The BATTLE is on! MFT is the BEST. For these 3 reasons - SENSOR SIZE DEBATE (part 1)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- This Sensor Size Debate comes in 2 parts: P1 is about 'choosing MFT' and P2 is about 'choosing Full Frame'. Let's start this 'sensor size debate' shall we? With which do you agree? (People, just enjoy and respect each other in the comments section.)
The P2 video will be published in the near future.
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As one of the old "guys" (LOL) who has been taking photos since 1978 and who is interested in the MFT format, I must say that the biggest draw back that I see in the quality of MFT (and incidentally in the APSC and full frame formats also) is the bit depth. There is a "gritty-ness" (sorry for the neologism) or choppy look to the colors in the MFT images. Color variations do not seem to transition smoothly in the 12 bit rendering. This is very easy to see if we make an extreme comparison between a 12 bit MFT image and Fuji’s “medium” format which is 16 bit. I’m guessing that the smoothness in the medium format images is not because of the pixel size but rather the bit depth. After all, the pixel size in the Fuji GFX 100S-II 101Mp is 3.78 micron versus 3.34 micron in the (Olympus) OM System OM-1-II. The “smoothness” in the color transitions of the 16 bit images are very noticeable. Thanks for your video!
@@Michael-l6u1r thans in you’re case you know what to do ..go for the nee Hassie?
@@KevinvanDiest Still saving...LOL! Thank you for your video.
Great video , but skip the music background, most people are interested in your knowledge not any background music.
@@dynoduff thanks …I guess. Maybe too loud for you? Seen part2 already? Same with that one?
I don’t understand why sensor size is an issue. I’m sure we’ve all wondered what camera was used to achieve a certain image quality. I personally don’t think either is superior, but useful for current scenarios.
I enjoy using m43 for film applications. You definitely won’t have issues with overheating. Plus image stabilization is superior. Dynamic range is a win for modern FF cameras. But the price will double if you’re investing in premium lenses.
I do have the luxury of using both. I find FF extremely useful in poorly lit situations. I use the S5 for unpredictable run and gun scenarios. The BGH1 is just packed with pro level features. It’s my go to for multi-cam setups and extensive film sessions.
@@shaunmaddox dude I can so relate to what you’re saying. Same here, the S5IIX for situation where I can’t control lighting and otherwise my BGH1 and GH6. But you should do a comp between the lowlight/noise between BGH1 and S5, because in my personal test the BGH1 was better! Thanks to true dual iso and 10mp sensor
@@KevinvanDiest you’re so right, the BGH1 is a beast in low light. I actually prefer the image quality of BGH1 over the S5. That’s a good idea. I will do an extensive ISO comparison. I have a few IRIX Primes for the BGH1, but I’m selling them for the Tokina Cinema Zooms. The zooms fit my workflow much better and will possibly remove the need for the S5.
@@shaunmaddox yeah same here ..prefer it too. Not sure about the S5IIx ..have to check that also. Another reason why I prefer MFT is also because of the lenses I currently have. Maybe if I had more FF lenses I would’ve used FF more. Still prefer MFT at the moment. A BHG2 would be my ultimate (with the right upgrades of course)
MFT needs more compact bodies - G85 is/was the sweet spot.
@@NotALot-xm6gz I do agree ..but only because their S series is very compact with bigger sensor. Smaller indeed but with all the same specs!
Mft is at its sweet spot and nearing its limit.
The z6iii brought a 24mp ff with 6k60 internal raw , 4k120 with apsc crop and 9-10ms of rolling shutter for a lot less than the a7s3 offered.
Wont be long until sony drops this on zve2 and have it be 2k or less ( the a7s4 is goibg use the same sensor reportedly )
@@JJARCHIE well. We’ll see… I mean, people are saying MfT is dead for years, yet LUMIX came and chocked the world with both the GH6 and GH7
@@KevinvanDiest
There hasnt been much camera that can do uncropped 4k60 and pull insane bitrates without overheating before z6iii
now they cant really pull much out of it , the density is a downward hill - the one thing they can do like uncropped 4k60, no overheats and raw is now matched with 4k120 soon with no crop.
Their rolling shutter isnt even that good since the z6iii pulls 14ms and the fast sensor advantages dissapear.
Lumix pulls the ibis to ff and achieves what their mft lineup can , once the s5iii gets the z6iii's sensor then its over.
Comparable in ibis and rolling shutter
Larger sensor
1-1,5 stop better in low light
Lets not even note that the a7v is usiang a semi/full stacked 33mp sensor , a 7k60 would be monstrous
@@JJARCHIE yeah LUMIX also has focus on their FF line up which is looking good already. It’s compact (even lenses), comparable I.S. performance, the amount of output options ..very promising
The Z6iii costs 3000€, doesn't have a fan and the GH7 has more dynamic range (Stack sensor is not magical, Less rolling shutter but less dynamic range)
@@sebastienblanchetiere1323 gh7 has 11,2 - a proper entry stacked xh2s has 12.
Oh would you look at that.
sure , The semistack 24 isnt really tuned that great by nikon , but it still does 11+ dr for a sensor double the size, problem is the a7s4 will fix it and match a7s3's 12,4 - and then what. The z6iii doesnt have fan - yes , so they can just throw in a fan if they want , but even without it , it doesnt overheat that much.
The z6iii being a hybrid looms over the mft cinema cams more so than any other ff cams ever. And thats coming from the smallest of the fullframe competitors.
Arent you afraid of what the s5iii will pull ? The eventual 4k120 no crop and matching ibis with no overheat ? The fact that z6iii launches at 2,5k and will go down more ?
You didn't mention rolling shutter wich is more important on full frame sensor
@@sebastienblanchetiere1323 thx for adding. True. Rolling shutter is something that’s less on MFT due to smaller sensor. Another pro for MFT.
Apsc/super 35 is the best in my opinion
@@paperstacksfilms thx for sharing. Left it out of this 2part sereisy
I'm right with you
Sorry, but I definitely think full frame is far superior
@@constantsmile3370 no problem, part2 is about reasons for FF
@McSnappples awesome input, thank you. Totally right. Unfortunately lots of people say MFT isn’t good enough, simply by watching reviews instead of having their own experience with it. Often spoke with people during trainings or workshops about MFT being bad but never used it before! What is it with people? Simply making someone’s opinion as their own? Lots of people aren’t even aware of the fact that lots of films they love to watch aren’t shot on FF.
Indeed, the MFT is more than only IQ. It’s a system and I love it because of that, it’s the workflow that I love, the options with lenses, the wide open shots without to much shallow DOF. Thx for the input. 👌🏼👌🏼😉
@McSnappples exactly man! What is it with people always liking one thing and instantly hating the rest? Both can be good, if only used properly. That’s why I currently used both the FF and MFT. Used aPs-c in the past too. I think people are missing out by this way of thinking, not giving themselves the opportunity to using the potential of other sensors(tools).
@McSnappples so great hearing you, someone who truly experienced MFT and not just one that’s following the hyped reviews. This is also a (bad) trend of current/newer reviewers …talking a lot in extremes, love or hate it style of reviewing, reviewing without even having tested (had hands on it) the camera itself ..all for the views and to join the hype topics.
@McSnappples that's all fine until you consider prices and affordability. If I can spend X usd on gear most likely it will be way more gear if I'll buy only one system. So for most people it's not FF when needed and MFT when needed. It's either this or that. For me the choice is more about the idea behind the system then the actual technical capability. Every modern system is equally capable but not every system has 28mm equivalent prime lens that I want to use. Every modern camera system has 100-400mm equivalent telephoto zoom lens but Sony and Canon options are so huge I'll never consider buying one of them. I can't imagine visiting cliffs oh Moher and opening my backpack to take out the lens which is 1.5kilo and a quarter of a meter in length, sorry Nikon. Big no. Consider reviving your DX line. I only ever owned APS-C and MFT gear because of that. Modern mirrorless FF lenses are getting larger and larger every year I have no idea who is the target audience.
MFT equivalent of Nikon Zf ith 28-400mm f4-8 isn't as good but weight nearly the same
@@NetvoTV not really going into the comp between Nikon and LUMIX now …because that’s quite the obvious.
2 more reasons, I would add:
1. Price: With the OM-1(ii) and G9ii, you actually get a very high end camera for half the price of what you would pay for a full frame equivalent.
2. You can get more tele range out of the box. But you lose in the wide angle. No pro without a con, I guess
@@thomasa.243 yeah good addition, totally right. Keep them coming people!!
great looking video man. just a TAD dark, otherwise great vid!
@@cyborgchimpy thx man… yeah always on the edge. Worked with green screen for this series so that’s always more of a struggle. Next episode will be the same..probably the last green screen I’m gonna use. Simply because it’s a pain in the ***. Seeing you in the next part? 👍🏼
@@KevinvanDiest ya know what, yeah. I subbed. supporting a fellow Dutchy ;) and I'm an MFT fanboy so let's gooo.
@@cyborgchimpy great having you! Another MFT fanboy… let’s enjoy this awesome time where we have such great gear to pick from!
@McSnappples mine or his?
@McSnappples I see perfectly fine lol. I think the video is literally just the tiniest little amount too dark. i'm just being pedantic. the video otherwise really caught and held my attention. the dark atmosphere is generally really cool.
Come on man, it's neither here nor there! 😊❤
Nice😡 I just bought the s5 and now I have to switch to MFT?? lol just joking🤣. Thanks for the vid BTW🙏. Keep them rolling m8💪
@@2004Ches Part2 of this series is coming, reasons for FF. No worries mate, you’re good😉👌🏼
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Lmao
@@rMr.big13 good for you👌🏼
@McSnappples 🤣🤣🤣 now I’m lmao