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Waterless Engine Coolant Revisited - Jay Leno's Garage
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- Waterless Engine Coolant Revisited. Get the lowdown on how this remarkable product can protect your engine.
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Waterless Engine Coolant Revisited - Jay Leno's Garage
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Works fantastic in my yugo never over heats anymore, now I need to figure out why it won't run.
works for me here in sweden, it says it can handle (-40°) on the jug so i put some in a cup outside over night just to be sure, it got to about -37° but no change at all in viscosity... good stuff
Ty has done great things for us in the off road market. We really appreciate him! Keep recommending his brand because we want to support him too. Thanks.
Replaced my 22re block about 3 years ago, wish I had known about this at that time. Thanks for the heads up Jay 👍
Been using it for years. Im really glad Jay told us about this stuff.
I used this product on my Z3 and Porsche 996 2 years ago after watching your first Evans show. It's brilliant and can't believe that no one seems to know about it. Can't say enough good things about it and thank you for sharing.
Did you have overheating problems before using it?
Have always loved Jay. Was so glad to see him continue post Tonight Show with Jay's Garage! Would love to tour it if he ever has a tour setup.
Ya I'm gonna start with my atv's and switch all my vehicles over to Evans coolant. I can't afford to do all at once so I'm gonna do them over time. Thanks jay, great info on a great product.
Jay I love you man. I love how you're a true American and proud of it.
Please more of these because you learn how jay maintains his cars
Always gives good information
I'm running the Powersports version in my 2008 KLR650. I've never had a problem with overheating since. It's fantastic stuff.
Ah yes another video! Keep em coming
What is amazing is none of the comments against this have even touched on the subject of coolant boiling/steaming. If you are running a water based coolant you already are experiencing it due to your cooling system being pressurized. What was stated in the video is correct. Once you hit that cliff and your coolant starts to boil (you dont know it because usually the temperature appears to go down) your screwed unless you can get it cooled off. I'm going to install this in my vehicles.
I'm convinced. My Trans Am's Al heads need this stuff. It sets over the winter for the most part and if you never need to change it the cost to benefit ratio is VERY high. Great stuff! :)
That's nice that you're so committed and that's exactly what the previous management said to me when I was dishing out the money for it. The only thing I have to say is the proof is in the pudding, talk is cheap, and history shows the truth.
Totally agree. But as far as I know ..its not the purpose of Evans. My temp gauge needle is the same place as it was when I ran 50/50. If the needle gets up to "red" you should always stop...no matter what kind of coolant your running. From what I've experienced so far (a year) Evans is awesome.
Thanks Jay great video .
I will consider this product for my '48 Chrysler New Yorker. American made! I got the impression that Jay Leno also tries to Be American, Buy American. Thank you for that, Jay.
Thermally it is an inferior coolant to water or even a water/antifreeze mix. It is a shame that people have been convinced that lack of boiling means the engine is not overheating.
Jay is promoting this for"cars that are ganna sit"
I purchased a liquid cooled racing airplane that ran Evans and I had replaced the Evans with traditional coolant. It was a huge mistake and I switched it back the next season. For those that keep saying you will run hotter,' it's only a couple degrees and does not hurt anything. You're better off keeping an eye on oil temperature than obsessing over this coolant. Put it in and forget about coolant issues.
I'll use this product in my Viper! Thanks.
Did you? If so why and what were the results?
I going right now to purchase a few bottles for my vintage VW!
hmm that sounds pretty damn awesome, will have to look into it and see if i can get it here.
You know if it was anyone else was doing product placement like this I'd think that they'd be getting paid a lot of money and don't really know/care about the product but Jay Leno is different, he wouldn't endorse anything unless it really worked and he used it himself.
Thanks for the clarification. There were some viewers think Aluminum doesn't corrode! I'd like to clarify something. Jay would I be okay running this in my 2001 Miata? Or is that a bit too new?
Interesting product!
ordered my scion frs for early march and i will put this stuff in
gonna try it
This is a great product for off-road applications.
jay is right ,it will protect your rad against rustfromthe inside but not from the outside.I had to replace my rads because it rusted from the outside...and I always use antifreeze .Here in the north pole its gets real cold ..minus 40...also its extremely toxic...so just keep it in the rad and avoid touching ..
So can the Heavy Duty formula be used in a light duty diesel set up???
If I have a bad ground connection, does this stuff turn color like ethylene glycol based coolant in that situation?
How good is it at heat dissipation compared to water aside from the higher boiling point?
love jays web lingo
Gonna try to get that for my Escort.
this is a serious product for the serious car enthusiast. very cool.
no it isnt , it allows an engine to run at higher temperatures , and could result in a damaged engine , if there is a problem with your cooling system , this will find it out
I like your things and I would like to see some day or sometime if you bring costum cars like lowriders and more
Mr Leno
I would urge you to speak to the engineers at any engine manufacturer be it GM Ford catapiller or Cummins and see what they have to say
I'm sure they would advise against using any waterless coolant as they don't have the specific heat capacity to absorb the heat from the engine or be able to reject the heat via the radiator efficiently
Otherwise keep up the good work
hahaha i just love when Jay says "oh my god" 2:03
Amen brother!
when I get my challenger...i think I want to change to this stuff, it's still in the back of my mind.
My buddy converted his SRT4 to this before he wrecked it. We did this because with the upgraded turbo he had it would blow coolant hoses after sitting after driving. The zero coolant pressure was great shame it didn't prevent the rear brakes from locking up
If your radiator is insulated you don't have to worry about electrolysis. And if you have an overheating problem it is ALWAYS caused by some mechanical defect. More "Snake Oil".
Since there is no pressure, I imagine this would be great for older cars. No more blowing up older hoses and 1/2 Plastic radiators and as mentioned Seals.
Wow, I gotta convert all of my cars to this stuff.
Jay...¿what is the heat transfer per volume difference between pure water, 50-50 mix of water-anti-freeze and waterless fluid?.
I am really keen to know. Also, ¿ how cold does it have to be before Waterless fluid freezes?. From Canada. Really keen to know.
I have a leaking heater core in my truck, I'm going to replace it at some point, and before I do that I'll have to drain the cooling system. I think I'm going to use their system flush stuff, and then fill with their coolant. Should prevent anything else from ever corroding and making a leak.
Did you do it?
It's clear the long term component protection is well worth considering this.
Thank you.
It may get that cold further north. North West Territories and that area. Around my area, a really cold winter gives temperatures around the 0 Fahrenheit range. That's extremely cold for this area. Last winter was moderately cold with overnight temps between 10 and 20 degrees Fahrenheit.
I want to try the product, 2002 Holden Commodore v6 but here in Australian I mention Evans Waterless and the negativity is unbelievable.
I flushed my coolant system a few weeks ago. A shop vac does wonders to suck out the water from the block.
Up at 2:00am, its the end of the world, I'm watching Jay Leno's garage: life is good
I.. am SO....buying this...
I have read that Evans coolant consists of 100% glycol....some have argued that the product might allow you to run the engine at a high enough temperature to damage it. I think I will stick with a 50/50 ratio at most. The boiling temperature at that ratio gives a fair amount of protection without boiling.
no such thing, you can buy 100$ gyco, but all coolants even when they say concentrate ,they are not impossible why its illegal to say 100% this or that unless it is,. like distilled water its only distilled water 100%, but all coolants not matter what they are will require water even if its distilled water ,like you said mix 50/50 with distilled water. also if you stick to the Oe spec stuff and inhibitors you will not have any problems, as soon as you deviate form that, that's when you have problems and 1900 build cars had copper and brass radiators and the seals for the pumps etc and other components for the cooling are not as good as the current modern cars and the cooling systems require glycol to remove the heat hot spots around the engine and also prevent overheating as well, based on the % of glyco with in the mix, its that simple?
Looks like great stuff. Since it's so expensive, can I reuse it on those rare occasions when the hoses need to be changed?
YES
If it is different then that's great. Your stuff didn't build up pressure, it "blew up" with so much force that it turned the hoses flat. I kind of remember looking at the bucket after this happened and it said it had a flash-point of 227 degrees and after taring the motor down the head was cracked (first race on that head so it was good before the race). Changing the product is fine but it was your corporate response that I really had the problem with.
Bolt still stuck in the abandoned truck in the woods up north still might start .but won't hold waterpump leaks.
Jay needs to test these in his high performance cars. That way it will help sell the product more.
Jays Hair guy obviously took the day off :)
Yes! (GM owns Dex-Cool.)
this would be great in my Supra which sits 11 months of the year. Cheers.
does not transfer heat as efficiently as water based coolant so you must upgrade the cooling system capacity to make up for this, high flow water pump, larger radiator to make up for this. great idea for a engine that is most;y never used but if your cooling system is already struggling to keep your temperature under control you could be in trouble. to me this would also benefit a iron block with aluminum head but what you never see is a suggestion to add a sacrificial anode for 5 bucks.
Would a sacrificial anode still work in a system that has purple ice as a coolant additive. Or would the purple ice properties inhibit the build up on the anode?
EXACTLY right Jason Cook ... Evans is prime BS ... www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ethylene-glycol-d_146.html
If coolant is boiling away that means you have a problem with your cooling system. So why is Jay shilling for this ... He said only uses it for collector cars for anti corrosion properties ... so he doesn't have to change the coolant. Jay he doesn't use it in his performance cars so how did he end up recommending it for that purpose, one that it is completely inappropriate for?
Rick Bates
They paid him
I was wondering this exact thing to see if it would keep the engine from overheating not just the coolant from overheating.
@@rickbates9232
No, if the engine is overheating, when using Evans, assuming the water pump is fine, you will most likely have other problems causing the overheat.
I was wondering what happens if the cylinder head gasket fails, and the coolant gets into the cylinders. Does the coolant influence the durability?
My brand new GSXR600 would easily see 225F while breaking it in on the street before stripping it down to go endurance roadracing. That was fully stock with fresh factory-filled antifreeze in it. Maybe I don't understand your question.
Water Wetter is an additive, a surfactant. Evans is a complete coolant and doesn't need a surfactant to release the surface tension. The contaminants in your radiator are due to water caused corrosion, electrolysis, cavitation erosion, and additive fallout. None of those issues apply to waterless coolant.
Evans is legit. I have been using their products in all of my daily drivers for some time now. It's one of the 3 fluids that I will swear by, along with my favorite engine and trans/ps fluids. If you want to be more environmentally active in your routine, PRESERVE your car. Plus a proper PG blend > EG.
I want to try my next water pump timing belt thermostat
Jay! Does this stuff expand like regular coolant when warm? Would an overflow bottle even be needed?
Is this good to replace dexcool?
GO America love American stuff !
it's not gonna change how the temp is read in the car. the liquid doesn't evaporate at the same temperature as water. when a liquid becomes a gas, it loses over 90% of it's cooling function, therefore driving the temperature up quick as opposed to this which still transfers heat at liquid rates to temperatures far in excess of water.
JAY LOOKS RIGHT HUNG OVER
Absolutely, you are right. I definitely should listen to a wealthy comedian and not an engineer, nor a chemist when it comes to coolants. I have an old Ford truck with 286K with the original engine that runs like new sitting in my driveway that has had the factory recommended conventional grade oil and glycol antifreeze since it was new!
So you have one truck in the driveway and Leno has a hundred cares worth millions in his garage. I'll stick with him and the chemists at Evans.
@@reggiekenner1527 my comment was 9 years ago. Times have changed….LOL!
Exactly. You're supposed to mix coolant with destilled water. Everyone know this in Europe ;)
It would be nice if you had a link to the other video you suggest we watch.
untill having some cooling issues on my normally reliable volvos, i had never really understood what coolant was for. yes i knew you wanted water to cool, and coolant concentrate to stop freezing and corrosion. never understood the boiling point of coolant. I didnt know that coolant added to the water for the 50:50 is to raise the boiling point, so is the system having a pressure cap to allow the system to pressurise which give a higher boiling point. the real downside of normal coolant is that it boils? once either water or 50:50 mix starts to boil on metal contact, i stops absorbing heat and boils off. waterless coolant will pretty much always stay as liquid now matter how hot the engine goes, and provide as much cooling as it can. normal coolant would boil\expand and blow your cooling system to bit (actually the cap should vent hot water\50:50)
This stuff is just propylene glycol. You can buy some for $22 gal. at e-liquid chemical/flavoring supply shops. I remember decades ago it being tried in stock car racing. They had to reverse the cool flow to hit the heads first. It didn't work out.
+James Sandwitch I think you maybe getting your products confused. Evans MSDS states 70% Ethylene Glycol, 28% Propylene Glycol & 2% Proprietary corrosion inhibitor. By volume it is more standard antifreeze than low toxic antifreeze as you state. Though I don't doubt your cooling woes.
Is this a direct replacement or do i need some special parts to run evans?
Hi Jay, I was just curious as to why you don't cover more commercial vehicles? e.g tractor trailers modern or classic, preferably classic.
it will still overheat it just wont boil how can you say it will prevent overheating by not boiling overheating will happen if the coolant pump fails or if the thermostat fails the engine will get to 180c before it blows the spring loaded radiator cap. when most engines are designed to blow the cap at 120c when this happens you pull over and find the problem this is a warning
All the bickering below misses the points Jay was trying to make. First, if you have a vintage car that doesn't get driven often this coolant may be the best choice for the reasons he stated. Second, if you like to flush and change the coolant in your daiily driver regularly, over the life of the car this coolant could actually save you some money. Simple! I used AMSOIL in my daily driver because it saved me money.
archiguitarchi Amsoil transmission fluid or engine oil? I've heard great things but never used it myself. I'm always looking for a great product. I don't mind paying more for quality.
why you can simply left system running >100C with open system, and water will evaporate in short time ?
Paul, Jay has personal experiences. Age and to many cars to count. He has used the product. You dont have to know ohms law to appreciate a fine sounding speaker. Still I agree with you for your daily driver you should use what is recommended by the manufacture. Years ago I had problems with water pumps and hoses. Now every 2 years or 24k miles I flush and replace the coolant. I have never had a coolant related problem sense. When I sold my 2000 Celica. I had 300k and the original water pump.
lol at Jay's hair.
Hey jay what do you think about the airless tires
hey Jay , what about rotary motors ?? can i use this coolant in a rx7 ???
Yes, I run it in my Corvair. lol
They are probably most beneficial for cars where the water passes over dissimilar metals, such as a cast iron block and an aluminium radiator. With newer aluminium engine blocks the advantage is less pronounced, but still there, because the alloys themselves contain different metals and because of that, corrosion is an inherent problem. I wonder though, if the cooling system does leak, is it environmentally safe?
I want some.
Can i use this with product with my honda accord and ford fusion?
Jay! just wondering if you can tell yer sound guy to crank it up a few notches!? some youtube videos have excellent sounding narration, sumtimes i actually have to turn my volume down, but for sum reason at full volume your vids are ... pretty weak. just sayin ...
Looking into it something doesn't make sense, the normal coolant can boil over at 240 degrees the waterless is 375 degrees if your car is overheating at 240 why would you want it to be able to go up to 375 when heat is bad for the engine?
Because like he says, steam doesn't cool engines. Instead it pools in the upper parts of the engine, preventing coolant from reaching them and creates steam bubbles that can disrupt normal coolant flow to different parts of the engine. Plus boiling means that the gas that gets vented is permanently lost. You want the coolant to stay in the engine.
Martin Poole this stuff is mainly for racing.
Banned in circuit racing in the UK for two reasons, (1) It is flammable with low flash point (2) If spilled on the track it makes the track surface very slippery more so than oil. It basically pure glycol antifreeze although the corrosion inhibitors may differ.
Your car isnt overheating at 240. The water is doing it. Cooling systems are designed to be bigger to keep up lower temp before the water turns into vapor. If all the coolant was waterless , all cooling systems would be much smaller in volume...i guess
go by the temp gauge, if its over heating , stop driving! no matter what the coolant is doing
my car is still aircooled, and im watching this again, lol
Get as much of the water-coolant out of the engine, and then add the EVANS waterless coolant. Drive the car a few miles to circulate the collant throughout the engine. Then drain everything, put all of the fluid into a few large pans, and put it into your oven, and raise the temperature up to around 220°F, a bit above the boiling point of water (212 °F) . When the water has finished boiling out of that water, put the remaining Evans coolant back into the car, run the car for a while, then drain it and boil off all of the water again. Do this 4 or 5 times and you've pretty much removed all of the water from the cooling system.
Damn, what led you to replace the head in the 4.3?
@JayLeno: can you test it in your Cosmos 110?
What about GM Trucks that require dex? Can you use it in these?
Will the high performance work in a Jaguar V-12?