahahaa.
I started laughing at the title when the notification popped! Loving these videos
Keep up the good work man.
I liked this. It was a lot of fun. Your channel brings halo into our universe. Big fan.
Only thing about the difference between kill time for Spartans and insurrectionists that bothers me is that the insurrectionists couldn’t kill a single elite with a machine gun but Spartans could with the same one.
Agreed. Scene would've made more sense if say the elites charge in, do damage. One falls so they scatter. Then they could've caught the innies in a pincer with superb shielding and speed. Obliterate them as before and be shown a major threat. 1 dead elite for 50 people.
firstly i am so jealous, still not seen episode 1, but from what i have read and you have discussed here, i cannot wait and i am glad they have gone with a more mature kind of tv series, cannot wait
This was nice. I enjoyed the breakdown of the series ep1.
Maybe it's just me playing too much Mass Effect, but your sign-off gets me every time.
"Find peace in the --embrace of the goddess-- DOMAIN! FUCK!"
Why didn't Neill Blomkamp was able to do the Halo movie?
I'd love to see you make more videos about the silver timeline. I love that they put the show in it's own canon. It makes them able to explore and try out new and different things not before seen in halo. So if you get enough support to do it, I'd personally love to see more lore vids about the silver timeline :)
If I recall correctly in the first stages or scenarios of human covenant war, even the UNSC had issues with standard ammo. They had to use explosive and piercing rounds.
You seem to have misinterpreted the meaning of "7.62"
7.62 refers to either the diameter of the BORE or the diameter of the bullet, depending on the manufacturer of the cartridge/firearm, but it is NOT a universal caliber.
what you see the insurrectionists using are AKM rifles, those are chambered in 7.62x39 (bullet diameter .331 inch), it's more than likely firing a 123 grain (7.97g) FMJ, which will have a muzzle velocity of about 2,300fps (700m/s) and an effective range of 500yd (460m).
The assault rifle on the other hand is chambered in 7.62x51NATO (bullet diameter .308 inch), which they show us (look at the ammo bags) is the M118 AP cartridge. That is a 175gr (11.34g) boat tail FMJ-AP with a muzzle velocity of 2,550fps (778m/s) and an effective range of 800-1000yd (730-915m)
Now, that's assuming there hasn't been a leap in cartridge design that makes them both more effective, but that's the data we have on them for 2022.
Just a fun side note, the 12.7x40 round for the magnum is the rimless, auto pistol equivalent of 500 Smith&Wesson (12.7x41), not .50 Action Express (12.7x33) like some think it is. If I had to guess it's probably a 300gr (19.44g) bullet with a muzzle velocity around 2,200fps (670m/s)
regardless of the small arms of the insurrectionists being unable to take down a single Elite the sustained fire of the miniguns should at least have been able to do so.
T enjoyed 1st episode can’t wait for the next! Interested to see where they take this story!
What sold me on this show was: 1.Plasma blows you up. 2. Elites hit almost exactly like a truck.
I would gladly listen to you going more in-depth of the sliver universe and the regular cannon I enjoy your realistic breakdowns of both halo and modern human tech as always I love your vids
Wasn’t it mentioned in canon that the master chief’s whole calf was shot off by plasma but he was still able to move around because of mjolnir?
the elite at 6:49 has a total oh look shiny face.
5:40 I love your explanation, but I think you are looking too far into it. It's just weird writing. Unless bullet technology improved drastically in the last 70 years of Halo, old low powered ammunition would be super rare and more of an expensive collector's piece.
Just see the use of the minigun: when the rebels use it (with all it's infrastracture intact on enemys stupid enough to stad there) they don't drop one of them, when chief use it he kill 3 elites.
@@federicor227 There was also an elite that somehow shoulder charged and flipped a 5,500 lb truck that was driving at it. I get that it looks cool, but it just isn't realistic.
@@cyberzerker3130 A spartan once picked up a mongoose and used it as a club, flipping a truck doesn't seem all that unlikely considering elites and spartans are roughly equal strength wise.
Only if you assume the new powder isn't way more expensive to produce or perhaps has shorter shelf-life/ is more fragile to rough storage and conditions. Since the old stuff is entirely adequate to kill other people, wildlife, etc the newer powders becomes an unnecessary expense and liability in any situation (read: the vast bulk of situations) where the absolute max raw kinetic performance is necessary.
Another option he doesn't address though is that it could be that rather then better powder they could have better projectiles, perhaps somehow optimized for improved effects against shields despite similiar raw kinetic energy. This may be even a better explanation, because there would be no reason at all for such ammo to have existed before contact hence basically none of it is likely to exist outside UNSC stocks.
But this is really all nonsense in the end. The reality is simply that it was a story contrivance to sell the one sided nature of the battle, ignoring that logically the weaponry being used really should've only been marginally less powerful then what the Spartans had and quite capable of killing Elites when applied in mass.
Considering that normal unaugmented humans utilize .50 caliber handguns without issue multiple times? I'd say SOMETHINGS changed.
That and the main service rifle firing a full size battle rifle carterage, FULL AUTO for that matter.
"Misrah Armories Patented Recoil Control System" is what my friends always called it.
This show so far has the most satisfying deaths of both the humans and the elites
Really good video. So good to see a intelligent and nuanced analysis of the show. I did the same on my TH-cam channel except without the science smarts.
Dude you could talk about the different varieties of screws, bolts, and other fasteners used on the Pillar of Autumn and I'd likely still watch it. Just the way you present the information is calming and chill.
The Sig Spear modern US Army rifle has a chamber pressure unbelievably beyond what every old 5.56 round or ww2 round had
Thank you so much for mentioning about the condor! I saw that and was like "how is she awake!?"
Can any one else find episode 2 for season one for points of note?
Plasma pistol: I'm only good for combos, or one off emps.
Plasma pistol in silver timeline: Pog just murdered my son.
Its the same in the books, a single plasma pistol shot can burn through the chest plate of early Mojnir armor, let alone the human body.
its like the halo ce one, a charged shot oneshots unshielded elites. you can even see the plasma pistol overheat an pop the "slide"
I would LOVE to hear you also do a breakdown of the episodes including silver timeline lore by the way
That turret the MC takes to kill an elite, did nothing in the hands of the rebel commander, but the MC took it and immediately enchanted it with cursed weapon and made it the deadliest turret in human history.
I forgot it was first strike that was with Chief and crew returning back to Reach to rescue Halsey and the remaining survivors after hijacking a Covenant ship.
Tbh, I'm torn. I can't tell if the TV show used the same CGI as Halo: Landfall or Sharknado, it's hard to tell, but it's definitely the same writing team as Sharknado!
As an recreational scuba diver with an enriched air qualification you were nearly right with your air/oxygen and pressure explanation with a couple of minor exceptions.
It's entirely possible to switch between normal air and 100% oxygen at sea level or lower pressure with the caveat that oxygen becomes toxic under pressure. Example: 100% oxygen at around a depth of 5 .6 meters is likely to give you seizures which, while not fatal, the high chance of your regulator coming out of your mouth during the seizure could be fatal. Normal air is toxic around 56 meters under water.
High altitude aeroplane pilots get into their pressure suits (I'm thinking of U2 and SR71 here) and pre-breathe 100% oxygen at sea level pressure to get rid of the nitrogen in their bodies prior to boarding the aircraft and having the pressure reducing as they climb to altitude.
Enriched air scuba divers regularly strap a tank of up to 40% oxygen to their backs and start breathing it with no ill effects (with an immediate descent to depth), and the same in reverse when they get out of the water.
There are definitely dramas when you monkey with the gas pressure (regardless what the mixture is) too quickly as you correctly stated.
two things i noticed in watching the first episode. One, Chevy truck. Two, the Insurrectionists have the mini gun = no dead elites, chef rips it off the stand (bad ass) and takes out three very rapidly. Same gun same ammo...
I have mix views on how the story for the TV show is, but many other aspects such as most of the design aesthetics I do enjoy, and I'm able to accept it being in the "silver timeline". I'm overall cautiously optimistic about where the show will go.
Also cool to see bring up all the scientific aspects of the tech in the show. I was surprised with how realistically brutal the plasma weapons were. I look forward for such note Instillation 00 may do on this.
I just released that you haven't done a Most Detailed on the Condor yet
Irrelevant topic but something I'd like to tell:
The librarian said the gravemind couldn't comprehend the knowledge of the primordial.
We see that the only neural physics it has is telepathy.
And it's next stage the keymind gets more access to neural physics and it's still not the last stage.
If the flood wasn't a failed attempt at reformation of the precursors they would have had all of their neural physics at the start.
So the flood is a failed attempt for the precursors of reforming themselves out of dust.
Around 5:00 in you mentioned the rifle is chambered in 7.62. 7.62 is the width of projectile, not what the rifle is chambered. Are we talking 7.62x25 that was used in Soviet pistols? Or we talking about 7.62x60 (30-06) that was used in the m1 garand?
Neither- they were using ak’s which are 7.62x39 or could be using the smaller 5.45 round. MA5B’s use 7.62x54.
@@gmaninatrashcan7144 The Halo canon yes. AK's do not exist. In this show apparently AK's still exist even though it's almost 550 years since the gun was invented. So glad the show is not canon. I didn't get your original point my bad.
could the forerunner thingy be an upgrade seed?
I think the thing to remember is the ammo that the unsc uses is 7.62x51 armor piercing explosive rounds while the aks the terrorists were using were probably just cheap 7.62x39 fmj that isn’t designed to pierce armor. And with the chain gun chief picked up, he probably was just able to shoot it better than them and actually get rounds on target to overload their shields. Just my take at least
9:06 as "Librarian" was planning all of this, that may explain it
When the Elite opened the door and started blasting. It reminded me of No Russian
Looking forward to the inveitable full-view blamite supercombine?
I really appreciate your thoughts on the narrative and your approval of the TV series. A lot of people are crying about them going against the known lore of the Halo Universe. If they've been following this as close as I have they would have known before it even aired that they were going to go against what was known in the game and the typical Halo lore we've experienced over the past two decades. I'm just glad to see anything from the franchise make it to TV
I'm cautiously optimistic going forward with this show. Although I did have my own critiques, I feel a decent amount of the backlash is more of a knee jerk reaction. I'll be curious to see how the community as a whole perceives the show after the dust has settled and people are more level headed.
Being against race swaps, wanting chief to be the main character, pointing out flat out in consistencies within the show's own logic, and knowing the timeline were in already doesn't make sense. How are these criticisms to disregard disregard ed show knee jerk reactions?. Hell I was done when I saw a wooden unpainted plasma pistol make it into the final cut of a show with a budge of 10 million an episode.
I'm just reading the comments and I only saw the trailer and this video. It's a "I'm an amateur writer and need a popular character to get attention" show. I know because before they announced it I had never even heard of paramount +. In 1 minute of trailer I saw that the ONLY games with more tropes were ODST and 5
Would you mind talking about slipsace and coms in the show
I always imagined the plasma being thick, creating a forceful impact whenever it lands on target, and then seeping into and burning the crevices and cavities of the body.
I think this halo series'is set in a different timeline and universe from cannon halo.
BRING IT!
A little off topic. That shot where the Chief's face is shown, I think, is a mistake for two reasons.
1) It completely destroys Chief's mystique and severely undercuts his impact as a character who's heard but not seen. Showing us glimpses of his face here and there would have been fine, but a full-on mug shot just doesn't work for how his character is written. His face was revealed for the first time at the end of Halo 4 on Legendary, and it was only a half-second shot of his eyes. That way we got a connection to Chief that we never had before but didn't feel like his character was no longer a mystery.
2) The Chief is almost fifty years old and should have a battle-worn look, but this actor is about twenty years too young and shows absolutely no evidence of past injury. Unless his physiological augmentation slowed the aging process by at least half and heals even scar tissue, Chief looks like a fresh-faced college kid who thinks he owns the universe. Not to trash the casting choice, but I think someone like Dwayne Johnson has a body much more like I imagine Master Chief's would be.
Tbh. Given alternate timeline and just ditching og chief anyways. May as well have got the Rock.
"mystique" is a video gamer perspective. there are 2 main reasons the developers didn't show the face. 1) it's hard to render humans realistically back then. look at people like Sargeant Johnson and his cartoonish appearance. it's much easier to render a robot-like appearance (the Spartan Armor). 2) a video game has the gamer controlling the main character and becoming the main character. YOU are Master Chief. If you're a black gamer, it's harder to embody a blonde soldier. Of course, with books, you can't go an entire book without describing the character because authors need details to flesh out the story. So those details become canon.
The acceleration issues at least in the sense of inside the Condor, is that with the factor of having artificial gravity inside the ship (A normal pelican of the era to my knowledge does not have on board AG, but correct me if I'm wrong.) that likely means there are inertial dampeners meant to counteract at least enough force to keep someone from G-locking. Since you have a troop and cargo bay in a Condor with the ability to take that kind of acceleration, there'd be no point in letting it reach such speeds so quickly without any sort of dampening fields/tech in place.
12:28 not having seen the episode yet, seing Chief with ought his helmet is so cursed
With a beard too!! 😂
Tbf, the elites had plot armor till Chief arrived. And suddenly the chain gun that didn't do anything held by an innie suddenly did something when chief held it
So going off of what other commenters have said regarding the differences in ammunition from the aks to ma5s. The biggest difference in power cones simply down to the size of the cartridge next the barrage lengths of each firearm. The aks have 16 to 20inch barrels while the ma5s have no less than a 20inch barrel but pretty sure they have 30 inch barrels. These two differences have a massive effect on how they perform and the amount of energy the rounds dump into a target
Hope to hear from you after each episode.
Absolutely want to see your full breakdown of episode 01.
I think the Insurrectionists use whatever propellant they could find, maybe even hand-made gunpowder, while Spartans, being UNSC's top operatives, use the best equipment UNSC can offer, including high-quality propellants.
I would be interested if you did a breakdown lore and others for each episodes since you have an amazing knowledge of the halo universe and can extrapolate where things could go
The screen literally says "relative oxygen level" it just means 40% of "normal" oxygen (20% of air). Also why would the ship use pure oxygen, that's not even what they do nowadays, presumably they're just running "Earth air" mix in the condor like they do in the ISS.
Yes, I was under the impression NASA stopped using pure oxygen atmospheres after Apollo 1.
And I immediately thought it was relative oxygen level as well, even without the context on the panel.
My issue about the weapon part is the turret. They were shooting them with no affect but the moment the chief uses the turret now is able to kill the elites
The chemical composition of your bullet charge is important but so is the strength of your weapon parts as well. We can make really spicy rounds today, but it will wear your weapon down much faster. The US Army originally made the new m855a1 round at around a 61,000 psi, but the m4a1 carbine works ideally with 51-55,000 psi, so it wore out the gas system and BCG much faster. But with humanity's advances in metallurgy in halo, things like Titanium-A alloy would make it possible to have small arms capable of using higher power rounds
I would definitely like to hear your commentary on the episodes lore in general, such as hearing your thoughts on the burst/scopeless DMR
Great video and intelligent analysis. For me it truly comes to one crucial point. Was it entertaining? Also, was it enjoyable to watch, and the HALO TV Show has definitely delivered for me. :) I've been a HALO fan for 18 years now.
My only complaint in the AK 7.62x39 vs unsc assault rifle 7.62x51 argument is there's a rpk that they thought to add but never showed having effect
Tbh the only thing may be that it’s obviously a bit campy but other than that it’s honestly pretty good so far and I’m glad we finally get to see the effects of plasma weaponry that was a personal pet peeve of mine lol.
What’s the music at the end of the video?
two other points with the MA5 rifle the chief uses, he might be focusing his fire in one place to overload the shields.
you can see that the militia is firing all over the place on the elites but when chief fires he focuses fire on the torso (remembering what CPO Mendez barked in boot camp "always aim for the center of mass).
also in lore they talk about "shredder" rounds that absolutely drain elite shields and work quite a lot better than the FMJ or AP bullets, it would make sense that spartans would be equipped with shredder rounds to take down covenant elites and such, while insurrectionists would have AP rounds to combat UNSC marines or in rarer cases Spartans.
I liked to think that the UNSC just had the funding to outfit their military (Spartans especially) with state-of-the-art equipment and weapons and thus had been fine tuned to optimize Energy shield depleting capabilities. Keep in mind these rebels apparently thought the Covenant were “propaganda” while the UNSC had been R&Ding with covenant tech for probably decades.
Again regarding the O2 level, your logic is as far as I know exactly right (Wikipedia spec). It substantiates some of the logic for the higher O2 concentration atmosphere that lead to the Apollo 1 cabin fire. There's a lot of interesting engineering to be read about on this topic, such as how the spacecraft atmosphere is slowly purged of nitrogen to in turn purge nitrogen from the blood of the astronauts, and at which stages during space flight. Also, a nitrogen-oygen atmospheric mix was initially implemented, but was actually problematic due to a malfunction in the air feeds essentially dosing the astronaut with pure nitrogen. Like I say, there's lots of cool stuff to read about on this topic
Other technical issue in the show is that the writers use teleportation to move objects like people to places for their convenience, also ignore all protocol when it comes to military things in the sense when she says that's an order and the other Spartans just agree