How to Properly Wind a Key-Wound Mantle Clock
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This video shows how to properly wind a mechanical key-wound mantle clock of any manufacturer or type. - บันเทิง
I watched three videos about winding a mantel clock, and yours is the best! You are the only one who explained what the three different holes are for and how often to wind it and cautioned about overwinding. Thank you.
Seeing this up close helped me make up my mind to go ahead and buy one like this. Nice clock!! Thanks Luke your videos 👍
glad i found you, my father just gave me this identical clock. I didn't know anything about it , now I do . He got this clock in 1981 for his 30yr at southern bell ( at the time) .
My grandmother had the same clock that I have now. The plaque says it was in 1971 for 25 years of service with New Jersey Bell. I guess there are a lotta these clocks around thanks to Ma Bell?
I love that you referred to each part as a "Train" which is the proper English Term for each part that makes the clock function. Also the center one is Referred to as the "Going" Train which keeps the clock going, hence the name.
Thank you. Terms such as "striking train" and "chiming train" are new to me, but their differences were not explained here.
The Chiming Train or Quarter Train is basically the piece that makes the clock chime or what is known as the Quarter Bells. The Striking Train moves the Hour rack and tells it what hour the clock says. In the Great Clock the Striking Train lifts the hammer on Big Ben as the rack moves so it strikes the correct hour.
I have a different mantle clock made by Seth Thomas but it has those same three winding points. Thank you for this video, it would have taken me a long time to figure out which did what. I plan to wind only the central time-keeping one and let the chime and strike springs run out. For some reason my "silent" mode doesn't silence the hourly strikes. It's an amazing machine... one winding lasts for more than a week.
Hoping to get my clock and running tomorrow , thanks for video
It's true that the chiming train needs to be wound and running on most clocks in order for the strike to run. The chime train triggers the strike train to start running at the top of the hour once the chiming is complete. If you move the hands around, perhaps backward the chimes and the strike can get out of sync and most all clocks have a chime correction as part of the chiming mechanism to bring everything back into sync.
Another thing to consider with some models of mechanical clocks is that the springs won't be 'boxed'.. In other words the strike spring can simply unwind unfettered by a spring housing in the clock. With those clocks it's possible that the strike spring will unwind expanding and running into the clock train stopping the clock. This often happens when someone decides they want the clock to run, but they don't want to listen to the strike so they stop winding the strike spring.
If the clock doesn't have some means of turning off the striking, it may be best to loosen the sound rod mounting and move the sound rod out of the way so the hammer cannot strike it. Don't do anything to the mechanism to stop the strike unless you know what you're doing. You could damage the clock.
My great uncle and my father-in-law were both watch makers at Hamilton Clock in Lancaster, Pa.
I have a Ridgefield Clock that looks the same as yours but has several tunes. It is currently being serviced. The Clock Technician told me he can fix it for under $100. Not in love with the Clock but dont want it going in the trash.
This is a Spring Driven Movement I would add. Key wound could be any kind except chain drive movements.
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Winding a clock spring too.tight may cause the clocks spring to break.
I wound up the 3 key movement things but the clock is not ticking. Any clues? It's an Amana clock that looks just like the one on the video. Thank you
😊can a clock that needs to be wound to work. Can it work if it's not wound.
Hi, do you know how to adjust the click on these Bulova Mantel Clock. Mine is going to fast.
Came to TH-cam to find how to fix my clock and so glad I found your video because I have this exact same one!
Any idea on how to fix the chime that occurs at each hour? Mine is off and will chime incorrectly, for instance, 4 chimes at 10:00 instead of 10
You should be able to turn the hour hand to whatever hour it will strike. Just listen to how many chimes it makes, then turn the hour hand to whatever number it chimed.
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If it's not ticking that doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be wound !
I wish I was I knew I had one of these
Great video !!! My clock is almost exactly like yours. I purchased my mantle clock from Goodwill but it won't tick😮 any advice !!!
I picked up a Hamilton mantel clock like the one in the video. It has a balance wheel and not a pendulum. The balance wheel is like the escapement wheel in a mechanical watch. It is delicate could be damaged or just dirty and needs to be gently cleaned.
when I want to tighten the right hole (chime) and spin spin spin and I still don't feel any pressure.
what does it mean?
please answer 🙏 thank you
It’s probably already wound
If it never tightens up it could mean that the spring is broken.
Is it ok to rewind the clock before the 8th day? What do you recommend? If so, wheat would be the least amount if days to rewind.
I was told Not to let the clock run all the way down . Please advise. Thanks for sharing.
It is fine to rewind before the 8th day. You can also rewind anytime before the 8th
@@itsant07 Thanks for replying back. Greatly Appreciated.
My family had an eight day clock and it was "ritual" for Dad to wind it Saturday mornings.
Do you have a video with how to get the clock to slow? Mine is losing a minute a day.
oh oh Mr. Kotter! I know the answer to that -- perhaps. The example in the video does not have it, but mine does and perhaps yours does as well. Is there a wind up hole near the 12? The guy who sold me a key to my new clock (it was missing) told me I could buy a special key for that to fix your exact problem. I did not buy it yet, but I guess the idea is you turn it one way to speed it up and the other way to slow it down. If your clock does not have such a hole at the 12, well then, nevermind. :)
My gong strike will not strike even though the chimes do, all are wound up?. Any idea why?.
Contact a clock repair person to see if you can buy one.
Why does my W.L. Gilbert schoolhouse clock wind counterclockwise.? Was the spring assembled backwards?
No
Different clock makers designed their clocks differently. I have a wall clock that winds counterclockwise for the time train and clockwise for the strike train.
My Seth Thomas (circa 1940) winds counter-clockwise. All three holes do. My partner complains and complains about the noise my clock makes so today I wanted to just have it tell time even though I love hearing the chimes. What is the distiction between the holes on the three and nine from each other? I don't understand. The one at 6 is the time so I wound (past tense of wind?) that and will let the other two wind down so he will be stop complaining.
What if I wind one and not the other? What will NOT happen?
Some clocks have a silence option. I have two mantle clocks. One has a silent switch on the front (like in video). The other has a stop lever in the back of the clock, when raised keeps the chimes from striking. Unfortunately I don’t know what it does if you do not wind the other two holes.
I have a 1940 Seth Thomas mantle clock and next to the 5 on the dial there's a place to insert the small end of the key (#0 size key) )to turn the chimes on and off. Insert the key and carefully rotate counter clockwise about 80 degrees to turn off the chimes. Turn clockwise to re-enable the chime. On some models there's a lever inside on the back of the movement that will lift the hammers so they cannot strike the rods.
Another possibility would be to let the chiming train run down and stop winding the mainspring. That would be the winding post on the right side. Since the chime train triggers the strike train neither will run. Just wind the center spring for clock operation.
I've heard some people caution not to do this but having knowledge of the ST124 movement in these clocks I can say it's perfectly safe mechanically to not wind either the chime or the strike train and only the time train. The star wheel on the center wheel will continue to lift the chime lifting lever every 15 minutes, but that won't harm anything. The chime train simply won't respond once it winds down.
The chimes and the strikes will get out of sync, but the mechanism in the clock that corrects this will engage to fix it within an hour or two once the chime train is wound.
My chiming is off the hour how do I fix it I just got the clock like the one your winding
Hamilton mantel clocks are self regulating and should correct themselves after two hours. Let it run and see what happens.
Where do I get a winding key ? How do I know which size?
Order one online just know who made the clock. If the clock worked before you lost the key it should be okay after 5 er rewinding. If it hasn't run in years be prepared for clock repair charges.
Can you wind without the key?
You can get a key online for cheap… Just google your clock maker for size of key…Example Sessions 1940 mantel clock will take a Size “5” key Good Luck 🍀
I can’t find how to silence my quarter and hourly chime. Can you help? There is no lever on the face and I cannot find anything at the back door. Nothing are in the instructions either … I think it’s a Linder
if you only wind the time keeping the chimes will run out after a week
Is there anything i can do, if the key is lost. any alternative method?
You can find a key online for about ten dollars. If you got the clock at a second hand store it will most likely need more help than a key can provide. Many videos on TH-cam if you want to immerse yourself in a fun, interesting and oft times frustrating hobby.
Oh, and different clocks take different size keys...just knowing what company made the clock will say what size you need to order.
There are more than a dozen different key sizes possible. Some clocks use a double ended key. The Seth Thomas using a ST124 movement uses a double ended key with a size #0 on one end, and a #3 on the other. The #3 is for winding the clock and the #0 is for adjusting the regulation of the clock (speed) through a hole near the 12 on the dial, and some models the same small key size is for turning the chimes on and off through a hole near the number 5 on the dial.
Get the right size key.. If you feel slop, play in a key you're trying to use on the winding post the key is the wrong size and you may damage the shaft and or the key.
If uncertain take the clock to a repair shop in your area and they can help you get the size you need.
If you have a good measuring caliper where the tips can reach into the hole you can measure between the flat surfaces on the shaft and look up the size you need on-line. It's a numeric sized based on a metric measurement (millimeters / fraction of a millimeter).
If you're bringing a clock back to life you might want to have it serviced before trying to use it. Clocks need to be cleaned and lubricated every so many years. If the clock is very old and was run too long without proper servicing there's a good chance that it will need to have bushings installed. If it needs bushings there's a good change you won't be able to get it to run properly, consistently because the pinions will shift in their holes and cause binding.
thank you, I'm always afraid I'll over wind my clock.
You won't over wind it. See the next comment. You know it's wound when it becomes harder to wind.
How can you fix it if you over wound the clock?
There is no such thing as an overwound clock. That is a myth. If it is wound tight and not running, it means it is dirty or a pivot hole is out of round or damaged teeth on a wheel. It needs to taken to a shop to be serviced because something is binding.
If a person keeps wrenching on the key once the clock is fully wound there is a chance that they'll damage either the winding arbor, or the hole in the mainspring where the arbor catches or where the spring attaches to the barrel. Just stop winding when you feel it getting tight and the clicks stop or a little before then. As the other commenter stated there's no such thing as over winding the clock. Fully wound is when the spring exerts the most force on the gear train. If the clock won't run, or won't chime or strike, you have other problems and need to have it looked at.