Rubber coating is the worst thing to deal with, I can guarantee you the surface will melt and become a sticky mess within 2 years. I personally don’t buy anything rubber coated, no matter how good it is, If it is rubber coated it’s out of consideration instantly.
Intrestingly the Rubbercoating melting is a effect of specialized bacteria which eats rubber. Never had it for 20 years until i encountered it at a new Workplace. Now i have it at home. Got rid of EVERY infected Device now it is no longer infecting new devices. When you got it, it will eat rubbercoating and you carry it with your hands. Still have it on one Hotas set. everytime i use it i need to thoroughly clean the hands. But it stopped there after a soap cleaning. The Hotas is an 1995 Hotas which started to melt in 2015 and is now stabilized. Carried it over with an rubberized Deus Ex ballpoint pen, killed several other rubberized devices.
Plus, it's a dust magnet. The thing looks totally grotty literally seconds after you take it out of the box. I can't believe Samsung is okay with this.
It is so obvious - the bottleneck / slow speed for this SSD is simply to reduce the overheating and device failures. Anyone can buy the 8TB SSD NVME and enclosure, but because of their high speeds they are insanely overheating, enclosures needs the fan, bigger heatsink and with heavy duty use they all fail sooner or later - it happened 3x to me already with 4 and 8TB drives in constant use on the go. The lifespan (because of the bad cooling) is very questionable for all those DIY drives, they are made to be placed in desktop cases where the cooling is on another level. Simply the constant overheating leads inevitably to some errors. Samsung T5 EVO solution is very smart. Speed bottleneck ensures the low speed = low temperatures over years of usage. It means much lower probability of failing and warranty returns.
I have bought many of the ROCKET NANOS by sabrant and knew those were OVERHEATING beasts that just destroys their claimed read and write speeds. Being a smart man, I bought heat sinks for them, and slapped them on, could easily maintain the claimed speeds for over an hour of heavy duty drive cloning. Transferring files from a 2.5in SSD to these little guys.
That explains the warranty and the throttling. They're basically saying our device under the architectural constraints of being a large pocket SSD is only going to survive for three years without concerns (under normal use). More than that, or for higher uses, then don't expect anything more. Good to know. I'm going to keep mine to a minimum of backups or uses. It's primarily going to be an alternate storage method for data that is too important. I can then just throw it in a secure locker somewhere, and know that when I return to the locker, the data will still be there. It's just another backup to a backup for me basically. Definitely an upgrade from all the pocket USB sticks!
I wish they'd thought of this with my last external Samsung HDD (14TB). unless I turn on an external desk fan and aim it at the enclosure, it goes over 55 degrees within 10 minutes of use!
If you're buying a 600+ euro 8TB SSD. You have the money to have a laptop with USB-C on it. Don`t see the lack of USB-A cable in the box as a problem really. Regardless if the internals aren't NVME etc. Let's be honest, you don't see people buying these types of drives that don't have a single USB-C port on their device, USB-C has been on laptops since 2017. That's 5 years ago.
PLEASE! stop complaining about no type A cable! people buying this type of devices are highly likely to have USB C computer/phone already! Still having USB A cable included is an absolutely waste! the tech world needs to move on!!!
I agree about the lack of adapter. I move from machine to machine and there is no guarantee that every machine I work on will have USB C. As usual, wait for Gen 2 and not be an "early adopter".
Price per TB I do believe you'r better off doing a DYI, there are plenty good SSD cases and (e.g) M.2 SSD's that would be an ideal combination. (like you pointed out and already done some videos about) I do like the T-series from Samsung, have been using a few for quite some years. As for the cables; simply put, if you want to utilise the maximum performance, it does require that cable, any "deviation" with other connectors, and a customer/user may misunderstand why the drive is not providing the posted speeds & performance? (just a wild guess) But it is a bit pricy though. BTW, with their older T's I have, I do get similar speeds? (will need to re-test to be 100% sure)
Considering upgrading to this from the WD_Black 8TB Game Drive for my Series X, but $530 for quiet operation is difficult to justify. Thanks for the review!
Fuckin ridiculous that 8TB aren't normalised in 2023, I understand the faster drivers having a higher premium but a standard SSD at 8TB should be costing a 1/3 of this price. EDIT - Watched the full video, and video content editors aren't the only only ones it's aimed at. The raw speeds are still far quicker than spinning rust. If this was priced correctly it would be a fabulous drive to stick outside a gaming console, and it's more than sufficient to transfer files.
Not sure if there's something wrong with my 8tb ssd, but when i connect it to the ipad or the iphone, i can't open most of the folders, it says "the folder contents could not be displayed because of an unknown error"
@NASCompares Thanks for the great video. Does the low read/write speed mean I can't watch movies properly (in good quality) directly from this drive (even if it's plugged into a 3.2 gen 1) port?
The 8tb Samsung 870 qvo Sata III sells for 350 euro. Putting that in an external enclosure would give you a slightly bulkier option for half the price, wouldn't it?
the QVO is great as a reading drive. But sustained writes is pretty bad. It drops to 172MB/s after using 84GB of cache. The T5 maintains 460 MB/s without any drops the entire transfer. The T5 is better if you’re constantly writing to it
People ought to just get those small USB-C to USB-A adaptors. I agree with Samsung just offering USB-C to USB-C. We need to get off USB-A quicker, instead of dragging it out. Also, Power adaptors need to be more powerful and flexible so less power adaptors have to be packaged with devices. IF corporations care about 'E-Waste' they can deduct the costs of not having a power adaptor to the overall sale of the device.
Great video and review as usual. I really do hope that Samsung watches this review and learns from it. I'm definitely interested in a USB 4 version of this drive and up to a 16TB version, if they want to be overachievers, as long as they take care of business and listen to the points you bring to their attention with this lame 8TB drive version you are reviewing.
Love your videos, Thank you! Trying to find a 4TB drive for my new mac studio m2. The Samsung T7 4TB usb 3.2 Gen2 seems to have double the speed of the T5. Does it have the same bottleneck issues? I am coming from old HHD 7200 drives that have been very reliable with my old Mac. I am concerned about the new SSD drives and the constant heat taking it's toll long term. Thinking the Samsung all in one inclosure and drive may run a little cooler than me putting a drive in a tiny inclosure. Portability is not a consideration. Any thoughts ?Thanx robert
Yeah, anyone who's dealt with that texture long term knows how it's going to end up. Instantly no longer a consideration for me unfortunately because it's basically got an expiry date.
@@esecallum these aren't rubber. They're an alloy plastic hybrid material that is rubbery/tacky in texture. Over time they become sticky, tacky and absorb oil and gunk very easily, they degrade heavily with exposure to heat and it can cause irreversible changes.
Did you install the firmware update and then re-check the Secure Erase feature to see if it was activated in that firmware update. I think as a sneaky info gather tactic, they delayed secure erase feature implementation till it has been firmware updated.
So how would this go if i format it to work on my tv and fill it up with tv shows and movies and use it all the time to watch the tv shows and movies because thats what im doing with the samsung t5 2tb portable ssd and it works fine but not enough storage space
Did you not see him connect directly to his phone and the screen pop up? Then he talked about it and showed the optional software (Samsung Magician) as well.
About that lack of adapter cable... My drawers are filled with a to a, a to c, c to a, c to c cables, dongles, male to female, female to male. I can only assume that a majority of peoply mildly interested in dabbling with hardware have the same experience. Bit of a non-issue, if you ask me.
The slower USB is probably a factor of it being the T5 to be a lower price. If a T7 model comes out then it will likely have a faster interface. However I think this would be sick as an offsite backup that you throw in a safety deposit box for personal use. I might actually pick one up if I see it on sale.
Not sure if there's something wrong with my 8tb ssd, but when i connect it to the ipad or the iphone, i can't open most of the folders, it says "the folder contents could not be displayed because of an unknown error"
Considering there aren't many reviews on this drive it would have been helpful to have done some benchmarks. Like hhow much data tranfer before speeds get saturated and throttled.
I'm sorry but your complaint about a missing type A adaptor is a bit outdated IMO. I haven't got a single device that doesn't have type C and I would imagine that is the same for most people. You are also maybe forgetting that the device needs power to run and if they supported type A they would have to deal with much older type A devices that don't provide enough power for the device to function properly. I'm sure they are cutting down on quite a bit of customer support questions / returns. I think with regard to why they limited the speed of the device my guess is that it is due to heat. They would need to attach a big chunky heatsink which would make it much less portable.
I have more way more Type A than Type C connectors across my devices, pretty subjective to disregard his complaint based on your personal device collection and what you imagine other people have lol
@@igrvks I don't think I made my point clear enough. Moving to Type C guarantees that there will be enough power for the device and Type C is common enough that its not a problem to require Type C IMO
Great job and I undestand what you are saying about the interface speed but the fact is that will not effect 90%+ of users and as someone that could see faster speeds I will still rather the bottlneck so that with prolonged use the drive stays cool and thus lasts longer
one minor point here: I'd be hard pressed to find a system (laptop or desktop) that support a 8 TB external storage and still has USB-A ports. Assuming we can find those rare systems, they will most likely accommodate additional internal drives. So the question is: who is this drive for? An old system that has an internal storage of only 1-2 TB and cannot take is some internal drives? Unlikely, as the controllers are usually limited to 2 TB. Those systems that can take in additional drives? Why waste money for a sluggish external drive when you can put in fast NVMe drives? Backups? Not even close - I would rather have my backups on two different (slow and cheap) drives than on a mammoth one that can fail at any time.
If you can't read SPEEDS and discern the use case based off of those speeds, then that's on you. ESPECIALLY if you claim to be a "PROFESSIONAL" who works with digital media files all the time. If something claims SATA performance levels, then expect it to be ONLY FOR ARCHIVAL purposes. That's user end ignorance, the drive and Samsung are very forward about their speeds.
i am using like for 4 month kingston sxs2000 4 tb today is going broken it cant read any data or when reading in very slowly speed now i ordered this ssd to from amazon i hope i can save my date from kingston.Dont recomended to any one kingston sxs2000 4tb
there is a recent trend going on with iphoneographers and content creators using a magsafe magnet on samsung external ssd drives and attaching them to the back of the latest usb c iphones so they can record raw video directly to them to save on phone storage. if the bottleneck does not affect that this might be a valid use case. but the rubber coating on this and on the t9 can be a dealbreaker because the magnets won’t stick well and it attracts dirt and dust.
the speed limit is stupid and is the reason this will fail to sell unless priced very cheap. I looked at prices of 8tb ssd and sata one with similar speed can be got for £300 odd plus a cheap enclosure, but an nvme you are looking at £800 to £1000 so a bit more money, However 4tb nvme can be around £200 to £300 so 2 of them plus 2 boxes at £100 each ends up around £600 to £800 for 8tb in a much faster format and with redundancy ... I can see this drive ending up on sale soon enough once version 2 comes out, I wonder what drive is in there and if it would be worth shucking it?
Even the T7 warranty is 3 years. Never had an issue. So bit of a nitpick there tbh. I've got like 6 T7s and only used two sets of cables lol so I'm good on that. The rubber will get dusty and sticky so definitely a negative. Wish there was a screen like the Dockcase Pocket M.2 given the price. Sequential read/write speeds are an absolute deal breaker here. What were they thinking? Completely kills the product for me even if I'm focusing on capacity. This is an expensive product for those old protocols. It's slower than the original T7, the T7 Shield AND wayyyyy slower than the T9. Samsung are smoking something. It does look sexy though, not gonna lie xD
Me.... I am THE Market for this size of ext SSD, and yet will never buy this ,because it has ONLY a 3 year warranty at THAT Price. That is Outrageous ! The cable issue ,is a close 2nd of a negative, that its Gen 1 only is another issue at That price !
youre seriously complaining it doesnt come with a type c to a cable? had they done that everyone would be up in arms over it. just about any new device you can get has done away with type a. get used to it
Thanks for this analysis. 👍 What would be your go-to for a reasonably fast, very reliable external 8TB SSD as a daily working drive for photo and video work. It would be an alternative to purchasing the very expensive 8TB internal SSD on a new Mac Studio. My large and growing photo and video library would sit on this drive and be used on a daily basis in Photoshop, Lightroom, and Final Cut. My long term storage is on a large 2-bay HD RAID with a sister 2-bay HD backup. Cheers! Tom
Honestly, regarding the USB-A cable or adapter, i personally do not mind, it not being included. You either already have one of them, from another drive, or you get yourself an adapter for about a buck.
Totally get what you are saying. It just also means that Samsung didn't spend an extra buck in including it. Especially when they included it in the T9 last month. The sort of user looking at 8TB at this physical scale is probably rocking a compact laptop or MacBook, which is low on USB C ports. Shame to waste a good 40Gb/s C port on this old skool USB3 bandwidth drive. Just knit picking I guess...annoying though!
@@nascompares Absolutely agree - inconsistent. I hope starting next year (and with generally more Thunderbolt coming to Windows as well) - more external Thunderbolt drives. Yeah you can absolutely build your own, but some end users do prefer to outright buy ready to go.
Great video, thanks! But ... "why is it not Gen 3.2"? Haha, because thats an EVO ... wait for the PRO which will have 3.2 likely, and a higher pricetag.
I do agree. Write & Read speeds to this drive are ice age tech. At least fort hat money. Just good marketing from Samsung to represent some outdated stuff. I use external drives for gaming on my laptop. I need at least 2000mb/s speed. Also, to transfer big Structural building models I work with. So more is always welcome. Currently, using Crucial drive - not bad. Though I like the 2m drop capability from Samsung and it is appealing to me, low speed is no go. I mean, come on it is 2024 already. to me This disk is like a sports car with moped motor in it.
Time is changing, bro. Do you remember the Diskette, CD, and 64 MB USB disk? Why do you insist on a USB cable? Time is type C now. USB is over. I regret to say I am still using HDD, and I lost all of my documents. Today, I have decided to buy an SSD. Please stop saying USB.
this uses cheap QLC nand. samsung is cutting corners. not very reliable. that's why only the 3 year warranty. they know it wont last long with the QLC nand degradation.
I'd pass.. I'd get two 4 TB 10Gbps or more likely buy two USB4/Thunderbolt 4 enclosures and two 4 TB drives. Not sure I'd want a 8 TB at this point anyways; I'd enjoy redundancy from having two 4 TB drives instead, at a faster rate. or a New NAS for that price.
You can't arrange a single backup solution when you start splitting storage into a few drives. I need a single source of backup to arrange constant/automatic backup
USB-A is dead, and anyone still using it is plain stupid - USB-C is the way to go, and including an USB-A to USB-C adapter would just be keeping old tech artificically alive.
Rubber coating is the worst thing to deal with, I can guarantee you the surface will melt and become a sticky mess within 2 years. I personally don’t buy anything rubber coated, no matter how good it is, If it is rubber coated it’s out of consideration instantly.
Except for tyres.
Intrestingly the Rubbercoating melting is a effect of specialized bacteria which eats rubber. Never had it for 20 years until i encountered it at a new Workplace. Now i have it at home. Got rid of EVERY infected Device now it is no longer infecting new devices. When you got it, it will eat rubbercoating and you carry it with your hands. Still have it on one Hotas set. everytime i use it i need to thoroughly clean the hands. But it stopped there after a soap cleaning. The Hotas is an 1995 Hotas which started to melt in 2015 and is now stabilized. Carried it over with an rubberized Deus Ex ballpoint pen, killed several other rubberized devices.
Never had any sticky problem with any of my LaCie drives... and I have some old portable HDDs from them.
I had a power bank with rubber coating and the surface became sticky. Never again. 😮
Plus, it's a dust magnet. The thing looks totally grotty literally seconds after you take it out of the box. I can't believe Samsung is okay with this.
It is so obvious - the bottleneck / slow speed for this SSD is simply to reduce the overheating and device failures. Anyone can buy the 8TB SSD NVME and enclosure, but because of their high speeds they are insanely overheating, enclosures needs the fan, bigger heatsink and with heavy duty use they all fail sooner or later - it happened 3x to me already with 4 and 8TB drives in constant use on the go. The lifespan (because of the bad cooling) is very questionable for all those DIY drives, they are made to be placed in desktop cases where the cooling is on another level. Simply the constant overheating leads inevitably to some errors. Samsung T5 EVO solution is very smart. Speed bottleneck ensures the low speed = low temperatures over years of usage. It means much lower probability of failing and warranty returns.
I have bought many of the ROCKET NANOS by sabrant and knew those were OVERHEATING beasts that just destroys their claimed read and write speeds. Being a smart man, I bought heat sinks for them, and slapped them on, could easily maintain the claimed speeds for over an hour of heavy duty drive cloning. Transferring files from a 2.5in SSD to these little guys.
That explains the warranty and the throttling. They're basically saying our device under the architectural constraints of being a large pocket SSD is only going to survive for three years without concerns (under normal use). More than that, or for higher uses, then don't expect anything more.
Good to know. I'm going to keep mine to a minimum of backups or uses. It's primarily going to be an alternate storage method for data that is too important. I can then just throw it in a secure locker somewhere, and know that when I return to the locker, the data will still be there. It's just another backup to a backup for me basically. Definitely an upgrade from all the pocket USB sticks!
I wish they'd thought of this with my last external Samsung HDD (14TB).
unless I turn on an external desk fan and aim it at the enclosure, it goes over 55 degrees within 10 minutes of use!
what are the better options?
How do I purchase ORICO montage in the UK? I can’t find anyplace that sells it or any other usb4 drives.
If you're buying a 600+ euro 8TB SSD. You have the money to have a laptop with USB-C on it. Don`t see the lack of USB-A cable in the box as a problem really. Regardless if the internals aren't NVME etc. Let's be honest, you don't see people buying these types of drives that don't have a single USB-C port on their device, USB-C has been on laptops since 2017. That's 5 years ago.
Agreed 😂
PLEASE! stop complaining about no type A cable! people buying this type of devices are highly likely to have USB C computer/phone already! Still having USB A cable included is an absolutely waste! the tech world needs to move on!!!
no you 🤡🤡 , they SHOULD give a fknnn usb A adapter .
have you try write about 7tb? can you test the speed after that, I found a very slow writeting speed an freezing issue after 6.5tb of writeing
I agree about the lack of adapter. I move from machine to machine and there is no guarantee that every machine I work on will have USB C.
As usual, wait for Gen 2 and not be an "early adopter".
"Gen 2" will just not have any cables at all.
Got a c to c but could just stick the adapter that went right over the c came with it on the enclosure it came with.
You can always buy a 1 euro USB-C to USB 3.0 adapter.
Price per TB I do believe you'r better off doing a DYI, there are plenty good SSD cases and (e.g) M.2 SSD's that would be an ideal combination. (like you pointed out and already done some videos about)
I do like the T-series from Samsung, have been using a few for quite some years.
As for the cables; simply put, if you want to utilise the maximum performance, it does require that cable, any "deviation" with other connectors, and a customer/user may misunderstand why the drive is not providing the posted speeds & performance? (just a wild guess)
But it is a bit pricy though.
BTW, with their older T's I have, I do get similar speeds? (will need to re-test to be 100% sure)
Appreciate your review prior to my purchase!👌
Thanks for this great review.
Considering upgrading to this from the WD_Black 8TB Game Drive for my Series X, but $530 for quiet operation is difficult to justify. Thanks for the review!
Fuckin ridiculous that 8TB aren't normalised in 2023, I understand the faster drivers having a higher premium but a standard SSD at 8TB should be costing a 1/3 of this price.
EDIT - Watched the full video, and video content editors aren't the only only ones it's aimed at. The raw speeds are still far quicker than spinning rust. If this was priced correctly it would be a fabulous drive to stick outside a gaming console, and it's more than sufficient to transfer files.
Would be possible to dismantle it and put the internal drive into other brand thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure?
ANY Thoughts on the SAMSUNG 870 QVO 8TB with an external enclosure?! [heard it might fail quite a lot...]
Not sure if there's something wrong with my 8tb ssd, but when i connect it to the ipad or the iphone, i can't open most of the folders, it says "the folder contents could not be displayed because of an unknown error"
@NASCompares Thanks for the great video. Does the low read/write speed mean I can't watch movies properly (in good quality) directly from this drive (even if it's plugged into a 3.2 gen 1) port?
The 8tb Samsung 870 qvo Sata III sells for 350 euro. Putting that in an external enclosure would give you a slightly bulkier option for half the price, wouldn't it?
Is this Better than the 870 qvo I’m looking for an 8tb external ssd specifically for ps4 games on ps5
the QVO is great as a reading drive. But sustained writes is pretty bad. It drops to 172MB/s after using 84GB of cache. The T5 maintains 460 MB/s without any drops the entire transfer. The T5 is better if you’re constantly writing to it
@@soapa4279 T5 doesn't have 8TB storage. I wonder about the QVO as I see people say it fails a lot, which makes it not reliable
People ought to just get those small USB-C to USB-A adaptors.
I agree with Samsung just offering USB-C to USB-C. We need to get off USB-A quicker, instead of dragging it out.
Also, Power adaptors need to be more powerful and flexible so less power adaptors have to be packaged with devices.
IF corporations care about 'E-Waste' they can deduct the costs of not having a power adaptor to the overall sale of the device.
Great review! What TBW is the NVME SSD inside rated for?
Samsung doesn’t say since it’s a QLC drive. Only 3 year warranty also.
QLC 1000 cycles would be 8 PBW .
=7.3 TBW day for (3 years)
My guess is they stuck to the old usb c gen 1 to allow compatibility with their android devices which maintain low power usb output.
just got this one ans filled it up to 7to and now the reading speed is 40mb/s ?
Great video and review as usual.
I really do hope that Samsung watches this review and learns from it. I'm definitely interested in a USB 4 version of this drive and up to a 16TB version, if they want to be overachievers, as long as they take care of business and listen to the points you bring to their attention with this lame 8TB drive version you are reviewing.
Love your videos, Thank you! Trying to find a 4TB drive for my new mac studio m2. The Samsung T7 4TB usb 3.2 Gen2 seems to have double the speed of the T5. Does it have the same bottleneck issues? I am coming from old HHD 7200 drives that have been very reliable with my old Mac. I am concerned about the new SSD drives and the constant heat taking it's toll long term. Thinking the Samsung all in one inclosure and drive may run a little cooler than me putting a drive in a tiny inclosure. Portability is not a consideration. Any thoughts ?Thanx robert
T5 500MB/s
T7 1000 MB/s
T9 2000 MB/s
Yeah, anyone who's dealt with that texture long term knows how it's going to end up.
Instantly no longer a consideration for me unfortunately because it's basically got an expiry date.
nonsense. rubber lasts forever. i have a usb RUBBER ENCLOSED power bank from 2005. its fine.
@@esecallum these aren't rubber.
They're an alloy plastic hybrid material that is rubbery/tacky in texture.
Over time they become sticky, tacky and absorb oil and gunk very easily, they degrade heavily with exposure to heat and it can cause irreversible changes.
@@wafu6058 That IS the material around the powerbank fine after 15 years
you forgot to dismantle it and show us what is inside :)))
Is it compatible with samsung a/m series phone???
For gamers out there, how long does it take to boot up?
Did you install the firmware update and then re-check the Secure Erase feature to see if it was activated in that firmware update. I think as a sneaky info gather tactic, they delayed secure erase feature implementation till it has been firmware updated.
So how would this go if i format it to work on my tv and fill it up with tv shows and movies and use it all the time to watch the tv shows and movies because thats what im doing with the samsung t5 2tb portable ssd and it works fine but not enough storage space
Does it transfer automatically from Samsung S23 to the device once you hook them up?? Or does one need some sort of software..????
Did you not see him connect directly to his phone and the screen pop up? Then he talked about it and showed the optional software (Samsung Magician) as well.
About that lack of adapter cable... My drawers are filled with a to a, a to c, c to a, c to c cables, dongles, male to female, female to male. I can only assume that a majority of peoply mildly interested in dabbling with hardware have the same experience. Bit of a non-issue, if you ask me.
Is this a striped drive?
Is this the best 8tb external ssd for ps4 games specifically on a ps5 (I already have an m.2 for ps5 games)
The slower USB is probably a factor of it being the T5 to be a lower price. If a T7 model comes out then it will likely have a faster interface. However I think this would be sick as an offsite backup that you throw in a safety deposit box for personal use. I might actually pick one up if I see it on sale.
i would like to know if the phone is able to connect to read and write on this 8tb ssd
Not sure if there's something wrong with my 8tb ssd, but when i connect it to the ipad or the iphone, i can't open most of the folders, it says "the folder contents could not be displayed because of an unknown error"
Probably works better on Samsung galaxy S series...
But I never tried
Can you list the alternative external ssd with the housing? Good review, appreciate it.
It's the ORICO US4 drive casing and pre populated drive series
@@nascompares Ridiculously good chassis!
@@nascomparesis this ssd the best external ssd for ps4 games on ps5
@@ajrfilm0110 Orico tends to have bad reviews, i'd maybe steer clear
Considering there aren't many reviews on this drive it would have been helpful to have done some benchmarks. Like hhow much data tranfer before speeds get saturated and throttled.
Can it be used for Samsung S23 phone???
Yes
I'm a photographer and the bottleneck isn't a problem. I actually like SSDs for the drop resistance and convenience.
I'm sorry but your complaint about a missing type A adaptor is a bit outdated IMO. I haven't got a single device that doesn't have type C and I would imagine that is the same for most people. You are also maybe forgetting that the device needs power to run and if they supported type A they would have to deal with much older type A devices that don't provide enough power for the device to function properly. I'm sure they are cutting down on quite a bit of customer support questions / returns.
I think with regard to why they limited the speed of the device my guess is that it is due to heat. They would need to attach a big chunky heatsink which would make it much less portable.
I have more way more Type A than Type C connectors across my devices, pretty subjective to disregard his complaint based on your personal device collection and what you imagine other people have lol
@@igrvks I don't think I made my point clear enough. Moving to Type C guarantees that there will be enough power for the device and Type C is common enough that its not a problem to require Type C IMO
Great job and I undestand what you are saying about the interface speed but the fact is that will not effect 90%+ of users and as someone that could see faster speeds I will still rather the bottlneck so that with prolonged use the drive stays cool and thus lasts longer
Plug it into a USB 2.0 port. It’ll stay super cool always 😊
This drive is QLC, SATA3. Buy a 8TB WD SN850X pice 4.0 nvme for $599 and a thunderbolt enclosure and be happy.
Tips
Always put TBW info on the specs
I'm more capacity hungry with storage,
The BIGGER in a smaller portable package the better for me...with respect to sane prices.
The fact that it still costs $500 usd 11 months later and it’s not gen 2 is a huge deal breaker for me…
Crazy. In Germany, it's 200€
Edit: 200€ for 4TB, my bad
@@henanigans205 That's the 4Tb version.
@@jonnynice8366 you're right
one minor point here: I'd be hard pressed to find a system (laptop or desktop) that support a 8 TB external storage and still has USB-A ports. Assuming we can find those rare systems, they will most likely accommodate additional internal drives. So the question is: who is this drive for? An old system that has an internal storage of only 1-2 TB and cannot take is some internal drives? Unlikely, as the controllers are usually limited to 2 TB. Those systems that can take in additional drives? Why waste money for a sluggish external drive when you can put in fast NVMe drives?
Backups? Not even close - I would rather have my backups on two different (slow and cheap) drives than on a mammoth one that can fail at any time.
Is it using QLC?
EVO is normally TLC. QVO is Samsung's QLC brand.
Are there any evidence or documents released by SAMSUNG to prove this T5 evo using TLC or QLC?@@mondotv4216
If you can't read SPEEDS and discern the use case based off of those speeds, then that's on you. ESPECIALLY if you claim to be a "PROFESSIONAL" who works with digital media files all the time. If something claims SATA performance levels, then expect it to be ONLY FOR ARCHIVAL purposes. That's user end ignorance, the drive and Samsung are very forward about their speeds.
i am using like for 4 month kingston sxs2000 4 tb today is going broken it cant read any data or when reading in very slowly speed now i ordered this ssd to from amazon i hope i can save my date from kingston.Dont recomended to any one kingston sxs2000 4tb
there is a recent trend going on with iphoneographers and content creators using a magsafe magnet on samsung external ssd drives and attaching them to the back of the latest usb c iphones so they can record raw video directly to them to save on phone storage. if the bottleneck does not affect that this might be a valid use case. but the rubber coating on this and on the t9 can be a dealbreaker because the magnets won’t stick well and it attracts dirt and dust.
it does not, no matter of the recording quality , even 4k, you won't even get close the the maximum capability of the drive. So for that it is good.
the speed limit is stupid and is the reason this will fail to sell unless priced very cheap.
I looked at prices of 8tb ssd and sata one with similar speed can be got for £300 odd plus a cheap enclosure, but an nvme you are looking at £800 to £1000 so a bit more money,
However 4tb nvme can be around £200 to £300 so 2 of them plus 2 boxes at £100 each ends up around £600 to £800 for 8tb in a much faster format and with redundancy ...
I can see this drive ending up on sale soon enough once version 2 comes out,
I wonder what drive is in there and if it would be worth shucking it?
It would be all one board with the USB interface.
It'll do well for a Playstation external drive - albeit at a cheaper price.
Am I stupid for liking the fact that it's slow so that I know that it won't ever catch on fire?
They have no competition at that size. The 8tb is what sells it, otherwise their 2 and 4tb is almost a waste might as well go t9
Even the T7 warranty is 3 years. Never had an issue. So bit of a nitpick there tbh. I've got like 6 T7s and only used two sets of cables lol so I'm good on that. The rubber will get dusty and sticky so definitely a negative. Wish there was a screen like the Dockcase Pocket M.2 given the price.
Sequential read/write speeds are an absolute deal breaker here. What were they thinking? Completely kills the product for me even if I'm focusing on capacity. This is an expensive product for those old protocols. It's slower than the original T7, the T7 Shield AND wayyyyy slower than the T9. Samsung are smoking something.
It does look sexy though, not gonna lie xD
Wtf? 650 bucks for usb 2 speeds is insane 😱😂. Doesn't matter the size.
out of 8tb there's 7.27 tb usable damn, 7.7 would be ok but .27 no way
Me.... I am THE Market for this size of ext SSD, and yet will never buy this ,because it has ONLY a 3 year warranty at THAT Price. That is Outrageous ! The cable issue ,is a close 2nd of a negative, that its Gen 1 only is another issue at That price !
youre seriously complaining it doesnt come with a type c to a cable? had they done that everyone would be up in arms over it. just about any new device you can get has done away with type a. get used to it
Thanks for this analysis. 👍
What would be your go-to for a reasonably fast, very reliable external 8TB SSD as a daily working drive for photo and video work.
It would be an alternative to purchasing the very expensive 8TB internal SSD on a new Mac Studio.
My large and growing photo and video library would sit on this drive and be used on a daily basis in Photoshop, Lightroom, and Final Cut.
My long term storage is on a large 2-bay HD RAID with a sister 2-bay HD backup.
Cheers!
Tom
I do wish someone did a disassembly though
Old USB 3.1 with 460 MB/s in 2023... Samsung, are you crazy????
Imagine 8tb can read only by the phone? Power yeah?
Notice the EVO in the title... a PRO is coming im sure.
I feel like nowadays, a USB-A adapter is a non-issue. Most people are rocking usb-c 🤷🏻♂
Honestly, regarding the USB-A cable or adapter, i personally do not mind, it not being included.
You either already have one of them, from another drive, or you get yourself an adapter for about a buck.
Totally get what you are saying. It just also means that Samsung didn't spend an extra buck in including it. Especially when they included it in the T9 last month. The sort of user looking at 8TB at this physical scale is probably rocking a compact laptop or MacBook, which is low on USB C ports. Shame to waste a good 40Gb/s C port on this old skool USB3 bandwidth drive. Just knit picking I guess...annoying though!
@@nascompares Absolutely agree - inconsistent.
I hope starting next year (and with generally more Thunderbolt coming to Windows as well) - more external Thunderbolt drives.
Yeah you can absolutely build your own, but some end users do prefer to outright buy ready to go.
Love samsung, but, umm, this is worth 1/3 the price. So, umm, ah........hard pass.
50MB/s? in 2024?
No.
to transfer 2TB it would take days.
You have to consider it would slow down due to heat.
NO.
I guess most people have a type c to A cable around the house.
i think such a cable comes with every phone.
Great video, thanks! But ... "why is it not Gen 3.2"? Haha, because thats an EVO ... wait for the PRO which will have 3.2 likely, and a higher pricetag.
Would like a 16 tb model would I be able to afford it no but it would be nice
Guess on 3 year warranty is because EVO ?
I do agree. Write & Read speeds to this drive are ice age tech. At least fort hat money. Just good marketing from Samsung to represent some outdated stuff. I use external drives for gaming on my laptop. I need at least 2000mb/s speed. Also, to transfer big Structural building models I work with. So more is always welcome. Currently, using Crucial drive - not bad. Though I like the 2m drop capability from Samsung and it is appealing to me, low speed is no go. I mean, come on it is 2024 already. to me This disk is like a sports car with moped motor in it.
T5 500 MB/s
T7 1000 MB/s
T9 2000 MB/s
8tb is lot of data. I'll wait for sales, deals or new improvement.
Indeed.
Mvme enclosure (10 gbs) with cheap nvme will be faster.
Time is changing, bro. Do you remember the Diskette, CD, and 64 MB USB disk? Why do you insist on a USB cable? Time is type C now. USB is over. I regret to say I am still using HDD, and I lost all of my documents. Today, I have decided to buy an SSD. Please stop saying USB.
Umm usb type C is the port interface HDD vs SDD is the data bank type … hdd is a spinning diskette va SDD is a solid state like a computer chip 😂
659 EURs for USB3 gen 1 ? just buy an external thunderbolt enclosure and put a proper NVME SSD inside.
I don't care about the speed of the drive whether it's 0.5 GB/s or 3 GB/s. I just want storage lol, rest is bullshit and this drive is very very good
I remember 8TB Sabrent ssds exists
Very true! I think I sat as much when discussing enclosures
Shite transfer rate
Nice size but sounds like crap outdated over price like a lot of things Samsung does
not even usb4 for that price
this uses cheap QLC nand. samsung is cutting corners. not very reliable. that's why only the 3 year warranty. they know it wont last long with the QLC nand degradation.
I'd pass.. I'd get two 4 TB 10Gbps or more likely buy two USB4/Thunderbolt 4 enclosures and two 4 TB drives. Not sure I'd want a 8 TB at this point anyways; I'd enjoy redundancy from having two 4 TB drives instead, at a faster rate.
or a New NAS for that price.
You can't arrange a single backup solution when you start splitting storage into a few drives.
I need a single source of backup to arrange constant/automatic backup
Why not look inside? Boooooohhhh! BOOOHHHHH!!!!
TB is pronounced Terabyte. "Tee Bee" means Tuberculosis.
"Not everyone is using USB c at the moment"... wait what?! It's 2024! Even Apple is using type c for crying out loud!!! That should give you a hint!
You are right, I should upgrade my computers to reduce e waste.
Hey man, would you donate a 4x NAS, if you have one laying around? i would pay for shipping
sorry to say this review is useless. no performance tests, temperature measurements and dissembling.
4 minutes in and I already hate it. LOL Very disappointing. Tsk tsk, Samsung.
extremely slow.
I hate the rubberised finish. That's a deal-breaker.
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USB-A is dead, and anyone still using it is plain stupid - USB-C is the way to go, and including an USB-A to USB-C adapter would just be keeping old tech artificically alive.
You are literally saying the whole world is stupid.
Why are you crying like a little girl about the cable?
Well..aren't you a delight!
Any ssd whit wifi transfer files so no need bang usb to connect on the go ?