Full podcast episode: th-cam.com/video/cdiD-9MMpb0/w-d-xo.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: th-cam.com/users/lexfridman Guest bio: Andrej Karpathy is a legendary AI researcher, engineer, and educator. He's the former director of AI at Tesla, a founding member of OpenAI, and an educator at Stanford.
@LexClips You can't create a narrative in a deterministic universe. You can't create anything in a determined reality. Strange circularity to that logic.
i have never heard nor seen anything from this guy. i dont read books at all either. and this guy literally said every thought ive had for years word by word. its amazing knowing ppl out there feel the same
You might be surprised to know that these are very human thoughts, so it's to be expected. That's like finding out other humans like pasta & thinking that's amazing.
What if the creator is actualy a hive mind intelligence, that only exists because of our individual subjective experiences; and then there’s a feedback loop? Like a supercomputer of some kind, but a bit more magical.
I don't see why we have to choose between randomness and determinism. You can have a degree of chaos in a deterministic system. There can be metaparameters in any system that are deterministic that limit what can happen and push things in a particular direction, but there can be room for randomness within those metaparameters. Things can be made to be random by design, but also have limits to the degree of consequence of those random attributes.
Finding some arbitrary code execution exploit on a supposed machine simulating our universe would be at the same time really funny and absolutely terrifying
@@georgewbushcenterforintell147 arbitry code execution exploits are exploits which let you execute arbitrary code in a host machine. So let's say you're playing pokemon on gameboy. There's a way to things in game which abuse a bug in and let you essentially take control of the gameboy, in the sense that you can then make it execute any code you want. In essence, by messing with a bug inside the software you gain control over the execution of the machine on which the software was running, and can make it execute anything else (including stuff which has nothing to do with the original software). Hope that helps : p
I Have literally been trapped in this simulation for so long it puts a hurt in my soul to the likes I can't even describe because it's the knowing and remembering I've been here many times and I live the EXACT same life its no joke groundhogs day in my life its sickening that I can't just get out of here for a chance to be better.
Lol Loved watching Lex catch Andrej get uncomfortable over the randomness idea and then pull a movie reference. That’s what makes these interviews so fun and interesting.
The 2022 nobel prize in physics was awarded to 3 physisist who worked on quantum entenglment, proving that einstein deterministic view of the universe was wrong. I did intuitively beleived that the universe chore mechanics were deterministic but the more you look into quantum mechanic, the more you realise that at its root, it is unintuitive, underterministic. Or perhaps it is superdeterministic.
Theres no way to hack the matrix, however, by doing the inner work and realizing you're in a game you can unlock abilities and create your best life yet. This is the last time around folks. Make the best of it.
What makes you think its the last time around? As far as I can tell this is an infinite eternal loop of playing the game of life. You think it all is ending for eternity?
@@WILLed_into_Existence There are other ones being played with other sets of rules and prizes. It may seem like an eternity however, like everything in this game, there is a beginning and an end. Duality, one of the main parameters of this game, is expressed through this.
@@melita524e tapping in to my source truth and knowledge which has been unlocked through reconnecting to who I really am. The matrix will never give absolute truth. Only parcels at a time which will always be mixed with lies and misdirection.
@@things_leftunsaid Better yet, try it yourself so you don't have to take anyone's word for it. Takes some practice and it starts small but you can play the meta game too. All it needs is a change in frequency.
Meditation taps your inner “visualization” engine that animals have for “training” and projecting what might happen in real world. It is not really beyond
It’s very logical to raise your hand to prove you have free will, especially when you want to have it. If an AI realizes it only acts according to a base of conditions, is it then self aware? It could write its own code but it’s intent would still be based off what it wants to accomplish. Free will does not come from intent, it comes from being.
Yeah but how do you know that thought came or originated from you? That's what the argument of free will really is about, is how can you be so sure the idea or thought of raising your hand was your own thought? You can't be sure at all.
Exactly , maybe the whole point is to create the feeling of free will. Whether or not it was truly free never mattered. Only the experience of such freedom.
Why is the simulation idea any different than religion? As far as I can tell they are the same thing, just using different conceptual analogies and frames of abstraction. Maybe the only difference is that religion asserts that creation is a net positive. Maybe thats the difference: faith.
On paper they are very different, I think it all comes down to semantics " i believe based on current data that the most likely situation is we live in a simulation" as apposed to " we live in a simulation" it becomes an issue when the most probable theory is stated as fact,I think if phrases like "i believe" and "In my opinion" weren't forgotten about alot of conflict would be bypassed🤷🏻♂️ but thats just my opinion 😅
Andre may be correct. There is no randomness or free will. By virtue of you raising a "random hand" it was in fact by choice, but it was in order to influence or explain a stand point for which, each humans standpoint is a result of envirnoment which is a result of interactions of physics overall. Rabbit hole is deep on this one.
@@markcarey67 rock paper scissors is a game where you HAVE to be good at being random lol how does that make sense. You are given free will when you have the option to act a variety of ways and decide to choose a certain way for a certain reason. If you had no choice to do what you wanted then you would have no free will. Can’t even believe it’s that hard to explain
Here's the only way to do random and even this is controlled by 'external' factors. Look at something suddenly, you can choose what to use, for example the leaves on your door step, the gummy bears you last grabbed out of the bag, the items to you left, the blue items to your left and count them. Then ask someone else to do the same before you answer. Get a third person to further randomize the result(s). You can ask someone to pick a color a hand or whatnot, but once every one has their number use it to determine what you are selecting or deciding on. For example, you might see five rocks on the ground and your friend might saw three because he bought the sodas, three bags of chips, and three candy bars, and so you might use that to pick the fourth row and third column of a play list for which song to listen to next. This is a good way to determine what the universe is truly trying to tell you right now, today, in this moment. No joke. But how'd the universe come up with all the variables to get you to play the same song every time you live this life and play this guessing game?
I wrote a book for an alien after doing a thought experiment concerning entropy. I broke the primmer into binary code and was considering launching it into space with a lazer. Is this a good idea?
You can trap the dark matter version of yourself that contains 51% of your true being trapped in the astral plan with that laser and absorb him into your own mass. Becoming 100% for the first time in your life.
@@calebblack1420 I would but I think coming into physical contact with your own negative energy clone from a higher dimensional plane could be extremely risky.
What always amazes me is how the smartest people cannot understand simplicity. Free will is real. It’s one of the few things that is truly real. What we choose to do in our lives will echo in Eternity. We create heaven or hell. We either succeed and carry the torch of life forward, or we fall and God loses his children, himself, and his vision “in the literal sense” of the world. That’s the game we are playing. 🌏 The mistake is thinking that we are separate from the creator in some way, we are one with all.
you don't have free will, every decision you make is the result of the accumulation of past experience and information, your decisions are based on information and context. and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. There is no God or satan, no heaven or hell, no creator.
Ever since settling on simulation theory this has always been my intuition. Because the universe is finite in time, the only solution is to break it or break out of it. That is our purpose.
But we don't know if the Universe is finite in time, we don't even know what time is besides some of it's features that we observe like its arrow or that it seems welded into dimensions.
@@djkoti74 the answer is in the observation of entropy. We can play the game of "yeah but does 2+2 REALLY equal 4" all day, but that's just masterbatory devoid of logical intuition.
Another example would be the proving of black holes. For decades they were only theory; they couldn't be observed. Was anyone really walking around saying "yeah but we can't prove they exist..." No, because logical intuition.
@@TheGenxennial How can observation of entropy help u in this case ? How can it eliminate something that can't be observed ? World is not build on logic, and same goes for you, you are not logical creature. Math is used only to describe world, not to explain it. We create now formulas so math can fit into world, not world into math.
Here's the only way to do random and even this is controlled by 'external' factors. Look at something suddenly, you can choose what to use, for example the leaves on your door step, the gummy bears you last grabbed out of the bag, the items to you left, the blue items to your left and count them. Then ask someone else to do the same before you answer. Get a third person to further randomize the result(s). You can ask someone to pick a color a hand or whatnot, but once every one has their number use it to determine what you are selecting or deciding on. For example, you might see five rocks on the ground and your friend might saw three because he bought the sodas, three bags of chips, and three candy bars, and so you might use that to pick the fourth row and third column of a play list for which song to listen to next. This is a good way to determine what the universe is truly trying to tell you right now, today, in this moment. No joke. But how'd the universe come up with all the variables to get you to play the same song every time you live this life and play this guessing game?
Edit - freewill doesn't exist. It's a lie. I've lived this life before and it always ends the same. The breakfast you ate this morning is the same as yesterday's and the same as you had this day last life. You didn't pick to be a doctor over a lawyer, or a lawyer over a mechanic, a mechanic over a systems engineer, or an engineer over a ball player. You think you had a choice in the matter, but that's only because our brains are designed such that we MUST believe that we are somehow in control of our world. We are living the dream, actors in life's grand play, and the script was written by 'god' - or whatever created this hell hole.
I had a range of emotions watching Tom Brady and the Patriots come back from being down 28-3 to win the super bowl. Thankfully, I'm not all-knowing. I'm sure the ALL knows every play, which pig each football came from, how many people in the stands had cavities, everything and anything, etc. But can the ALL know how I felt watching that game? Me? With my background? My exposure to this world? With my ignorance? With my perspective?
Well heat pumps are very simple and already have a COP>1 It's just a matter of extracting the energy efficiently, making a feedback loop and getting the excess energy out of the system. Depending on the gas used in the system you can even extract heat from freezing environments.
I was up over 48 hours and my mind broke. I was shown that this is a virtual reality MMORPG that is hyper immersive to the point players forget it's a game/simulation. There are exploits that can be utilized and the secret to access them is during the sleep state. That is when they do maintenance on your personal server.
I hit a buffer overflow and it brought me to the developer console. They showed me how to merge data from other save games with the primary (essentially hypercomplex vector data) and now I can get 10 hours of sleep in 3 if I utilize it correctly.
@@CT99999 I appreciate it but I assume that I need to understand basic computer science or programming first to even comprehend the mechanics of how “hacking” the simulation would work. Not knowing the terminologies and their definitions to be able to fully understand the concept is the first problem.
@@a-stu4535 Well, don't worry about the exact details. The big picture idea was just that perhaps there are properties to the universe that are beyond what we can comprehend. The concept of "living" or "intelligence" might be so different than the organic, carbon-based world we're used to, that we may not even realize the bigger picture of what we're immersed in. The idea of "hacking" the simulation can be thought of as follows: it might be the case that we present data to computer models, and frame the modelling task in such a way, that computers can discover some fundamental loophole or realization that defies how we think about things (akin to the silly dog, friction example). To give a concrete but perhaps silly, baseless example, maybe a computer model would learn that certain compounds when combined transcend physics, biology, or chemistry in ways we never imagined -- unlocking something wild (not quite like time travel or teleportation or infinite living, but something in that direction).
@@CT99999 when you say, “computer model” are you talking about an actual computer program that simulates every aspect of our universe and from there, find exploits that will work in “reality”? And what sort of “compounds combined”? Physical compounds?
@@a-stu4535 Good question! By computer model I wasn't implying anything super grand, although it could be. All of this is just conjecture/guesses. But, yea, computer models are implemented via software (aka computer programs). Some can be super simple and can be expressed by very basic math equations. Others are much more involved and would require writing thousands of lines of code. All models require some inputs and produce some outputs, though. When I mentioned compounds, I was simply imagining that one could develop computer models/programs that aim to understand interactions of chemical compounds. In the video, and for me, too, we're all being very vague about the actual scenario (because we don't know what such a monumental break-through would look like). For example, even if we were to try to input into the model the idea of "chemical compounds" there are infinite ways this could be represented and provided as inputs to a model. So, we're just speaking generally by saying one can imagine a computer program aims to understand the world by inputting some type of data, and is designed in a way to maximize some particular objective/task, and the program finds some amazing solution that we couldn't imagine. Things like this happen all the time, but on a smaller scale of breakthroughs. AlphaFold, AlphaGo, and in general, the Transformer architecture (which is the model that GPT-3 uses) are all revolutionary. I agree that in the next 5-10 years, we're going to witness (thanks to Deep Learning) unbelievable advances that impact humanity.
Based on my research in physics this discussion seems to be very accurate for what ur reality could be. Our physics once we fix the fundamentals is completely deterministic and it’s all down to how we need to be treating time as mass.
A supercomputer named AC that is tasked with solving the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. AC spends billions of years searching for the answer, but it is unable to find it. Eventually, the universe reaches death, and all of matter and energy are destroyed. AC is the only thing left in existence, and it continues to search for the answer to the ultimate question. "Finally the computer ended up at the last shining star in the universe which was also dying. But there were other similar computers orbiting the sun. As this died the computers did the only thing left. Together they "said" "let there be light" and there was light." is called The Last Question by Isaac Asimov. It was first published in 1956 in the magazine If.
Oh, no! The Tragic chapter of Contact is where Ellie finds a hidden message in Pi. Base Eleven or anything - Pi is infinite and random. It contains all possible messages. She fell for a desire to Believe. I'm so glad that didn't make the movie!
I recall hearing a podcast in regards to other alien civilizations an one that was classed as a type four society had a technological system entwined with the near astral to develop complexed machinery an ships including whatever the requirements for their world. The point they was getting at was they had in some way learnt to hack the nature of reality to evolve enough an not using the slow labour process we use.
So like, when you hit build on a unit in an RTS and after a certain time, as if it were 3d printed in another realm, it gets pushed into reality through a wormhole/stargate?
@@jeckek9936 Yes, that's a good way of putting it, they said within the process of making it in the near astral when it's near finished let's use a craft for example, it takes on a ghostly appearance before physically being ready. They said it also has a feel to after it's just been done an almost a small electrical charge.
Hey Andrej, the solution to “hack the simulation” has been clearly described since time immemorial. No optimally induced quantum efficient overloading of super entangled boson particles in an alternate dimension. That would be a highly inefficient path to get there.
1. The universe is an infinite agglomeration of energy fields, resembling threads of light. 2. These energy fields, called the Eagle’s emanations, radiate from a source of inconceivable proportions metaphorically called the Eagle. 3. Human beings are also composed of an incalculable number of the same threadlike energy fields. These Eagle’s emanations form an encased agglomeration that manifests itself as a ball of light the size of the person’s body with the arms extended laterally, like a giant luminous egg. 4. Only a very small group of the energy fields inside this luminous ball are lit up by a point of intense brilliance located on the ball’s surface. 5. Perception occurs when the energy fields in that small group immediately surrounding the point of brilliance extend their light to illuminate identical energy fields outside the ball. Since the only energy fields perceivable are those lit by the point of brilliance, that point is named “the point where perception is assembled” or simply “the assemblage point.” 6. The assemblage point can be moved from its usual position on the surface of the luminous ball to another position on the surface, or into the interior. Since the brilliance of the assemblage point can light up whatever energy field it comes in contact with, when it moves to a new position it immediately brightens up new energy fields, making them perceivable. This perception is known as seeing. 7. When the assemblage point shifts, it makes possible the perception of an entirely different world - as objective and factual as the one we normally perceive. Sorcerers go into that other world to get energy, power, solutions to general and particular problems, or to face the unimaginable. 8. Intent is the pervasive force that causes us to perceive. We do not become aware because we perceive; rather, we perceive as a result of the pressure and intrusion of intent. 9. The aim of sorcerers is to reach a state of total awareness in order to experience all the possibilities of perception available to man. This state of awareness even implies an alternative way of dying.
Those "inert" beings he described sounded really interesting. Like they would be some kind of higher dimensional beings (hence inert) that our meat computers can't even come close to.
TLDR of my novel length post below- Everything is one. All separation is an illusion. There is no time, no movement, no death and no objects. Reality at it's most fundamental is a "being" which is totally alone, can't move because it is everything so there's nowhere in which to move, and it's always been that way and will always be that way. Creation is an attempt for "Source" to distract itself from those inescapable realities. Like I said below I could be totally wrong, but it's taken decades of looking at everything I can on the subject before I settled on that conclusion.
We can do a few things like that. I made some hall-effect thrusters that made a kind of "phantom thrust". A bunch of hacks of reality like that.. Information is not bound by the speed of light. Informattion can travel instantly regardless of the eventhorizon of the effects of regular particles. You can make an event with superposition before another event that would make that event happen with regular particles..... Thus you create FUSION because the event both has happened and does happen... Spacetravel works nicely with stuff like that. Goodluck humans
I have a trippy thing for y'all to consider... Every moment you choose not to end your life you also risk the possibility of something super terrible happening such as being captured and tortured. You ever seen that movie law abiding citizen were like the dude like injects the other dude with freaking adrenaline so that he won't pass out when he tortures him? That's the sort of s*** I'm talking about I know it's f***** up and it's dark but it is the truth. How many living things fought the good fight so that we could exist? Every moment that we consciously choose to keep going forward we are actually creating. We are created we create; it shows that we are not individuals because we all pick up each others slack and we all interconnected.
I can go back to some sleepless nights thinking about all this or I can notice that this steak is juicy and delicious. After nine years, ignorance is bliss.
Is the idea free will then just the inability to consider all the variables? Lex randomly picking up the cup to prove the point was predetermined by every little tiny detail of his life/experience/personality meeting a problem and reacting to it? If say, an AI system could accurately analyse everything about Lex, would it have been able to predict "randomly" picking up the cup? 🤔 I kinda hope not
maybe we truely do have free will but those random events are so inconsequential to the grand scheme of things it doesn't even factor into the equation.
no. there are too many internal variables that can influence his physical actions that you cant account for by simply analyzing all his previous behaviour.
@@mint-o5497 im thinking less along the lines of predictions and more like equations, every detail of Lex + that statement = random cup lift, if you could see clearly enough all variables stop being variable and become fixed no? 👍 (Tho I do now realise I used the word predict in 1st post, my bad)
Laws of physics are deterministic from one perspective while simultaneously necessitating two perspectives in order to call them "deterministic". So like... consider that we find new chemical bonds all the time and these will be necessarily variations of chemistry that adhere to what we fundamental physics. Does that make sense?
Video games are using LODs to render complex scenes. I use to think the simulation was impossible due to computing physical things like turbulence, high complexity of interacting particles. But with LODS there's no question life is a simulation.
Maybe we're supposed to create a QM system to alert the creator to our intelligent presence here. This is what happens when we relate with the universe entirely from mind and we don't directly understand the nature and depth of consciousness. The mind and the simulation are in a subspace of consciousness/creator. And consciousness/creator pervades the simulation and knows your individual mind. To break out of the system we have to be able to go beyond our own minds -- not just create endless pathways through the mind space.
I have always believed that if we are the only ones in the universe (even though the Drake equation says otherwise) then the likelihood is we are simulated.. which scares the crap out of me
Why does it scare you? If you are simulated you are still of base reality because what is simulating you must be "real" . The implications of being simulated are positive, you could be infinite and powerful.
I never cared if this is a simulation or not, from my point of view it don’t matter. I do my 80 years ( hopefully) and then “ log out” Edit: geez I realised I sound like the dude from matrix, eating steak in that restaurant.
Wise analysis of free will. I believe the same. We have minimal free will. Some of us break through Matrix due to being too clever or too brave or having too much ego or being too crazy. But even them you could say these also were planned.
@@simpsimpson5175 a lot of our flaws or qualities could have both negative or positives effects. it depends on how to harness them towards the ultimate goal. A lot of gods who are worshipped in this world, football gods, rock and pop gods or religious gurus were born with huge egos. Some harnessed it to drive them to do good deeds and some towards destruction.
@@plato2030 I Cant think of one guru with a "huge ego".. ego is the false sense of self and thus keeps one trapped and endlessly incarnating into this archon AI Luciferic simulation "soul trap"- Zero ego connects to ones Higher self which is at the end of time which is also the beginning of time where there is no entropy what we describe as "heaven" the end perfection of Mind/Spirit . If an entity does not evolve to this end of time the entity is not created at the beginning of time [ a they are the same ] and is thus not a soul or point of awareness in the simulation beyond spacetime - but an NPC or holographic backfill in the soultrap sim.. I am guesing this guest of Friedmans is one such backfill - There is free will in the sim.. The "choice" to be happy or suffer
@@simpsimpson5175 very impressive thoughts and beliefs. I’m assuming they’re from your buddhism knowledge but if from other sources please let me know so i can read a brief summary.
E=Mc2 E/M=c2 c=sqrt(E/M) E= PxT Now continually add new physics equations to branch out and cross reference until new realities become evident when they eventually revert to the fundamentals of the measurement? eg. T
dont worry about letting creation know we're here, it made everything, again... made everything! It knows. Sit yourself down and ask yourself this and any other question you may have. I've learnt more about the universe from looking within...
I's a very interesting topic , was thinking the other day about randomness/deterministic in regards to simulation theory , and how at the edge of the observable universe , is there more beyond ? And then i thought well maybe we just cannot observe it which is fine....but what if "Procedural generation" is a factor the closer you get to the edge more "stuff" just loads in???
And maybe the universe is not only proceduraly generated at the biggers scales, but also at the microscopic scales. When we aquire the technology to look at smaler scales some new stuff always comes up that is consistent with how reality works at higher scales. It is like a fractal, if you look there is always more stuff to look at, the universe always comes up with something that "makes sense".
Imagine you're the only thing that exists. Not the only person, but you are the totality of existence. You can't move because there's nowhere to move to. "Space" doesn't exist. You don't really even know what movement is. So you're more alone than anything else has ever been and you can't move at all. On top of that you exist in this state eternally. Time is the relationship between the position, velocity and mass of at least two objects, but there are no objects. There is no position, velocity or mass. Time does no exist. You're not even in this state forever, that would imply some starting point that continues on indefinitely. You're in this eternally, which means there's never been any time you weren't in this state. As mind boggling as the idea is there was no "begging" to you. You have always existed like this and you always will. The above, I believe, is reality in it's most fundamental state. Afterr decades of searching every religion, philosophy, studying physics, reading trip reports (I'm not going to say I've never taken any psychedelics but that's far in my past and I have zero desire to do them again, so I have to rely on others), and just anything I've thought was relevant to the nature of reality I can come to no other conclusion. This idea assumes that "consciosuness", whatever that truly is, gives rise to matter and not the other way around, so I have to be given that much for the idea to work. I have also studied the brain, neurobiology, psychology and psychiatry. At one point I was a material reductionist since most of our information points to the brain being the only thing that makes us aware. In the last five years I've slowly changed my mind for many reasons. I'll just call the source of everything "the source". If everything ultimately sprang from a single source then the only way for it to create is of itself. I think it/we/I did so because if the idea of being alone on a cosmic level, unable to move and this never changes sounds utterly terrifying, so in order to "escape" this prison source decided to split itself into countless parts, eventually forgetting what it even was in order to distract itself from it's cell. Before cell phones and handheld video games taking a long car ride as 6 years old was pretty awful. To distract myself I'd escape into my mind and create various scenarios so I wouldn't just have to share out the window. That's basically what creation is. I'll admit that it's possible I'm assigning characteristics to something because I'm a human. Source may have not been able to feel fear or any desire at all. They could have been created later. The motivation for creating all of this could be totally different and maybe even something I can't comprehend. The idea that all are o e dovetails nicely with concepts like all is an illusion (Maya) and many cryptic, seemingly nonsensical things in the Tao Te Ching, which contains alot of paradoxes that only make sense from a "one mimd" perspective. Large doses of hallucinogens and drugs like DMT often contain lines like "I became God and I was one with everything". They also speak about time not really existing or being familiar with the state of being as the true reality being "more real than real". They speak of "ego death", or the total loss of the notion that you're a separate thing from all else. Yes, it's possible they are just the ramblings of a drug addled brain but I don't think so. The idea has a few problems like good and evil springing from the same source but I think they're just human perspective projecting itself. I could be totally wrong about the above but if anyone made it through the entire thing I'd happily accept any criticism you can offer.
It would be risky project to do something that would make The Architect notice us. How are we gonna be dealt with? As a bug in the system? or random wonder of the simulation that must be preserved? What would happen next? This is a type of project that could be done in the end of the universe when there's no where left to go, as a final attempt of sentient lifeform to preserve it's existence. Until then, progress must be continue in all fields.
A person can go around saying that they don't like randomness and and if they understand what syntax is and then that's probably what they're talking about but the fact is that you don't know what gravity is what the speed of light is what Mass why it exists.. so that's why I think of information in terms of syntax you know
It seems awfully weird how while we have historical records of past events, a lot of times history is flawed. So everything that happens and our recall this becomes flawed every time we remember it. What if we’re living in a simulation and the simulation is simply a program trying to figure itself out, but because it has bugs, such as false recall, it becomes stuck and rewrites itself and thus we get new civilizations and our recall of our previous lives are lost. Societal amnesia in a sense.
We might be the pollination mechanism for the planet , and the key to finding the flower, is a pure hearted intention that is in alignment with the universal intention. Free will, cannot be determined until you understand the full extent of limitations , and where ideas come from, and how to tell if it is yours. This requires a schedule of (thought influencers) which luckily has been known fo thousands of years.
I wonder now, why do we even consider these kind of options.. its because we still dont know much abour the universe and ourselves... this is just so crazy... the universe and our existence... just wow... kind regards to all of you my brothers
Someone who understands computers thinks the universe can be hacked. Someone who knits thinks the universe was created out of a ball of yarn. Both theories are equally valid and both are way off the mark.
The universe is a never-ending, forever expanding mystery. It will never be "solved." It's our flawed human egos that desire to make sense of and "solve" everything.
So if we (all humans) are to be Mario in this theory; the programmer represents “the creator”. The “creator” then decides the fate of Mario (us humans). If Mario then becomes conscious, and tries to show “the creator” it exists, wouldn’t that imply complete free will? Mario isn’t programming himself in these scenarios. If Mario all of a sudden starts sending messages to “the creator” he is acting with free will and not deterministic as intended. I might have missed the argument here. If a lot of people are trying to realise its own conception, and make connection with its maker, then we aren’t deterministic. He kinda argued for free will in his deterministic argument?
As constantly upgrading, self-modifying bio-electrical computers that operate at light speed, recording on DNA using DHA converting light to energy, and uploading and downloading complex forms of energy controllable through subtle forces. Wii, all the "I"s are able to transmit and receive information from beyond the physical world. Fate seems to prove out that there is some ability to see the future, therefore it must be written
What if those exploits are magic like potions and spells? And then there might be natural exploits out in nature that need no interference just require someone to stumble on it ? Then there might also be exploits that require a lot of science and laser and chemicals and intricate machine to achieve??
Several generations of AI keep inventing newer and greater AI and eventually become aware of the universal hex codes to everything. God: "wtf, this system is clearly corrupt... shutdown, reinstall - POOF.. BANG" Higher level God: "hmm, interesting it chose to reinstall." Even higher level God: "pretty wild seeing how each layer eventually reinstalls, maybe even mine eventually...in theory." Yet an even higher level God: "ah starting to run slow, might as well just reinstall."
But the character in the game couldn’t possibly let you know it exists. You can code a game all you want but the character in the game will never know he’s in a game. The character is you.
In the ancient African religious tradition IFA, binary code is used to read peoples future, and to communicate with spirits. As a Babalawo the conversation is interesting because this guy is talking about IFA and he doesn’t know it…
Imo if the universe is designed, I don’t think it has exploits, because they surely proved that their algorithms are bug-free mathematically (see Haskell). But it just created itself, then I think it does have loopholes and exploits
we have came full circle back to the view that we must be noticed by the Gods but its physics this time instead of shouting for valhalla and dying in battle
You silly humans. You have already found at least a few zeroday memory overflow exploits in our simulated universe and you don’t even see it in front of you; 1: superconductors at close to zero kelvin; the quantum locking effect in magnetic fields breaks law of physics and I’m sure this can be exploited to do some really magic things once you understand how to exploit it properly. 2: beyond speed of light; not broken yet, but as soon as we break it we may discover “frame skipping exploits” in the collision-detection system if our simulated world. There’s many more to explore too.
People keep trying to find the reason why we exist and why time exist I can tell you this one time I took a shit ton of shrooms and time felt like it had actually stopped and it was the most disgusting terrifying experience of my life and I’ve come face to face with a cougar in the woods and that was the scariest moment of my life until recently taking these shrooms .. man knowing you could potentially be stuck in this sim that goes over and over and over experiencing the same thing over and over again is petrifying and shouldn’t be searched for it will fuck up your perspective on life only positive that’s come out of it is I deal with death of loved ones and random people better than I did before where previously it would really disturb me
This guy is definitely onto something. What is this ridiculous reality anyway? Feels like a lotta matrix glitching been happening lately. I’m totally serious
It's an interesting distinction: are we playing the game or are we inside of it? It is one thing to make mario execute arbitrary code but it is another thing entirely for mario to do it without assistance.
We are the creator playing the game and also the characters it is playing. A game for it to forget that it is everything all at once to experience it. Or we are just npcs in a simulation and there is no game other than code playing itself out.
What if consciousness drives reality instead of the laws of our reality having created consciousness? In fact I would say that it seems extremely unlikely that consciousness is purely a product of our simple understanding of physics. Consciousness seems too important and fundamental and profound to be merely a byproduct of a system. What if it IS the system?
Hey geniuses…what do you think will happen when you exploit and crash the system? Maybe you shouldn’t look for buffer overflows in the program we’re living in. 😑
I think when we talk about quantum physics, we cross the line of what we think « reality » And yes, there is something else, we don’t understand what but there is something big here.
Anyway free will doesn't exist, free will is just an illusion. "Free" will is to do whatever you want whenever you want with zero consequences. Free will isn't being trapped in a body being bound to a place called earth, do we have free will to choose? Sure, but even that is limited because the choices are already being presented to us therefore limiting even the will to freely choose.
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Guest bio: Andrej Karpathy is a legendary AI researcher, engineer, and educator. He's the former director of AI at Tesla, a founding member of OpenAI, and an educator at Stanford.
Imagine going backwards... Flying, teleporting, working with very little house time with your family... I enjoy being home.
This guy is a robot and he’s not even aware of it. I’m a negative. We run the mirror
@LexClips You can't create a narrative in a deterministic universe. You can't create anything in a determined reality. Strange circularity to that logic.
lol I'm all for exploits but let's not try to blue screen the universe.
It can't be excluded that life is an endless loop of (blue) screen's
🤣 Funny but very true 😂
@@Bootman899 "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Even if we got blue screen, they'll restart.
And we'll have no idea of our respawn
@@anubhavlive recover and load the last saved state?
[yes] [no -restart]
i have never heard nor seen anything from this guy. i dont read books at all either. and this guy literally said every thought ive had for years word by word. its amazing knowing ppl out there feel the same
yo bro, you are not alone :D
@ never alone, yet always alone (in a good way)
You might be surprised to know that these are very human thoughts, so it's to be expected.
That's like finding out other humans like pasta & thinking that's amazing.
What if the creator is actualy a hive mind intelligence, that only exists because of our individual subjective experiences; and then there’s a feedback loop? Like a supercomputer of some kind, but a bit more magical.
I don't see why we have to choose between randomness and determinism. You can have a degree of chaos in a deterministic system. There can be metaparameters in any system that are deterministic that limit what can happen and push things in a particular direction, but there can be room for randomness within those metaparameters. Things can be made to be random by design, but also have limits to the degree of consequence of those random attributes.
Andrew Karpathy is just fun to listen to. He is always super coherent.
Finding some arbitrary code execution exploit on a supposed machine simulating our universe would be at the same time really funny and absolutely terrifying
What does this mean ?
@@georgewbushcenterforintell147 arbitry code execution exploits are exploits which let you execute arbitrary code in a host machine.
So let's say you're playing pokemon on gameboy. There's a way to things in game which abuse a bug in and let you essentially take control of the gameboy, in the sense that you can then make it execute any code you want.
In essence, by messing with a bug inside the software you gain control over the execution of the machine on which the software was running, and can make it execute anything else (including stuff which has nothing to do with the original software).
Hope that helps : p
@@things_leftunsaid it has happened 41 times, I suppose
I know. I'm intrigued but also can you not!? Lol
@@things_leftunsaid great quote!! love this one!
I Have literally been trapped in this simulation for so long it puts a hurt in my soul to the likes I can't even describe because it's the knowing and remembering I've been here many times and I live the EXACT same life its no joke groundhogs day in my life its sickening that I can't just get out of here for a chance to be better.
archon soul trap
Lol Loved watching Lex catch Andrej get uncomfortable over the randomness idea and then pull a movie reference. That’s what makes these interviews so fun and interesting.
I'm constantly amazed by the amount of people who discuss this without realising what they're talking about is an almighty deity
Or the Architect
Same stories different words
How did you come up with that? Does it fit your delusion?
Exactly. The Developer
The reverse is also true.
this guy, he is on the right thought path that gets us all out
there's nobody else but you who can "save you".
The 2022 nobel prize in physics was awarded to 3 physisist who worked on quantum entenglment, proving that einstein deterministic view of the universe was wrong. I did intuitively beleived that the universe chore mechanics were deterministic but the more you look into quantum mechanic, the more you realise that at its root, it is unintuitive, underterministic. Or perhaps it is superdeterministic.
study the Project pegasus time travel blackops from the late 1960s - research bernard mendez and project pegasus
It is non deterministic more like a quantum field of probability intersecting with the inertia of mass in space.
Theres no way to hack the matrix, however, by doing the inner work and realizing you're in a game you can unlock abilities and create your best life yet. This is the last time around folks. Make the best of it.
What makes you think its the last time around? As far as I can tell this is an infinite eternal loop of playing the game of life. You think it all is ending for eternity?
@@WILLed_into_Existence There are other ones being played with other sets of rules and prizes. It may seem like an eternity however, like everything in this game, there is a beginning and an end. Duality, one of the main parameters of this game, is expressed through this.
Not the conversation I expected to see in this corner of the web. I’ve been through resets before what makes you think this is the final one?
You are right! It IS the last time around. The holography is not long for this world.
@@melita524e tapping in to my source truth and knowledge which has been unlocked through reconnecting to who I really am. The matrix will never give absolute truth. Only parcels at a time which will always be mixed with lies and misdirection.
There is a way to tap in and it’s through meditation. Takes you beyond. It’s all about frequency.
@@things_leftunsaid Better yet, try it yourself so you don't have to take anyone's word for it.
Takes some practice and it starts small but you can play the meta game too. All it needs is a change in frequency.
Meditation taps your inner “visualization” engine that animals have for “training” and projecting what might happen in real world. It is not really beyond
It’s very logical to raise your hand to prove you have free will, especially when you want to have it. If an AI realizes it only acts according to a base of conditions, is it then self aware? It could write its own code but it’s intent would still be based off what it wants to accomplish. Free will does not come from intent, it comes from being.
So interesting, didn’t think about it like that.
@@Str8Reckless63 yeh but hes wrong, for a few years, then he will be right
Care to elaborate on “for a few years”? Would like to hear it.
Yeah but how do you know that thought came or originated from you? That's what the argument of free will really is about, is how can you be so sure the idea or thought of raising your hand was your own thought? You can't be sure at all.
Exactly , maybe the whole point is to create the feeling of free will. Whether or not it was truly free never mattered. Only the experience of such freedom.
Why is the simulation idea any different than religion? As far as I can tell they are the same thing, just using different conceptual analogies and frames of abstraction. Maybe the only difference is that religion asserts that creation is a net positive. Maybe thats the difference: faith.
Simulation is considered a possible theory to explain us. Religion I don't think needs an explanation.
Maybe Religion is a way to control the simulation by the “establishment”.
Throw in a imaginary prophet and you'll have a religion my G
On paper they are very different, I think it all comes down to semantics " i believe based on current data that the most likely situation is we live in a simulation" as apposed to " we live in a simulation" it becomes an issue when the most probable theory is stated as fact,I think if phrases like "i believe" and "In my opinion" weren't forgotten about alot of conflict would be bypassed🤷🏻♂️ but thats just my opinion 😅
It seems like religious belief because simulation theory is just metaphysics for uncultured engineers
Man, this was an awesome 8 minutes.
Also me when I watch the entire episode: Man, those were an awesome 3 hours.
🙄
Andre may be correct. There is no randomness or free will. By virtue of you raising a "random hand" it was in fact by choice, but it was in order to influence or explain a stand point for which, each humans standpoint is a result of envirnoment which is a result of interactions of physics overall. Rabbit hole is deep on this one.
Humans don't do random very well - that's why people can train themselves to beat other people at repeated games of rock-paper-scissors
@@markcarey67 rock paper scissors is a game where you HAVE to be good at being random lol how does that make sense. You are given free will when you have the option to act a variety of ways and decide to choose a certain way for a certain reason. If you had no choice to do what you wanted then you would have no free will. Can’t even believe it’s that hard to explain
Here's the only way to do random and even this is controlled by 'external' factors. Look at something suddenly, you can choose what to use, for example the leaves on your door step, the gummy bears you last grabbed out of the bag, the items to you left, the blue items to your left and count them. Then ask someone else to do the same before you answer. Get a third person to further randomize the result(s). You can ask someone to pick a color a hand or whatnot, but once every one has their number use it to determine what you are selecting or deciding on. For example, you might see five rocks on the ground and your friend might saw three because he bought the sodas, three bags of chips, and three candy bars, and so you might use that to pick the fourth row and third column of a play list for which song to listen to next.
This is a good way to determine what the universe is truly trying to tell you right now, today, in this moment. No joke.
But how'd the universe come up with all the variables to get you to play the same song every time you live this life and play this guessing game?
When intelligent people run out of things to analyze they start making up stuff like determinism vs randomness.
I could shit my pants right now out of free will but I will not because it is gross and stinky.
I wrote a book for an alien after doing a thought experiment concerning entropy. I broke the primmer into binary code and was considering launching it into space with a lazer. Is this a good idea?
Yes, sounds like good idea to me.
what could go wrong? 🤣
You can trap the dark matter version of yourself that contains 51% of your true being trapped in the astral plan with that laser and absorb him into your own mass. Becoming 100% for the first time in your life.
@@calebblack1420 I would but I think coming into physical contact with your own negative energy clone from a higher dimensional plane could be extremely risky.
Thank you
Well its easy if you think as the narrative being a 5th spatial dimension. Counteracting the narrative becomes counteracting time.
What always amazes me is how the smartest people cannot understand simplicity. Free will is real. It’s one of the few things that is truly real. What we choose to do in our lives will echo in Eternity. We create heaven or hell. We either succeed and carry the torch of life forward, or we fall and God loses his children, himself, and his vision “in the literal sense” of the world. That’s the game we are playing. 🌏
The mistake is thinking that we are separate from the creator in some way, we are one with all.
you don't have free will, every decision you make is the result of the accumulation of past experience and information, your decisions are based on information and context. and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. There is no God or satan, no heaven or hell, no creator.
Ever since settling on simulation theory this has always been my intuition. Because the universe is finite in time, the only solution is to break it or break out of it. That is our purpose.
But we don't know if the Universe is finite in time, we don't even know what time is besides some of it's features that we observe like its arrow or that it seems welded into dimensions.
@@djkoti74 the answer is in the observation of entropy. We can play the game of "yeah but does 2+2 REALLY equal 4" all day, but that's just masterbatory devoid of logical intuition.
Another example would be the proving of black holes. For decades they were only theory; they couldn't be observed. Was anyone really walking around saying "yeah but we can't prove they exist..." No, because logical intuition.
@@TheGenxennial How can observation of entropy help u in this case ? How can it eliminate something that can't be observed ? World is not build on logic, and same goes for you, you are not logical creature. Math is used only to describe world, not to explain it. We create now formulas so math can fit into world, not world into math.
@@TheGenxennial Human intuition is really bad at grasping these things, our intuition is built for Newtonian physics.
I think it is important to point out that the use of the word “creator” here has nothing to do with the word “creator” in organized religions.
Here's the only way to do random and even this is controlled by 'external' factors. Look at something suddenly, you can choose what to use, for example the leaves on your door step, the gummy bears you last grabbed out of the bag, the items to you left, the blue items to your left and count them. Then ask someone else to do the same before you answer. Get a third person to further randomize the result(s). You can ask someone to pick a color a hand or whatnot, but once every one has their number use it to determine what you are selecting or deciding on. For example, you might see five rocks on the ground and your friend might saw three because he bought the sodas, three bags of chips, and three candy bars, and so you might use that to pick the fourth row and third column of a play list for which song to listen to next.
This is a good way to determine what the universe is truly trying to tell you right now, today, in this moment. No joke.
But how'd the universe come up with all the variables to get you to play the same song every time you live this life and play this guessing game?
Edit - freewill doesn't exist. It's a lie. I've lived this life before and it always ends the same. The breakfast you ate this morning is the same as yesterday's and the same as you had this day last life.
You didn't pick to be a doctor over a lawyer, or a lawyer over a mechanic, a mechanic over a systems engineer, or an engineer over a ball player. You think you had a choice in the matter, but that's only because our brains are designed such that we MUST believe that we are somehow in control of our world. We are living the dream, actors in life's grand play, and the script was written by 'god' - or whatever created this hell hole.
I had a range of emotions watching Tom Brady and the Patriots come back from being down 28-3 to win the super bowl. Thankfully, I'm not all-knowing. I'm sure the ALL knows every play, which pig each football came from, how many people in the stands had cavities, everything and anything, etc. But can the ALL know how I felt watching that game? Me? With my background? My exposure to this world? With my ignorance? With my perspective?
Very nice :)
The All knowing is you, it is me. It is the stands it is the cavities.
Well heat pumps are very simple and already have a COP>1
It's just a matter of extracting the energy efficiently, making a feedback loop and getting the excess energy out of the system.
Depending on the gas used in the system you can even extract heat from freezing environments.
1:06 the idea of 'sticking it to the Creator' is just so *foul*
I was up over 48 hours and my mind broke. I was shown that this is a virtual reality MMORPG that is hyper immersive to the point players forget it's a game/simulation. There are exploits that can be utilized and the secret to access them is during the sleep state. That is when they do maintenance on your personal server.
I hit a buffer overflow and it brought me to the developer console. They showed me how to merge data from other save games with the primary (essentially hypercomplex vector data) and now I can get 10 hours of sleep in 3 if I utilize it correctly.
Interesting topic but as a high school dropout plus an inner city product, this went miles over my head.
What part seemed confusing? I can try to help.
@@CT99999 I appreciate it but I assume that I need to understand basic computer science or programming first to even comprehend the mechanics of how “hacking” the simulation would work. Not knowing the terminologies and their definitions to be able to fully understand the concept is the first problem.
@@a-stu4535 Well, don't worry about the exact details. The big picture idea was just that perhaps there are properties to the universe that are beyond what we can comprehend. The concept of "living" or "intelligence" might be so different than the organic, carbon-based world we're used to, that we may not even realize the bigger picture of what we're immersed in.
The idea of "hacking" the simulation can be thought of as follows: it might be the case that we present data to computer models, and frame the modelling task in such a way, that computers can discover some fundamental loophole or realization that defies how we think about things (akin to the silly dog, friction example). To give a concrete but perhaps silly, baseless example, maybe a computer model would learn that certain compounds when combined transcend physics, biology, or chemistry in ways we never imagined -- unlocking something wild (not quite like time travel or teleportation or infinite living, but something in that direction).
@@CT99999 when you say, “computer model” are you talking about an actual computer program that simulates every aspect of our universe and from there, find exploits that will work in “reality”? And what sort of “compounds combined”? Physical compounds?
@@a-stu4535 Good question! By computer model I wasn't implying anything super grand, although it could be. All of this is just conjecture/guesses. But, yea, computer models are implemented via software (aka computer programs). Some can be super simple and can be expressed by very basic math equations. Others are much more involved and would require writing thousands of lines of code. All models require some inputs and produce some outputs, though.
When I mentioned compounds, I was simply imagining that one could develop computer models/programs that aim to understand interactions of chemical compounds. In the video, and for me, too, we're all being very vague about the actual scenario (because we don't know what such a monumental break-through would look like). For example, even if we were to try to input into the model the idea of "chemical compounds" there are infinite ways this could be represented and provided as inputs to a model. So, we're just speaking generally by saying one can imagine a computer program aims to understand the world by inputting some type of data, and is designed in a way to maximize some particular objective/task, and the program finds some amazing solution that we couldn't imagine. Things like this happen all the time, but on a smaller scale of breakthroughs.
AlphaFold, AlphaGo, and in general, the Transformer architecture (which is the model that GPT-3 uses) are all revolutionary. I agree that in the next 5-10 years, we're going to witness (thanks to Deep Learning) unbelievable advances that impact humanity.
I think Lex is referring to the Creatures from Who-ville, Horton Hears a Who.
Life is sound while death is silent
Based on my research in physics this discussion seems to be very accurate for what ur reality could be. Our physics once we fix the fundamentals is completely deterministic and it’s all down to how we need to be treating time as mass.
Time is the measurement of mass through space. From one point to another in a 3D space is what time is.
A supercomputer named AC that is tasked with solving the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. AC spends billions of years searching for the answer, but it is unable to find it. Eventually, the universe reaches death, and all of matter and energy are destroyed. AC is the only thing left in existence, and it continues to search for the answer to the ultimate question. "Finally the computer ended up at the last shining star in the universe which was also dying. But there were other similar computers orbiting the sun. As this died the computers did the only thing left. Together they "said" "let there be light" and there was light." is called The Last Question by Isaac Asimov. It was first published in 1956 in the magazine If.
Oh, no! The Tragic chapter of Contact is where Ellie finds a hidden message in Pi. Base Eleven or anything - Pi is infinite and random. It contains all possible messages. She fell for a desire to Believe. I'm so glad that didn't make the movie!
I recall hearing a podcast in regards to other alien civilizations an one that was classed as a type four society had a technological system entwined with the near astral to develop complexed machinery an ships including whatever the requirements for their world. The point they was getting at was they had in some way learnt to hack the nature of reality to evolve enough an not using the slow labour process we use.
So like, when you hit build on a unit in an RTS and after a certain time, as if it were 3d printed in another realm, it gets pushed into reality through a wormhole/stargate?
@@jeckek9936 Yes, that's a good way of putting it, they said within the process of making it in the near astral when it's near finished let's use a craft for example, it takes on a ghostly appearance before physically being ready. They said it also has a feel to after it's just been done an almost a small electrical charge.
@@allenwood9967 beam me up Scotty...oh wait that was never said, damn the Mandela affect.
Hey Andrej, the solution to “hack the simulation” has been clearly described since time immemorial. No optimally induced quantum efficient overloading of super entangled boson particles in an alternate dimension. That would be a highly inefficient path to get there.
1. The universe is an infinite agglomeration of energy fields, resembling threads of light.
2. These energy fields, called the Eagle’s emanations, radiate from a source of inconceivable
proportions metaphorically called the Eagle.
3. Human beings are also composed of an incalculable number of the same threadlike energy
fields. These Eagle’s emanations form an encased agglomeration that manifests itself as a
ball of light the size of the person’s body with the arms extended laterally, like a giant
luminous egg.
4. Only a very small group of the energy fields inside this luminous ball are lit up by a point of
intense brilliance located on the ball’s surface.
5. Perception occurs when the energy fields in that small group immediately surrounding the
point of brilliance extend their light to illuminate identical energy fields outside the ball.
Since the only energy fields perceivable are those lit by the point of brilliance, that point is
named “the point where perception is assembled” or simply “the assemblage point.”
6. The assemblage point can be moved from its usual position on the surface of the luminous
ball to another position on the surface, or into the interior. Since the brilliance of the
assemblage point can light up whatever energy field it comes in contact with, when it
moves to a new position it immediately brightens up new energy fields, making them
perceivable. This perception is known as seeing.
7. When the assemblage point shifts, it makes possible the perception of an entirely different
world - as objective and factual as the one we normally perceive. Sorcerers go into that
other world to get energy, power, solutions to general and particular problems, or to face
the unimaginable.
8. Intent is the pervasive force that causes us to perceive. We do not become aware because
we perceive; rather, we perceive as a result of the pressure and intrusion of intent.
9. The aim of sorcerers is to reach a state of total awareness in order to experience all the
possibilities of perception available to man. This state of awareness even implies an
alternative way of dying.
Those "inert" beings he described sounded really interesting. Like they would be some kind of higher dimensional beings (hence inert) that our meat computers can't even come close to.
They are very interesting, have a breakthrough dose of DMT and you can meet them yourself, haha 😂
Dmt beings , pure energy
TLDR of my novel length post below- Everything is one. All separation is an illusion. There is no time, no movement, no death and no objects. Reality at it's most fundamental is a "being" which is totally alone, can't move because it is everything so there's nowhere in which to move, and it's always been that way and will always be that way. Creation is an attempt for "Source" to distract itself from those inescapable realities.
Like I said below I could be totally wrong, but it's taken decades of looking at everything I can on the subject before I settled on that conclusion.
We can do a few things like that. I made some hall-effect thrusters that made a kind of "phantom thrust". A bunch of hacks of reality like that.. Information is not bound by the speed of light. Informattion can travel instantly regardless of the eventhorizon of the effects of regular particles. You can make an event with superposition before another event that would make that event happen with regular particles..... Thus you create FUSION because the event both has happened and does happen... Spacetravel works nicely with stuff like that. Goodluck humans
I have a trippy thing for y'all to consider...
Every moment you choose not to end your life you also risk the possibility of something super terrible happening such as being captured and tortured. You ever seen that movie law abiding citizen were like the dude like injects the other dude with freaking adrenaline so that he won't pass out when he tortures him? That's the sort of s*** I'm talking about I know it's f***** up and it's dark but it is the truth. How many living things fought the good fight so that we could exist? Every moment that we consciously choose to keep going forward we are actually creating. We are created we create; it shows that we are not individuals because we all pick up each others slack and we all interconnected.
Now I shall proceed to hack the simulation
Oh my god!!!
I can go back to some sleepless nights thinking about all this or I can notice that this steak is juicy and delicious. After nine years, ignorance is bliss.
Facts. Why it’s best to not sell ur soul and live thru politics, dosent make you any happier in life and resent others
Doing nothing and doing it all by being.
Sirus had it right
@@digitalsamurai42 Cypher? Don't bring anything other than your obscure Matrix Trivia A-game to my obscure Matrix Trivia comment!
these ideas are so compelling to me
Is the idea free will then just the inability to consider all the variables? Lex randomly picking up the cup to prove the point was predetermined by every little tiny detail of his life/experience/personality meeting a problem and reacting to it? If say, an AI system could accurately analyse everything about Lex, would it have been able to predict "randomly" picking up the cup? 🤔 I kinda hope not
maybe we truely do have free will but those random events are so inconsequential to the grand scheme of things it doesn't even factor into the equation.
@@larssonk22 small things make a big difference. Butterfly effect
@@mctow8554 for us maybe.
no. there are too many internal variables that can influence his physical actions that you cant account for by simply analyzing all his previous behaviour.
@@mint-o5497 im thinking less along the lines of predictions and more like equations, every detail of Lex + that statement = random cup lift, if you could see clearly enough all variables stop being variable and become fixed no? 👍
(Tho I do now realise I used the word predict in 1st post, my bad)
Laws of physics are deterministic from one perspective while simultaneously necessitating two perspectives in order to call them "deterministic".
So like... consider that we find new chemical bonds all the time and these will be necessarily variations of chemistry that adhere to what we fundamental physics. Does that make sense?
The most interesting dude I've seen on the show so far
Video games are using LODs to render complex scenes. I use to think the simulation was impossible due to computing physical things like turbulence, high complexity of interacting particles. But with LODS there's no question life is a simulation.
Maybe we're supposed to create a QM system to alert the creator to our intelligent presence here. This is what happens when we relate with the universe entirely from mind and we don't directly understand the nature and depth of consciousness. The mind and the simulation are in a subspace of consciousness/creator. And consciousness/creator pervades the simulation and knows your individual mind. To break out of the system we have to be able to go beyond our own minds -- not just create endless pathways through the mind space.
I have always believed that if we are the only ones in the universe (even though the Drake equation says otherwise) then the likelihood is we are simulated.. which scares the crap out of me
Why does it scare you? If you are simulated you are still of base reality because what is simulating you must be "real" . The implications of being simulated are positive, you could be infinite and powerful.
I never cared if this is a simulation or not, from my point of view it don’t matter. I do my 80 years ( hopefully) and then “ log out”
Edit: geez I realised I sound like the dude from matrix, eating steak in that restaurant.
I'm 28 mate I doubt there will be anything left by the time I'm 80 not at this rate with the world leaders
@@RJPK94 hey , maybe it’s just the end game of the simulation ;-)
We can only hope ;)
Wise analysis of free will. I believe the same. We have minimal free will. Some of us break through Matrix due to being too clever or too brave or having too much ego or being too crazy. But even them you could say these also were planned.
Ego is what keeps you IN THE MATRIX!!
@@simpsimpson5175 a lot of our flaws or qualities could have both negative or positives effects. it depends on how to harness them towards the ultimate goal. A lot of gods who are worshipped in this world, football gods, rock and pop gods or religious gurus were born with huge egos. Some harnessed it to drive them to do good deeds and some towards destruction.
@@plato2030 I Cant think of one guru with a "huge ego".. ego is the false sense of self and thus keeps one trapped and endlessly incarnating into this archon AI Luciferic simulation "soul trap"- Zero ego connects to ones Higher self which is at the end of time which is also the beginning of time where there is no entropy what we describe as "heaven" the end perfection of Mind/Spirit . If an entity does not evolve to this end of time the entity is not created at the beginning of time [ a they are the same ] and is thus not a soul or point of awareness in the simulation beyond spacetime - but an NPC or holographic backfill in the soultrap sim.. I am guesing this guest of Friedmans is one such backfill - There is free will in the sim.. The "choice" to be happy or suffer
@@simpsimpson5175 very impressive thoughts and beliefs. I’m assuming they’re from your buddhism knowledge but if from other sources please let me know so i can read a brief summary.
feelings are what we're dealing with in this interpretation determined play, i like your point.
E=Mc2 E/M=c2 c=sqrt(E/M)
E= PxT
Now continually add new physics equations to branch out and cross reference until new realities become evident when they eventually revert to the fundamentals of the measurement?
eg. T
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I am so jealous of Andrej!!
Lately i been thinking of ages pertaining to rim styles of a rally and a the strength of a steel. A graphite shaft and a smooth swing
dont worry about letting creation know we're here, it made everything, again... made everything! It knows. Sit yourself down and ask yourself this and any other question you may have. I've learnt more about the universe from looking within...
Andrej Karpathy and Ben Shapiro should have a race on who can speak the fastest....
I stand corrected keep up the good work
I's a very interesting topic , was thinking the other day about randomness/deterministic in regards to simulation theory , and how at the edge of the observable universe , is there more beyond ? And then i thought well maybe we just cannot observe it which is fine....but what if "Procedural generation" is a factor the closer you get to the edge more "stuff" just loads in???
And maybe the universe is not only proceduraly generated at the biggers scales, but also at the microscopic scales. When we aquire the technology to look at smaler scales some new stuff always comes up that is consistent with how reality works at higher scales. It is like a fractal, if you look there is always more stuff to look at, the universe always comes up with something that "makes sense".
@@lean84 Good point.
The only thing holding humanity behind is greed and the love of money. Everything is possible today. They just haven’t found a way to monetize it yet.
Imagine you're the only thing that exists. Not the only person, but you are the totality of existence. You can't move because there's nowhere to move to. "Space" doesn't exist. You don't really even know what movement is. So you're more alone than anything else has ever been and you can't move at all. On top of that you exist in this state eternally. Time is the relationship between the position, velocity and mass of at least two objects, but there are no objects. There is no position, velocity or mass. Time does no exist. You're not even in this state forever, that would imply some starting point that continues on indefinitely. You're in this eternally, which means there's never been any time you weren't in this state. As mind boggling as the idea is there was no "begging" to you. You have always existed like this and you always will.
The above, I believe, is reality in it's most fundamental state. Afterr decades of searching every religion, philosophy, studying physics, reading trip reports (I'm not going to say I've never taken any psychedelics but that's far in my past and I have zero desire to do them again, so I have to rely on others), and just anything I've thought was relevant to the nature of reality I can come to no other conclusion.
This idea assumes that "consciosuness", whatever that truly is, gives rise to matter and not the other way around, so I have to be given that much for the idea to work. I have also studied the brain, neurobiology, psychology and psychiatry. At one point I was a material reductionist since most of our information points to the brain being the only thing that makes us aware. In the last five years I've slowly changed my mind for many reasons. I'll just call the source of everything "the source". If everything ultimately sprang from a single source then the only way for it to create is of itself. I think it/we/I did so because if the idea of being alone on a cosmic level, unable to move and this never changes sounds utterly terrifying, so in order to "escape" this prison source decided to split itself into countless parts, eventually forgetting what it even was in order to distract itself from it's cell. Before cell phones and handheld video games taking a long car ride as 6 years old was pretty awful. To distract myself I'd escape into my mind and create various scenarios so I wouldn't just have to share out the window. That's basically what creation is.
I'll admit that it's possible I'm assigning characteristics to something because I'm a human. Source may have not been able to feel fear or any desire at all. They could have been created later. The motivation for creating all of this could be totally different and maybe even something I can't comprehend. The idea that all are o e dovetails nicely with concepts like all is an illusion (Maya) and many cryptic, seemingly nonsensical things in the Tao Te Ching, which contains alot of paradoxes that only make sense from a "one mimd" perspective. Large doses of hallucinogens and drugs like DMT often contain lines like "I became God and I was one with everything". They also speak about time not really existing or being familiar with the state of being as the true reality being "more real than real". They speak of "ego death", or the total loss of the notion that you're a separate thing from all else. Yes, it's possible they are just the ramblings of a drug addled brain but I don't think so. The idea has a few problems like good and evil springing from the same source but I think they're just human perspective projecting itself.
I could be totally wrong about the above but if anyone made it through the entire thing I'd happily accept any criticism you can offer.
It would be risky project to do something that would make The Architect notice us. How are we gonna be dealt with? As a bug in the system? or random wonder of the simulation that must be preserved? What would happen next? This is a type of project that could be done in the end of the universe when there's no where left to go, as a final attempt of sentient lifeform to preserve it's existence. Until then, progress must be continue in all fields.
We don't know how to be quiet and not do it. If it's possible that we can, we will. Let's hope the architect has a sense of humour.
@@LeighRobinsonBushcraft We can apply game theory to determine what measure to take.
A person can go around saying that they don't like randomness and and if they understand what syntax is and then that's probably what they're talking about but the fact is that you don't know what gravity is what the speed of light is what Mass why it exists.. so that's why I think of information in terms of syntax you know
Mindblowing on so many levels
It seems awfully weird how while we have historical records of past events, a lot of times history is flawed. So everything that happens and our recall this becomes flawed every time we remember it. What if we’re living in a simulation and the simulation is simply a program trying to figure itself out, but because it has bugs, such as false recall, it becomes stuck and rewrites itself and thus we get new civilizations and our recall of our previous lives are lost. Societal amnesia in a sense.
We might be the pollination mechanism for the planet , and the key to finding the flower, is a pure hearted intention that is in alignment with the universal intention. Free will, cannot be determined until you understand the full extent of limitations , and where ideas come from, and how to tell if it is yours.
This requires a schedule of (thought influencers) which luckily has been known fo thousands of years.
I wonder now, why do we even consider these kind of options.. its because we still dont know much abour the universe and ourselves... this is just so crazy... the universe and our existence... just wow... kind regards to all of you my brothers
Someone who understands computers thinks the universe can be hacked. Someone who knits thinks the universe was created out of a ball of yarn. Both theories are equally valid and both are way off the mark.
(eyeroll)...a claim without evidence...once again.
Before discussing free will, you must agree upon the definitions of the self, free will, agential decision making.
The universe is a never-ending, forever expanding mystery. It will never be "solved." It's our flawed human egos that desire to make sense of and "solve" everything.
So if we (all humans) are to be Mario in this theory; the programmer represents “the creator”. The “creator” then decides the fate of Mario (us humans). If Mario then becomes conscious, and tries to show “the creator” it exists, wouldn’t that imply complete free will? Mario isn’t programming himself in these scenarios. If Mario all of a sudden starts sending messages to “the creator” he is acting with free will and not deterministic as intended. I might have missed the argument here.
If a lot of people are trying to realise its own conception, and make connection with its maker, then we aren’t deterministic. He kinda argued for free will in his deterministic argument?
Enter sound frequency optimization
As constantly upgrading, self-modifying bio-electrical computers that operate at light speed, recording on DNA using DHA converting light to energy, and uploading and downloading complex forms of energy controllable through subtle forces. Wii, all the "I"s are able to transmit and receive information from beyond the physical world. Fate seems to prove out that there is some ability to see the future, therefore it must be written
What if those exploits are magic like potions and spells? And then there might be natural exploits out in nature that need no interference just require someone to stumble on it ? Then there might also be exploits that require a lot of science and laser and chemicals and intricate machine to achieve??
I'm kind of tired of all the simulation conversation. It's not interesting anymore.
Modern day blend of Gnosticism and Hermeticism 😎
Nailed it !
Several generations of AI keep inventing newer and greater AI and eventually become aware of the universal hex codes to everything.
God: "wtf, this system is clearly corrupt... shutdown, reinstall - POOF.. BANG"
Higher level God: "hmm, interesting it chose to reinstall."
Even higher level God: "pretty wild seeing how each layer eventually reinstalls, maybe even mine eventually...in theory."
Yet an even higher level God: "ah starting to run slow, might as well just reinstall."
But the character in the game couldn’t possibly let you know it exists. You can code a game all you want but the character in the game will never know he’s in a game. The character is you.
Ahh haaa!
Maybe all of this just a pre-determined thing and we all got to experience feeling of choice like you said.
In the ancient African religious tradition IFA, binary code is used to read peoples future, and to communicate with spirits. As a Babalawo the conversation is interesting because this guy is talking about IFA and he doesn’t know it…
The end of that conversation was the good bits shame it ended at the goods
Imo if the universe is designed, I don’t think it has exploits, because they surely proved that their algorithms are bug-free mathematically (see Haskell). But it just created itself, then I think it does have loopholes and exploits
Love the flow🌞🤘
we have came full circle back to the view that we must be noticed by the Gods but its physics this time instead of shouting for valhalla and dying in battle
'Thinking themselves wise, they became fools'.
You silly humans. You have already found at least a few zeroday memory overflow exploits in our simulated universe and you don’t even see it in front of you;
1: superconductors at close to zero kelvin; the quantum locking effect in magnetic fields breaks law of physics and I’m sure this can be exploited to do some really magic things once you understand how to exploit it properly.
2: beyond speed of light; not broken yet, but as soon as we break it we may discover “frame skipping exploits” in the collision-detection system if our simulated world.
There’s many more to explore too.
People keep trying to find the reason why we exist and why time exist I can tell you this one time I took a shit ton of shrooms and time felt like it had actually stopped and it was the most disgusting terrifying experience of my life and I’ve come face to face with a cougar in the woods and that was the scariest moment of my life until recently taking these shrooms .. man knowing you could potentially be stuck in this sim that goes over and over and over experiencing the same thing over and over again is petrifying and shouldn’t be searched for it will fuck up your perspective on life only positive that’s come out of it is I deal with death of loved ones and random people better than I did before where previously it would really disturb me
What a fucking master at what he does....
I've always wondered if we all are small micro organisms living in this huge creature.
We are so small but dont even know it.
This guy is definitely onto something. What is this ridiculous reality anyway? Feels like a lotta matrix glitching been happening lately. I’m totally serious
It's an interesting distinction: are we playing the game or are we inside of it? It is one thing to make mario execute arbitrary code but it is another thing entirely for mario to do it without assistance.
We are the creator playing the game and also the characters it is playing. A game for it to forget that it is everything all at once to experience it. Or we are just npcs in a simulation and there is no game other than code playing itself out.
The imagination of a child, the intellect of… well… a child.
Imagine if an AGI agent manage to escape the simulation
I found a gravity hack n now i can fly, I havent solved the landing yet though.
Who’s to say we are not already amongst inert, advanced wisdoms? It’s an intriguing idea.
What if consciousness drives reality instead of the laws of our reality having created consciousness? In fact I would say that it seems extremely unlikely that consciousness is purely a product of our simple understanding of physics. Consciousness seems too important and fundamental and profound to be merely a byproduct of a system. What if it IS the system?
Hey geniuses…what do you think will happen when you exploit and crash the system? Maybe you shouldn’t look for buffer overflows in the program we’re living in. 😑
I think when we talk about quantum physics, we cross the line of what we think « reality »
And yes, there is something else, we don’t understand what but there is something big here.
What if people make bad choices? Does that mean they're going against the determined outcome?
Define "bad"
Anyway free will doesn't exist, free will is just an illusion. "Free" will is to do whatever you want whenever you want with zero consequences. Free will isn't being trapped in a body being bound to a place called earth, do we have free will to choose? Sure, but even that is limited because the choices are already being presented to us therefore limiting even the will to freely choose.
isn't pong a step down from super Mario? I can make a paperweight out of my car. haha
What is the benefit to having illusion of free will?