OMG, whoever picked this one really wanted to scramble your brains. The tune alternates between 4/4, 19/16, and 21/16 time signatures, and Vinnie Coliuta on drums is absolutely nuts. Just grip the armrests and enjoy the ride. This is FZ at his complex best.
For us mortals, 19/16 is the same as the 4/4 with 3 extra 16ths. The 21/16 is 5/4 with one extra 16th. They meet only one 16th short of 25 bars. This signature was used only for the studium version, as they were not able to replicate it on stage (there are some people who managed to do it, using click track).
"Here comes that screamin' sowiiiind again" haha what a track! You have now been introduced to the legendary Vinnie Colaiuta, one of the greatest drummers to ever walk this earth and he is still killin it to this day. Nobody handled FZ's crazy time signatures quite like he did
In his autobiography FZ gave Vinnie the award for being the drummer that could best interpret wacky tuplets on the fly, and play a complimentary figure with the "eyebrows". That is FZ's term for playing with the right 'tude, btw...
In order to fully appreciate the work, Joe's Garage Acts I,II, and III need to be listed to in it's entirety, start to finish, without interruption. It will take about a two hour bite out of your life to do it, but you will never regret it, and at least once or twice during that time you will utter the phrase, "How the fuck is he doing that??" It is a Rock Opera, and you only understand the message if you hear it all. Doesn't have to be a reaction video, just do it for yourselves. It is an incredible piece of work.
@@SightAfterDark As they say in some of the songs, "It's a way of Life, you'll Love it". Its the musical with songs about groupies, exploitation by Religious cults, music being made illegal, and sexual acts with household appliances that you never knew you needed.
I believe the bass player is Arthur Barrow who played with Zappa from the late 70s to early 80s. As you liked this song you should really check out "City of Tiny Lights", the live version (1977 Halloween) featuring Adrian Belew on vocals, is really a great version. Side note: Adrian Belew is a legendary guitarist whose known for his amazing guitar tone. I'm really fond of his 80s-2000s solo work such as "Looking for a U.F.O.", "Birds", or "1967".
@@jayburdification Oh yea, for solo Adrian Belew Lone Rhinoceros is excellent. I first discovered Belew by listening to Zappa and I fell in love with his first 8 or 9 albums. I never really got into his newer stuff for some reason. But songs like: Young Lions, Inner Revolution, Birds, Big Blue Sun, The Gulf In The War Between Us, The Rail Song, Burned By The Fire We Make.... (Trust me, I could easily keep going.) LOL I'm a guitarist so naturally I'm very attracted to his playing style but most of all his sound. Belew is known as a genius for the huge variety of different guitar tones he's able to come up with. I also love his song writing, at least for those first 8 or 9 albums. He reminds me a lot of The Beatles. Very catchy songs that stick in your head.
This song is peak xenochrony -- Frank would take a tape of one of his live guitar solos, isolate it, and then write a whole new song around the live solo. You get a song that sounds totally wild and improvised on the spot (because it was) and also tightly composed and planned (also because it was). This whole album is full of that technique and every guitar solo on the album except for Watermelon in Easter Hay uses it.
I think Rubber Shirt from Sheik Yerbouti is peak xenochrony. The bass and drum parts are two completely unrelated pieces then edited together and yet somehow it works.
Amazing production, another of franks live solo's put into a totally different track, recorded in 78/9. Franks recording skills where immense Lovin your channel. Keep well from England
love this and all things Frank. Loved your reactions. Frank was a genius. His music was light years ahead then, is now and will be in the future. This is me sitting sitting on the fence about Frank, lol.
Watching the reactions of people the first time they hear Joe's Garage is always fun. Years and years ago I took a friend of mine to his first Grateful Dead show and before the show they played Joe's Garage on the PA. It was a trip explaining the whole album concept to my friend and watching his reaction. He definitely got " IT ". Then after awhile the Dead came on and he got " IT " too. To this day he still talks about that day. He got Zapped so to speak! A few hours of musical enlightenment can last a lifetime!!
Xenochrony full blown: Frank and the INSANE rhythm section playing in entirely different time signatures. maybe one of frank’s most characteristic and typical solos. and I LOVE those lyrics… Thanks for reacting to such a great piece xx
Arthur Barrow on Bass...and the One and Only Vinnie Colaiuta on Drums! Frank said he did not think nature would produce another organism like Vinnie Colaiuta, he was so good it was ridiculous!
Vinnie plays the drum part which is in 19/16. Sometimes he plays a backbeat on 2 and 4 making it sound like 4/4 with 3/16 or 5/4 with 1/16 missing. Other times he does a 7/16 5/16 and 7/16 thing. I think Scott Thunes is the bassist on this. At least he played it sometimes and you can find video of him playing it online.
Barrow plays on this. But I'd love a Zappa band backbone consisting of Thunes and Colaiuta. Regretably, it never happened. (Not too late for a cover band with them, though.)
"Lube from the north..." And then band quotes two seconds from a 1940s melody, "Midnight Sun" which of course is the same melody they used in the Nanook suite, just before the lyrics "strictly commercial". Frank the musicologist!
Joe's Garage and Shiek your Buti were both recorded in the studio. Frank used all of the instruments from various live recordings. Drums,guitar, and all the other instruments were mastered on a 64-channel system . Only the voices were live.
Storyline context: this song follows "Dong Work For Yuda". At this point in the storyline "Joe" is in prison. Joe's Garage I, II, + III really need to be listened to straight through for yourselves for full context. But, for review purposes a great stand alone song would be "Lucille", a classic Zappa love song. Blessings!
Well said! Set aside just under two hours, have the lyrics available as the entire story of Joe will unfold. I envy you that ride for the first time!! A long listen but my personal favorite track is Packard Goose. Hope you give it a listen sometime! Now somebody get that guy a Puppers lol [I hope somebody gets that reference :-) ]
@Zolar Czakl Nope, different reference lol (Thank you Mike Muir though. Great tune, Institutionalized!) Puppers is a beer from the Hulu show "Letterkenny" and that line is oft used there. Awesome Canadian comedy. Highly recommended! Y'all have a good one!
@@SightAfterDark Can I suggest you "Bobby Brown" & also "Torture never stops"? It's 2 of a lot of others Zappa songs that the words are very significatives
@@SightAfterDark I am going to go out on a limb here, I have a sneaking suspicion that both of you have a lot more Zappa on your own playlists now. Maybe I am wrong, I don't know. I think you both get Frank. There are no ex Zappa fans. You are a Zappa fan for life!!!
The guitar solo is Xenochronised. Meaning it was taken from a from a live show 1979 tour & super imposed w the bass & drums. It never actually occurred. Shout out to the appreciated Warren Cuccurullo my buddy from Brooklyn who also inspired much of the Joe's garage trilogy.
I saw Frank at the Turn of the Century in Denver around 1984 and they opened the show with this tune. It was fast and loud and commanded a respect for the band. They all are on time. No room for drugs on that stage !
saw an interview with Frank where he said he would rather make instrumental music but unfortunately people seem to like words with there music so if i have to write words i might as well write something that amuses me or interests me
please delete if too long. frank pioneered xenochrony starting in the early 60's. from the wiki he explains: A classic "Xenochrony" piece would be "Rubber Shirt", which is a song on the album. It takes a drum set part that was added to a song at one tempo. The drummer was instructed to play along with this one particular thing in a certain time signature, eleven-four, and that drum set part was extracted like a little piece of DNA from that master tape and put over here into this little cubicle. And then the bass part, which was designed to play along with another song at another speed, another rate in another time signature, four-four, that was removed from that master tape and put over here, and then the two were sandwiched together. And so the musical result is the result of two musicians, who were never in the same room at the same time, playing at two different rates in two different moods for two different purposes, when blended together, yielding a third result which is musical and synchronizes in a strange way. That's Xenochrony. And I've done that on a number of tracks.
@@SightAfterDark well, he certainly wasn't the first artist to mix time signatures, but he took the concept to another level entirely. he often took isolated tracks from years or even decades apart and put them together. and in his own inimitable way, created music where the drums and bass, for example, play off each other wonderfully in a way that musicians in particular will recognize, except it never actually happened.
I remember reading excerpts of an interview after the release of this album, where he (FZ) talked about the atrocities in Iran, especially the banning of certain music. It might have been after Sheik Yerbouti,, but I believe it was after Joe's Garage. Bottom line is his music was an advocacy and expression of freedom. As mentioned to one of your previous videos, Zappa was a genius and a master of composition. Anything he made was unparalleled.
Zappa was a staunch supporter of the 1st amendment,.......even went before Congress over censorship of some of his albums. They wanted warning labels or some shit.
@@SightAfterDark Quote: "Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST" ~ FZ
Around the time this album came out Frank Zappa did an interview on a weekly national radio show. He described his music as a cross between journalism and vaudeville. I certainly can't argue with that.
Yes, this is a great rhythm section. Everybody knows Vinnie Colaiuta is an extraterrestrial. Frank gave him the Grand prize for the best drummer. And (almost) all the drummers Frank had were world class. Arthur Tripp, Ainsley Dunbar, Ralph Humphrey, Chester Thompson, Terry Bozzio, Chad Wackerman... It couldn't get any better. Even Jimmy Carl Black was a very very interesting player. The bass player here is Arthur Barrow. Unfortunately Arthur didn't´t receive the credit he deserves. He, Vinnie and Frank made the best power trio. If you want to know how a group of musicians work as a unit, listen for example those solos on Shut up and play your guitar (e. g. The deathless horsie). These are true musicians who are listening to each other and reacting creatively to what is going on. Within such framework Frank's guitar storytelling flies high..
This is a concept album and if I recall correctly Joe's in jail during this song. Yeah, should probably just sidestep those lyrics. Priceless reaction just the same. lmao
Another song with great lyrics is "Any Kind of Pain" on his Broadway the Hard Way album. First verse: You are the girl somebody invented In a grim little office On Madison Av They were specific They made you terrific Blonde hair, Nice clothes See her, she blows She's so important 'cuz she gets to do talk shows. You'd take any kind of pain Wouldn't you, baby (2x) Since you haven't got a brain, let me just explain Any Kind of Pain Is never a maybe. This was played by the large band in 1988 that had 5 Horns. Live recording.
this song gives me some "rump relief"..... love this song..... so stupid and dirty but also nerdy math-like complicated.... I tried to dance to this song once and broke both my ankles. I tried to play this on our living room stereo with my dad home sometimes...... I'd leave the house, after putting it on loud..... then wait to hear how long it took for him to turn it off... and I'd wait to hear what swear words he chose.... my dad hated Frank maybe most of all.... maybe that's partly why I like him as much as I do. this song reminds me of that line from the Amadeus movie.... "there's too many notes."
Fran was 100% right when he said a jail for all the criminals from the music industry.....in there there is the king of the ''plookers''...a man named Piddly...aka....puff daddy's
Yeah, Freaking Vinnie!! Curious, I wonder, have a question we all want answered. Do you have lyrics available when you react? Are you seeing them? Cant tell. Anyway, Stellar. Thanks for Keeping Frank out there.
@@SightAfterDark Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Roll it over 'n grease it down I'll drive you through the heart of town Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Roll it over 'n grease it down I'll drive you through the heart of town Good women, they sure has it tough Good men, well there just ain't enough Good girls are lookin' all the time Good men is something that they can't find If they find one miraculously They try to be lovin' as they can be 'Cause if they find one and let him go Chances are they might not never find no mo' So they keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Roll it over 'n grease it down I'll drive you through the heart of town Grease it down Grease it down (Gimme some grease!) Grease it down (Please!) Grease it down Grease it down (I want some grease, baby) Grease it down Grease it down Grease it . . . A good lovin' man is hardest to find A good woman needs to ease her mind I know a few that need to ease it behind All y'gotta do is grease it down 'N everything is fine Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Roll it over 'n grease it down I'll drive you through the heart of town A girl don't need No fancy grease To get herself Some rump release Any kind Of lube'll do Maybe from another Part of you Lube from the North Lube from the South Take a little slobber (Take a little slobber!) From the side of your mouth Roll it over Grease it down Here come that crazy Screamin' sound . . . Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy Roll it over 'n grease it down I'll drive you I said I would drive you I said I was gonna drive you All the way how-hown
People keep saying that, but Frank played songs from this live all the time, and to my knowledge never performed the whole thing. Maybe we get lucky and one day Dweezil will attempt it, he has played whole albums in concerts, and this one would be a hoot! The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, but the parts are pretty damn good on their own too.
@@Peter-K Hey man, true, I think most people at shows are happy to hear whatever they can, but they probably know the albums inside and out. For a new listener, it may be okay, but in context it has much more meaning, like you said, yes, of course, listening to ANY ZAPPA is awesome, so maybe I should just enjoy THAT! Just trying to hip the young people to *albums," in case they do not know... The song order is a big thing for the artists, and something like Yellow Snow Suite, well, you know...
@@SightAfterDark Yes, it is a life story, like a play or something, on record. Zappa called his stuff, "alternative entertainment," other than that, who knows what to call it, it's Zappa! And thanks for your reactions, of course... Excellent.
A fresh truckload of dizzying W.T.F!!! Just messing with the squares, kids, siddown, gimme a sec, always a few dropping by 'round this time lately. Nobody dood it better.
FZ's lyrics were certainly secondary to the music, but they were not just thrown together to fill up space. Lost in his musical prowess was his mastery of language, the man could spin a tale...and melodically at that. Songs like Trouble Every Day and most of the songs from his first few albums were as politically relevant as they were musically off the wall. His satirical abilities were at the forefront in songs like Cosmic Debris and Pojama People, to name just a couple. The entire 3 album set of Joe's garage tells a grand story, and this one was just a sliver. If you heard all that led up to this song, the relevance of the lyrics would be entirely different for you. A couple of his lyrical excursions that they should listen to are Titties and Beer and The Legend of the Illinois Enema Bandit from Zappa in New York, the former mainly lyrics with just a simple background melody, and the other an epic live performance of a song only Zappa could have wrote. Just saying, don't diminish his lyrical skills even though the music is the driving force behind it.
@@SightAfterDark absolutely the music is the main focus, but there are plenty of lyrics he wrote that actually do convey a strong message. Most of his lyrics were spawned from his experiences performing on the road, musicians, groupies, hippies, and a plethora of American subcultures were fodder for the stories he chose to tell. Though he said he preferred all instrumental music, he used his lyrics to throw shade at many things. Love is the subject of most music, so he avoided it and distilled it down to sex instead. He has a few 'love' songs, but I always saw them as sarcastic, more of a parody piece than your typical love song. He released a song called 'Jewish Princess' (Really nasty lyrically) and was asked to apologize for it by the Anti-Defamation League. He replied to their request with this, "Unlike the unicorn, such creatures do exist - and deserve to be 'commemorated' with their own special opus.' He was utterly unapologetic for what he said or did, he was about as Un-PC as someone could be. He has a lot of songs that no other artist would ever consider a subject for song lyrics, and he especially liked to skewer what he considered the 'mass stupidity' that is the undercurrent of American culture, or lack thereof. Once you get to hear some of these songs you will see what I mean. I hope that clarifies what I was saying, but I responding to the comments you made to the effect that he could have used any lyrics and it wouldn't matter, that is not really the case. He was a driven man, and I doubt there was anything he did that he did not plan out meticulously, and that includes his lyrics. You just haven't heard enough yet to see it, but I am sure you will.
@@Peter-K Excellently well said. You pretty much nailed it. That being said, one should also keep in mind that Frank said more than once that his motto was "anything, anytime, anywhere", and that he had a sardonic sense of humor. So, it wasn't beyond him to very occasionally do something just to be silly. Edit: I'm not necessarily speaking about anything on this album (except perhaps 'Green Rosetta'). I'm mostly commenting in general terms.
Dan, I was laughing with you. Perfect reaction 😂 Sifa, regarding to your reaction I was wondering if you heard any souind at all and your headphone was dowin. 🙄🤣
@@SightAfterDark you nailed it. There are several time signatures going on at the same time. Rick got some expert on his video to count it. It was baffling to me.
Sifa looked like The Most Uncomfortable Person Ever when she was hearing the words LOL Do Not Listen to "Bobby Brown Goes Down" or "Broken Hearts are for Assholes" you may be scarred for life!!!!!
Wisdom of the sages. Always count on Frank for good advice. The lyrics, as crazy as they are, fit into the storyline on this double concept album. You'd have to play it through for context.
Zappa was often, though not always, about the music. Songs like "Disco Boy," "Cocaine Decisions," "The Slime," and "Flakes" certainly had intended messages.
The bassist is Arthur Barrow, not Scott. He came later. Arthur had the distinction of being one of FZ's "clonemeisters"; the guy that knew the music so well he ran the fist half of rehearsal before Frank showed up. Scott was the clonemeister for the '84 and '88 tours. Bass players are quite often MDs aren't they? Here is Vinnie talking about the groove. th-cam.com/video/w2wj8Jj7VFE/w-d-xo.html
Frank Zappa was a fan of obscure R&B singles with dirty lyrics, he said they provided much better sex ed than what was taught in schools when he was young, I suppose when he started writing his own lyrics he was just paying it forward.
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OMG, whoever picked this one really wanted to scramble your brains. The tune alternates between 4/4, 19/16, and 21/16 time signatures, and Vinnie Coliuta on drums is absolutely nuts. Just grip the armrests and enjoy the ride. This is FZ at his complex best.
It was interesting to say the least!
For us mortals, 19/16 is the same as the 4/4 with 3 extra 16ths. The 21/16 is 5/4 with one extra 16th. They meet only one 16th short of 25 bars. This signature was used only for the studium version, as they were not able to replicate it on stage (there are some people who managed to do it, using click track).
Since this is Xenochrony,this never happened but it did.
I know that mist people won't appreciate the difference but, the 19/16 and 21/16 is over the top of 4/4.
Frank was a genius at mixing highbrow musicianship with lowbrow lyricism.
"Here comes that screamin' sowiiiind again" haha what a track!
You have now been introduced to the legendary Vinnie Colaiuta, one of the greatest drummers to ever walk this earth and he is still killin it to this day. Nobody handled FZ's crazy time signatures quite like he did
Lol crazy time signatures is right! Especially in this one
In his autobiography FZ gave Vinnie the award for being the drummer that could best interpret wacky tuplets on the fly, and play a complimentary figure with the "eyebrows". That is FZ's term for playing with the right 'tude, btw...
And it earned Vinnie a mention in Catholic Girls....
@@njwheels22 HA!
Terry Bozzio is great too. Black Page #1 and #2
In order to fully appreciate the work, Joe's Garage Acts I,II, and III need to be listed to in it's entirety, start to finish, without interruption. It will take about a two hour bite out of your life to do it, but you will never regret it, and at least once or twice during that time you will utter the phrase, "How the fuck is he doing that??" It is a Rock Opera, and you only understand the message if you hear it all. Doesn't have to be a reaction video, just do it for yourselves. It is an incredible piece of work.
Thanks John! Will definitely check it out at some point!
born 64..probably 8000 listenings and counting..and my son as me..
@@SightAfterDark As they say in some of the songs, "It's a way of Life, you'll Love it". Its the musical with songs about groupies, exploitation by Religious cults, music being made illegal, and sexual acts with household appliances that you never knew you needed.
All so true Joe's is so good.
Arthur Barrow played bass. He and Vinnie Colaiuta are extraterrestrial in this tune
“A girl don’t need no fancy grease to get herself some rump release.”
Enough said about what’s causing the screaming sound.
Lol yup makes sense now
@@SightAfterDark yup true class!
The amazing Arthur Barrow is on bass on this album, he's the same guy that was playing bass on the Chunga's Revenge live video that you 2 reacted to.
Beautiful! Thanks Kris!
@@SightAfterDark Your welcome
This song works best within the context of hearing the entire album. Well, that's internet showbiz, folks!
lol thanks Phillip!
I believe the bass player is Arthur Barrow who played with Zappa from the late 70s to early 80s. As you liked this song you should really check out "City of Tiny Lights", the live version (1977 Halloween) featuring Adrian Belew on vocals, is really a great version.
Side note: Adrian Belew is a legendary guitarist whose known for his amazing guitar tone. I'm really fond of his 80s-2000s solo work such as "Looking for a U.F.O.", "Birds", or "1967".
Thanks!
Lone Rhinoceros from 1982 is the one you want.
@@jayburdification Oh yea, for solo Adrian Belew Lone Rhinoceros is excellent. I first discovered Belew by listening to Zappa and I fell in love with his first 8 or 9 albums. I never really got into his newer stuff for some reason. But songs like: Young Lions, Inner Revolution, Birds, Big Blue Sun, The Gulf In The War Between Us, The Rail Song, Burned By The Fire We Make.... (Trust me, I could easily keep going.) LOL
I'm a guitarist so naturally I'm very attracted to his playing style but most of all his sound. Belew is known as a genius for the huge variety of different guitar tones he's able to come up with. I also love his song writing, at least for those first 8 or 9 albums. He reminds me a lot of The Beatles. Very catchy songs that stick in your head.
Ive seen Adrian with Zappa, Bowie and Talking Heads in the late 70s in Dallas.
This song is peak xenochrony -- Frank would take a tape of one of his live guitar solos, isolate it, and then write a whole new song around the live solo. You get a song that sounds totally wild and improvised on the spot (because it was) and also tightly composed and planned (also because it was). This whole album is full of that technique and every guitar solo on the album except for Watermelon in Easter Hay uses it.
I think Rubber Shirt from Sheik Yerbouti is peak xenochrony. The bass and drum parts are two completely unrelated pieces then edited together and yet somehow it works.
What a Genius!
Amazing production, another of franks live solo's put into a totally different track, recorded in 78/9. Franks recording skills where immense
Lovin your channel.
Keep well from England
Thank you! Keep well from NYC
FYI: The solo is from the City of Tiny Lites, March 31st, 1979.
love this and all things Frank. Loved your reactions. Frank was a genius. His music was light years ahead then, is now and will be in the future. This is me sitting sitting on the fence about Frank, lol.
Lol thanks so much for watching Paul!
100% Paul. Couldn’t agree with you more sir 👏👏👏👏
Watching the reactions of people the first time they hear Joe's Garage is always fun. Years and years ago I took a friend of mine to his first Grateful Dead show and before the show they played Joe's Garage on the PA. It was a trip explaining the whole album concept to my friend and watching his reaction. He definitely got " IT ". Then after awhile the Dead came on and he got " IT " too. To this day he still talks about that day. He got Zapped so to speak! A few hours of musical enlightenment can last a lifetime!!
What an enlightening day for your friend! Shoutout to you for expanding his musical horizons!
Vinnie steals the show on this album,incredible drumming.
And you finally get to experience This Side of Frank’s lyrics...
And loving every minute of it ;)
Xenochrony full blown: Frank and the INSANE rhythm section playing in entirely different time signatures.
maybe one of frank’s most characteristic and typical solos.
and I LOVE those lyrics…
Thanks for reacting to such a great piece xx
Amazing!
Arthur Barrow on Bass...and the One and Only Vinnie Colaiuta on Drums! Frank said he did not think nature would produce another organism like Vinnie Colaiuta, he was so good it was ridiculous!
Vinnie plays the drum part which is in 19/16. Sometimes he plays a backbeat on 2 and 4 making it sound like 4/4 with 3/16 or 5/4 with 1/16 missing. Other times he does a 7/16 5/16 and 7/16 thing.
I think Scott Thunes is the bassist on this. At least he played it sometimes and you can find video of him playing it online.
Actually that would be Arthur Barrow on bass... unsung in Zappa's lineup of musicians...
@@DWHarper62 - Frank told Arthur Barrow he was the best bass player he ever played with.
Shoutout to Vinnie cause we can barely understand those time signatures without playing an instrument!
@@SightAfterDark Check out those notes from the recording... Vinnie just added 3 at the end of a 16 beat phrase... simple LOL...
Barrow plays on this. But I'd love a Zappa band backbone consisting of Thunes and Colaiuta. Regretably, it never happened. (Not too late for a cover band with them, though.)
"Lube from the north..." And then band quotes two seconds from a 1940s melody, "Midnight Sun" which of course is the same melody they used in the Nanook suite, just before the lyrics "strictly commercial". Frank the musicologist!
A true scientist of sound!
Here comes that crazy screaming sound!
lol yup
Joe's Garage and Shiek your Buti were both recorded in the studio. Frank used all of the instruments from various live recordings. Drums,guitar, and all the other instruments were mastered on a 64-channel system . Only the voices were live.
Storyline context: this song follows "Dong Work For Yuda". At this point in the storyline "Joe" is in prison. Joe's Garage I, II, + III really need to be listened to straight through for yourselves for full context. But, for review purposes a great stand alone song would be "Lucille", a classic Zappa love song. Blessings!
Well said!
Set aside just under two hours, have the lyrics available as the entire story of Joe will unfold. I envy you that ride for the first time!!
A long listen but my personal favorite track is Packard Goose. Hope you give it a listen sometime!
Now somebody get that guy a Puppers lol [I hope somebody gets that reference :-) ]
Thanks for the info!
@@richs5713 Yes! to Packard Goose .... underrated track.
@Zolar Czakl Nope, different reference lol (Thank you Mike Muir though. Great tune, Institutionalized!)
Puppers is a beer from the Hulu show "Letterkenny" and that line is oft used there.
Awesome Canadian comedy. Highly recommended!
Y'all have a good one!
@@richs5713 with you!
This is my favorite reaction of yours so far. Sifa looking confused as hell and Dan bopping his brains out 🤣
Lol glad you liked it!
You're the best reacters of Zappa's works. Thank you!
Thanks Calude! That means a lot!
@@SightAfterDark Can I suggest you "Bobby Brown" & also "Torture never stops"? It's 2 of a lot of others Zappa songs that the words are very significatives
Any kind of lube will do..... so funny to see one grooving down while the other contemplates the message😂. Nice, thanks
Thanks for watching!
That lady just experienced a paradigm shift
Joe’s Garage, the album, is kind of a rock opera, so in that context the lyrics make different sense ;)
Thanks!
Roll it over, grease it down!.. my man is off da hook! For me, zappa is best when played loud on a great system. Been a fan from the 70s
And he composed all of that!
More Zappa!!!!
Zappa for life!
@@SightAfterDark I am going to go out on a limb here,
I have a sneaking suspicion that both of you have a lot more Zappa on your own playlists now.
Maybe I am wrong, I don't know.
I think you both get Frank.
There are no ex Zappa fans.
You are a Zappa fan for life!!!
@@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 We've definitely joined the club :)
The guitar solo is Xenochronised. Meaning it was taken from a from a live show 1979 tour & super imposed w the bass & drums. It never actually occurred. Shout out to the appreciated Warren Cuccurullo my buddy from Brooklyn who also inspired much of the Joe's garage trilogy.
Amazing! Love the Xenochrony
time signatures.. my brain breathes a sigh of relief.. you can still not know what you're talking about.. magic ;-)
I saw Frank at the Turn of the Century in Denver around 1984 and they opened the show with this tune. It was fast and loud and commanded a respect for the band. They all are on time. No room for drugs on that stage !
Sounds like a good time Don!
That is xenochronicity..the guitar was taking from a live performance and dropped on top..vinnie on drums..
Thank you! Patric O'hearn on bass
Musicians
Frank Zappa - lead guitar, vocals
Warren Cuccurullo - rhythm guitar, vocals
Denny Walley - slide guitar, vocals
Ike Willis - lead vocals
Peter Wolf - keyboards
Tommy Mars - keyboards (Act 1)
Arthur Barrow - bass guitar, guitar (on "Joe's Garage"), vocals
Patrick O'Hearn - bass guitar on "Outside Now" and "He Used to Cut the Grass"
Ed Mann - percussion, vocals
Vinnie Colaiuta - drums, combustible vapors, optometric abandon
Jeff (Jeff Hollie) - tenor sax (all tracks Act 1)
Marginal Chagrin (Earle Dumler) - baritone sax (all tracks Act 1)
Stumuk (Bill Nugent) - bass sax (all tracks Act 1)
Dale Bozzio - vocals (all tracks Act 1)
Al Malkin - vocals (all tracks Act 1)
Craig Steward - harmonica (all tracks Act 1)
@Richie G - It is Arthur Barrow playing the bass on this song.
@@HakanTunaMuzik Yes. You are of course correct.
@@Frunobulax74 @hakantunaTV Yes. You are of course correct.
Thanks!
saw an interview with Frank where he said he would rather make instrumental music but unfortunately people seem to like words with there music so if i have to write words i might as well write something that amuses me or interests me
Good point by Frank!
please delete if too long. frank pioneered xenochrony starting in the early 60's. from the wiki he explains: A classic "Xenochrony" piece would be "Rubber Shirt", which is a song on the album. It takes a drum set part that was added to a song at one tempo. The drummer was instructed to play along with this one particular thing in a certain time signature, eleven-four, and that drum set part was extracted like a little piece of DNA from that master tape and put over here into this little cubicle. And then the bass part, which was designed to play along with another song at another speed, another rate in another time signature, four-four, that was removed from that master tape and put over here, and then the two were sandwiched together. And so the musical result is the result of two musicians, who were never in the same room at the same time, playing at two different rates in two different moods for two different purposes, when blended together, yielding a third result which is musical and synchronizes in a strange way. That's Xenochrony. And I've done that on a number of tracks.
Amazing! What an interesting way to create a recording. Was Frank one of the first to do this?
@@SightAfterDark- Frank created and named the technique. Here is some interesting info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony
@@SightAfterDark well, he certainly wasn't the first artist to mix time signatures, but he took the concept to another level entirely. he often took isolated tracks from years or even decades apart and put them together. and in his own inimitable way, created music where the drums and bass, for example, play off each other wonderfully in a way that musicians in particular will recognize, except it never actually happened.
Great review ..saw Frank in Australia 1973 ,and later Dweezil with ZPZ two times ,life long Fan
We're jealous!
Me too l saw Frank at the Hordon 73 .Frank’s best band .
my fav Zappa album is Roxy and Elsewhere, there's a track on that record called Son of Orange County, a song about tricky Dickie, its sublime.
It made COMPLETE sense to me! Mr Zappa, thank you.
I remember reading excerpts of an interview after the release of this album, where he (FZ) talked about the atrocities in Iran, especially the banning of certain music. It might have been after Sheik Yerbouti,, but I believe it was after Joe's Garage.
Bottom line is his music was an advocacy and expression of freedom.
As mentioned to one of your previous videos, Zappa was a genius and a master of composition. Anything he made was unparalleled.
He is the BEST
Zappa was a staunch supporter of the 1st amendment,.......even went before Congress over censorship of some of his albums. They wanted warning labels or some shit.
@@SightAfterDark
Quote:
"Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is THE BEST" ~ FZ
Around the time this album came out Frank Zappa did an interview on a weekly national radio show. He described his music as a cross between journalism and vaudeville. I certainly can't argue with that.
Arthur Barrow plays this amazing bass line, with Vince Colaiutta on drums.
Speaking of "Envelopes", that could be your next foray into FZ. Talk about a wild number.
Oh, but which version? I say SATLTSADW.
Thanks Chef!
In an interview, Frank said, a lot of musicians make a lot of money, and stick it up their nose, I stick mine in my ear.
Lol you know that must be an old interview if musicians were actually making money then
@@SightAfterDark You could say it was an old interview, he left us 29 years ago.
lmao,, she knew right away.....he had no clue
definitely Arthur Barrow on Bass. Tink.
Amazing bass!
Yes, this is a great rhythm section. Everybody knows Vinnie Colaiuta is an extraterrestrial. Frank gave him the Grand prize for the best drummer. And (almost) all the drummers Frank had were world class. Arthur Tripp, Ainsley Dunbar, Ralph Humphrey, Chester Thompson, Terry Bozzio, Chad Wackerman... It couldn't get any better. Even Jimmy Carl Black was a very very interesting player. The bass player here is Arthur Barrow. Unfortunately Arthur didn't´t receive the credit he deserves. He, Vinnie and Frank made the best power trio. If you want to know how a group of musicians work as a unit, listen for example those solos on Shut up and play your guitar (e. g. The deathless horsie). These are true musicians who are listening to each other and reacting creatively to what is going on. Within such framework Frank's guitar storytelling flies high..
Thanks for the breakdown Carlos!
Ms. Graffiti on the left thinking "I can't believe he's singing these lyrics...."
Mind expanding.
This is a concept album and if I recall correctly Joe's in jail during this song. Yeah, should probably just sidestep those lyrics. Priceless reaction just the same. lmao
Lol thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
FRANK ZAPPA IS THE BEST!!
Hope you keep exploring this genre. I think Frank has his own genre. Great job.
Lots of Frank on the way!
Arthur Barrow on bass, Vinnie Colaiuta on drums. From Joe's Garage, Acts II & III (1979).
Killing it!
Joe´s Garage contains the best drums ever recorded.
Arthur Barrow is the Bass player!His nickname was Tink listen to a song called “Tink walks Amok”
A Lot of Zappas music would be considered Brilliant-but without lyrics. And that is a shame and why it never got played on the radio.
Another song with great lyrics is "Any Kind of Pain" on his Broadway the Hard Way album. First verse:
You are the girl somebody invented
In a grim little office
On Madison Av
They were specific
They made you terrific
Blonde hair, Nice clothes
See her, she blows
She's so important 'cuz she
gets to do talk shows.
You'd take any kind of pain
Wouldn't you, baby (2x)
Since you haven't got a brain, let me just explain
Any Kind of Pain
Is never a maybe.
This was played by the large band in 1988 that had 5 Horns. Live recording.
“music is the best!”
"Keep it greasy - excuse me?" 😂
I'm so glad that you kinda get Zappas unique brilliance of creating music. : )
Of course!
this song gives me some "rump relief"..... love this song..... so stupid and dirty but also nerdy math-like complicated.... I tried to dance to this song once and broke both my ankles.
I tried to play this on our living room stereo with my dad home sometimes...... I'd leave the house, after putting it on loud..... then wait to hear how long it took for him to turn it off...
and I'd wait to hear what swear words he chose.... my dad hated Frank maybe most of all.... maybe that's partly why I like him as much as I do.
this song reminds me of that line from the Amadeus movie.... "there's too many notes."
Lol pretty much
Man I love your reaction while listening to The funky beat and wild solo. You got it.
Thanks Karl!
Fran was 100% right when he said a jail for all the criminals from the music industry.....in there there is the king of the ''plookers''...a man named Piddly...aka....puff daddy's
Arthur Barrow did the bass work on most of the album with Patrick O'hearn also performing on bass.
They did a great job!
Yeah, Freaking Vinnie!! Curious, I wonder, have a question we all want answered. Do you have lyrics available when you react? Are you seeing them? Cant tell. Anyway, Stellar. Thanks for Keeping Frank out there.
Sometimes. We try to use lyric videos when possible but they don't always have good ones available
@@SightAfterDark Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Roll it over 'n grease it down
I'll drive you through the heart of town
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Roll it over 'n grease it down
I'll drive you through the heart of town
Good women, they sure has it tough
Good men, well there just ain't enough
Good girls are lookin' all the time
Good men is something that they can't find
If they find one miraculously
They try to be lovin' as they can be
'Cause if they find one and let him go
Chances are they might not never find no mo'
So they keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Roll it over 'n grease it down
I'll drive you through the heart of town
Grease it down
Grease it down
(Gimme some grease!)
Grease it down
(Please!)
Grease it down
Grease it down
(I want some grease, baby)
Grease it down
Grease it down
Grease it . . .
A good lovin' man is hardest to find
A good woman needs to ease her mind
I know a few that need to ease it behind
All y'gotta do is grease it down
'N everything is fine
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Roll it over 'n grease it down
I'll drive you through the heart of town
A girl don't need
No fancy grease
To get herself
Some rump release
Any kind
Of lube'll do
Maybe from another
Part of you
Lube from the North
Lube from the South
Take a little slobber
(Take a little slobber!)
From the side of your mouth
Roll it over
Grease it down
Here come that crazy
Screamin' sound . . .
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Keep it greasey so it'll go down easy
Roll it over 'n grease it down
I'll drive you
I said I would drive you
I said I was gonna drive you
All the way how-hown
@@SightAfterDark Yeah, thats the thing with Frank sometimes, incredible musicianship with unexpected lyrics at times. Thanks for the answer.
@@bradalker5332 Thanks Brad Alker
@@steveschmitz2839 Of course! Thanks for watching!
Love the Frankster!
He's the best!
Magnifique !
Honestly, you can not just listen to any one song on this, must hear the whole thing.
That’s what we’re hearing
People keep saying that, but Frank played songs from this live all the time, and to my knowledge never performed the whole thing. Maybe we get lucky and one day Dweezil will attempt it, he has played whole albums in concerts, and this one would be a hoot! The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, but the parts are pretty damn good on their own too.
@@Peter-K Hey man, true, I think most people at shows are happy to hear whatever they can, but they probably know the albums inside and out. For a new listener, it may be okay, but in context it has much more meaning, like you said, yes, of course, listening to ANY ZAPPA is awesome, so maybe I should just enjoy THAT! Just trying to hip the young people to *albums," in case they do not know... The song order is a big thing for the artists, and something like Yellow Snow Suite, well, you know...
@@SightAfterDark Yes, it is a life story, like a play or something, on record. Zappa called his stuff, "alternative entertainment," other than that, who knows what to call it, it's Zappa! And thanks for your reactions, of course... Excellent.
I simply could not understand what i was listening to when i first heard this, but i got it eventually lol
haha sersiously!
A fresh truckload of dizzying W.T.F!!! Just messing with the squares, kids, siddown, gimme a sec, always a few dropping by 'round this time lately.
Nobody dood it better.
lol truckload of WTF is right!
funnily enuff, there is, indeedy, a song called, 'Envelopes'. You'll get to it👍😅
Thanks!
Arthur Barrow on bass,,,,,, Read his book,,,,,, ''Of Couse I said Yes'' It's a great read,,,,,
A classic. Joe's Garage is amazing.
True! My favorite
Zappa.
Frank had a lot of haters that complained his songs degraded women. He came back saying, "most of my songs are about STUPID MEN".
Haha love it
When she listens she's a Dove.
Love Joes Garage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure the bass is played by Scott Thunis!!
FZ's lyrics were certainly secondary to the music, but they were not just thrown together to fill up space. Lost in his musical prowess was his mastery of language, the man could spin a tale...and melodically at that. Songs like Trouble Every Day and most of the songs from his first few albums were as politically relevant as they were musically off the wall. His satirical abilities were at the forefront in songs like Cosmic Debris and Pojama People, to name just a couple. The entire 3 album set of Joe's garage tells a grand story, and this one was just a sliver. If you heard all that led up to this song, the relevance of the lyrics would be entirely different for you. A couple of his lyrical excursions that they should listen to are Titties and Beer and The Legend of the Illinois Enema Bandit from Zappa in New York, the former mainly lyrics with just a simple background melody, and the other an epic live performance of a song only Zappa could have wrote. Just saying, don't diminish his lyrical skills even though the music is the driving force behind it.
Not diminishing, just saying the music seems like the main focus. Would you agree?
@@SightAfterDark absolutely the music is the main focus, but there are plenty of lyrics he wrote that actually do convey a strong message. Most of his lyrics were spawned from his experiences performing on the road, musicians, groupies, hippies, and a plethora of American subcultures were fodder for the stories he chose to tell. Though he said he preferred all instrumental music, he used his lyrics to throw shade at many things. Love is the subject of most music, so he avoided it and distilled it down to sex instead. He has a few 'love' songs, but I always saw them as sarcastic, more of a parody piece than your typical love song. He released a song called 'Jewish Princess' (Really nasty lyrically) and was asked to apologize for it by the Anti-Defamation League. He replied to their request with this, "Unlike the unicorn, such creatures do exist - and deserve to be 'commemorated' with their own special opus.' He was utterly unapologetic for what he said or did, he was about as Un-PC as someone could be. He has a lot of songs that no other artist would ever consider a subject for song lyrics, and he especially liked to skewer what he considered the 'mass stupidity' that is the undercurrent of American culture, or lack thereof. Once you get to hear some of these songs you will see what I mean. I hope that clarifies what I was saying, but I responding to the comments you made to the effect that he could have used any lyrics and it wouldn't matter, that is not really the case. He was a driven man, and I doubt there was anything he did that he did not plan out meticulously, and that includes his lyrics. You just haven't heard enough yet to see it, but I am sure you will.
@@Peter-K
Excellently well said. You pretty much nailed it.
That being said, one should also keep in mind that Frank said more than once that his motto was "anything, anytime, anywhere", and that he had a sardonic sense of humor. So, it wasn't beyond him to very occasionally do something just to be silly.
Edit: I'm not necessarily speaking about anything on this album (except perhaps 'Green Rosetta').
I'm mostly commenting in general terms.
Oh no, here comes that screaming soooooowwwwwwwweeeeeend again!
Dan, I was laughing with you. Perfect reaction 😂 Sifa, regarding to your reaction I was wondering if you heard any souind at all and your headphone was dowin. 🙄🤣
😂well at least that was cleared up!🤣who would sit and listen to no sound 🙄 😂?
Number one on Rick Beato’s list of songs with weird time signatures.
Really? We see why and love Rick!
@@SightAfterDark you nailed it. There are several time signatures going on at the same time. Rick got some expert on his video to count it. It was baffling to me.
This Kraftverk when they still was playing in a garage in Germany...maybe litle mor sofistikated...
Outrageous drumming by Vinnie Coliuta.
Indeed
Yeah, you can do Zappas "Envelopes" =)
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Hehe, I just thought it was a fun fact that it exist a tune with that name =) I will check the Patreon though ..
bravo
Sifa looked like The Most Uncomfortable Person Ever when she was hearing the words LOL Do Not Listen to "Bobby Brown Goes Down" or "Broken Hearts are for Assholes" you may be scarred for life!!!!!
hahaha i think we'll be fine
Lube.
"The modern day composer refuses to die."
lmao, you two actually get it! Few do, you rock with these reactions
Thanks Chuck!
Wisdom of the sages. Always count on Frank for good advice.
The lyrics, as crazy as they are, fit into the storyline on this double concept album. You'd have to play it through for context.
Thanks Edward!
Xenochrony at its finest another Zappa invention. Great stuff!
Good stuff all around!
On bass you hear Arthur Barrow.
Had to watch this one just to see your faces. :-)
Hope you enjoyed!
Packard Goose is the killer track for me from JG
lo que toca Colaiuta !!!!!!
Love Vinnie C on this!!! One of my favorites. Check out a live version....
Thanks for the tip William!
Zappa was often, though not always, about the music. Songs like "Disco Boy," "Cocaine Decisions," "The Slime," and "Flakes" certainly had intended messages.
Gotcha
The bassist is Arthur Barrow, not Scott. He came later. Arthur had the distinction of being one of FZ's "clonemeisters"; the guy that knew the music so well he ran the fist half of rehearsal before Frank showed up. Scott was the clonemeister for the '84 and '88 tours. Bass players are quite often MDs aren't they?
Here is Vinnie talking about the groove.
th-cam.com/video/w2wj8Jj7VFE/w-d-xo.html
Amazing! Thanks for the info
Frank Zappa was a fan of obscure R&B singles with dirty lyrics, he said they provided much better sex ed than what was taught in schools when he was young, I suppose when he started writing his own lyrics he was just paying it forward.