⚡Do you think this truck is worth the $69,000 I paid? Do you think Ram was wrong to discontinue the ecodiesel engine? ⚡Gladiator Review: th-cam.com/video/fMOtcX1oXxo/w-d-xo.html
I owned a 2021 Laramie ecodiesel and it was the best truck I’ve owned. I traded it in due to expanding family after 71000 miles. I thought maintenance was cheap. DEF every 4k miles I think, oil changes were like $65 or so. I did not think it was expensive maintenance. I also paid $65k for it in 2021.
Sad to see you let it go, the Gladiator, I am actually getting one for a flat tow ( 40' - 2008 Monaco MH, 400hp Cummins 1,200ft). Your honest review (Gladiator) and especially about the motor and suspension is spot on.*Now the truck you got is a no no (RAM), You really messed up here.I have a GMC Denali 2500 full size and I will never go to 1500 regardless if it is Ford, GM, or Ram. ( Yes I do also Have a 13' - F-250 LAramie, 04' - 3500 Silverado chevrolet.) Both have been great. Now the 2500's, The power is actually there and once you get used to 16/mpg... yeah you really don't really care for the mpg for the easy moving around or tow, regardless a bumper pull or a gooseneck or 5th wheel. And yes you over paid for this RAM. For another $20, - $80 on the GMC 2500 would just leave this RAM in the dust.
Thank you for the video and it was informative. If you have to do it again, would you get one with the 5.7 Hemi eTorque engine? Nowdays, you can get one with decent options for $50K+.
My first house was $138k in 2008 I think. Can't bring myself to pay more than $40k for a truck. Thanks for the honest review and some good points about the diesel not really being worth it if you're not towing every day
Put 100k miles on it and get back to us, absolute time bomb of an engine. Fuel parts? Not available, DPF parts? Not available. Intake fault code? Completely carboned off and jammed closed, or open. Part? Not available... Fully serviced by dealer and at 130k the crank bearings are gone due to the high grit soot in the oil.... the day it was stolen I cried with happiness . Id rather listen to a Hemi tick and enjoy the 15mpg.
I owned a 2014 Ecodiesel for 6 years and a total of 237k. Now 1 tip i can give anyone that do there own filter changes. Wix filters. Fuel and oil. I did a number of services on my truck. Average was 3 to 4 times a year. And Def lasted an oil change cycle. Also if its available in your area. Get Def from the pump. But yes fuel mileage was the best. Now mine had the smaller 26 gal tank. But still Average 480 miles a tank. But the biggest thing i can stress. When going to Diesel be prepared for expenses. And some of your comlants are based on sorry. Poor timing, not researching. All but adaptive cruise and frint camera was avaliable. Even in My 2014. And the bigger tank will limit def capacity. And GM 3.0 has a twin scroll turbo and VGT. Ecodiesel has just a VGT and also has a program to limit pedal responce. And remember, Apple to Apple. For the price and features RAM is the most inexpensive and usually has better warranty.
I have a 2021 Laramie 1500 with the diesel. I bought it in Fall of 2020 before dealers started up charging so actually bought it below sticker. I had a Gen 2 diesel and had too many recall issues with it. This Gen 3 diesel has been trouble free and a more efficient and enjoyable engine to drive. We tow a 4000 lb travel trailer about 1/3rd of the time. It is comfortable, handles well and gets decent fuel mileage while towing. Payback only comes into play after about 60k miles. If you are flipping vehicles every couple years, buy the hemi. I plan on keeping mine a long time
Just bought a brand new loaded '24 V8 level 2 for 52K. 28% off MSRP. Original price 72K. Sounds like most of your issues stem from opting for the diesel. The hemi truck has no problem with acceleration or reliability or maintenance.
I have driven the Laramie and Rebel back to back, and the steering of the Rebel seems less precise through the corners and at speed compared to the Laramie. I prefer the Rebel, but I would like to see it riding on a more street-oriented tire. That being said, I own a Laramie, and it needs tires, and I'd like something bigger and meatier on it.
Thanks Ian. What’s the payload rating on the sticker? Any issues getting close to maxing that when pulling your trailers with family and gear? That’s what is pushing us towards a 2500 HD with a 8000lb TT and family of 5.
Bought 2yr old, 20k mile, Rebel with the HEMI fully optioned w/ 4-corner air ride for 48k. Not towing can average 18-19 highway with .392 rear end. Oil change with air filter about $100. No def to deal with and cheaper fuel. To your point $70k is outrageous for a full size truck, so I opt for a lightly used option to save 30% off msrp. Won’t buy brand new ever again because depreciation is unreal.
I just bought a fully loaded 2024 V8 Rebel brand new for 52K. Got 28% off MSRP, brand new, 2 weeks ago. Level 2 with convenience, tow package, + couple of other things.
Hey Ian i have driven a ram 1500 and had f 150, ridgeline and the ram is the best ride of them all. Yes electric systems are not that good like u noticed. If i get a truck again it will be a ram. Btw i am like u not a big fan of the dial shift.....
That's what turned me off was the extra maintenance, DEF and diesel also going up here in Canada. That and I hate the smell of diesel. F150s not selling here, car lots are full of them, maybe time for a good deal on one, but I do like the Ram styling better 👍
When I bought the TRX, I had them take everything off. I actually called the owner of the dealership first and then he called down and told them to take all the markup crap off
I bought it in February of 21 for MSRP and sold it just over a year later in April of 2022 during the super car shortage for $46k more than I paid for it.
There is only one American automotive brand that has a place in my heart - Ford... the only one which sells relatively well in Europe. Go ahead Mopar and GM boys. Toast me 😁
Wow! DEF every 1-2k miles? That doesn't seem right. My 2017 Eco Diesel needs DEF every 8-10k. Not sure if that is a byproduct of the redesign between the two, but that is excessive for sure!
Interesting info, life is messy, don’t be anxious . So, $70,000. is too much, I would buy a good used truck before paying that price . Yes, Chevrolet is a good truck and that is why their so popular, buy what you really need, not what you want, frugal is good ! Thanks
@@BigRockOutdoors1I blame the automakers. The markups are because dealers get very few of these vehicles, even though demand is high, so they have to try and make their money when they can. Auto makers either need to produce more of them to meet demand, or raise the prices.
⚡Do you think this truck is worth the $69,000 I paid? Do you think Ram was wrong to discontinue the ecodiesel engine?
⚡Gladiator Review: th-cam.com/video/fMOtcX1oXxo/w-d-xo.html
Sad to hear/see that you got rid of the gladiator your reviews was why I looked for one and got one. 😢
I owned a 2021 Laramie ecodiesel and it was the best truck I’ve owned. I traded it in due to expanding family after 71000 miles. I thought maintenance was cheap. DEF every 4k miles I think, oil changes were like $65 or so. I did not think it was expensive maintenance. I also paid $65k for it in 2021.
No way it's worth $69K .
Sad to see you let it go, the Gladiator, I am actually getting one for a flat tow ( 40' - 2008 Monaco MH, 400hp Cummins 1,200ft). Your honest review (Gladiator) and especially about the motor and suspension is spot on.*Now the truck you got is a no no (RAM), You really messed up here.I have a GMC Denali 2500 full size and I will never go to 1500 regardless if it is Ford, GM, or Ram. ( Yes I do also Have a 13' - F-250 LAramie, 04' - 3500 Silverado chevrolet.) Both have been great.
Now the 2500's, The power is actually there and once you get used to 16/mpg... yeah you really don't really care for the mpg for the easy moving around or tow, regardless a bumper pull or a gooseneck or 5th wheel. And yes you over paid for this RAM. For another $20, - $80 on the GMC 2500 would just leave this RAM in the dust.
Thank you for the video and it was informative. If you have to do it again, would you get one with the 5.7 Hemi eTorque engine? Nowdays, you can get one with decent options for $50K+.
My first house was $138k in 2008 I think. Can't bring myself to pay more than $40k for a truck. Thanks for the honest review and some good points about the diesel not really being worth it if you're not towing every day
my first house was 115k in 2009
Mine was $186k in 2015 but the days of $40k for a truck are long gone. I don't think you can get even a base work truck for $40k anymore.
how much was your car in 2008 and how much is it (same car new) now ?
I bought a TRX in 21 and only drove it 300 miles. I sold it 47 days later for $42k more than I paid for it. But those days are over now.
No u didn’t
@@Wilderbliss17 huh? Yes I did.
@@DeepDishPizza nope
I just bought a 2023 last week and the dealer knocked if 20,000 with the hemi. The trucks awesome. Leftover is the way to go.
I get a new one every year, hands down best value is the titan pro 4x.
That was the most honest review I watched thank you and God bless you
Great review Ian! Do u miss your Gladiator? You had that thing setup just like i would! So cool looking too!
YES
Put 100k miles on it and get back to us, absolute time bomb of an engine. Fuel parts? Not available, DPF parts? Not available. Intake fault code? Completely carboned off and jammed closed, or open. Part? Not available... Fully serviced by dealer and at 130k the crank bearings are gone due to the high grit soot in the oil.... the day it was stolen I cried with happiness . Id rather listen to a Hemi tick and enjoy the 15mpg.
I owned a 2014 Ecodiesel for 6 years and a total of 237k. Now 1 tip i can give anyone that do there own filter changes. Wix filters. Fuel and oil. I did a number of services on my truck. Average was 3 to 4 times a year. And Def lasted an oil change cycle. Also if its available in your area. Get Def from the pump. But yes fuel mileage was the best. Now mine had the smaller 26 gal tank. But still Average 480 miles a tank. But the biggest thing i can stress. When going to Diesel be prepared for expenses. And some of your comlants are based on sorry. Poor timing, not researching. All but adaptive cruise and frint camera was avaliable. Even in My 2014. And the bigger tank will limit def capacity. And GM 3.0 has a twin scroll turbo and VGT. Ecodiesel has just a VGT and also has a program to limit pedal responce. And remember, Apple to Apple. For the price and features RAM is the most inexpensive and usually has better warranty.
Great review, I have the same truck, 2020 with the gas Hemi option… 😎👍🏼
Good choice!
I have a 2021 Laramie 1500 with the diesel. I bought it in Fall of 2020 before dealers started up charging so actually bought it below sticker. I had a Gen 2 diesel and had too many recall issues with it. This Gen 3 diesel has been trouble free and a more efficient and enjoyable engine to drive. We tow a 4000 lb travel trailer about 1/3rd of the time. It is comfortable, handles well and gets decent fuel mileage while towing. Payback only comes into play after about 60k miles. If you are flipping vehicles every couple years, buy the hemi. I plan on keeping mine a long time
Awesome, thanks for sharing
Just bought a brand new loaded '24 V8 level 2 for 52K. 28% off MSRP. Original price 72K. Sounds like most of your issues stem from opting for the diesel. The hemi truck has no problem with acceleration or reliability or maintenance.
You should do a video on best diesel engines for full-size trucks, 3/4 trucks!
Bought a 20 rebel in 21 for $65k with the 5.7. Replaced the engine at 50k miles. The truck itself is very nice. Mechanically not so much
Were you drag racing it or something? My 22 rebel has 61k miles and no issues
I have the same truck in gas. I love it. Love your wheel/life combo, but not sure I could get in my garage after
I have about one inch of clearance in my garage...
@@BigRockOutdoors1 I have a canopy camper that takes up some height
The lift and tires kill the power on this truck. Oil and filter are not nearly as expensive as claimed in this video.
how can you get it cheaper with the factory approved parts?
I have driven the Laramie and Rebel back to back, and the steering of the Rebel seems less precise through the corners and at speed compared to the Laramie. I prefer the Rebel, but I would like to see it riding on a more street-oriented tire. That being said, I own a Laramie, and it needs tires, and I'd like something bigger and meatier on it.
Thanks Ian. What’s the payload rating on the sticker? Any issues getting close to maxing that when pulling your trailers with family and gear? That’s what is pushing us towards a 2500 HD with a 8000lb TT and family of 5.
my payload is just under 1,500
Bought 2yr old, 20k mile, Rebel with the HEMI fully optioned w/ 4-corner air ride for 48k. Not towing can average 18-19 highway with .392 rear end. Oil change with air filter about $100. No def to deal with and cheaper fuel. To your point $70k is outrageous for a full size truck, so I opt for a lightly used option to save 30% off msrp. Won’t buy brand new ever again because depreciation is unreal.
I just bought a fully loaded 2024 V8 Rebel brand new for 52K. Got 28% off MSRP, brand new, 2 weeks ago. Level 2 with convenience, tow package, + couple of other things.
Hey Ian i have driven a ram 1500 and had f 150, ridgeline and the ram is the best ride of them all. Yes electric systems are not that good like u noticed. If i get a truck again it will be a ram. Btw i am like u not a big fan of the dial shift.....
Diesel should never cost more than gasoline... it needs less refining 😮
That's what turned me off was the extra maintenance, DEF and diesel also going up here in Canada. That and I hate the smell of diesel.
F150s not selling here, car lots are full of them, maybe time for a good deal on one, but I do like the Ram styling better 👍
I put DEF in every 1000 miles or more. 🙄 My Rebel doesn’t smell like a diesel at all.
When I bought the TRX, I had them take everything off. I actually called the owner of the dealership first and then he called down and told them to take all the markup crap off
smart. How much did that phone call save you?
I bought it in February of 21 for MSRP and sold it just over a year later in April of 2022 during the super car shortage for $46k more than I paid for it.
do you prefer the Ford with the 3.5 ecoboost or this 3.0 ecodiesel?
There is only one American automotive brand that has a place in my heart - Ford... the only one which sells relatively well in Europe. Go ahead Mopar and GM boys. Toast me 😁
I would buy RAM 2500 Tradesman 4x4 Regular Cab 8 ft. box.
So what vehicle are you planning on getting next?
He probably has it now, and inquiring minds want to know 😂
Wow! DEF every 1-2k miles? That doesn't seem right. My 2017 Eco Diesel needs DEF every 8-10k. Not sure if that is a byproduct of the redesign between the two, but that is excessive for sure!
Did you reprogram the pcm for the bigger tires? If not, your mpgs will be off.
yes
Did you ever have any mechanical or electronic problems with the Gladiator?
Trade in value is now only $38k. Wow!
Interesting info, life is messy, don’t be anxious .
So, $70,000. is too much, I would buy a good used truck before paying that price . Yes, Chevrolet is a good truck and that is why their so popular, buy what you really need, not what you want, frugal is good ! Thanks
You got robbed! I bought a 2020 Ram 1500 Laramie night edition in late 2019 for $57,693.
No u didn’t
Should have stuck with a V8
$90 for an oil filter!!
Can't wait for dealerships to die, disgusting shady middlemen.
I'm kind of with you!
@@BigRockOutdoors1I blame the automakers. The markups are because dealers get very few of these vehicles, even though demand is high, so they have to try and make their money when they can. Auto makers either need to produce more of them to meet demand, or raise the prices.
$70k?? Plus all your motorcycles and cars? I didn't know TH-camrs were so rich.
He buys these to do real owner reviews, instead of quick one drive reviews many other channels do.
I think it’s a good TH-camr strategy. I’m sure he doesn’t make profit from buying selling vehicles, but u get honest opinions. Thanks 🙏