droppin the flop at the end, loved it. I’m 41, and have been able to throw 450+/- for the last 8 years that I’ve been playing and I truly believe my furthest flying days are still in front of me. your part of that inspiration man!
Dear all AM players: This isn't sacrificing "a little" bit of accuracy. It's a lot. Scott has been player longer than 99.9% of disc golfers and has built up a muscle memory that most can't replicate. Only do this if you're playing doubles and your partner has already thrown a good shot. Oh. And you have a ton of practice doing it. Still a cool video, I love the breakdown
Great info Scott, thanks. I'm 75 and just now getting into disc golf. I froze your video at about 2:30 and picked up on a dynamic that I have been totally missing. As a former golfer, I always tried to get my back completely turned perpendicular to my target line at the top of the swing. Same thing in disc golf apparently. I've really been cutting myself short by not seeing this. Thanks again! Take care and be well my friend.
I love this guy! What makes him great besides being a good teacher is he’s figured out how to get the most “leverage” out of his big body really taking advantage of his height and long limbs. Even the way he uses his large hands/fingers to really “crack the whip” on his side arm even better imho, well done sir! I look forward to watching you kill it this year!
Man I just enjoy his videos. I’ve got a buddy he reminds me of. Does sh#* and is older that I can’t even imagine. So much better than I am. But the positivity eliminates any competitive sense I have (which is natural for many I think). I’m 39 so not young, but also just not as good as I used to be when I played 5 days a week. Now it’s once a week after 50 hours at the hospital and 20 working on the old house. Just love the vibes, the education, honesty and joy. Maybe Stokes will be in Charlotte some day for a clinic, would blow my mind.
Scott, first off you are an excellent teacher. I’ve only been playing since November and your lessons are making the biggest difference in my game. In particular your video on snap taught me how to throw without hurting myself and the nose up putting video is giving me more confidence than ever before. I’ve watched your video on backhand accuracy and wondered if you can do a quick one about forehand accuracy. I feel like only 1 out of 5 goes where I think I’m aiming. If you have one I missed it, but would be happy to go looking for it. Thanks for all you do and good luck on tour this year!
I’m 52 as well and had a 1000 rated player give me some similar advice to gain distance, he called it a “leap of faith”, but I’m gonna give this a try as I need more distance, my accuracy and approach game are strong. Thanks for the tip good sir.
Oh man, I'm rooting so hard for you this year. Would absolutely be delighted to see you on some lead cards. I'm 59 in May, been addicted to this sport for the last 8 years. You helped me more than once with your advice. Your philosophy of teaching is really very good! Thanks man and have a good one!😁👌❤ Ps. Decided to throw only mids for about 2 more months, gonna try your x-hop after that.
I see your point. I have been playing now since 2014. At 63 I may never throw 300 feet consistently. So I play for par and I am happy if I get birdies.
Such a good technical point was highly illuminated by this. This may not be correct form, but it certainly made something obvious that was missing about my own technique.
That Scott sets up, but still delivers as if he is backwards facing amazes me, until he pulls the disc..that is powerful...imo....It seems weird that you can see him facing the opposite way before the release, but all of a sudden in a split second the arm comes straight back to the forward throwing position as his torso swings through, lead leg planted...I have been doing the last part of this...back to the target...step backwards...then cross step, arm up straight, then planting the foot, then making it happen as my arm and torso follow...massive change in distance and accuracy..the disc is higher up, the arm straighter.....and go for it...He really is dialed in on backhand releases...
Scott you are the player i am looking the most foward to watching this season hands down. Im a new golfer 3 yrs in im 39 . i get the most outta beating younger punks who swear disc golf is all about being young. Oh how wrong could they be. This is golf and ever since i could remember the old guys kick ass in golf. Lets show them its all about skills . i will see ya out there Scottie. And thanks for being you and doing you. Yes!
Thanks for giving this quality info. As a newbie at the young age of 49 your videos show me what is possible for the “life experienced” group. Good luck this year and keep producing exceptionally high quality content.
I like it. I was given ball golf lessons from a LPGA player and her teaching style was that she watched you hit some ball and then matched your style to a specific PGA player. I am tall and have a smooth swing (This also applies to my disc golf style) so she had me watch and practice swing like Phil M. My friend had a much faster swing than me so she had him watch and practice like Vijay Singh. There are as many variables as people doing the sport.
I started throwing backhand this last summer and that is exactly what I do! I had no accuracy to begin with but it’s getting a lot better. I thought I was crazy and was thinking about starting from scratch when someone pointed out that it was not what is taught.
Fascinating, buddy! I note that one of the reasons you throw so far with this technique is because you extend your plant leg as you extend your elbow. Not only does this emulate the best form of all time (Drew Gibson), it actively increases traction due to your upward motion, and it then reduces grip so your foot can easily turn once the disc is ejected. The timing is critical. Not only does this form a proper bracing movement, allowing your hip to rotate on a pole, around a fixed position, it also moves the hip backwards which increases your torso rotation rate, which adds distance. Now, the reason you fall forward instead of finishing balanced on your plant foot, is that your hop means your final step is not terribly long, and you are quite high, so extending your plant leg creates a pole-vaulting action once your leg is straight, whereas the other pros are tacking a much longer final step which causes them to be in a lower position. But because they are not extending their leg to brace, they collapse on top of it and simply walk through the shot - which takes quite a bit of power out of the smash. The brace is designed to transfer momentum, and it only really works properly if the body has come to a dead stop by way of the plant leg extending straight, during the elbow extension. If your viewers want to know what a proper brace is, they can simply stand with feet together and parallel (and keep them parallel) and jump one meter to the right, landing on only their right foot, and then extend that leg to come up onto it, and into static balance. It's easy! It is MUCH easier than landing on a bent leg, and trying to stay balanced on it. Try it! You have a lifetime history of landing and then extending to come up into balance. It's a very typical skiing movement: the leg extension at the bottom of the turn increases pressure on the ground while the extension takes place. It is a very powerful movement as in skiing you are resisting against huge forces. In disc golf it is similarly athletic and powerful, due to your approach speed. Flexing a leg reduces pressure on the ground, and hence reduces traction. You can even demonstrate a full braced position by jumping to the right, landing on your right foot, and then extend radically, jumping back to the left, landing on your left foot. If you do not brace correctly, it is impossible to jump back to the left. These movements are the essence of bracing correctly for disc golf.
I do something kind of similar to this and it has helped me improve my accuracy a lot. I don't have that powerful of a hop when I throw nor do I keep my arm straight. I use a high kick step kind of like some baseball players use when batting for weight transfer.
I also do something similar and never thought about it until now. When I do my x-step, I leave my weight on my back foot so I can push off of it when I turn. I just do that without thinking about it. Now that I know, I am going to make more of an effort to transfer weight forward because I think that will help me keep the nose down and get a more consistent release.
Scott you are at my favorite spot to practice at Sunset…. That field allows me to get in a good practice when I’m playing there…. Great tip and I’m going to give it a shot… Thanks!
I've worked on a double hop like this too, but for a little different reason. I cracked my left hip socket years ago and it tends to stiffen up (aggravation) over the course of a round. The hop helps me start my rotation (in the air, if that makes sense) with less rotational stress on the hip. Great to see this technique on video- thanks!
Mastery in explaining yourself to help amateurs not injury themselves trying pro concepts. Thank you. BTW- That knee energy you mentioned is called “triple extension” in baseball pitching mechanics. GG does a hop that drives his body weight onto front hip that would harm a typical player.
This is interesting, the only other player I can think of who hops off their back foot instead of off their lead foot is Mike Moser. But he starts his throw with the hop and is known for his accuracy over distance style of throw. There are plenty of players who hop for distance like GG, Brinster, and Fish to name a few, but you're right in saying that what you do is truly unique. Thanks for the video!
One of my favorite pros. I love watching you play and could listen to you talk about disc golf all day long. Keep it up, and I'll see you on coverage! BTW That logo is sick.
Scott you're the man and I love your videos, but what do you think about the fact that no top pro has a backwards x step like you? Basically all of them stay sideways.
I'm there with you...only when I need to get that little step in distance...or my last hole as not scared if I go o.b ..I play that hole and do my best on that hole
I totally understand why you wouldn't teach this. There are so many timings to get right, and there's no way I could recreate that without massive amounts of testing. Recreating a similar timing would be different for every body shape/mobility. However, I can totally see how that could add more whip to your coil. That said, go blast your shots on tour!
Love it Scott! Are you going to be at Belton? I'm hoping to make it down to see peeps and I'd love to see you throw, and maybe even get lucky and meet ya! Thanks buddy!
Thank you for another fascinating video Scott, I'm guessing that you're going to be pretty selective on which holes you will go with this technique or have you got it down that you can do it on any tee shot that will require a distance driver. Also was wondering if you have tried the 360 style that Simon Lizotte and maybe a few others seem to successfully employ for extra distance. If nothing else it looks pretty cool. However I suspect that I would have a very difficult time getting the timing and coordination down. Your Technique seems a little more approachable.
Actually pretty much all good distance throwers have used a 360 since the late 70s. I set all my World Records (Backhand and Sidearm) with the 360 delivery.
Actually if you think about it...keeping your arm straight could potentially be more accurate. You state it yourself later in the video...reducing variables. When you try and keep the disc level and in place there is a lot more movement in more joints of the arm. Each of those movements/joint introduce additional variables. Whereas keeping your arm straight reduces variables. So long as you can train your muscle memory to always reach back to the same point with a straight arm you've reduced variables.
Reach back is a lot more about 'what's comfortable and helps you engage the other levers". Look at Ricky and Colton both don't have a 'normal' reachback and still bomb.
Man this seems really plausible. Watch any good baseball player throw a ball for max distance like from the warning track. You’ll see them take that little hop as well. Might have to give this a try.
I have always wondered why you threw like that! I used to think you just looked goofy, but now I have to respect it. You've obviously thought it through and optimized it for what you do. Keep with what works unless you're convinced another way is better! (And perhaps another way is better, I don't know, but it may not be worth it to retrain a movement you have already repeated hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of times!)
As you likely know the technique has parallels to a 360. The straight arm swing and the big push off a hopping/bouncing back foot. Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see an alternative to a 360 when 50 more feet can save a stroke, and if it is inaccurate, you are throwing an upshot like everyone else. How often do you think you use this on an open course off the tee? Do you ever use it on a level fairway?
I have a weird technique as well where everyone wonders how I throw far only using a 2 finger grip. I keep my index on the edge of the flight plate and my pinkie tucked under the flight plate with the other 2 fingers inside the rim and thumb pressing on the top of the disc between the some and where the flight plate meet
Interesting... This had been my drive form/run since the early 90's. I obviously wasnt doing it quite right, as my accuracy and distance was crap for about 20yrs. Only recently have I 'started over' and am working on the more 'standard' run w/o a hop. Im tossing further now, but accuracy is still pretty bad. Tbh, the hop step did give me more time, but it obviously wasnt helping. I guess I need to start over before I fall back into a technique that was hurting me for 2 decades. Thanks for the vid and showing me that 20 yrs of bad accuracy was partly due to poor form from the pre-internet/education days.
If you are ever in the Jacksonville FL area i would love to hire you for lessons! We have a course on Amelia island that is 162 holes woth 20 baskets and just short of 5 acres with a group of 6-8 that love to learn.
Yep, I might try it but what I take from this and what I've been saying to myself all along is that it's better to have a quirky method or form that makes you better than religiously trying to have the "perfect" form that might make you worse at disc golf. We are all different built and our muscles and joints move and react differently so it's kinda stupid to think that there is only one correct way and everything else is "forbidden" and laughable. I'm turning 52 in a week and haven't played for more than 3 months (that's actively, as I started last august and then we had early harsh winter here) and at first I religiously followed the "rules" how to throw and I almost ruined my arm and lower back until I realized to adjust to my abilities and joint/muscle movements. Now I throw farther and better than younger people do after playing for a couple of years. Don't force your body to do unnatural things and use your smarts as much as power and force. Keep up the good work. Great videos and it'll be fun to watch someone my own age at the tour.
I don't think its on the teacher to control interpretation of his/her teachings, I get very little from Disc Golf coaching because of the disclaimer "every body is different"
When u get back. A big draw would be, Playing 18 holes. Anywhere.... But with.. 2 man best shot . Stokley. Hammock. Climo. Schultz. Ron Russell. Nate doss. Rico. Eric McCabe. Brian scweby. ....... Kevin McCoy. Phil Arthur. John McCray. Eric Martin. Al shack. Feldberg. Chris orrick. Will schustric. Dean tannock. Joey lefty. Etc. A big , live 2 man best shot. I'm sure the players would sure have a good time.
@@ScottStokelyDG haha, just thought it was funny since it says Stokely in the corner, the channel is Scott Stokely and then you introduce yourself at the start. If anyone is still confused in the comments 😬
How far do you think the average 50 yr old professional throws a flat, no wind drive? I am 48 and will be trying to go MP50 in a year. I have been a traditional golf professional (mini tours and PGA Master Professional) but I think there is more growth potential in disc golf and I would like to be a part of it.
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I continue to realize that you are not just a disc golf expert, but a very good communicator as well.
These forbidden techniques are too advanced for me, but I respect them.
Funniest thing I've read today 🤣😂🤣
droppin the flop at the end, loved it.
I’m 41, and have been able to throw 450+/- for the last 8 years that I’ve been playing and I truly believe my furthest flying days are still in front of me. your part of that inspiration man!
This man has single handedly improved all aspects of my disc golf experience. Underrated legend.
Dear all AM players: This isn't sacrificing "a little" bit of accuracy. It's a lot. Scott has been player longer than 99.9% of disc golfers and has built up a muscle memory that most can't replicate.
Only do this if you're playing doubles and your partner has already thrown a good shot. Oh. And you have a ton of practice doing it.
Still a cool video, I love the breakdown
Great info Scott, thanks. I'm 75 and just now getting into disc golf. I froze your video at about 2:30 and picked up on a dynamic that I have been totally missing. As a former golfer, I always tried to get my back completely turned perpendicular to my target line at the top of the swing. Same thing in disc golf apparently. I've really been cutting myself short by not seeing this. Thanks again! Take care and be well my friend.
I love this guy! What makes him great besides being a good teacher is he’s figured out how to get the most “leverage” out of his big body really taking advantage of his height and long limbs. Even the way he uses his large hands/fingers to really “crack the whip” on his side arm even better imho, well done sir! I look forward to watching you kill it this year!
Man I just enjoy his videos. I’ve got a buddy he reminds me of. Does sh#* and is older that I can’t even imagine. So much better than I am. But the positivity eliminates any competitive sense I have (which is natural for many I think). I’m 39 so not young, but also just not as good as I used to be when I played 5 days a week. Now it’s once a week after 50 hours at the hospital and 20 working on the old house. Just love the vibes, the education, honesty and joy. Maybe Stokes will be in Charlotte some day for a clinic, would blow my mind.
I have a mailing list for all my schedule updates. I will be through there later this year with the DGPT
Scott, first off you are an excellent teacher. I’ve only been playing since November and your lessons are making the biggest difference in my game. In particular your video on snap taught me how to throw without hurting myself and the nose up putting video is giving me more confidence than ever before. I’ve watched your video on backhand accuracy and wondered if you can do a quick one about forehand accuracy. I feel like only 1 out of 5 goes where I think I’m aiming. If you have one I missed it, but would be happy to go looking for it. Thanks for all you do and good luck on tour this year!
I’m 52 as well and had a 1000 rated player give me some similar advice to gain distance, he called it a “leap of faith”, but I’m gonna give this a try as I need more distance, my accuracy and approach game are strong. Thanks for the tip good sir.
Oh man, I'm rooting so hard for you this year. Would absolutely be delighted to see you on some lead cards.
I'm 59 in May, been addicted to this sport for the last 8 years. You helped me more than once with your advice.
Your philosophy of teaching is really very good! Thanks man and have a good one!😁👌❤
Ps. Decided to throw only mids for about 2 more months, gonna try your x-hop after that.
I see your point. I have been playing now since 2014. At 63 I may never throw 300 feet consistently. So I play for par and I am happy if I get birdies.
Such a good technical point was highly illuminated by this. This may not be correct form, but it certainly made something obvious that was missing about my own technique.
That Scott sets up, but still delivers as if he is backwards facing amazes me, until he pulls the disc..that is powerful...imo....It seems weird that you can see him facing the opposite way before the release, but all of a sudden in a split second the arm comes straight back to the forward throwing position as his torso swings through, lead leg planted...I have been doing the last part of this...back to the target...step backwards...then cross step, arm up straight, then planting the foot, then making it happen as my arm and torso follow...massive change in distance and accuracy..the disc is higher up, the arm straighter.....and go for it...He really is dialed in on backhand releases...
This is great info! I noticed Seppo Paju has a lot of hop step in his drives and he's a bomber🤙
Scott you are the player i am looking the most foward to watching this season hands down. Im a new golfer 3 yrs in im 39 . i get the most outta beating younger punks who swear disc golf is all about being young. Oh how wrong could they be. This is golf and ever since i could remember the old guys kick ass in golf. Lets show them its all about skills . i will see ya out there Scottie. And thanks for being you and doing you. Yes!
Thanks for giving this quality info. As a newbie at the young age of 49 your videos show me what is possible for the “life experienced” group. Good luck this year and keep producing exceptionally high quality content.
I like it. I was given ball golf lessons from a LPGA player and her teaching style was that she watched you hit some ball and then matched your style to a specific PGA player. I am tall and have a smooth swing (This also applies to my disc golf style) so she had me watch and practice swing like Phil M. My friend had a much faster swing than me so she had him watch and practice like Vijay Singh. There are as many variables as people doing the sport.
I started throwing backhand this last summer and that is exactly what I do! I had no accuracy to begin with but it’s getting a lot better. I thought I was crazy and was thinking about starting from scratch when someone pointed out that it was not what is taught.
I love your honest take on disc golf. Hope to see you in coverage this season. Follow your dreams!!!
Fascinating, buddy! I note that one of the reasons you throw so far with this technique is because you extend your plant leg as you extend your elbow. Not only does this emulate the best form of all time (Drew Gibson), it actively increases traction due to your upward motion, and it then reduces grip so your foot can easily turn once the disc is ejected. The timing is critical.
Not only does this form a proper bracing movement, allowing your hip to rotate on a pole, around a fixed position, it also moves the hip backwards which increases your torso rotation rate, which adds distance.
Now, the reason you fall forward instead of finishing balanced on your plant foot, is that your hop means your final step is not terribly long, and you are quite high, so extending your plant leg creates a pole-vaulting action once your leg is straight, whereas the other pros are tacking a much longer final step which causes them to be in a lower position.
But because they are not extending their leg to brace, they collapse on top of it and simply walk through the shot - which takes quite a bit of power out of the smash.
The brace is designed to transfer momentum, and it only really works properly if the body has come to a dead stop by way of the plant leg extending straight, during the elbow extension.
If your viewers want to know what a proper brace is, they can simply stand with feet together and parallel (and keep them parallel) and jump one meter to the right, landing on only their right foot, and then extend that leg to come up onto it, and into static balance. It's easy!
It is MUCH easier than landing on a bent leg, and trying to stay balanced on it. Try it! You have a lifetime history of landing and then extending to come up into balance. It's a very typical skiing movement: the leg extension at the bottom of the turn increases pressure on the ground while the extension takes place. It is a very powerful movement as in skiing you are resisting against huge forces. In disc golf it is similarly athletic and powerful, due to your approach speed.
Flexing a leg reduces pressure on the ground, and hence reduces traction.
You can even demonstrate a full braced position by jumping to the right, landing on your right foot, and then extend radically, jumping back to the left, landing on your left foot. If you do not brace correctly, it is impossible to jump back to the left. These movements are the essence of bracing correctly for disc golf.
This explains James Conrad so much oh man thank you for this breakdown.
I love seeing videos like this, answering the questions about what is happening beforehand and why so that people can test for themselves.
I’m a pilot, the aircraft noise just makes me feel at home. Another great vid Scott, thanks and good luck this season!
Super interesting. Definitely going to give it a try. Only just started throwing 350-400. Maybe this will get me to that next level.
I do something kind of similar to this and it has helped me improve my accuracy a lot. I don't have that powerful of a hop when I throw nor do I keep my arm straight. I use a high kick step kind of like some baseball players use when batting for weight transfer.
how mad to hear a high jump reference at the end there. Good luck this season dude. Can't wait to get coverage :)
I also do something similar and never thought about it until now. When I do my x-step, I leave my weight on my back foot so I can push off of it when I turn. I just do that without thinking about it. Now that I know, I am going to make more of an effort to transfer weight forward because I think that will help me keep the nose down and get a more consistent release.
Scott you are at my favorite spot to practice at Sunset…. That field allows me to get in a good practice when I’m playing there…. Great tip and I’m going to give it a shot… Thanks!
I've worked on a double hop like this too, but for a little different reason. I cracked my left hip socket years ago and it tends to stiffen up (aggravation) over the course of a round. The hop helps me start my rotation (in the air, if that makes sense) with less rotational stress on the hip. Great to see this technique on video- thanks!
I cannot wait for your competitive journey to begin!
Now that's adding a little spring to your step. For me it's worth a try, no matter the outcome. It's only practice anyway. Thanks.
Mastery in explaining yourself to help amateurs not injury themselves trying pro concepts. Thank you. BTW- That knee energy you mentioned is called “triple extension” in baseball pitching mechanics. GG does a hop that drives his body weight onto front hip that would harm a typical player.
This is interesting, the only other player I can think of who hops off their back foot instead of off their lead foot is Mike Moser. But he starts his throw with the hop and is known for his accuracy over distance style of throw. There are plenty of players who hop for distance like GG, Brinster, and Fish to name a few, but you're right in saying that what you do is truly unique. Thanks for the video!
Ulibarri used to do the Moser crow hop.
@@seabas22 You're right! I never looked closely at his old form, I always assumed it was a brinster hop.
Dave Feldberg has a similar hop when he is going for distance…😊
It's a risk vs reward shot for specific situations. It's good to have in your backpocket so to speak. It makes sense to me.
One of my favorite pros. I love watching you play and could listen to you talk about disc golf all day long. Keep it up, and I'll see you on coverage! BTW That logo is sick.
"Insert steve brinster's normal drive" Love ya Scott !!
Love your work since i found it on VHS at the local video store. Google the Fosbury Flop. Hah! Good luck this season.
Terrific explanation of what you're doing. Thank you
Thanks for explaining the hop on the back step Scott ,,best of luck on tour this year,,get that budhill masters on your schedule,, October
Im gonna try this and see what I think. Thanks for sharing!
really enjoy the way you think and teach.
How many guys are we gonna see back foot x step hopping this spring now? ha I know Ill give it a try for sure! Good luck Scott.
Scott you're the man and I love your videos, but what do you think about the fact that no top pro has a backwards x step like you? Basically all of them stay sideways.
I'm there with you...only when I need to get that little step in distance...or my last hole as not scared if I go o.b
..I play that hole and do my best on that hole
I totally understand why you wouldn't teach this. There are so many timings to get right, and there's no way I could recreate that without massive amounts of testing. Recreating a similar timing would be different for every body shape/mobility. However, I can totally see how that could add more whip to your coil. That said, go blast your shots on tour!
Can't wait to try this
I use that extra step when I’m on an uphill run up to my lie. It helps to get that momentum you lose from going uphill
Excellent work!!
Love it Scott! Are you going to be at Belton? I'm hoping to make it down to see peeps and I'd love to see you throw, and maybe even get lucky and meet ya! Thanks buddy!
I'll be there!
This man is a genius in the disc golf world
I need to get accurate before I can sacrifice it. Good video.
😂
Thank you for another fascinating video Scott, I'm guessing that you're going to be pretty selective on which holes you will go with this technique or have you got it down that you can do it on any tee shot that will require a distance driver. Also was wondering if you have tried the 360 style that Simon Lizotte and maybe a few others seem to successfully employ for extra distance. If nothing else it looks pretty cool. However I suspect that I would have a very difficult time getting the timing and coordination down. Your Technique seems a little more approachable.
Actually pretty much all good distance throwers have used a 360 since the late 70s. I set all my World Records (Backhand and Sidearm) with the 360 delivery.
Actually if you think about it...keeping your arm straight could potentially be more accurate. You state it yourself later in the video...reducing variables. When you try and keep the disc level and in place there is a lot more movement in more joints of the arm. Each of those movements/joint introduce additional variables. Whereas keeping your arm straight reduces variables. So long as you can train your muscle memory to always reach back to the same point with a straight arm you've reduced variables.
Reach back is a lot more about 'what's comfortable and helps you engage the other levers". Look at Ricky and Colton both don't have a 'normal' reachback and still bomb.
Love the videos Scott, any knowledge is much appreciated. Good luck this upcoming season
Left leg uses the stretch reflex, by using the hop step.its like the split step in tennis.
Interesting to live in an era where you have huge differences in advice among experienced players.
I see what you did there ... nice.
And oh... 31k and growing fast... very nice!
'bout time lol
You keep breaking rules, Scott, and we’ll keep watching and learning! Looking forward to your first event (looks like Waco, yeah? 😎
LVC is my first Tournament of the season!
@@ScottStokelyDG COOL!
Man this seems really plausible. Watch any good baseball player throw a ball for max distance like from the warning track. You’ll see them take that little hop as well. Might have to give this a try.
The game of throws shirt is just 🤟
I have always wondered why you threw like that! I used to think you just looked goofy, but now I have to respect it. You've obviously thought it through and optimized it for what you do.
Keep with what works unless you're convinced another way is better! (And perhaps another way is better, I don't know, but it may not be worth it to retrain a movement you have already repeated hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of times!)
Scott Your The Man! 🔥
As you likely know the technique has parallels to a 360. The straight arm swing and the big push off a hopping/bouncing back foot. Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see an alternative to a 360 when 50 more feet can save a stroke, and if it is inaccurate, you are throwing an upshot like everyone else. How often do you think you use this on an open course off the tee? Do you ever use it on a level fairway?
In Las Vegas I'll use it on at least half the holes.
you are the best Scott!!
Summers coming! Game of Throws :D
I have a weird technique as well where everyone wonders how I throw far only using a 2 finger grip. I keep my index on the edge of the flight plate and my pinkie tucked under the flight plate with the other 2 fingers inside the rim and thumb pressing on the top of the disc between the some and where the flight plate meet
I just tried the hop out in the field. Didn't work for me at all lmao. That's an interesting little move though
Just do the 360. Primal grunt, facial contort, and ass plant. Javelin Throw commitment
I usually let a gutteral scream out when I want an extra 75 feet
Interesting... This had been my drive form/run since the early 90's. I obviously wasnt doing it quite right, as my accuracy and distance was crap for about 20yrs. Only recently have I 'started over' and am working on the more 'standard' run w/o a hop. Im tossing further now, but accuracy is still pretty bad. Tbh, the hop step did give me more time, but it obviously wasnt helping. I guess I need to start over before I fall back into a technique that was hurting me for 2 decades. Thanks for the vid and showing me that 20 yrs of bad accuracy was partly due to poor form from the pre-internet/education days.
Speaking as a 50yr old you are correct, you do throw farther than other 50+ 👍
If you are ever in the Jacksonville FL area i would love to hire you for lessons! We have a course on Amelia island that is 162 holes woth 20 baskets and just short of 5 acres with a group of 6-8 that love to learn.
What? Which course is this?
How would you compare this to Eric Oakley's form?
Everybody throws with key fundamentals that are the same.
I dig it. Kind of like a crow hop for forehand
Cool secret technique 🤘🏻
Yep, I might try it but what I take from this and what I've been saying to myself all along is that it's better to have a quirky method or form that makes you better than religiously trying to have the "perfect" form that might make you worse at disc golf. We are all different built and our muscles and joints move and react differently so it's kinda stupid to think that there is only one correct way and everything else is "forbidden" and laughable. I'm turning 52 in a week and haven't played for more than 3 months (that's actively, as I started last august and then we had early harsh winter here) and at first I religiously followed the "rules" how to throw and I almost ruined my arm and lower back until I realized to adjust to my abilities and joint/muscle movements. Now I throw farther and better than younger people do after playing for a couple of years. Don't force your body to do unnatural things and use your smarts as much as power and force. Keep up the good work. Great videos and it'll be fun to watch someone my own age at the tour.
Does this work for ultimate discs too?
That is how I would throw it
Game of Throws🗡
Hey TH-cam, this content is good.
I needed to put tinfoil on my antenna to listen to this.
I don't think its on the teacher to control interpretation of his/her teachings, I get very little from Disc Golf coaching because of the disclaimer "every body is different"
Forbidden jitsu unlocked 🔓
I believe Brinster and JohnE have a similar hop.
it's funny I naturally do the Hop step and I've been trying to phase it out until I watched this
I think I heard Climo call a foot fault on that one, lol!!
When u get back.
A big draw would be,
Playing 18 holes.
Anywhere....
But with..
2 man best shot .
Stokley.
Hammock.
Climo.
Schultz.
Ron Russell.
Nate doss.
Rico.
Eric McCabe.
Brian scweby.
.......
Kevin McCoy.
Phil Arthur.
John McCray.
Eric Martin.
Al shack.
Feldberg.
Chris orrick.
Will schustric.
Dean tannock.
Joey lefty.
Etc. A big , live 2 man best shot. I'm sure the players would sure have a good time.
Is this Scott Stokely!?
Yes, it's me
@@ScottStokelyDG haha, just thought it was funny since it says Stokely in the corner, the channel is Scott Stokely and then you introduce yourself at the start. If anyone is still confused in the comments 😬
Been throwing for 40 years....and been using the hop-step for the last 10. Definitely helps older players with bad knees.
I'm thinking, lets fix my ¨basic¨ form first then go for hop skip and a jump for the extra 50-75 ft...
How far do you think the average 50 yr old professional throws a flat, no wind drive? I am 48 and will be trying to go MP50 in a year. I have been a traditional golf professional (mini tours and PGA Master Professional) but I think there is more growth potential in disc golf and I would like to be a part of it.
I think most max at around 500'
It helps when you have the wingspan of a Honda Civic!
This seems very similar to what some of the Europeans (Kristin Tattar) are doing. Could be worth looking into
For an exaggerated version of this technique, checkout Eric Oakley. Arm super down and straight, giant hop off the back step.
I think I do this on my standstill sorta
Straight from the master, people listen….
Swedish style straight arm backswing
Scott one day I’m going to run into you at sunset park and say “hi”
Fosberry flop . . . Stokely stroke!