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The Avus banking was paved with bricks which made it super slippery. There are numerous pictures of cars going over the top. Even wilder is their hosting motorcycle races in the '30s!
Motorsport wasn't totally banned in switzerland, major track events were but we still had awsome hillclimbs and Rallyes (like Rallye International du Valais)😉
Basically everything that didn't involve cars directly racing each other on a closed circuit was okay. Should've maybe researched better :D
Some more cool tracks: Hermanos Rodguigez in Mexico, Paul Ricard, and the tracks for the Swedish GP and I think Russia had one too, not that it got much use, oh and Adelaide :)
Great videos pal . I appreciate you don't have cheesy intros with music blaring at max at the start . Good flow and watch
B RAW 憎まれっ子 KB thank you!
Estoril in Portugal.
Donnington and Brands Hatch, UK
Detroit, Tripoli, Imola.
Estoril, first Senna win.. Imola..
Donington and Brands Hatch aren't abandoned, they still host plenty of non-F1 races
Targa Florio.
AIDA - Pacific Grand Prix. A favourite of mine from the 1996 released Formula 1 game on the PS1
One of your pictures for the Caesars palace grand prix is actually the Dallas Grand Prix af fair park. I can tell bc of the ferris wheel and the cotton bowl in the picture. I would love for you to have the old Watkins Glen lay out in a future video. Love your vids and keep up the good work!.
dammit apologises! must have slipped through the racks on the google search I did - not that many copyright free images out there
6:04 Las Vegas needs an upgraded street course
In California, there is 2 abandoned tracks like Riverside and Ontario
Aintree GP circuit. Formula 1 raced there especially at a time when Horse Racing was struggling to keep afloat in the 1950's.
On the list ;)
Great video nice in depth research
Joshua Gibney thanks Joshua!
When you said United States I thought you would've said my city of Phoenix
When I was in Berlin, I drove along the section of motorway that they used as part of the AVUS circuit. The grandstands near the former banking are still there today. Also, if you look on Google Earth you can actually see the other banked corner from the longer layout and it's all overgrown now.
Jiggmin1234 very nice! Wish I had done the same !
Jiggmin1234 it’s the autobahn not motorway in Germany
Yesss!!! It’s back!!!
thanks mate!
Actually Switzerland still had rally events, but no GP races. I'd love the return of Swiss GP in the near future.
f1 2020 need 40 drives 20 teams of 2 drivers or all the team that are racing now need 4 driver 4 cars that will be nice
they need banking tracks again. Tracks these days are so flat. Look at Sochi, Hockenheim, Mexico, Yas Marina also without the sector one hill. Maybe some deep off-camber corners.
Fair Park (Dallas), held the Dallas Grand Prix in 1985. It was dropped off the calendar after a year after, for instance, Nigel Mansell's engine went just shy of the finish, and he collapsed as he pushed his car across the line.
Nick'sGaming It was actually held in 1984
Right. My bad.
Didn't mean to sound arrogant there lol. Just wanted to make a correction
You didn't sound arrogant.
Avus was basically shut down as the biggest part of it is the official southbound Autobahn A 115. The traffic congestion it caused when the Autobahn was shut down for a racing weekend just became too much. It was interesting leaving Berlin southbound and driving past the stands, knowing you were on the Avus race track. It's sad it's gone as an official race track, but it was unsustainable (though on German Autobahnen you can drive 130 km/h or faster, so strictly speaking, lots of race tracks everywhere). The stands are still there and will be renovated as they are a listed building.
Trivia fact: AVUS is the abbreviation of "Automobil-Verkehrs- und Uebungs-Straße" (automobile traffic and training street)
I really like your videos and this series in particular :) I know it’s a bit nitpicking, but I found your research on the tracks in this episode a bit lacking, when you compared the AVUS banking with the Monza banking, you call it “like half that” while it was 30 degrees (average). Also it was only 1 banked corner, and the track was shortened 4 times from 12 miles to eventually 1.6 miles at the end of it’s use. Also the Caesars Palace grand prix track was temporary on the hotels parking lot and had only 4 years of use, of which only 2 F1 races on the ‘full’ layout and CART used it for the other 2 years on a layout that connected turns 1, 6 and 10 to create a 1.125 mile sort of oval shaped track. This is just what I found in less than 5 minutes on Wikipedia. And maybe a tip for future episodes, when you list stats, tell it in a way that doesn’t come across as if you’re guessing or unsure, I assume you did research so you should know, write them down it that blue notebook you’re holding but don’t seem to be using...? I don’t want to come across as trying to hate on you or anything just some feedback :)
Sponge1310 thanks for the comment
I get the majority of my info from wiki but I leave some info out so it’s not a spam of information with no opinion. These are more conversational videos than being strictly factual.
I hope you understand if I include every single fact I would be here for ever! I try my best to narrow down the most important facts
Thank you for the comment none the less! Very helpful
there are many GP´s in USA but some of them are still in use!
I love these series!
Could you do Zandvoort (Netherlands) ? :-)
Zandvoort is still an actively used circuit; for instance, the DTM has a race there next month (July 2018). Like someone posted above, it should be included in a "lost tracks" series, not this "abandoned tracks" series. But it does deserve to be covered, regardless with its extensive history.
JerseyDevilBM zandvoort used to be alot bigger back in the day the the shorted it in the 80.s or 70.s there are some abonend pieces of the old circuit
Good series, really enjoying it, keep it up. Whats with four episodes and no Adelaide. Can understand not in first 3, but 4
Bob Smith Adelaide is still used albeit modified for Supercars. This series is for tracks no longer used for major racing series. Adelaide would fall on a part two of the “lost tracks” series.
Thanks Jan, that is correct. To that point, i need to make a 2nd episode!
Now they are gonna abandon the Singapore GP/Marina Bay Street Circuit next in 2021 :(
lol "Murder mile"... what could go wrong
Please do the Swedish track Anderstorp Raceway :D
The wooden roller coaster in the Las Vegas picture is either undocumented or only operated in 1954 and 1955.
What about Detroit Rennaissence Circuit (NOT Belle Isle!) or whatever it's name actually was? That track is abandoned, but was this one in a different episode? East US GP from 1982 to 1988.
Jordi Kerkhoven thanks for the mention
Suggestion:
Nürburgring Gesamtstrecke (North + the now abandoned South Loop). Last used for F1 in 1931. Over 28 Kilomiters of total track. Part of the former Südschleife is now public road while other parts are abandoned in the woods or completely gone. Many remnaints remain.
The north loop only was used for the German GP one year in the early '60s.
AVUS, finally :P (I live in Berlin)
lykan2 awesome aha! I visited recently and loved the city.
in 57 58 and 60 they had the Cuban GP
In which circuit?
Donington Park absolutely classic track and race European GP 1993
Adelaide street circuit!!!! Plz
that'd be dank and it would only be fair, we've been fucked over with the new start times, they kinda owe us some reprieve.
Stormboy155 they still use it tho for Supercars. This series follows tracks that are no longer used at all for racing. The Adelaide Street Circuit would fall under “lost tracks” series.
be cool!!!
Jan Campo I know. I just ask on any videos cause im really excited to c what Alex thinks
Not all of it is being used. There is two version. The F1 version, and shorter the Touring Car version. The F1 version is abandon.
Anyone else think Melbourne should get removed , for me it’s a bit boring .
Zolder Belgium
Moroccan Grand Prix ( help 13 times )
Aida, Pacific Grand Prix 1994-1995
San Marino , Nuremburg nordschleife (The Green Hell), Zandvoort ,Zolder ,Fuji
Did he say los Vegas
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DDT thanksss
A new las Vegas Street track we be quite decent simular sort layout will look good
possibly, hope it is a track that can provide overtaking
Should also do one on new tracks like The Bend Motorsport Park
any links to research?
AlexZAfRo www.thebend.com.au
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bend_Motorsport_Park
www.racingcircuits.info/australasia/australia/the-bend-motorsport-park.html
I’m sure that if you look around there will be a lot more on places like Speedcafe.com but this is just a small quick list that I found. There are plenty of videos of the construction process on the bend Motorsport park TH-cam channel & plenty of other videos by other people. Please keep up to date with my channel cause I’m racing there soon & am going to put my onboard footage on my channel from the track. Keep up the good work with the videos 👍🏻
they are trying to get a Miami street circuit up and running but it looks horrible, especially the section that goes along a bridge, the track looks boring af.
It does look a tad uninteresting, lets see!
Zandvoort, the Netherlands!?
W3AZ3L - not really abandoned
Eläintarha track in downtown Helsinki, Finland.
RoyalMela thanks for the suggestion
Circuit de Charade
umm Adelaide
Fuji japan
Donnington park hosted many f1 races fell into disreapair now there starting to get things gping again
Didn't Formula 1 race in Los Angeles California, or am i mistaken?
No, they are did not.
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 Actually, they did race just outside of Los Angeles, sort of. The non-championship 1971 Questor Grand Prix was held at Ontario Motor Speedway, in Ontario, California. The "sort of" part is because it was a mix of Formula One and Formula 5000 cars, and it was held in two 32-lap heats because of the limitations of the Formula 5000 cars' fuel tanks.
Have you done Riverside yet?
German Fomin hope. Where is that ?
Pretty sure it's in California
AlexZAfRo it was a race track in California. Sadly it got destroyed because of noise complaints. They held only one F1 race in 1960, but that track is still worth mentioning.
German Fomin
I didn't know about noise complaints, but the reason it disappeared was that iIt was bought by a real estate developer to build a mall on. One that infuriatingly was a huge disaster.
Excellent suggestion, German! Although it only hosted one championship Formula One race, unlike some of the other tracks in this series, it has a substantial historical legacy, hosting USAC/CART (IndyCar), sports cars/Can-Am, NASCAR, Trans-Am and IMSA races, many with full international standing. Many of the greatest drivers in the world drove on it, including Jim Clark, Dan Gurney, Jack Brabham (and sons), Mario Andretti, John Surtees, Bruce McLaren, Graham Hill, Denny Hulme, et al.
Why does Monaco get so much hype ,glad Daniel won but every yr it's a boring follow the leader procession . Let's move this race to somewhere else. Very controversial I know
Wind Sock I never really get hyped as it’s just a procession
The hype is more from the glamour and history around it. But I agree, it should be scrapped. Or there should be a special Monaco car configuration with very, very little downforce.
StuntpilootStef sounds like a good idea .
i enjoy the special occasion etc, but its not a race i am buzzing for each year!!
It's an event where the rich and famous get to party and be seen. It serves no real purpose in terms of F1 for all the reasons you all have posted except publicity ("See all the glamorous venues Formula One visits [show stock footage of yachts in the harbor]!"), but it will continue IF the new owners of F1, Liberty Media, can convince the organizers that they will have to give up their previously FREE (yes, I said no-charge) hosting of a championship F1 race and share the fees that every other grand prix promoter pays. They might have to convince some backers to dig into the trillions of dollars (yes, "tr" + "illions") that are estimated to be stored in Monaco's banks untaxed to finally pay their share.
The pimple is gone from the previous episode.
I have suffered from acne for around 10 years. People like you are what make people like me so anxious about themselves. Please dont be that guy.
Have a look at probiotics. There's talk that acne is caused by an imbalanced gut and certain probiotics can help.
classicalhero7 thanks but still don’t put others down with silly remarks! You never know when the tables turn and you might feel terrible and people point out your flaws!
Singapore’s independence was in 1965
Donnington race track please
not really abandoned, still used by many series!
AlexZAfRo yes but held a classic f1 race
Mark Plunkett I’m confused as to what your point is aha
What about the portuguese GP?
which track is abandoned?
AlexZAfRo the portuguese gp was originally in Boavista and after sometime was transfered to the more modern track in Estoril
Don't forget Monsanto as well. It hosted the championship Portuguese GP in 1959 (after alternating hosting the non-championship GP since 1954) and featured the lowlight of Jack Brabham hitting a telegraph pole and being ejected from his car onto the track surface where Masten Gregory just missed running him over. Boavista was notable for the tram tracks cars raced over!
Why alaways verstappen
imola?
Wasn't long beach an f1 track at one point
Leo Is ok yes
Since you asked for suggestions I suggest that track because it's awesome in project cars 2 with pretty much every car you use
As someone has noted above, Long Beach isn't an "abandoned" F1 track but should be covered in a "lost" F1 track series. It's alive and well for IMSA and IndyCars and doing just fine. It's an example of a track that refused to pay Bernie's exorbitant fees for hosting an F1 race and yet prospered, hosting major races 44 years in a row. The first race in 1975 was a Formula 5000 event (won by the great Brian Redman) and then the next eight years the Formula One U.S. Grand Prix West was staged there (won by such luminaries as Mario Andretti, Gilles Villeneuve, Nelson Piquet, Alan Jones and Niki Lauda) and then 1984 through the present has hosted CART/Champ Car/IndyCar.
JerseyDevilBM yes it would be a great track for the lost f1 tracks series !
0 dislike lol ill dislike
bring the free right of speaking back to f1 will be brtter for the sport now you see whan drives talk to the media that er is always some one from the team to record what the driver says i think that the drive cant say what he really thinks !