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0:05 He fell victim to one of the classic blunders - the most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia” - but only slightly less well-known is “never tell a Sicilian that he can't fish in the Mediterranean”!
@@spyrofrost9158well, the northern and eastern shores of Sicily are on the Tyrrhenian Sea. While part of the Mediterranean. The water is cooler than the southern Mediterranean and fish are more abundant.
@@magicpyroninja One could also argue he destroyed more than most people will destroy in their lifetime. Wether the good outweighs the bad is up for debate, but history seems to indicate that whatever his legacy was, it was not great stability. He was Alexander the Great, but the question is Great at what? Was he a great strategist, tactician, horseman, politician, statesman, lover, drinker, gourmet, scientist, writer, diplomat, gambler, idiot, father,... and what did he suck at. If history is valuable so we can learn from the mistakes, maybe it's the best question of them all.
@@metatronyt Yes, there is a doubling that start at 37:16 (you can see small Metatron de-sync) and ends at 37:31 . (Though the video tracks start running inparallel afterwards; I stoped watching here)
21:43 In Finland, we ”were strongly encouraged” (a.k.a. Had to) use ”Enricher”, instead of ”Immigrant”, for a short period, like, 15 years ago. Didn’t kick off.
Its still used in Germany but is in core Colonialism to keep control over a conquered region/governemnt/system. "Bereicherer" = Enricher. Housing problems, Jobloss are at peak level right now and they still want to invite the whole world on only 350.000 sqkm Land with already 85 Million people living in the land. Its British/USA Colonialism. They do this to remain in power, for a people with no history and no land are easy to be governed. USA and the King of England will never ever give up reign over Europe. People (also Migrants) believe England/USA are handing over Europe (or specifically Germany) to their arch-Enemys in/of the Orient/Mesopotamia. That will never happen. The Migrants are cheering to early.
Bruh wtf is that. imagine calling someone an enricher just because they come from a different place lol. You can see that the people that encourage it , literally think ''but buuut immigration will safe the economy and give the country (them aka the encouragers) more money. They don't care about the populace. Immigration doesn't link to better economy anyways. The forcing of multiculturalism and so called ''tolerance'' (which is basically intolerate anyone who doesn't agree with you) is getting out of hand for a while now.
13:06 "Availability Bias" A distortion that arises from the use of information which is most readily available, rather than that which is necessarily most representative. For example, if some future civilization only had access to our mass media, they would have a very mistaken idea of what we were actually like.
I would imagine that in the past 100 or so years the availability bias for future historians is much less of a problem than in the past. Everyone can read and write, and paper isn't prohibitively expensive, so you don't need to be a member of the elite to write your thoughts down. And in the past 20-30 years with the internet there is no limit to how much we can express ourselves, not just in writing but images, videos etc. Although I don't know how much of contemporary media survives since so much of it is digital
@@exantiuse497 I mean even historically literacy was more common then most think. The issue was often paper or similar wasn't common and storage was most certainly not common. Why is the chunk of wood saying "took cows out to sunset field" worth keeping after all?
@@exantiuse497 Well much/most of it is online, so perhaps as long as the internet survives? Though there's probably some issue in the long term that will only become relevant in like 76 years
@@exantiuse497 Availability bias works in (at least) two ways. There is what is actually there to find, which is a much bigger problem in archeology for example, but there in the current ocean of information there is also what people can quickly recall. There was an interesting study about this when Pew research asked people how many unarmed black people were taken out by cops per year. They categorised people as very conservative, conservative, progressive or very progressive and the options given were 0, 10, 100, 1.000 and 10.000. The actual number according to the Washington Post was 25. Conservatives generally went for 10 or 100, but progressives mostly said 1.000 while very progressive people said either 1.000 or 10.000. One of the explanations offered was availability bias because left leaning media focus heavily on every racial incident so most progressive people could sum up a list of news stories about unarmed black people getting taken out by cops.
I don’t understand why they keep framing Greek pederasty as a good thing when it’s such an abusive practice. Literally an older man abusing/grooming an underage boy.
...who's "they" here? In this video the expert literally says, "what today we'd consider a felony" clearly indicating he's not endorsing the practice whatsoever
My cousin regularly scuba fishes off of Ischia aka the Greek colony of Pithekoussai. He's brings in lots of seafood. Hate to tell him that according to this professor, he's not really fishing.
@@NoName-mi8jsRomans used sea sponge as toilet paper, you don't catch them with fishing rods or nets. The ancient were capable of diving to some degree.
@@NoName-mi8js there are still fishers (primarily women) that fish by diving without equipment in eastern Asia (I think Taiwan) it is an ancient Tradition. Cant ofcouse be compared with the Med but it should not be ruled out
Professors are specialists : If you're assigned topic specialization in society and cant get that 1 literal thing right, you should not be in that position.
@@Dean-x5d He is an "expert" but the minoan art front and center in the presentation has less to do with the topic than Colosseum in a panel about Venice in 1500 AD. To be polite about it, if his "leaps and advances" disappeared tomorrow, nobody would notice.
I was thinking the same thing about the words enslaved person. They seem to think that calling the person a slave reflects on the identity of the person more than calling the person enslaved as an adjective. I wonder how much do all those "euphemisms" increase the word count of secondary school essays.
@@BqgWyy Well I'm definitely unhoused, and unflatted/unapartmented as well for that matter. But ;while technically [according to the council] I'm homeless I also have a roof over my head, central heating [yaay, only the second place with central heating in 40 years], living space and separate bedrooms. Euphemisms are getting seriously out of hand at this stage [I'm as unhoused as the other 2 families living around me, we all live in mobile homes in someone's back garden]
"Not great for fishing?" Tell the sailors who Marinara sauce was created! In Turi, Bari where my family is from, they eat fresh, raw fish with raw vegetables for breakfast with lemon and olive oil. Unless, they were still dreaming and thought they were eating fish? Also, Basilica di San Nicola where my bisnonno Vincenzo Gigantelli died working on the marble tomb, was created for the body of San Nicola who was saved by the Barese merchants and brought his bones to Italy where all great saints belong!
That statement baffled me, as I am a sports fisherman. The fish population has declined in the Mediterranean, but already back in the eighties when I fished there, there were a huge abundance of fish, especially different seabreams and tuna. This was after the population had already declined, but in ancient time the fish population must have been huge.
It's one of those things where a professor steps outside his expertise and repeats something wrong without having any experience. Then people like you (you fished there) and me (I was brought up there) that actually know how the Mediterranean is get very confused. Academics should not do this but they do, a lot.
@@DaveReece-u4b It doesn't mattter, there's lots of fish all over. People around the Mediterranean eat lots of fish and seafood now and they pretty much always have. It being a relatively poor place to fish is just nonsense in any other context than modern commercial ocean fishing, which is not really valid when we're talking about ancient history.
As a Greek, I am tired of hearing how "accepted" same sex relationships were in ancient Greece. It simply isn't true, why are these people so fixated on shoehorning that in every video? Also, I dont understand why he would say that fishing in the Mediterranean is subpar, Greece in modern times is known for its great seafood.
@Ponto-zv9vf It's the opposite. It's the view from a degenerate society with misguided guilt thrust upon them. Puritans wouldn't be eagerly creating propaganda of how the founders of western philosophy were fond of man on boy butsecks
Because a lot of Greeks not only had no issue with it but had institutionalized same sex relationships. The real issue is greece is not a monolith and someone was Theban, Athenian, and Spartan before being greek, so making blanket statements is stupid. On fish, it's because it is subpar. The med catches smaller fish at a lower rate than the good fishing places.
@Droid6689 No, it was a lot because greece changed its opinion several times and different cities and cultural groups had very different ideas about it. Sparta and athens are the best example. Athens was never pro homosexuality but for a long time never persecuted it. That changed over centuries. On the other hand it was always accepted in Sparta and became core to a male Citizens lifestyle. Perception in most city states depended on station. A wealthy man was perfectly able to take a male lover, it was fine, supported even. But a poor citizen or non citizen could not. Greek views on homosexuality are complex, rootes in social, cultural, and economic norms unique to specific city states and regional cultures.
I get literally 2 seconds in and this dingus says " The Mediterranean is not a good place to fish." How to sound like a fool right off the bat! Where do they find some of these people? I am certain that 2K years ago it must have been a fisherman's paradise. Even today with rampant over-fishing and ecological damage of insane proportions it still yields a great bounty. Sorry I was so stunned by the statement I had to make an immediate comment.
...I mean Metatron is deliberately editing the video out of order to show the most "controversial" parts first to grab your attention. The quote itself actually came from near the end of the video. Your point about him saying a silly thing is valid, but just correcting you that it wasn't like he said that incorrect thing right away
I’m sure that some parts of the Mediterranean like off the coast of Libya are not a good place to fish. Lydia has been unable to use fishing to feed their people even with their small population so they have to import their food.
Regarding homosexuality in ancient Greece: From what I've gathered, Greeks were relatively tolerant towards sexual relations between men relative to other ancient cultures, however the idea that there was some sort of egalitarian attitude towards sexuality is completely ludicrous. A man was allowed to do it with either gender as long as he or she wasn't a citizen. Relations involving penetration between citizen men was a taboo, especially for the passive partner, and if the passive partner was an adolescent citizen boy it was an insult towards his family. Pederasty was a romantic relationship between a boy and a man but it wouldn't usually involve (penetrative) sex, that was a taboo even in the context of pederasty When it comes to same-sex relations between women, it apparently didn't carry the same stigma as male to male relations, mainly because the Greeks, being an extremely male-centric society even by ancient standards, didn't necessarily consider sexual activity between women to be sex at all. Whether it was common is not known, the society wouldn't have encouraged it but if a woman was so inclined most people probably didn't care It is very silly to me that left-leaning people are trying to portray ancient Greece as some sort of paragon of sexual egalitarianism when it was anything but
And also the "territory" of the Ancient Greeks they like to say. Ancient Greeks ah equals to LGBt! Men with boys, women with girls!! Bla bla bla again and again and again... But they never mentioned, Ancient Ionians, Byzantium, Cyprus, Carthage, Black Sea Kingdoms, Krimea, that's an Ancient Greek word Krimea... Those areas are also part of the larger Greek world. No LGbt over in those places?? No "Ancient Greeks" in those places?? Ah we know the reason, they can't say that. Modern day Turkish, Russians and Muslims will roast their hides if they even say a word about LbGt on their ancestors... Modern day Greeks and Italians are those are our "punching bags" yea...
@@Crimea_River Your literally part of the problem along with this professor that he’s talking about, your forcing modern politics into history which making your analysis bias. Modern day left & right is irrelevant to my comment, and the fact that’s what you reply to my comment with shows how brainwashed you are🤦♂️
@@Crimea_River Wrong generalizations are wrong generalizations, no amount of modern tribalism being dumb justifies it. This isn't really the channel to say "but they do it too!" on.
"The Odyssey" was one of my favorite books I read in school that I bought a hardbound version that I still re-read forty-five years later. "A Tale of Two Cities" is another I had to have in my collection.
I studied Child Development in the 1970s and read about research that found children were most likely to be well adjusted if there were an adult male and female in the family (not necessarily father and mother). Could such a study be cited today?
@@GothPaoki based off a novel, which I believe is still told in the perspective of the Spartans. I’ve watched the movie religiously with my stepdad and brothers, but I haven’t read the book.
Movie 300, the other side will see it as Evil Spartans massacring fathers and sons of Persia! Many wives and sisters and mothers will cry that they can't see their loved ones...
Metatron not only doesn't play by the rules of Wired, he doesn't even care about following rules when editing. This man is truly off the leash! He is too powerful now 😮
I believe the idea is that "slave" is dehumanising and the "person" in "enslaved person" is supposed to remind you that slaves are/were people. IMO that's condescending, as if we didn't understand slaves are people if the word doesn't remind us, plus the word bloat from having to add the word "person" every time is a hassle
@@exantiuse497 Exactly. The counterpart is calling the slaveowner an "enslaver" on the theory that no one can own someone else. But what makes the institution so dehumanizing is precisely that one person *could* own another person. Not to mention that an enslaver is someone who takes another into slavery (e.g., the ruling tribes of Dahomey), not the person who buys or several generations inherits a person born into slavery.
Biologist in learning here, i have no idea what the hell he's on about with the Mediterranean being hot and therefore not great for fishing, coastal warm seas are abundant with fish and marine life. It's genuinely baffling that he says it, like it should be common snese that the Mediterranean is known for fishing
THANK YOU! I was really worried about how I was going to break the prof’s news to the fishing fleets and charters around the Florida peninsula and Gulf of Mexico. I guess they never got the memo 😂
I think he means that the Mediterranean Sea loses more via evaporation than it gains from rivers, the Black Sea and rainfall. It is the Atlantic Sea that keeps the Mediterranean sea from disappearing and leaving nothing but salt behind.
its funny because 300 at least the movie did actually have a segment showing Leonidas killing a Helot. They did not spare the idea that Spartans were brutal at all.
@@Ben-zr4ho You know I just checked...and whoops, you are correct, I did misremember! Turns out the scene I was thinking of was in a documentary released around the same time (totally not aping the movies cinematography, lol). My bad! Still, the movies opening makes a pretty strong case of the Spartans upbringing being very brutal and not really in all that favorable of a light, but more in the stoic thats what happened kind of way, even if its obviously exaggerated.
Sure but WIRED seems to specifically hand pick those people who are willing to push an agenda. I’ve seen channels where you get both. WIRED is clearly only pushing one side.
It is abaolutely Wired. Contrary to the anti-academic talking points many people spread nowadays, not all professors/academics are liberals who try to push their leftwing ideals at the expense of the truth. In my experience (conservative-leaning man and doctoral student) there are hyper-liberals, ultraconservatives and everything in between in academia. Liberals might be the plurality (out of liberals/centrists/conservatives) but not the majority let alone the totality. The myth that all academics are liberals pushing their ideology comes from, on one hand, conservative anti-academics trying to discourage people from going to university by claiming it turns people into liberals, and on the other hand liberal media which has a selection bias and only gives a voice to liberal academics. Most people try to find the truth, they may have biases that affect their conclusions but actual faking or intentional misrepresentation of facts isn't common
@@exantiuse497 Are all academics Progressives? (I won't stain the word liberal here.) As you've said, of course not, but Progressives run the collegiate show, and the evidence is everywhere, right down to an obscure art college in Minnesota. Furthermore Political Correctness (a philosophy that's inherently niggardly about vocabulary) is literally the product of the extreme Progressive Left. Worse is that it is an obvious application of the Orwellian Newspeak concept, i.e. if you change the language so that certain things can't be conceived, let alone expressed (the current, Stage One phase of elimination), then those things will be forgotten. Likewise, the collegiate Progressives keep trying to rewrite history to suit their current opinions, a la the 1619 (disinformation) Project. You can't sever the connection between the collegiate Progressive Left from Metatron's complaints about historical revisionism and linguistic censorship. Correcting things like the Lost Cause? Have at, because I hate deception in history, but 1619-type revisionism and social oppression for "good causes", as evidenced here? NNBFN! How about you educate yourself about the problems and wake up? he said ironically.
I had no idea you were also a Mutant Ninja Turtle Metatron but after seeing many of your weapon skill videos we probably should have suspected you can handle twin sai.😉 In all seriousness, I love these videos of you reviewing historical media of all kinds and keeping them honest. Love it!
@@lambchop83 the Mediterranean is warm and free of storms for most of the year and you can take a 12-foot boat and fish all year long. Before the late middle ages, no culture on earth had the technology to fish in open oceans. No, not even the Vikings.
Fun fact, Eratosthenes calculated the north-south circumference of the earth (because he was in egypt at that time) and not the equatorial one, reason why he's a little bit off (like 500 kms).
@@ragingsmurfling7205 funny, because both pronunciations are wrong, although AYE is much closer than EE. It would be Raf-AH-el, but short AH and all together, just like you say 'cat' instead of c-AY-t, it shouldn't have that Y / EE sound after the AH sound, very much like the word 'fat' and slightly different than the sound in 'cut'.
It's my first time this early, love your videos Metatron. Your dedication to the truth and preservation of knowledge is admirable. Keep speaking the truth and fighting against misinformation, we really appreciate the research and effort you put into this.
I dont know how I came across your channel recently, but I am so happy that I did. You have quickly become one of my favorites and I just wanted to say thank you.
"Excess in all things is the undoing of man." - Aristotle - "Moderation in all things including moderation." - Oscar Wilde - I love pairing these 2 quotes.😁
Our undoing seems to be scarcity now, a fear regime. I say: Balance brings health. ... But maybe Wilde had the most accurate one, because variety also enriches the soul.
@@UncleMikeDrop Obsession with efficiency, to do ever-more with ever-less, and a ruling class sucking ever-more wealth out of society since they lacked love in their upbringing and are now rampantly trying to substitute that emotional lack with material wealth and dominating influence. This is also why the green movement has a love affair with big industry as long as it buys into the shared pain: Both are acting like we have to be super-stingy with our resource use, i.e. severe focus on symptom management. Abundance in all things is manifested through love, and it is a win-win because along that abundance created, people will also become less greedy/needy, thus amplifying the potency of that abundance.
Didn't almost all great people died at a relatively young age? I mean, if you engaged in battle constantly, and when life expectancy was already around the 40s maybe, 30 years is already quite a number even if you lived a peaceful life.
Apparently medicine really jumped through the roof in the somewhere between the 17 and 18 century. Before... you could have a healthy body, be the epitome of fitness and still die to some random pos disease, as if the gods themself smited you down.
Life expectancy averages were heavily skewed by a large rate of infant mortality. If you account for that, the average goes up to, I believe, around the mid to late 60s. Still young by today's standards, but not nearly as extreme as 40.
Yeah pretty much. Plus it’s ABSURD to say “the ancient Greeks did this or were open to that or considered it the purest form of love” when you are ONLY talking about a few elites. Could you imagine doing that today? Elon Musk is obsessed with the letter X hence all Americans in the 21st century regarded the letter X as the best letter in the alphabet. Then repeat this a hundred times and here we are.
The movie 300 is perfectly accurate to what it is - a visualization of a campfire story told by a Spartan to other soldiers on the night before a for a battle. That's the point of the story. Realistic enough to be believed by people living back then and full of idealized iconic moments. That's the entire point of the movie, that's why the very first and very last scenes are there.
What has the age at which someone died has to do with his greatness? If anything doing what Alexander the great did in just the time before his 33 birthday makes him even more impressive!
There is no logic to what is politically incorrect, by definition it is about what would upset people, so if a word upsets someone it can become politically incorrect. Currently if someone thinks something might upset a protected group they can push that to be censored.
Which is why it's contextualized within the Overton window for that era and that society, it doesn't have a specific logical definition but more of a general form of puritanism regarding ideas, with said form (shape) being filled by what's not acceptable. "You can't say that" is the primordial cry of the 'good and righteous' politically/religiously/socially correct person.
So basically: WIRED: rarely got anything right at all but keep on doing it for the $$$ History Hit: ok most of the time -at least they know what they're doing
History hit and Wired are in totally different leagues from what I've seen. The History hit professors have been alright, Metatron ripped hard on the Egypt guy for giving a smartass answer to that one question but overall he was fine, and the middle ages professors was perfectly decent with no real complaints. Neither of them made any judgement based on modern ideals or otherwise tried to push any sort of ideology
@@exantiuse497 History Hit is "hit or miss" - they have extremly good experts - like Roel "the ditch guy". Others are so/so and others are just bad. I still remember the "expert" on Rome who told in the first two minutes that Romans believed that illnesses were caused by magic. Didn't bother to watch the rest it obviously.
@@_Lax_ this professor was absolutely fine apart from his fishing knowledge. The comment section is discussing slave or enslaved, which has nothing to do with his expertise. The why did Alexander died so young when he was so great thing was the question and not his answer. The homosexual relationship stuff: nothing he said was wrong. Metatron thought it was incomplete. Fine. But it wasn’t deliberately giving false information. Most of his answers were that good that the commentary was just “the Romans did that, too“. I can’t defend the fishing bullshit, but this guy was a knowledgeable expert in his field and really tried to answer the questions.
13:20 and 17:56 deserve their own investigative video, IMO. The idea that the Library of Alexandria was burnt down erased so much history sounds like an epic tragedy, but the more you dig into it, the more you realise it’s similar to saying Sparta dissolved around 300 BC without mentioning that by then, Sparta was already significantly weakened and no longer a major power. Likewise, the library was defunded and damaged multiple times over the centuries, and no-one ever bothered to maintain it simply because pagan and Christian knowledge weren’t considered the same.
At university, we briefly discussed the movie 300, but it was as an example of how history is used commercially, we did not view it as a representation of how things were, the movie got some small things right, like the spartans marching to flutes, that other greek soldiers was massed levies, not full time soldiers, but it was so glossed over by over the top dialogue, action and black and white morality that any semblance to real life history was swept away by the tidal wave of "Oh glorious greece and Spa-a-a-ar-ta!".
When you look at it if it is an accurate retelling of history, it's obviously not going to be, but when you look at it if is an accurate retelling of the tale of 300 Spartans, then it is much better.
The best argument I have heard for the accuracy of 300 it that its supposed to be the Spartan survivor telling his fellows about the battle with a lot of fervor such that it turned int oa fantasy story.
Ah the movie was a litteral non-history movie. It's like taking a Japanese anime or some Samurai game and say ah thats the history of Japan! I don't really remembered much details about the 300 movie. But I can still remember some glaring errors inthat film. Too many Blacks on the Persian Empire side, no Greeks or Slavics, ie White men among em. Although we knew many Greek kingdoms from Byzantium to Thebes have joined up to invade Sparta by that point. And ofcoz! The Persian King Xerxes is not a Brazilian model with piercings bro! He should be wearing something like what Sumerian/Babylonian arts are showing. With long beard too...
I'm a big fan of the alternate common era chronology, which is set from the birth of JC. No, the other JC: Julius Caesar. And since he was born 100 years before the other JC, the current year would be 2124 instead of 2024. It's also a good idea from the point of view of the end of the roman republic, since most political violence is dated to that century, and much rarer before then.
@@aszechy well, some of us come from different places and religions. for example, my family are hindus, I was raised as one, and while living in the US I converted to judaism for a couple of years, so the holiday I celebrated at that date was hanuka. You have to remember that if you live in the US, you live in the modern day US, not the old time US, today even chistian children expect Santa Claus instead of some christian miracle. It's worth mentioning too that, although forgotten in america, other countries still remember that the US (and many other republics of that era) was founded by 'not-quite-religious' enlightenment philosophers that were fleeing puritan christians in Europe, of the sort that Cromwell would have represented a century before, you know, Oliver Cromwell, the guy who kicked the monarchy out of England and banned all Christmas celebrations that were not explicitly focused on the birth of Jesus. The freedom of religion that the US was based around was to prevent those things from becoming political, like both sides are doing today, and in my opinion the US should to back to having an enlightenment based culture, instead of a puritan christian or puritan socialist (pc, sjw, woke, etc.) culture. Sociocultural wars destroy societies, just ask the romans if you can find any...
I prefer using BCE and CE because there is a calculation error in the system to avoid the misunderstanding that "little baby Jesus" was indeed born in year one. *World of Antiquity* made a good video about this topic, see *Am I Too "Woke" for Saying CE and BCE?*
Sure Alexander put himself in harms way, but is that not usual for hellenistic rulers? I think that I remember at least Antigonos Monophtalmos (?) And Demetrios Poliorketes did and also Phillip II and Phyrrus
35:47 Absolute ignorance. The Mediterranean produces the most flavorful fisheries on the planet and nations around the sea have a huge culinary culture based on them.
Personally I would say “one of the most flavorful” with Florida and the US Gulf Coast, Red Sea, Indo-Pacific, and many other places also being high on the list along with the Mediterranean, and Aegean (though some might consider that part of the Med)
I already knew what it was when he slid that mention of “oppression” in there. They always have to mention oppression, if they can. There’s a specific reason for this and it’s usually about deconstruction.
Oh, yes. Divide and conquer is the primary tactic of a particular ideology's worldview. Believing themselves to always be fighting for the "underdog."/s
@@stevencoardveniceYep. Every year, the Spartans would even recite a speech why they had authority over the Helots. Not that their society actually lasted that long considering how dysfunctional it was structured. There’s a whole informative video on how the Spartan system disenfranchised even Spartans, turning even them into nothing better than Helots. That takes a ton of guts to boast to a conquered people how we’ve taken your land and made you our slaves. It’s as badass as it’s callous. Makes me wonder if that speech influenced the Reaping in the Hunger Games.
"the Mediterranean sea isn't good for fishing" might be the most ignorant thing anyone has ever said on any subject. "yeah, these people who's diet is 70% from the sea, their sea wasn't good for fishing."
Actually, according to at least one prominent scholar of the subject (ESOTERICA, if you're interested), the reason early Semitic languages didn't include vowels was out of religious respect; to the people of the time, words had power whether spoke or writen, enough power that to write the name of a thing was to invoke and potentially insult them. This is why all we know of the name of the Abrahamic god is YHWH, as no one was willing to write the whole thing down for fear of invoking His wrath.
The movie 300 was accurate to its source material. The problem is that said source material was a graphic novel that took a LOT of liberties on actual history.
Indeed the Spartans were the most armored of the Greeks. They even had red cloaks, and if Warhammer has taught me nothing else, that means they all moved faster
That the people in medieval times all thought the earth is flat is a nonsense that still a lot of people think it was the case, today. In fact that nonsense came from someone with the catholic church who seems to believe it (so you can call that guy an early flat earth believer). Even if the chuch itself knew it was round and not flat. I struggle to find the name of that person.but even most of the ordinary people had an idea that the earth was round, just by looking at the horizon, Even more those living close to the sea when they watched ships that sailed into the sund and then "disappeared" beyond the horizon. The was the idea that people on the "other side" might have walked crouched, but to say everyone during the medi eval period believed that the earth was flat is pure nonsense. SOME did!
@@joemadden4160 I think I saw it in high school which would have been in the 60's. It is available on line I think but as you say not many are familiar with it.
36:00 - "They didn't have a lot of animal livestock, so they didn't eat a lot of meat." Then how do you justify what you just said earlier about the Olympics? 23-40 - "On the third day of the Olympics, They would have a sacrifice where they killed 100 cows, a huge all day long BBQ that included a lot of drinking." Where did all those cows come from then? Raising that many cows for slaughter every 4 years sounds like a massive undertaking, at least to me. It made your later claim seem rather dubious, and quite the contradiction. 這些都矛盾! One of those statements is false, professor. They can't both be right.
@@longshotkdb They give you a piece of paper which can double as toilet paper after the fall of our civilization to this nonsense. The stuff could be worth a pretty penny then!
The Mediterranean Sea is an extremely good place for fishing which is why it has many apex predators such as Great White Sharks, Hammerheads, Blue Sharks, Mako Sharks, Bluefin Tuna
Greeks Dominated the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire was led by glittering Constantinople for over a thousand years. There was never a Byzantine empire….and there was never a split into two separate empires, ,….one western and one eastern. There was only ever ONE Roman Empire.
24:42 “Greek has been spoken in the Balkan peninsula since around the 3rd millennium BC, or possibly earlier. The earliest written evidence is a Linear B clay tablet found in Messenia that dates to between 1450 and 1350 BC, making Greek the world's oldest recorded living language.” “The Dispilio tablet is a wooden tablet bearing inscribed markings, unearthed during George Hourmouziadis's excavations of Dispilio in Greece, and carbon 14-dated to 5202 (± 123) BC.[1] It was discovered in 1993 in a Neolithic lakeshore settlement that occupied an artificial island[2] near the modern village of Dispilio on Lake Kastoria in Kastoria, Western Macedonia, Greece.” ….ωικιρεδια …” The Greek language is ranked as the richest in the world with 5 million words and 70 million word types! Greek roots are often used to coin new words for other languages, especially in the medicine and sciences. Greek words and word elements continue to be productive as a basis for coinages: anthropology, photography, biomechanics, telephony, isomer, cinematography, etc. An estimated 12% of the English vocabulary has a Greek origin. …” …”Greek was once considered the “language of knowledge” for intellectuals and philosophers throughout Europe. Many great minds wrote their most important works in Greek before translating them into other tongues…” “Everyone has to learn Greek, because it is through Greek that one can understand one’s own language.” …Jacqueline de Romillyn “….Today, the modern Greek people still sometimes use, in addition to the terms "Greeks" and "Hellenes", the Byzantine (Roman) term "Romaioi," or "Romioi," ("Romans") to refer to themselves, as well as the term "Romaic" ("Roman") to refer to their Modern Greek language….”
“….Today, the modern Greek people still sometimes use, in addition to the terms "Greeks" and "Hellenes", the Byzantine (Roman) term "Romaioi," or "Romioi," ("Romans") to refer to themselves, as well as the term "Romaic" ("Roman") to refer to their Modern Greek language….”
Nudity for athletes was instituted for the Olympic games for religious reasons. The comperitors were required to be male. After a competitor was discovered to be a woman clothes wee baned to prevent further sacrilege.
I've heard that story before but am quite sure that's an urban legend. As said in the video, they've also trained naked in the gymnasium. And it wouldn't be necessary to perform publicly naked if it was the reason to prohibit women from taking part, a strip search would suffice. It doesn't seem very convincing to me that they've been wearing cloths before and would completely change it just because one incident.
@@Ponto-zv9vf I would think that it was a factor. That is also why exercise and bathing were done naked although both were done in a segregated environment. Attendents didn't count, nude patritian women bathers could be served refreshments by male attendents. There was a sense of purity, lack of distractions, associated with nudity. The games had an audience of thousands of clothed spectators which other nude activities didn't.
@@Spielkalb-von-Sparta I think nudity as proof of not being a "male impersonator" was a traditional part of the games. The games had a religious component and male only was certainly part of that. The actual incident of female intrusion likely happened but maybe not. The lack of details ( what woman, from what city ) does not support it being an actual event. There are other reasons for nudity such as purity in the sense of absence of distraction.
If I'm not mistaken, the paint on the Parthenon was visible with the naked eye until the 17th or 18th century i.e. the beginning of the Industrial Revolution or just before.
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Is he Tech Support or a historian?
Sincere question
Also, you meant "...he put himself 'in harm's way.'"
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As Sicilian, do you also have Ancient Greek origin? can you know that?
I think prof.made reference to moral glorification of Spartans in "300". And thus mentioned psy-war on Helots.
"If Jimi Hendrix was such a great guitar player, why'd he die at 27?"
"How can we say that Tupac Shakur was such a great rapper when he died at 25?"
"If James Dean was such a great actor, why did he die at 24?"
Yup, Alexander lived hard and died young leaving a good looking corpse.
Rock'n'Roll.
If Eddie Cochran was such a great rock and roller, why did he die aged 21?
Add Kurt Cobain.
0:05 He fell victim to one of the classic blunders - the most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia” - but only slightly less well-known is “never tell a Sicilian that he can't fish in the Mediterranean”!
Inconceivable!!!
Where else is Sicily man gonna fish? He's surrounded by the Mediterranean. No fish for you, island boy!
@@spyrofrost9158well, the northern and eastern shores of Sicily are on the Tyrrhenian Sea. While part of the Mediterranean. The water is cooler than the southern Mediterranean and fish are more abundant.
You could easily use that actual quote from the movie, since metatron is Sicilian
*Never bet against a Sicilian when a fish is on the line!*
"To be put in harms way.." exposing yourself to harm. Great vid yet again Metatron, many thanks
Yes that was it! Thanks
In harm's way - yes, the apostrophe actually belongs there.
Or "putting yourself in harm's way".
If you are put in harm's way...isn't somebody or something else exposing you to danger? You can put yourself in harm's way too, of course.
@@metatronytwhich makes me think, did it started has "put in arm's ways" or "put in harm's ways"?
In his 32 years, he accomplished more than most people will ever accomplish in their lifetime
To a factor of 100, one can safely say. Whoever made the question is either a troll or a special child. Bad curating from Wired.
@@stalhandske9649 Doesn't really matter. It's a leading question to get the expert to elaborate on the life of Alexander
He also killed lots of people.
His Empire collapsed immediately after his death. His sole accomplishment was causing death and destruction
@@magicpyroninja One could also argue he destroyed more than most people will destroy in their lifetime. Wether the good outweighs the bad is up for debate, but history seems to indicate that whatever his legacy was, it was not great stability. He was Alexander the Great, but the question is Great at what? Was he a great strategist, tactician, horseman, politician, statesman, lover, drinker, gourmet, scientist, writer, diplomat, gambler, idiot, father,... and what did he suck at. If history is valuable so we can learn from the mistakes, maybe it's the best question of them all.
The editing towards the end is all over the place, from minute 37:00 onwards
Hey thank you for watching that far in the video! Yeah there is a doubling I hadn't noticed. Apologies for that.
Oof. yea. i just hit that point myself. yikes. I guess its when he was doing the teaser clips at the start of the vid.
@@metatronyt Yes, there is a doubling that start at 37:16 (you can see small Metatron de-sync) and ends at 37:31 . (Though the video tracks start running inparallel afterwards; I stoped watching here)
and on 27:45 as well?
I was so confused xD
Another professor with a black belt in Bullshiddo
Woke vampire professor: Finally a worthy challenge
why?
😆😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤪👍
21:43 In Finland, we ”were strongly encouraged” (a.k.a. Had to) use ”Enricher”, instead of ”Immigrant”, for a short period, like, 15 years ago. Didn’t kick off.
Its still used in Germany but is in core Colonialism to keep control over a conquered region/governemnt/system. "Bereicherer" = Enricher. Housing problems, Jobloss are at peak level right now and they still want to invite the whole world on only 350.000 sqkm Land with already 85 Million people living in the land.
Its British/USA Colonialism. They do this to remain in power, for a people with no history and no land are easy to be governed.
USA and the King of England will never ever give up reign over Europe. People (also Migrants) believe England/USA are handing over Europe (or specifically Germany) to their arch-Enemys in/of the Orient/Mesopotamia. That will never happen.
The Migrants are cheering to early.
Bruh wtf is that. imagine calling someone an enricher just because they come from a different place lol. You can see that the people that encourage it , literally think ''but buuut immigration will safe the economy and give the country (them aka the encouragers) more money. They don't care about the populace.
Immigration doesn't link to better economy anyways.
The forcing of multiculturalism and so called ''tolerance'' (which is basically intolerate anyone who doesn't agree with you) is getting out of hand for a while now.
they came to enrich your women and their pockets
Thank both God, Ukko and goddamn Surma for that.
Lmao what a name for it
Different English speakers pronounce Rafael differently.
Some pronounce it as Rafael. Others pronounce it as Rafael.
Really? I pronounce it Rafael, never heard it pronounced Rafael
@@historygateyt I thought it was Rafael, too.
@@historygateytwe pronounce Rafael differently than "commonwealth" countries.
As a spanish speaker i pronounce it Rafael.
In Brazil we use Rafael too
13:06 "Availability Bias" A distortion that arises from the use of information which is most readily available, rather than that which is necessarily most representative. For example, if some future civilization only had access to our mass media, they would have a very mistaken idea of what we were actually like.
Yes. The interpretation would be we were all lawyers, doctors, and detectives.
I would imagine that in the past 100 or so years the availability bias for future historians is much less of a problem than in the past. Everyone can read and write, and paper isn't prohibitively expensive, so you don't need to be a member of the elite to write your thoughts down. And in the past 20-30 years with the internet there is no limit to how much we can express ourselves, not just in writing but images, videos etc. Although I don't know how much of contemporary media survives since so much of it is digital
@@exantiuse497 I mean even historically literacy was more common then most think. The issue was often paper or similar wasn't common and storage was most certainly not common. Why is the chunk of wood saying "took cows out to sunset field" worth keeping after all?
@@exantiuse497 Well much/most of it is online, so perhaps as long as the internet survives? Though there's probably some issue in the long term that will only become relevant in like 76 years
@@exantiuse497 Availability bias works in (at least) two ways. There is what is actually there to find, which is a much bigger problem in archeology for example, but there in the current ocean of information there is also what people can quickly recall.
There was an interesting study about this when Pew research asked people how many unarmed black people were taken out by cops per year. They categorised people as very conservative, conservative, progressive or very progressive and the options given were 0, 10, 100, 1.000 and 10.000.
The actual number according to the Washington Post was 25. Conservatives generally went for 10 or 100, but progressives mostly said 1.000 while very progressive people said either 1.000 or 10.000.
One of the explanations offered was availability bias because left leaning media focus heavily on every racial incident so most progressive people could sum up a list of news stories about unarmed black people getting taken out by cops.
I don’t understand why they keep framing Greek pederasty as a good thing when it’s such an abusive practice. Literally an older man abusing/grooming an underage boy.
Anything is acceptable when it agrees or can be used to help support 'the message'
They use idiots like this to justify their own current immoral behavior and political agendas.
@@Grandwigg Everything, all institutions, must reflect "the message.'
You just described 99% of homosexual activity.
...who's "they" here? In this video the expert literally says, "what today we'd consider a felony" clearly indicating he's not endorsing the practice whatsoever
Had I known about your channel at the time, I would have continued my studies. Thank you for fighting the good fight, Metatron.
What’s stopping you now?
You are a little older and better prepared now.
My cousin regularly scuba fishes off of Ischia aka the Greek colony of Pithekoussai. He's brings in lots of seafood. Hate to tell him that according to this professor, he's not really fishing.
Ah yes, scuba diving is how ancient people fished.
@@NoName-mi8js well no, but they certainly had fishing boats and nets. A technology so effective that it's still in use today.
@@NoName-mi8jsRomans used sea sponge as toilet paper, you don't catch them with fishing rods or nets. The ancient were capable of diving to some degree.
@@NoName-mi8js there are still fishers (primarily women) that fish by diving without equipment in eastern Asia (I think Taiwan) it is an ancient Tradition.
Cant ofcouse be compared with the Med but it should not be ruled out
I read the title of the video without paying much attention and misread wired professor to weird professor and had to re-read it 🤣
To be fair, prof is probably weird.
😂
I read weird as well....then I noticed it said wired.
I thought he was high on cocaine or something
Both are correct though, if an "expert" starts talking about sexual orientations of certain people then I'd say he's pretty weird
@@Dario.991 he was just answering the question, who's really weird is the person who asked it
Professors are specialists : If you're assigned topic specialization in society and cant get that 1 literal thing right, you should not be in that position.
I once worked with a VP of sales that never sold a thing.
The professors that do this kind of thing have as specialization the securing of grants/wining and dining donors.
You should educate yourself on this man
He has made leaps and advances in classics the like of which you will never even understand.
@@Dean-x5d He is an "expert" but the minoan art front and center in the presentation has less to do with the topic than Colosseum in a panel about Venice in 1500 AD.
To be polite about it, if his "leaps and advances" disappeared tomorrow, nobody would notice.
The video from 37:16 onward is metatron having a mental breakdown cause of wired
I was just going to comment this haha
Small preview at 27:54
If JFK was so great why did he die so young?
Or, Joan of Arc?
Or, Jesus?
Because of a Caracano rifle...allegedly
@yolkonut6851 but he wasn't great. The Cult of Personality around him and his family has greatly exaggerated his Presidency.
Definitely an evil wizard
I was thinking the same thing about the words enslaved person. They seem to think that calling the person a slave reflects on the identity of the person more than calling the person enslaved as an adjective. I wonder how much do all those "euphemisms" increase the word count of secondary school essays.
The word count doubles while the BS factor goes up tenfold.
Additionally, you're not even a "person" if you're enslaved.
People experiencing homelessness. Unhoused.
@@BqgWyy Well I'm definitely unhoused, and unflatted/unapartmented as well for that matter. But ;while technically [according to the council] I'm homeless I also have a roof over my head, central heating [yaay, only the second place with central heating in 40 years], living space and separate bedrooms.
Euphemisms are getting seriously out of hand at this stage [I'm as unhoused as the other 2 families living around me, we all live in mobile homes in someone's back garden]
Ah, yes. The time-honoured tradition of BS'ing as much as possible to meet the word count requirement. 😂
"In harms way" that's the phrase you're looking for
So how can you take Greek Olympics seriously if they didn't have a break dancing event? lol
If they were naked, I doubt women were spectators, and nudity in the gymnasium, not the German gymnasium, was obviously an all male event.
"Not great for fishing?" Tell the sailors who Marinara sauce was created! In Turi, Bari where my family is from, they eat fresh, raw fish with raw vegetables for breakfast with lemon and olive oil. Unless, they were still dreaming and thought they were eating fish? Also, Basilica di San Nicola where my bisnonno Vincenzo Gigantelli died working on the marble tomb, was created for the body of San Nicola who was saved by the Barese merchants and brought his bones to Italy where all great saints belong!
That statement baffled me, as I am a sports fisherman. The fish population has declined in the Mediterranean, but already back in the eighties when I fished there, there were a huge abundance of fish, especially different seabreams and tuna. This was after the population had already declined, but in ancient time the fish population must have been huge.
It's one of those things where a professor steps outside his expertise and repeats something wrong without having any experience. Then people like you (you fished there) and me (I was brought up there) that actually know how the Mediterranean is get very confused. Academics should not do this but they do, a lot.
Bari is on the Adriatic where the water is cooler than the open water of the Mediterranean, especially in the southern Mediterranean
Ayy gotta love the name Vincenzo
@@DaveReece-u4b It doesn't mattter, there's lots of fish all over. People around the Mediterranean eat lots of fish and seafood now and they pretty much always have. It being a relatively poor place to fish is just nonsense in any other context than modern commercial ocean fishing, which is not really valid when we're talking about ancient history.
As a Greek, I am tired of hearing how "accepted" same sex relationships were in ancient Greece. It simply isn't true, why are these people so fixated on shoehorning that in every video? Also, I dont understand why he would say that fishing in the Mediterranean is subpar, Greece in modern times is known for its great seafood.
It is just an Anglo perspective from a Puritan society with heaps of hangups.
@Ponto-zv9vf It's the opposite. It's the view from a degenerate society with misguided guilt thrust upon them.
Puritans wouldn't be eagerly creating propaganda of how the founders of western philosophy were fond of man on boy butsecks
Because a lot of Greeks not only had no issue with it but had institutionalized same sex relationships.
The real issue is greece is not a monolith and someone was Theban, Athenian, and Spartan before being greek, so making blanket statements is stupid.
On fish, it's because it is subpar. The med catches smaller fish at a lower rate than the good fishing places.
@@itshunni8346 Incorrect. It was never "a lot". It was always very few.
@Droid6689 No, it was a lot because greece changed its opinion several times and different cities and cultural groups had very different ideas about it. Sparta and athens are the best example. Athens was never pro homosexuality but for a long time never persecuted it. That changed over centuries. On the other hand it was always accepted in Sparta and became core to a male Citizens lifestyle.
Perception in most city states depended on station. A wealthy man was perfectly able to take a male lover, it was fine, supported even. But a poor citizen or non citizen could not.
Greek views on homosexuality are complex, rootes in social, cultural, and economic norms unique to specific city states and regional cultures.
I get literally 2 seconds in and this dingus says " The Mediterranean is not a good place to fish." How to sound like a fool right off the bat! Where do they find some of these people? I am certain that 2K years ago it must have been a fisherman's paradise. Even today with rampant over-fishing and ecological damage of insane proportions it still yields a great bounty. Sorry I was so stunned by the statement I had to make an immediate comment.
...I mean Metatron is deliberately editing the video out of order to show the most "controversial" parts first to grab your attention. The quote itself actually came from near the end of the video.
Your point about him saying a silly thing is valid, but just correcting you that it wasn't like he said that incorrect thing right away
@@pacmonster066I think he realized that from the big “Later on in this video” text
I’m sure that some parts of the Mediterranean like off the coast of Libya are not a good place to fish. Lydia has been unable to use fishing to feed their people even with their small population so they have to import their food.
@@coolmanyea5030...where are you reading that in the OP's statement?
@@pacmonster066 OP's "statement" was already an hour old by the time you replied to it?
Regarding homosexuality in ancient Greece: From what I've gathered, Greeks were relatively tolerant towards sexual relations between men relative to other ancient cultures, however the idea that there was some sort of egalitarian attitude towards sexuality is completely ludicrous. A man was allowed to do it with either gender as long as he or she wasn't a citizen. Relations involving penetration between citizen men was a taboo, especially for the passive partner, and if the passive partner was an adolescent citizen boy it was an insult towards his family.
Pederasty was a romantic relationship between a boy and a man but it wouldn't usually involve (penetrative) sex, that was a taboo even in the context of pederasty
When it comes to same-sex relations between women, it apparently didn't carry the same stigma as male to male relations, mainly because the Greeks, being an extremely male-centric society even by ancient standards, didn't necessarily consider sexual activity between women to be sex at all. Whether it was common is not known, the society wouldn't have encouraged it but if a woman was so inclined most people probably didn't care
It is very silly to me that left-leaning people are trying to portray ancient Greece as some sort of paragon of sexual egalitarianism when it was anything but
And also the "territory" of the Ancient Greeks they like to say. Ancient Greeks ah equals to LGBt! Men with boys, women with girls!! Bla bla bla again and again and again... But they never mentioned, Ancient Ionians, Byzantium, Cyprus, Carthage, Black Sea Kingdoms, Krimea, that's an Ancient Greek word Krimea... Those areas are also part of the larger Greek world. No LGbt over in those places?? No "Ancient Greeks" in those places?? Ah we know the reason, they can't say that. Modern day Turkish, Russians and Muslims will roast their hides if they even say a word about LbGt on their ancestors... Modern day Greeks and Italians are those are our "punching bags" yea...
I hate how people talk about “ancient Greeks” like they were some monolith, like you just did.
@@jbatts834you mean, like how the left does?
@@Crimea_River Your literally part of the problem along with this professor that he’s talking about, your forcing modern politics into history which making your analysis bias. Modern day left & right is irrelevant to my comment, and the fact that’s what you reply to my comment with shows how brainwashed you are🤦♂️
@@Crimea_River Wrong generalizations are wrong generalizations, no amount of modern tribalism being dumb justifies it.
This isn't really the channel to say "but they do it too!" on.
"The Odyssey" was one of my favorite books I read in school that I bought a hardbound version that I still re-read forty-five years later. "A Tale of Two Cities" is another I had to have in my collection.
Telemachos
It's a big long. The trip back to his home town takes way too long.
Too many academics these days subject their subject matter beneath their ideological biases. Ideology is more important than truth.
In most cases their entire careers depend upon reflecting the correct ideological bias in their work. That needs to end.
This isn’t a recent development, McCarthyism? How many faculty in the 60’s were protestors and took that activism back to the lecture hall.
@@c1ph3rpunk Yes, you're right.
I studied Child Development in the 1970s and read about research that found children were most likely to be well adjusted if there were an adult male and female in the family (not necessarily father and mother). Could such a study be cited today?
@@missanne2908 I doubt it.
4:40 The movie 300 is essentially a story told in the perspective of the Spartan soldiers. Of course they would see themselves as awesome and amazing.
It's based on a novel actually
@@GothPaoki based off a novel, which I believe is still told in the perspective of the Spartans. I’ve watched the movie religiously with my stepdad and brothers, but I haven’t read the book.
@@macklyon7476 it's basically adapted page to page by snyder so there's nothing important missing from the movie.
Movie 300, the other side will see it as Evil Spartans massacring fathers and sons of Persia! Many wives and sisters and mothers will cry that they can't see their loved ones...
They all died, so how can they be so amazing and awesome.
After watching to minute 38 I thought I started to have a stroke 😆
They don't get the best experts; they get the best person who calls themselves an expert _and_ who is willing to show up.
I thought he was okay, the fishing thing, the nudity, the pederasty were all wrong.
Thank you sir for what you do... as a Greek dude I appreciate you for setting the record straight...
Metatron not only doesn't play by the rules of Wired, he doesn't even care about following rules when editing. This man is truly off the leash! He is too powerful now 😮
He has TH-cam channels, it is not a game or sport. I never heard of Wired, so he enlightened me.
5:40 "Alexander very often put himself in harms way" was the phrase you were looking for.
Never go up against a Sicilian when truth is on the line!
Lmao.. yes.. ❤
In my mind, the words "enslaved" or "slave" means essentially the same thing. so I never even questioned the idea
I believe the idea is that "slave" is dehumanising and the "person" in "enslaved person" is supposed to remind you that slaves are/were people. IMO that's condescending, as if we didn't understand slaves are people if the word doesn't remind us, plus the word bloat from having to add the word "person" every time is a hassle
They do mean the same thing.
Don’t fall victim to leftist mind games.
Homeless vs. unhoused is another ridiculous attempt to control our speech.
@@exantiuse497 Yes; that's academic-speak.
@@exantiuse497 Exactly. The counterpart is calling the slaveowner an "enslaver" on the theory that no one can own someone else. But what makes the institution so dehumanizing is precisely that one person *could* own another person. Not to mention that an enslaver is someone who takes another into slavery (e.g., the ruling tribes of Dahomey), not the person who buys or several generations inherits a person born into slavery.
Yes, but why use enslaved when the person is a slave. Doesn't make sense.
Biologist in learning here, i have no idea what the hell he's on about with the Mediterranean being hot and therefore not great for fishing, coastal warm seas are abundant with fish and marine life. It's genuinely baffling that he says it, like it should be common snese that the Mediterranean is known for fishing
THANK YOU! I was really worried about how I was going to break the prof’s news to the fishing fleets and charters around the Florida peninsula and Gulf of Mexico. I guess they never got the memo 😂
I think he means that the Mediterranean Sea loses more via evaporation than it gains from rivers, the Black Sea and rainfall. It is the Atlantic Sea that keeps the Mediterranean sea from disappearing and leaving nothing but salt behind.
@@Ponto-zv9vfwhat does that have to do with the Mediterranean not being a good place to fish fish?
he says he loves Aristotle, but apparently doesn't know what Aristotle thought about "malakia"
its funny because 300 at least the movie did actually have a segment showing Leonidas killing a Helot. They did not spare the idea that Spartans were brutal at all.
So the Black African man was Persian? I didn't see the film, not my thing, the butchery of history.
When does Leonidas kill a Helot is 300? When were Helots even mentioned? You're misremembering...
@@Ben-zr4ho You know I just checked...and whoops, you are correct, I did misremember! Turns out the scene I was thinking of was in a documentary released around the same time (totally not aping the movies cinematography, lol). My bad! Still, the movies opening makes a pretty strong case of the Spartans upbringing being very brutal and not really in all that favorable of a light, but more in the stoic thats what happened kind of way, even if its obviously exaggerated.
You never know what can happen yesterday
Yeah. We will never know how g4y, bulakk and non-binary Hitler really was.
Yeah. We will never know how g4y, bulakk and non-binary H°tler really was.
Yeah. We will never know how "geih", "bulakk" and "non-bye nary" H°tler really was.
It's not Wired, well not entirely. It's the university system that those professors came from.
Sure but WIRED seems to specifically hand pick those people who are willing to push an agenda. I’ve seen channels where you get both. WIRED is clearly only pushing one side.
It's absolutely Wired. They pick these goofball professors for a reason.
@@StratumPress Who financially supports Wired?
It is abaolutely Wired.
Contrary to the anti-academic talking points many people spread nowadays, not all professors/academics are liberals who try to push their leftwing ideals at the expense of the truth. In my experience (conservative-leaning man and doctoral student) there are hyper-liberals, ultraconservatives and everything in between in academia. Liberals might be the plurality (out of liberals/centrists/conservatives) but not the majority let alone the totality.
The myth that all academics are liberals pushing their ideology comes from, on one hand, conservative anti-academics trying to discourage people from going to university by claiming it turns people into liberals, and on the other hand liberal media which has a selection bias and only gives a voice to liberal academics. Most people try to find the truth, they may have biases that affect their conclusions but actual faking or intentional misrepresentation of facts isn't common
@@exantiuse497 Are all academics Progressives? (I won't stain the word liberal here.) As you've said, of course not, but Progressives run the collegiate show, and the evidence is everywhere, right down to an obscure art college in Minnesota. Furthermore Political Correctness (a philosophy that's inherently niggardly about vocabulary) is literally the product of the extreme Progressive Left.
Worse is that it is an obvious application of the Orwellian Newspeak concept, i.e. if you change the language so that certain things can't be conceived, let alone expressed (the current, Stage One phase of elimination), then those things will be forgotten. Likewise, the collegiate Progressives keep trying to rewrite history to suit their current opinions, a la the 1619 (disinformation) Project.
You can't sever the connection between the collegiate Progressive Left from Metatron's complaints about historical revisionism and linguistic censorship. Correcting things like the Lost Cause? Have at, because I hate deception in history, but 1619-type revisionism and social oppression for "good causes", as evidenced here? NNBFN! How about you educate yourself about the problems and wake up? he said ironically.
I had no idea you were also a Mutant Ninja Turtle Metatron but after seeing many of your weapon skill videos we probably should have suspected you can handle twin sai.😉
In all seriousness, I love these videos of you reviewing historical media of all kinds and keeping them honest. Love it!
I was just watching your videos and you post another one, love it! Thank God we have you to expose those "professors" lol
5:42 The phrase is "put yourself in harms way"
Had some overlapping tracks at 37:10 and more at later moments as well.
Hey thank you for watching that far in the video! Yeah there is a doubling I hadn't noticed. Apologies for that.
oh boy oh boy, its my favorite time of the week, its time for a metatron rant!
I spit out my food when he said the Mediterranean wasn't good for fishing. Damn that's ignorant.
In the grand scheme of the worlds oceans, the Mediterranean isn’t great for fishing.
@@lambchop83 the Mediterranean is warm and free of storms for most of the year and you can take a 12-foot boat and fish all year long. Before the late middle ages, no culture on earth had the technology to fish in open oceans. No, not even the Vikings.
@lambchop83 mmmm except for the millions and millions of tons of sardines and anchovies that come out of there right ?
@@impudentdomain Ah, yes. Ancient people had modern day fish-trawlers.
He's right. Don't come to the Mediterranean to fish. It's horrible here. Go elsewhere. Anywhere. The far away the better. Try south Pacific.
Fun fact, Eratosthenes calculated the north-south circumference of the earth (because he was in egypt at that time) and not the equatorial one, reason why he's a little bit off (like 500 kms).
He probably thought the Earth is a perfect sphere, and why wouldn't he?
I’ve been WAITING for you to react to this, thank you Metatron 🙏
As a Christian (and a fan of TMNT), growing up,
I had always pronounced it
“Raf-AYE-el, not “Raf-EE-el”.
I don’t know where he learned this.
Didn't even know people even pronounced it like Raf-EE-el for the longest time. Was always Raf-AYE-el to me.
@@ragingsmurfling7205 funny, because both pronunciations are wrong, although AYE is much closer than EE. It would be Raf-AH-el, but short AH and all together, just like you say 'cat' instead of c-AY-t, it shouldn't have that Y / EE sound after the AH sound, very much like the word 'fat' and slightly different than the sound in 'cut'.
I don’t understand why this is framed as some sort of exposé of this professors video. Metatron agrees with 85-90% of what he says.
It's my first time this early, love your videos Metatron. Your dedication to the truth and preservation of knowledge is admirable. Keep speaking the truth and fighting against misinformation, we really appreciate the research and effort you put into this.
Go get em, Metatron
I will brother
I dont know how I came across your channel recently, but I am so happy that I did. You have quickly become one of my favorites and I just wanted to say thank you.
There's even a legend Alexandros was assassinated by Perdikkas ordered by Hefaision because he saw Alexandros holding hands with Poros instead of him.
Thanks!
"Excess in all things is the undoing of man."
- Aristotle -
"Moderation in all things including moderation."
- Oscar Wilde -
I love pairing these 2 quotes.😁
Our undoing seems to be scarcity now, a fear regime.
I say: Balance brings health. ... But maybe Wilde had the most accurate one, because variety also enriches the soul.
@@Dowlphin What do you think created the scarcity?
@@UncleMikeDrop Obsession with efficiency, to do ever-more with ever-less, and a ruling class sucking ever-more wealth out of society since they lacked love in their upbringing and are now rampantly trying to substitute that emotional lack with material wealth and dominating influence. This is also why the green movement has a love affair with big industry as long as it buys into the shared pain: Both are acting like we have to be super-stingy with our resource use, i.e. severe focus on symptom management.
Abundance in all things is manifested through love, and it is a win-win because along that abundance created, people will also become less greedy/needy, thus amplifying the potency of that abundance.
Didn't almost all great people died at a relatively young age? I mean, if you engaged in battle constantly, and when life expectancy was already around the 40s maybe, 30 years is already quite a number even if you lived a peaceful life.
Apparently medicine really jumped through the roof in the somewhere between the 17 and 18 century.
Before... you could have a healthy body, be the epitome of fitness and still die to some random pos disease, as if the gods themself smited you down.
Life expectancy averages were heavily skewed by a large rate of infant mortality. If you account for that, the average goes up to, I believe, around the mid to late 60s. Still young by today's standards, but not nearly as extreme as 40.
Joan of Arc wouldn't be old enough to buy a pack of smokes or a beer in the US at the age she died.
Life expectancy was not around 40s. This number includes massive death rate for newborns back in a day.
@@marcz2903that’s not skewed. It’s how life expectancy is determined.
11:54 It was basically don't ask don't tell. Don't parade it around etc...
Yeah pretty much. Plus it’s ABSURD to say “the ancient Greeks did this or were open to that or considered it the purest form of love” when you are ONLY talking about a few elites. Could you imagine doing that today? Elon Musk is obsessed with the letter X hence all Americans in the 21st century regarded the letter X as the best letter in the alphabet. Then repeat this a hundred times and here we are.
We are also fond of the letter 'z'. 'x' is more popular for the start of words, and 'z' for the ends usually replacing an 's'
The movie 300 is perfectly accurate to what it is - a visualization of a campfire story told by a Spartan to other soldiers on the night before a for a battle. That's the point of the story. Realistic enough to be believed by people living back then and full of idealized iconic moments. That's the entire point of the movie, that's why the very first and very last scenes are there.
alexander was the embodient of sid viscious' mantra: live fast, die young
Alexander the Great and Sid Vicious? The mind boggles.
@Ponto-zv9vf again, live fast, die young, draw some blood
Are these not things they shared??
What has the age at which someone died has to do with his greatness? If anything doing what Alexander the great did in just the time before his 33 birthday makes him even more impressive!
There is no logic to what is politically incorrect, by definition it is about what would upset people, so if a word upsets someone it can become politically incorrect. Currently if someone thinks something might upset a protected group they can push that to be censored.
Which is why it's contextualized within the Overton window for that era and that society, it doesn't have a specific logical definition but more of a general form of puritanism regarding ideas, with said form (shape) being filled by what's not acceptable.
"You can't say that" is the primordial cry of the 'good and righteous' politically/religiously/socially correct person.
The problem is that it changes with the wind. And the French Revolution is a guide, even Robespierre got the chop.
Surprised that the non-Persian Persian ambassador in "The 300" didn't get a callout.
So basically:
WIRED: rarely got anything right at all but keep on doing it for the $$$
History Hit: ok most of the time -at least they know what they're doing
History hit and Wired are in totally different leagues from what I've seen. The History hit professors have been alright, Metatron ripped hard on the Egypt guy for giving a smartass answer to that one question but overall he was fine, and the middle ages professors was perfectly decent with no real complaints. Neither of them made any judgement based on modern ideals or otherwise tried to push any sort of ideology
@@exantiuse497 History Hit is "hit or miss" - they have extremly good experts - like Roel "the ditch guy".
Others are so/so and others are just bad.
I still remember the "expert" on Rome who told in the first two minutes that Romans believed that illnesses were caused by magic.
Didn't bother to watch the rest it obviously.
This WIRED historian wasn't remotely that bad.
@@_Lax_ this professor was absolutely fine apart from his fishing knowledge. The comment section is discussing slave or enslaved, which has nothing to do with his expertise. The why did Alexander died so young when he was so great thing was the question and not his answer. The homosexual relationship stuff: nothing he said was wrong. Metatron thought it was incomplete. Fine. But it wasn’t deliberately giving false information. Most of his answers were that good that the commentary was just “the Romans did that, too“. I can’t defend the fishing bullshit, but this guy was a knowledgeable expert in his field and really tried to answer the questions.
17:50 And this explain the Chris de Burgh song "Don't Pay The Ferryman" from 1982.
Don't pay the ferryman, until he gets you to the other side.
The average temperature in February on my Greek island is 7°C (44.6°F).
Who in his right mind will go outside naked at those temperatures?
Finns?
@@oz_jones Indeed. But not Greeks.
I would, for a few seconds and after a sauna.
Also, I thought the bronze statues were not that tall like in Odyssey.
It’s good your calling people like this out
And I'll keep doing it! Thanks
Sure, but this doesn't make a dent in how ideological infested modern academia is.
@@speckbretzelfan yeah I know but I’m just pointing it out
13:20 and 17:56 deserve their own investigative video, IMO. The idea that the Library of Alexandria was burnt down erased so much history sounds like an epic tragedy, but the more you dig into it, the more you realise it’s similar to saying Sparta dissolved around 300 BC without mentioning that by then, Sparta was already significantly weakened and no longer a major power. Likewise, the library was defunded and damaged multiple times over the centuries, and no-one ever bothered to maintain it simply because pagan and Christian knowledge weren’t considered the same.
At university, we briefly discussed the movie 300, but it was as an example of how history is used commercially, we did not view it as a representation of how things were, the movie got some small things right, like the spartans marching to flutes, that other greek soldiers was massed levies, not full time soldiers, but it was so glossed over by over the top dialogue, action and black and white morality that any semblance to real life history was swept away by the tidal wave of "Oh glorious greece and Spa-a-a-ar-ta!".
When you look at it if it is an accurate retelling of history, it's obviously not going to be, but when you look at it if is an accurate retelling of the tale of 300 Spartans, then it is much better.
The best argument I have heard for the accuracy of 300 it that its supposed to be the Spartan survivor telling his fellows about the battle with a lot of fervor such that it turned int oa fantasy story.
Ah the movie was a litteral non-history movie. It's like taking a Japanese anime or some Samurai game and say ah thats the history of Japan! I don't really remembered much details about the 300 movie. But I can still remember some glaring errors inthat film. Too many Blacks on the Persian Empire side, no Greeks or Slavics, ie White men among em. Although we knew many Greek kingdoms from Byzantium to Thebes have joined up to invade Sparta by that point. And ofcoz! The Persian King Xerxes is not a Brazilian model with piercings bro! He should be wearing something like what Sumerian/Babylonian arts are showing. With long beard too...
Oh no, you’re SNL skit “Marble Columns”. 😂. Great commentary, keep it up
funny gymnasium is still a common word in Germany well nice to know we call our advanced schools "the nude place"
Sweden as well
In Spanish it’s similar too. We call it gimnasio.
It's probably funny to an English speaker to know we got our education in the gym.
Switzerland too.
@@Snoy_Fly Really? I was under the impression Spanish "gimnasio" means "fitness centre", not a school for higher education.
Which branch of society asked: If Alexander was so great, why did he die at 32?
Ah yes, the common era. The era that was so common because of that…thing.
😂 they're a bunch of abdulla suckers.
All centered around the, uh... event.
The Greeks were aware of the earth being a sphere by looking at the moon,. They also observed the earth's shadow on the moon.
I’m on team BC/AD. But I appreciate that even the “Common Era” crowd recognizes the Common Era began with little baby Jesus🤣
The whole pretense of "not wanting to offend" increasingly smaller portions of the total population is ultimately ridiculous.
I'm a big fan of the alternate common era chronology, which is set from the birth of JC. No, the other JC: Julius Caesar. And since he was born 100 years before the other JC, the current year would be 2124 instead of 2024. It's also a good idea from the point of view of the end of the roman republic, since most political violence is dated to that century, and much rarer before then.
It's like saying happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas - what's that holiday you're talking about?
@@aszechy well, some of us come from different places and religions. for example, my family are hindus, I was raised as one, and while living in the US I converted to judaism for a couple of years, so the holiday I celebrated at that date was hanuka. You have to remember that if you live in the US, you live in the modern day US, not the old time US, today even chistian children expect Santa Claus instead of some christian miracle. It's worth mentioning too that, although forgotten in america, other countries still remember that the US (and many other republics of that era) was founded by 'not-quite-religious' enlightenment philosophers that were fleeing puritan christians in Europe, of the sort that Cromwell would have represented a century before, you know, Oliver Cromwell, the guy who kicked the monarchy out of England and banned all Christmas celebrations that were not explicitly focused on the birth of Jesus. The freedom of religion that the US was based around was to prevent those things from becoming political, like both sides are doing today, and in my opinion the US should to back to having an enlightenment based culture, instead of a puritan christian or puritan socialist (pc, sjw, woke, etc.) culture. Sociocultural wars destroy societies, just ask the romans if you can find any...
I prefer using BCE and CE because there is a calculation error in the system to avoid the misunderstanding that "little baby Jesus" was indeed born in year one.
*World of Antiquity* made a good video about this topic, see *Am I Too "Woke" for Saying CE and BCE?*
Sure Alexander put himself in harms way, but is that not usual for hellenistic rulers? I think that I remember at least Antigonos Monophtalmos (?) And Demetrios Poliorketes did and also Phillip II and Phyrrus
35:47 Absolute ignorance. The Mediterranean produces the most flavorful fisheries on the planet and nations around the sea have a huge culinary culture based on them.
I know right? Sounds like he has never been… imagine my thoughts, I was brought up there!!!
Personally I would say “one of the most flavorful” with Florida and the US Gulf Coast, Red Sea, Indo-Pacific, and many other places also being high on the list along with the Mediterranean, and Aegean (though some might consider that part of the Med)
Classic example of an “expert” thinking he has authority to speak on topics outside his own specialty and being 100% wrong.
Your end tripped me out for a sec 😆😆😆
I already knew what it was when he slid that mention of “oppression” in there. They always have to mention oppression, if they can. There’s a specific reason for this and it’s usually about deconstruction.
When I hear that word I stop listening.
Oh, yes. Divide and conquer is the primary tactic of a particular ideology's worldview. Believing themselves to always be fighting for the "underdog."/s
To be fair though, the Spartan treatment of the Helot majority was pretty barbaric.
@@stevencoardveniceYep. Every year, the Spartans would even recite a speech why they had authority over the Helots.
Not that their society actually lasted that long considering how dysfunctional it was structured. There’s a whole informative video on how the Spartan system disenfranchised even Spartans, turning even them into nothing better than Helots.
That takes a ton of guts to boast to a conquered people how we’ve taken your land and made you our slaves. It’s as badass as it’s callous.
Makes me wonder if that speech influenced the Reaping in the Hunger Games.
@@ByTheStorm interesting. Like a bizarre star trek episode that society
Alexander might not be that great at living a long life, but he was definitely very great at conquering the entire known world 😂
37:40 Sounds like you're having a heated argument with the guy
Illuminating as usual Metatron. Gratze
"the Mediterranean sea isn't good for fishing" might be the most ignorant thing anyone has ever said on any subject.
"yeah, these people who's diet is 70% from the sea, their sea wasn't good for fishing."
It wasn't 70% from the sea
@MarkelMathurin it must have been pretty close.
Actually, according to at least one prominent scholar of the subject (ESOTERICA, if you're interested), the reason early Semitic languages didn't include vowels was out of religious respect; to the people of the time, words had power whether spoke or writen, enough power that to write the name of a thing was to invoke and potentially insult them. This is why all we know of the name of the Abrahamic god is YHWH, as no one was willing to write the whole thing down for fear of invoking His wrath.
The movie 300 was accurate to its source material. The problem is that said source material was a graphic novel that took a LOT of liberties on actual history.
A novel is not the basis of history.
@@Ponto-zv9vf I know that. You know that. This guy didn't.
If Caesar was a “great general” than why did he get jumped and faded by 60 senators?
Indeed the Spartans were the most armored of the Greeks. They even had red cloaks, and if Warhammer has taught me nothing else, that means they all moved faster
>wore red
>carried swords
>swords are just big knives
My God, think of how fast they must have been
That the people in medieval times all thought the earth is flat is a nonsense that still a lot of people think it was the case, today. In fact that nonsense came from someone with the catholic church who seems to believe it (so you can call that guy an early flat earth believer). Even if the chuch itself knew it was round and not flat. I struggle to find the name of that person.but even most of the ordinary people had an idea that the earth was round, just by looking at the horizon, Even more those living close to the sea when they watched ships that sailed into the sund and then "disappeared" beyond the horizon.
The was the idea that people on the "other side" might have walked crouched, but to say everyone during the medi eval period believed that the earth was flat is pure nonsense. SOME did!
"300 Spartans" was a lot closer than "300"
Few have seen that movie.
@@joemadden4160 I think I saw it in high school which would have been in the 60's. It is available on line I think but as you say not many are familiar with it.
I have that on dvd. It's closer to History than 300.
36:00 - "They didn't have a lot of animal livestock, so they didn't eat a lot of meat."
Then how do you justify what you just said earlier about the Olympics?
23-40 - "On the third day of the Olympics, They would have a sacrifice where they killed 100 cows, a huge all day long BBQ that included a lot of drinking." Where did all those cows come from then? Raising that many cows for slaughter every 4 years sounds like a massive undertaking, at least to me. It made your later claim seem rather dubious, and quite the contradiction. 這些都矛盾!
One of those statements is false, professor. They can't both be right.
If you can get a degree out of a cereal box like these people maybe I should give it a shot.
@@longshotkdb They give you a piece of paper which can double as toilet paper after the fall of our civilization to this nonsense. The stuff could be worth a pretty penny then!
Cereal box? This guy got his Bachelors from Dartmouth, a Masters from CUNY and PhD from Columbia.
@@DaveReece-u4bAre these types of cornflakes?
Do they come with 'magic' colour changing spoons?
@@TheBayru How dare you mock such a fine institution of higher learning and discipline! Lol
@@longshotkdbGood question. Maybe they were thinking of 'the hustle.'
The Mediterranean Sea is an extremely good place for fishing which is why it has many apex predators such as Great White Sharks, Hammerheads, Blue Sharks, Mako Sharks, Bluefin Tuna
Alexander's greatness could not be contained within his mortal shell :P
'wired' , another revisionist propaganda channel
good to see you put them on blast metatron
They are on my radar now 👍🏻
The Greeks had an Empire, it fell in 1453
Greeks Dominated the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire was led by glittering Constantinople for over a thousand years. There was never a Byzantine empire….and there was never a split into two separate empires, ,….one western and one eastern. There was only ever ONE Roman Empire.
24:42 “Greek has been spoken in the Balkan peninsula since around the 3rd millennium BC, or possibly earlier. The earliest written evidence is a Linear B clay tablet found in Messenia that dates to between 1450 and 1350 BC, making Greek the world's oldest recorded living language.”
“The Dispilio tablet is a wooden tablet bearing inscribed markings, unearthed during George Hourmouziadis's excavations of Dispilio in Greece, and carbon 14-dated to 5202 (± 123) BC.[1] It was discovered in 1993 in a Neolithic lakeshore settlement that occupied an artificial island[2] near the modern village of Dispilio on Lake Kastoria in Kastoria, Western Macedonia, Greece.” ….ωικιρεδια
…” The Greek language is ranked as the richest in the world with 5 million words and 70 million word types! Greek roots are often used to coin new words for other languages, especially in the medicine and sciences. Greek words and word elements continue to be productive as a basis for coinages: anthropology, photography, biomechanics, telephony, isomer, cinematography, etc. An estimated 12% of the English vocabulary has a Greek origin. …”
…”Greek was once considered the “language of knowledge” for intellectuals and philosophers throughout Europe. Many great minds wrote their most important works in Greek before translating them into other tongues…”
“Everyone has to learn Greek, because it is through Greek that one can understand one’s own language.” …Jacqueline de Romillyn
“….Today, the modern Greek people still sometimes use, in addition to the terms "Greeks" and "Hellenes", the Byzantine (Roman) term "Romaioi," or "Romioi," ("Romans") to refer to themselves, as well as the term "Romaic" ("Roman") to refer to their Modern Greek language….”
“….Today, the modern Greek people still sometimes use, in addition to the terms "Greeks" and "Hellenes", the Byzantine (Roman) term "Romaioi," or "Romioi," ("Romans") to refer to themselves, as well as the term "Romaic" ("Roman") to refer to their Modern Greek language….”
The expression you wanted to say was "He would put himself into harms way" 5:53
harm's way
Man what the hell happened to the ending of this video?
It looks like its been deep fried.
"In harm's way"
You'd say Alexander put himself 'in harm's way'.
Nudity for athletes was instituted for the Olympic games for religious reasons. The comperitors were required to be male. After a competitor was discovered to be a woman clothes wee baned to prevent further sacrilege.
Ah, yes, the ancient "if ya cock doesn't flop, you don't get a spot" rule, how can one forget...
I've heard that story before but am quite sure that's an urban legend. As said in the video, they've also trained naked in the gymnasium. And it wouldn't be necessary to perform publicly naked if it was the reason to prohibit women from taking part, a strip search would suffice. It doesn't seem very convincing to me that they've been wearing cloths before and would completely change it just because one incident.
It could be that flowing robes might hamper their sporting ability.
@@Ponto-zv9vf I would think that it was a factor. That is also why exercise and bathing were done naked although both were done in a segregated environment. Attendents didn't count, nude patritian women bathers could be served refreshments by male attendents.
There was a sense of purity, lack of distractions, associated with nudity. The games had an audience of thousands of clothed spectators which other nude activities didn't.
@@Spielkalb-von-Sparta I think nudity as proof of not being a "male impersonator" was a traditional part of the games. The games had a religious component and male only was certainly part of that. The actual incident of female intrusion likely happened but maybe not. The lack of details ( what woman, from what city ) does not support it being an actual event.
There are other reasons for nudity such as purity in the sense of absence of distraction.
If I'm not mistaken, the paint on the Parthenon was visible with the naked eye until the 17th or 18th century i.e. the beginning of the Industrial Revolution or just before.