One tip is to set the sensitivity higher and dont hit as hard. I have my kit set that way, but im not mainly a drummer but a guitarplayer and i use the kit mainly as a studio tool.
I've learned that, like you said towards the end, if I pull back on my playing just a bit it helps reduce the amount of sound my e-druns produce. That, on top of using the tennis ball beater from Kat, rim guards and lighter sticks (5A's down from 5A extreme/Power 5B's) and adjusting the sensitivity on the module just a bit, so that lighter hits produce a louder response, has really really helped me keep the noise levels from my kit at next to nothing. I've also experimented with those cheap window decals, that are made from moongel like materials but only cost $1 for a huge pack at the dollar store, and with placing them on the outer edge of the drum and other random spots and that seemed to actually cut down on some of the resonance also but actually getting them to stay put for longer than two songs was the actual challenge lol. What also works for me, since I live in an apartment and my drums are in my bed room and since my bedroom is directly underneath my neighbors bedroom, is if I'm playing during a time I know he's home or if it's later at night and I just gotta work some piece Ive been running through my head I'll actually make sure that I turn the t.v. on in my bedroom and turn it up to a point that really helps mask the sound or blend the sound into its own mix. I don't blast it or anything, I just keep it at a volume thay helps deaden the sound and it really helps quite a bit
Always really like your videos but LOVE THAT SHIRT! I'm from Cleveland, dont live there anymore but went back for game 7 to watch them win that championship and had the best time of my life!
I have an alesis nitro I haven't played in like, 2 years because ultimately I didn't want to annoy the other people in my house. These tips are going to be SO helpful to get me playing and learning more. Also, 7:17 "back it up a little bit(ch)" 😆
Good tips on an important topic for real life when we share living quarters. Also - maybe - Wear a headset - keep volume UP (but not ear damaging!) and this automatically "encourages" us to physically hit the pads a little softer.
great video as always, I often play my drum kit at around 3am therefore volume is paramount, Agree 100% yamaha DTX silicone pads are the quietest. > DRUM PEDAL, easily the quietest would be something like the roland KT-9 beaterless kick pedal, only problem is its its not a real pedal and does feel different but yes its quiet. I have not tried this but roland KD-7 looks quiet as well. Another option is to always skip leg day and play heel down. >Sticks, try 7A etc >The room itself, try mattresses etc around the room. >The volume you play your electric kit, i.e the volume you have set your drum module at, if you turn the thing up all the way to 11 you do tend to play louder. Go Cavs
If anyone has volume issues, just try the Lidwish Solutions Drumsticks!! Highly reccommended! In addition, I'm using the Roland KT-10 kick drum pedal as a bass drum replacement.
Unfortunately there are no super secret tips. You are hitting something with sticks and kicking something as hard as you can. The laws of physics are in play here. At the end of the day, if you are commited to lower volume, use smaller drum pads. Also Yamaha DTX Silicon drums tend to be the quietest on the market. And just hit less hard.
Great video man, glad you mentioned the volume thing because it is real, in acoustic kits you have a bigger "feedback" when you hit the pieces, in edrums if you have you volume low, you won't have that much of a consequence. Great stuff man, would like to hear from you about the Zildjian L80 with trigger's.
The Roland KT-10 is a good option for a quieter kick drum. I own two of them and they are quieter than a kick tower and have a solid feel. The Roland KT-9 is silent and I mean silent. I have two of them and they trigger well but the feel is 1/10.
Great vid. I have had some success with those gel floor mats they sell for people who stand a lot. They absorb some of the shock going down into the floor from the rack and under you pedals. Not too expensive. I cut mine into a few pieces to place where needed.
Good video as usual dude!!! I really don't have to worry about my e-drum noise, the complaints start here when I record my guitars using a 4x12 cab & tube head...lol... I have a Yamaha DTX532K, & you're right, the TCS pads are quiet...I only have one (snare), & they are EXPENSIVE, but they are pretty quiet... I took an old toboggan & put it over my kick pad, which did help the noise a lot...Of course, I had to adjust the gain/sensitivity for the kick, but it did help... On a couple of my old DTX400 pads, I actually tried putting some foam on top of them, & it didn't really help...I ended up tweaking the module, & then still hitting them harder than I would've without the foam...Doesn't work, don't even go there...lol... The dynamic range is a great tip...I usually play with headphones so I don't hear how much noise I'm actually making....Once in a while, I use my monitors & was shocked at how hard I was whacking my drum pads...If nothing else, just play through some speakers once in a while to give yourself a reality check... I'm planning on buying some bigger, mesh head pads, but I'll have to buy something used/cheap to try it out, I'm not sure how my module (DTX502) will handle them...If all goes well, the next step I'm gonna make is to get some bigger, more realistic looking/feeling mesh head shells...If/when that ever happens, I'll make a little video to show 'em... Good video, good channel, glad I subscribed, lots of great info & help here dude!!!
@@minerman1970 Hey man how is the DXT 532K in terms of noise? Think I'd be fine to play in a room alone but living with other students in their own rooms?
My tip: Adoro SSX Silent Sticks. They have another big advantage: They don't wear out your gear while playing and seem tough enough from my experience, but don't hit any metal-parts with them, because metal wins.
Not a bad video but you missed out on mentioning adding a thin layer of padding to rubber cymbals to make them quieter. You can get some stuff at Home Depot, or buy something like the Alesis DPad for cymbals. Secondly, you can get rubber tips for your sticks to make them a little quilter (Vic Firth makes rubber practice tips - these are not hugely effective, tho), and some companies even make non-wood sticks that reduce the sound. Drum shields can help too, or just hang up a few comforters around the drum set. Padding can be added below the base drum pedal. Etc.
I'm a beginner and just bought my first e-drum kit ever. I thought it wouldn't disturb the neighbors but they do, a lot. Now I have to move it from my bedroom on the 3rd floor to the kitchen on the first floor just so it won't disturb the adjacent neighbors' bedrooms. I do use rubber pad and heel up on bass drum though so I can understand their complaints... I wish I could have it back in my bedroom, it feels so empty now.
In the end, you're still hitting something with a stick. It's always going to be loud. But the kickdrum is a big issue. It's probably the thing your'e neighbors are hearing
I have the Yamaha dtx 450k. I bought it 7 days ago, and the first complaint came yesterday from the guy next to me... I live in a building with very thin walls, but I don´t have anyone living underneath me.. The guy told me that it is OK if I play drums after 20:00.. Now I was wondering if the guy above me could hear my drumming? I do hear him walking around in his apartment, but I never can hear him talk or his TV n stuff...
sound travels far more than we believe more so in an Apt., in order to dampen the vibrations I found that mud flaps from a big rig works quite well, not only is the rubber mats heavy and dense but also aids in keeping your set-up from moving around. bonus is Anti-Sail & Spray Mud Flaps for a Pair of 24'30 is around $40. bucks
hello, i was wondering about a few other things that you have not mentioned in your video. First, i wonder about the other electronic kick pedals that are labelled as "silent" by manufacturers such as roland and yamaha. I also wonder if there is any kind of dampener that can be placed onto the drum surface, that can dampen the sound that the drum makes when hit. Lastly, i also wonder if using a soft headed mallet would be help reduce the sound? As the electronic drums do not have a body and thus do not make a booming sound, as associated with the types of drums normally hit by such mallets... would appreciate your advice on this. as i need to find some way to cut the noise down. thanks
What are your thoughts on karate mats (1.5 inch) with a rug over them? Would that help the noise heard downstairs? Is that stable enough for the drum set? Any recommendations other than noise eaters? Thanks!
i have 2 of those drumtec sound absorbing beaters but i find them to be too light, and they bounce all over the place, even with high spring tension. any solution? kick beater rings maybe?
I bought a black 15mm thick yoga mat that I cud in half, so 30mm over an inch, under the table, table top drum kit on a folded fleece blanket which I mite get more foam in the future, now im looking for some sort of deadening for the rubber pads on the DD75, Id expect this will change the sensitivity of the pads? How about nylon tipped sticks are they quieter? Im in a wafer thin apartment, new builds are these days in the U.K
The triggera Krigg Is also a great option for quite bass drum playing, it's much quiter then hitting a kick tower, it takes a bit of getting used to but if volume is your main concern I think it is worth the purchase I live in Canada and paid 100 bucks for it, I think its well worth the price.
I have a Roland KT 10 and NE10 ans bought a puzzle mat plus washing machine dampener. The KT10 I still got complaints by the guy downstairs. I like playing whenever which could be midnight. I’m thinking of so getting a sound deadener mat they use for car stereos ($50 from amazon) and a drum mat plus some acoustic foaming for the windows. I use only headphones so I was shocked when I got another complaint. The guy reckons he hears the vibration in the ceiling which I don’t doubt because why would he bring it up otherwise. But he did have the audacity to say that people living in apartments shouldn’t play drums. That hurt! But you’re right on by saying that your using your strongest muscles in the legs. Perhaps the tennis ball platform is what needed or a rubber mat
Hi 65 drums. Thank you for this video. I have recently had problems with my neighbors who live above me. I have an acoustic kit with low volume heads and cymbals. I still received complaints. Thank i bought the Simmons Titan 50, thinking this would solve the problem, i was wrong. My neighbors still complained. I don’t know what else to do. Do you have any suggestions? If so, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Don
On the plastic symbols I put a shirt or a little small like rug that can be crocheted my grandmother made a little table like cloth I put it on my plastic symbols and it works good.
Have you looked into dampers/pads designed for washing machines (to reduce vibration and keep them from walking around, as well as cut down on noise) as an alternative for the Roland NE-1 on hi-hat stands and rack feet?
Thanks Justin. One question. I'm getting very attracted to the yamaha 700 series drums with those silicone pads, but what about shelf life ? Do you know how long they last ? I'm presuming you can't just replace the pads but would have to buy a whole new drum ?
I"m currently playing a TD-20 SX and I too have a problem with the cymbal noise more so than the drum pad noise. I've been experimenting with using additional dampening material on both the top and underside of the cymbal. I've had some success using 1/4: neoprene like that used for mousepads on the underside and 1/8" neoprene on the top side.
Great, however what are the actual decibel levels for all the components ???? ie Kick pad with pedal vs a kick pedal controller. If I look at Roland pads, are PD pads quite than the PDX pads ie thickness/ design of the pad ?
I'm genuinely at a loss of what to do. I currently have a mesh drumset with thin mesh heads, I use rubber tops for my sticks, I literally made a platform out of noise isolation material that they use for buildings, It even has red carpet on it, but my neighbours are still complaining about the noise. They literally threatened to start a court case about the noise if I don't only drum between 2 and 6 pm and move my drumset to the attic, which is a stupid idea, cuz the noise is a lot more powerful there and way less isolated. They also called the police and the construction company that built my house before this, and both of them said the noise wasn't that bad. I am genuinely do not understand their problem, because I've done everything in my power to try damp the noise. If you know some kind of solution, please tell me.
If I am not a hard hitter, how light can I possibly hit an e-drum so that its just enough for the triggers to work ?? In other I am asking about how sensitive e-drums are now a days? Although its a 2017 video and I am asking in 2021.
Hey man, I currently own an Alesis nitro kit but it's very dusty due to some renovations to my home. Do you have any special cleaning techniques or cleaning sprays that you use to clean your own drum kit? Please respond asap, thanks dude!
Hey, I have a question. I'm debating between getting a Roland or a Yamaha drum set. I was looking at the cymbals that each drum set has and saw that the Yamaha cymbals will produce a muted sound when you hit it while choking it. Do the Roland CY-8 cymbals do that? I couldn't find the answer anywhere.
Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate the fact that you respond to your fan base. In my case I'm looking for a drum set that I can grow into as a musician, so looking for what features are available. The secondary thing is the cost. So I'm constantly finding myself going back and forth as to what to buy. I really appreciate your honesty and your reviews on these matters.
Its a tough search dude haha, I looked for over a year before buying. Just go for the top of what you can afford. The cheap edrums kinda suck unfortunately.
I am planning to buy Yamaha DTX532K. Is that quit and does it have silicon pads? I am right now searching for edrum kits with less noise (when it is played without amplifier) ,if not Yamaha DTX532K suggest me kits with less noise within the budget less than $1200. PS- This is going to be my first kit.
The kit you mentioned has a silicon snare and rubber pads. As far as electronic drums go, its a very good one for the price. And it's about as quiet as any edrum that size
yeah the thing i find is the loudest on my kit is definitely the ride cymbal or the hihat. wish i could mod or upgrade it. that tennis ball beater that came with my kit is definitely a lifesaver late at night. swapped out the mylar head for mesh silentstroke head. barely any noise
Hey, quit bashing Alesis Lol! I just traded my Roland TD1KV in on an Alesis DM10 Studio Mesh kit, and the Alesis is way quieter than the Roland was imho! I even think the kick pedal tower is quieter than my KT10 pedal was or about the same. I'm having a heck of a time getting my Alesis pedal dialed in though. How do you keep your beater from bouncing so much, or is there always going to be some bounce to It? Do I need to loosen the head up as far as I can? I swear I'm almost tempted to turn the beater around from the plastic side to the felt side because it doesn't bounce as much, but I know what felt beaters can do to a mesh head. Any thoughts Justin?? Thanks!!
Ugghh!! And the Alesis footboard is so short too if you remember Justin. You said you've played one before. I'm sure I'll buy a new kick pedal eventually, but I'd like to get this one comfortable while I have it. I can't seem to increase the throw on it very much either. It's got a spot it it likes to be at and that's it, unless I'm doing something wrong in my adjustments?
Keith Bickford the alesis pedal is very bad. Make a few adjustments by changing the tension. after a whole lot of tweaking, I finally found my sweet spot :3
There is always going to be some bounce to the kick tower, but I have heard alot of people complaining about the bounciness of the Crimson kick pad. Just loosen the mesh head :) If you want to use the felt side, get a kick drum patch, its what i did
65 Drums Yeah I'll try loosening the head some more and if that doesn't get it where I like it I'll get a kick drum patch and switch the beater back to the felt side. Wish I could just buy a new pedal right now but the one I want I just can't afford at the moment.
Yo, i'm thinking of applying plasti-spray from the car accessory shop on my electric cymbals to silence them, good or bad idea? Can i use dampaner pads on electric kit?
Even though I have my e drum kit resting on top of thick towels, the neighbours below me complain about the tapping of the pads. It doesn't matter how hard or soft I play, the floors are thin and they can hear the tapping. Anyway to stifle that noise?
When the sound goes through the floors and that is the main problem then try this: th-cam.com/video/z0Kxoa5K1vg/w-d-xo.html It costs some time to do and playing on it is a little bit weird at first but it works for me. My neighbours below me also complained about stick noises but when I did that there were no complains anymore. So maybe that might be the solution you are looking for. If that might be too much work then use acoustic foam on the floor. That works too but is more expensive
Hey man, I have a problem with my TD-25kv. The HH sound is way to quiet. I've messed with the leveling and settings, but nothing makes it better. Thanks for the helpful vid!
It's either what these two have said, or you're not hitting in the correct spot. I've noticed with the cymbals that come with it, they have a target area where to hit and will get the most sound. My cymbals have this tendency to turn, and when they do and I hit it, the sound won't come through as much.
metal cymbals can be quieter for others by having more high frequencies than hitting a rubber cymbal, higher frequencies don't travel through walls as much and theres some bass hitting a rubber cymbal
Great video!! With great tips! Love the NE-10 from Roland! It really helps! I also use the small ones NE-1 I think, for the Hi-hat stand. Super fine. I wonder if you would make a video of bass drum pedal and bass drum adjustment? When using something like the NE-10.. I have this weird play feeling (not natural) when I play the bass drum.. - It's like I am not able to do the same cool stuff on my e-bass drum as on the acoustic bass drum.. My theory is that the pedal is higher than the set.. But everything else on the set feels okay! Maybe it's the distance? Or the tight/loss-ness of the drumhead..? BTW, it is a Roland TD-12 I got. - Meshhead bass drum Any advice? Thanks in advance! :)
I did find the problem!! :D I compared with my arcustic kit, and the bass drum there is lose! - So I loosened the head on the e-drum and it feels much better!! :D
Today i think about the mallets with e-drums. I think it sounds much more quieter than sticks. But i dont know about the playability? Never tried any mallet with drums. If their tips are too heavy it should be a problem while drumming. But i watch some videos which guys using mallets with traditional and match grips very vell :)
Hey Justin! I recently purchased the KAT KT3 Electronic drum kit. I love the way it sounds and the feel of the kit is great too. However the Kick drum has a Mylar head which creates a lot of noise. i have a silent beater which KAT Percussion provided along with the kit but i still need to decrease the volume of the drum. Please suggest dome ways by which i can reduce the sound Levels.
Ever tried krigg triggers? They are very silent and quite cheap, some users modify them with foam on the contact side, to reduce the volume even more. For me playing feels very different and I haven´t got used to them yet, but they are really worth checking out.
Hey can you make a video on how to go live with your new acoustic/electric drum set with ezdrummer2, I also want to build an acoustic/electric drum kit but I don't want to buy an expensive module. So I want to use ezdrummer2
Elion Cuci lol im a drummer. And guitar pianist bassist. Your a musician man. Get knowledge of drums will make u shred in music faster than learning only bass riffs waiting for others or a computer to give u rythm or music to piggy back on. I did tht forwver. I hope this encourages you to get on the drums. Play some keyboard
Okay, you have suggestions for those who already have mesh kits and for those looking for drum kits. What suggestions do you have for drummers who have rubber pad drums?
Nice video thanks, lots of good tips and it's timely for me as we will have a new baby soon. I have seen people use mesh cymbals, not very realistic but it's something I am considering, I would rather be able to drum with mesh cymbals than not at all :)
I suppose the next innovation in electronic drums will be quiet cymbals. Thicker, softer rubber would seem the most obvious solution, but I assume there's a reason manufacturers haven't done that. Maybe they're afraid they won't feel enough like metal acoustic cymbals?
If your neighbors complain about the noise of your electronic drum kit, then the solution is simple: get an acoustic kit. After one evening of you playing that, they'll be begging you to go back to your "silent" electronic kit.
Great video, thanks. Unfortunately, I got 3 noise eaters for my double kick e-kit setup (got the TD50k), and my downstairs neighbor said it almost sounds like I'm playing basketball... (I'm on the fourth/top floor, they're on the second) Only one way to find out, but do you think I'd still get complaints if I created a platform like this th-cam.com/video/R00k-fJ6nGM/w-d-xo.html and also used the noise eaters? I'm pretty worried that the noise eaters didn't cut it. I also have my kit over an area rug, but it's pretty thin. Thanks
My previous neighbours who live downstairs did come up to complain about the constant pounding of the bass drum. I have a Yamaha DTXpress IV. They've since moved out and i made friends with my new neighbours even before they know i play drums. Then i gave them my number for them to call me if i get annoying. They've never called and I've enjoyed playing any time i like.
One tip is to set the sensitivity higher and dont hit as hard. I have my kit set that way, but im not mainly a drummer but a guitarplayer and i use the kit mainly as a studio tool.
I appreciate this very much, currently in a dorm and i brought my electric kit but i underestimated how loud it is
I've learned that, like you said towards the end, if I pull back on my playing just a bit it helps reduce the amount of sound my e-druns produce. That, on top of using the tennis ball beater from Kat, rim guards and lighter sticks (5A's down from 5A extreme/Power 5B's) and adjusting the sensitivity on the module just a bit, so that lighter hits produce a louder response, has really really helped me keep the noise levels from my kit at next to nothing. I've also experimented with those cheap window decals, that are made from moongel like materials but only cost $1 for a huge pack at the dollar store, and with placing them on the outer edge of the drum and other random spots and that seemed to actually cut down on some of the resonance also but actually getting them to stay put for longer than two songs was the actual challenge lol. What also works for me, since I live in an apartment and my drums are in my bed room and since my bedroom is directly underneath my neighbors bedroom, is if I'm playing during a time I know he's home or if it's later at night and I just gotta work some piece Ive been running through my head I'll actually make sure that I turn the t.v. on in my bedroom and turn it up to a point that really helps mask the sound or blend the sound into its own mix. I don't blast it or anything, I just keep it at a volume thay helps deaden the sound and it really helps quite a bit
+Brian Homan good tips :)
window decal moon gel?? I'm intrigued
Always really like your videos but LOVE THAT SHIRT! I'm from Cleveland, dont live there anymore but went back for game 7 to watch them win that championship and had the best time of my life!
I have an alesis nitro I haven't played in like, 2 years because ultimately I didn't want to annoy the other people in my house. These tips are going to be SO helpful to get me playing and learning more.
Also, 7:17 "back it up a little bit(ch)" 😆
Good tips on an important topic for real life when we share living quarters. Also - maybe - Wear a headset - keep volume UP (but not ear damaging!) and this automatically "encourages" us to physically hit the pads a little softer.
great video as always,
I often play my drum kit at around 3am therefore volume is paramount,
Agree 100% yamaha DTX silicone pads are the quietest.
> DRUM PEDAL, easily the quietest would be something like the roland KT-9 beaterless kick pedal, only problem is its its not a real pedal and does feel different but yes its quiet.
I have not tried this but roland KD-7 looks quiet as well. Another option is to always skip leg day and play heel down.
>Sticks, try 7A etc
>The room itself, try mattresses etc around the room.
>The volume you play your electric kit, i.e the volume you have set your drum module at, if you turn the thing up all the way to 11 you do tend to play louder.
Go Cavs
I agree with everything you said
If anyone has volume issues, just try the Lidwish Solutions Drumsticks!! Highly reccommended! In addition, I'm using the Roland KT-10 kick drum pedal as a bass drum replacement.
Thanks for the tip :)
You're welcome! Love your channel, man! ;-)
Thanks man!
I believe the Roland KT-9 is even better (quieter)
Great channel man. First vid watched, answered the the very question i was asking
YES I AM DEFINITLY GETTING KICK DRUM NOISE , I WILL HAVE TO BREAK DOWN & BUY
A ROLAND NOISE EATER UNDER IT. GREAT VIDEO
Thanks for watching :)
Man I was hoping for more. This is all common sense for most
Unfortunately there are no super secret tips. You are hitting something with sticks and kicking something as hard as you can. The laws of physics are in play here. At the end of the day, if you are commited to lower volume, use smaller drum pads. Also Yamaha DTX Silicon drums tend to be the quietest on the market. And just hit less hard.
Great video man, glad you mentioned the volume thing because it is real, in acoustic kits you have a bigger "feedback" when you hit the pieces, in edrums if you have you volume low, you won't have that much of a consequence. Great stuff man, would like to hear from you about the Zildjian L80 with trigger's.
I've played the L80s nice cymbals. But I've never used triggers on them
The Roland KT-10 is a good option for a quieter kick drum. I own two of them and they are quieter than a kick tower and have a solid feel. The Roland KT-9 is silent and I mean silent. I have two of them and they trigger well but the feel is 1/10.
+journeyseb thanks for the info :)
Great vid. I have had some success with those gel floor mats they sell for people who stand a lot. They absorb some of the shock going down into the floor from the rack and under you pedals. Not too expensive. I cut mine into a few pieces to place where needed.
That's a really interesting idea
Good video as usual dude!!! I really don't have to worry about my e-drum noise, the complaints start here when I record my guitars using a 4x12 cab & tube head...lol...
I have a Yamaha DTX532K, & you're right, the TCS pads are quiet...I only have one (snare), & they are EXPENSIVE, but they are pretty quiet...
I took an old toboggan & put it over my kick pad, which did help the noise a lot...Of course, I had to adjust the gain/sensitivity for the kick, but it did help...
On a couple of my old DTX400 pads, I actually tried putting some foam on top of them, & it didn't really help...I ended up tweaking the module, & then still hitting them harder than I would've without the foam...Doesn't work, don't even go there...lol...
The dynamic range is a great tip...I usually play with headphones so I don't hear how much noise I'm actually making....Once in a while, I use my monitors & was shocked at how hard I was whacking my drum pads...If nothing else, just play through some speakers once in a while to give yourself a reality check...
I'm planning on buying some bigger, mesh head pads, but I'll have to buy something used/cheap to try it out, I'm not sure how my module (DTX502) will handle them...If all goes well, the next step I'm gonna make is to get some bigger, more realistic looking/feeling mesh head shells...If/when that ever happens, I'll make a little video to show 'em...
Good video, good channel, glad I subscribed, lots of great info & help here dude!!!
Thanks man :) glad you liked the video. Its always a bit of a struggle to keep the volume down
No dude, thank you for making these videos, you were a big part in my decision to learn to play...
Thats amazing! Glad you started :)
@@minerman1970 Hey man how is the DXT 532K in terms of noise? Think I'd be fine to play in a room alone but living with other students in their own rooms?
Rule of thumb when wanting a softer quieter sound on an acoustic kit
is to play with lighter sticks.
My tip: Adoro SSX Silent Sticks. They have another big advantage: They don't wear out your gear while playing and seem tough enough from my experience, but don't hit any metal-parts with them, because metal wins.
Not a bad video but you missed out on mentioning adding a thin layer of padding to rubber cymbals to make them quieter. You can get some stuff at Home Depot, or buy something like the Alesis DPad for cymbals. Secondly, you can get rubber tips for your sticks to make them a little quilter (Vic Firth makes rubber practice tips - these are not hugely effective, tho), and some companies even make non-wood sticks that reduce the sound. Drum shields can help too, or just hang up a few comforters around the drum set. Padding can be added below the base drum pedal. Etc.
I'm a beginner and just bought my first e-drum kit ever. I thought it wouldn't disturb the neighbors but they do, a lot. Now I have to move it from my bedroom on the 3rd floor to the kitchen on the first floor just so it won't disturb the adjacent neighbors' bedrooms. I do use rubber pad and heel up on bass drum though so I can understand their complaints... I wish I could have it back in my bedroom, it feels so empty now.
In the end, you're still hitting something with a stick. It's always going to be loud. But the kickdrum is a big issue. It's probably the thing your'e neighbors are hearing
Stopped by for the drum knowledge, Subscribed for the Shirt! Love your channel.
Saw a video about a drummer who made toms from old tennis rackets. They were incredibly quiet!
I have the Yamaha dtx 450k. I bought it 7 days ago, and the first complaint came yesterday from the guy next to me...
I live in a building with very thin walls, but I don´t have anyone living underneath me.. The guy told me that it is OK if I play drums after 20:00..
Now I was wondering if the guy above me could hear my drumming? I do hear him walking around in his apartment, but I never can hear him talk or his TV n stuff...
sound travels far more than we believe more so in an Apt., in order to dampen the vibrations I found that mud flaps from a big rig works quite well, not only is the rubber mats heavy and dense but also aids in keeping your set-up from moving around. bonus is Anti-Sail & Spray Mud Flaps for a Pair of 24'30 is around $40. bucks
hello, i was wondering about a few other things that you have not mentioned in your video. First, i wonder about the other electronic kick pedals that are labelled as "silent" by manufacturers such as roland and yamaha.
I also wonder if there is any kind of dampener that can be placed onto the drum surface, that can dampen the sound that the drum makes when hit.
Lastly, i also wonder if using a soft headed mallet would be help reduce the sound?
As the electronic drums do not have a body and thus do not make a booming sound, as associated with the types of drums normally hit by such mallets...
would appreciate your advice on this. as i need to find some way to cut the noise down. thanks
What are your thoughts on karate mats (1.5 inch) with a rug over them? Would that help the noise heard downstairs? Is that stable enough for the drum set? Any recommendations other than noise eaters? Thanks!
i have 2 of those drumtec sound absorbing beaters but i find them to be too light, and they bounce all over the place, even with high spring tension. any solution? kick beater rings maybe?
I bought a black 15mm thick yoga mat that I cud in half, so 30mm over an inch, under the table, table top drum kit on a folded fleece blanket which I mite get more foam in the future, now im looking for some sort of deadening for the rubber pads on the DD75, Id expect this will change the sensitivity of the pads? How about nylon tipped sticks are they quieter? Im in a wafer thin apartment, new builds are these days in the U.K
The problem with 1-ply heads is that they have waaayyy too much rebound for me, and that especially bothers me on the kick
The triggera Krigg Is also a great option for quite bass drum playing, it's much quiter then hitting a kick tower, it takes a bit of getting used to but if volume is your main concern I think it is worth the purchase I live in Canada and paid 100 bucks for it, I think its well worth the price.
Thanks :)
I have a Roland KT 10 and NE10 ans bought a puzzle mat plus washing machine dampener. The KT10 I still got complaints by the guy downstairs. I like playing whenever which could be midnight. I’m thinking of so getting a sound deadener mat they use for car stereos ($50 from amazon) and a drum mat plus some acoustic foaming for the windows. I use only headphones so I was shocked when I got another complaint. The guy reckons he hears the vibration in the ceiling which I don’t doubt because why would he bring it up otherwise. But he did have the audacity to say that people living in apartments shouldn’t play drums. That hurt! But you’re right on by saying that your using your strongest muscles in the legs. Perhaps the tennis ball platform is what needed or a rubber mat
Thanks a lot for the tips ! Nicely done video btw, very good pace.
Hi 65 drums. Thank you for this video. I have recently had problems with my neighbors who live above me. I have an acoustic kit with low volume heads and cymbals. I still received complaints. Thank i bought the Simmons Titan 50, thinking this would solve the problem, i was wrong. My neighbors still complained. I don’t know what else to do. Do you have any suggestions? If so, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Don
On the plastic symbols I put a shirt or a little small like rug that can be crocheted my grandmother made a little table like cloth I put it on my plastic symbols and it works good.
Have you looked into dampers/pads designed for washing machines (to reduce vibration and keep them from walking around, as well as cut down on noise) as an alternative for the Roland NE-1 on hi-hat stands and rack feet?
Thanks Justin. One question. I'm getting very attracted to the yamaha 700 series drums with those silicone pads, but what about shelf life ? Do you know how long they last ? I'm presuming you can't just replace the pads but would have to buy a whole new drum ?
I"m currently playing a TD-20 SX and I too have a problem with the cymbal noise more so than the drum pad noise. I've been experimenting with using additional dampening material on both the top and underside of the cymbal. I've had some success using 1/4: neoprene like that used for mousepads on the underside and 1/8" neoprene on the top side.
I put thin cloth white cloth over my e drums under screws and use beanie material on cymbals makes a big difference turn up sensitivity if necessary
interesting, thanks :)
Great, however what are the actual decibel levels for all the components ???? ie Kick pad with pedal vs a kick pedal controller. If I look at Roland pads, are PD pads quite than the PDX pads ie thickness/ design of the pad ?
Aren't there some rubber drum sticks to reduce more the impact?
I saw silicone tips online you can put on your drumsticks. Would these help make hitting the cymbals quieter?
Another solid video, thanks!
Thanks :)
have you tested the roland noise eater pads yet?
I'm genuinely at a loss of what to do. I currently have a mesh drumset with thin mesh heads, I use rubber tops for my sticks, I literally made a platform out of noise isolation material that they use for buildings, It even has red carpet on it, but my neighbours are still complaining about the noise. They literally threatened to start a court case about the noise if I don't only drum between 2 and 6 pm and move my drumset to the attic, which is a stupid idea, cuz the noise is a lot more powerful there and way less isolated. They also called the police and the construction company that built my house before this, and both of them said the noise wasn't that bad. I am genuinely do not understand their problem, because I've done everything in my power to try damp the noise. If you know some kind of solution, please tell me.
ik this video is old but what about rubber tipped sticks?
why dont we start designing our own line of drums? bottoms are e drums.. tops acoustic.. just flip them over
that would be interesting
If you use triggers you can have both
Ruckus Allen that's genius!
snare drum would be complicated
Millennium did this with their transformer e-drum set
Great video Justin - Q: Are the mentioned 3rd party kick drum beaters QUIETER THAN the stock Roland V-Drums ones that come with the kit?
Yes, because they are designed to be quiet. Roland just gives you a kick beater because you shouldn't use a felt beater with mesh pads.
vr drum set is going to be a game changer once any latency is removed.
will hot rods and cool rods work as reliable as sticks in triggering the pads?
What are cool rods?
@@MasterKydis They are just like the hot rods dowels, just thinner and quieter
If I am not a hard hitter, how light can I possibly hit an e-drum so that its just enough for the triggers to work ?? In other I am asking about how sensitive e-drums are now a days? Although its a 2017 video and I am asking in 2021.
What are the cymbal stands you are using with the Roland cymbals?
So.. are the Yamaha dtx more silent that other RUBBER pads, or more silent than ANY other pad (including mesh) ?
Hey man, I currently own an Alesis nitro kit but it's very dusty due to some renovations to my home. Do you have any special cleaning techniques or cleaning sprays that you use to clean your own drum kit? Please respond asap, thanks dude!
301 Aerospace cleaner is what I heard that works well
Anyone have experience with the Roland KT-9 or KT-10? How do they compare to beater on something like a KD-7 or 9?
what is the quietest cymbal material and drum material
Can you recommend any silent and beginner e-drums? My budget is 600 dollar :)
Got any tips for a Roland ddr-30? The pads are all hard plastic and loud AF
Hey, I have a question. I'm debating between getting a Roland or a Yamaha drum set. I was looking at the cymbals that each drum set has and saw that the Yamaha cymbals will produce a muted sound when you hit it while choking it. Do the Roland CY-8 cymbals do that? I couldn't find the answer anywhere.
Roland doesn't have that feature at all
Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate the fact that you respond to your fan base. In my case I'm looking for a drum set that I can grow into as a musician, so looking for what features are available. The secondary thing is the cost. So I'm constantly finding myself going back and forth as to what to buy. I really appreciate your honesty and your reviews on these matters.
Its a tough search dude haha, I looked for over a year before buying. Just go for the top of what you can afford. The cheap edrums kinda suck unfortunately.
Oh yeah I'm following your advice on buying used.
...skip leg day... rofl!
+journeyseb had to do it lol
I just put a sock between the pedal and it’s base
Can you use triggers on noiseless mesh drum heads ?
I am planning to buy Yamaha DTX532K. Is that quit and does it have silicon pads?
I am right now searching for edrum kits with less noise (when it is played without amplifier) ,if not Yamaha DTX532K suggest me kits with less noise within the budget less than $1200.
PS- This is going to be my first kit.
The kit you mentioned has a silicon snare and rubber pads. As far as electronic drums go, its a very good one for the price. And it's about as quiet as any edrum that size
Thanks.Can you give a review about KAT percussion KT3 digit drum set?
So, it's 2021 now. Any solutions for quiet cymbals?
I have no problem with the drums and cymbals above. I only have problems with the bass. It keeps making a loud sound whenever I hit it. Help
yeah the thing i find is the loudest on my kit is definitely the ride cymbal or the hihat. wish i could mod or upgrade it. that tennis ball beater that came with my kit is definitely a lifesaver late at night. swapped out the mylar head for mesh silentstroke head. barely any noise
I agree about the cymbals :/
Hey, quit bashing Alesis Lol!
I just traded my Roland TD1KV in on an Alesis DM10 Studio Mesh kit, and the Alesis is way quieter than the Roland was imho! I even think the kick pedal tower is quieter than my KT10 pedal was or about the same.
I'm having a heck of a time getting my Alesis pedal dialed in though. How do you keep your beater from bouncing so much, or is there always going to be some bounce to It? Do I need to loosen the head up as far as I can? I swear I'm almost tempted to turn the beater around from the plastic side to the felt side because it doesn't bounce as much, but I know what felt beaters can do to a mesh head. Any thoughts Justin?? Thanks!!
Ugghh!! And the Alesis footboard is so short too if you remember Justin. You said you've played one before. I'm sure I'll buy a new kick pedal eventually, but I'd like to get this one comfortable while I have it. I can't seem to increase the throw on it very much either. It's got a spot it it likes to be at and that's it, unless I'm doing something wrong in my adjustments?
Keith Bickford
the alesis pedal is very bad. Make a few adjustments by changing the tension. after a whole lot of tweaking, I finally found my sweet spot :3
There is always going to be some bounce to the kick tower, but I have heard alot of people complaining about the bounciness of the Crimson kick pad. Just loosen the mesh head :) If you want to use the felt side, get a kick drum patch, its what i did
kunns123 Thanks, I'll keep working on it
65 Drums
Yeah I'll try loosening the head some more and if that doesn't get it where I like it I'll get a kick drum patch and switch the beater back to the felt side. Wish I could just buy a new pedal right now but the one I want I just can't afford at the moment.
Yo, i'm thinking of applying plasti-spray from the car accessory shop on my electric cymbals to silence them, good or bad idea? Can i use dampaner pads on electric kit?
Hey man! Did you make it? What do you think now?
Even though I have my e drum kit resting on top of thick towels, the neighbours below me complain about the tapping of the pads. It doesn't matter how hard or soft I play, the floors are thin and they can hear the tapping. Anyway to stifle that noise?
When the sound goes through the floors and that is the main problem then try this: th-cam.com/video/z0Kxoa5K1vg/w-d-xo.html
It costs some time to do and playing on it is a little bit weird at first but it works for me. My neighbours below me also complained about stick noises but when I did that there were no complains anymore. So maybe that might be the solution you are looking for. If that might be too much work then use acoustic foam on the floor. That works too but is more expensive
@@nobuna2114 Thanks a lot for this. I will definitely try it!
Hey man, I have a problem with my TD-25kv. The HH sound is way to quiet. I've messed with the leveling and settings, but nothing makes it better. Thanks for the helpful vid!
its hard to tell what the problem is just that info but try turning up the sensitivity
Will Seagle Do a factory reset.
It's either what these two have said, or you're not hitting in the correct spot. I've noticed with the cymbals that come with it, they have a target area where to hit and will get the most sound. My cymbals have this tendency to turn, and when they do and I hit it, the sound won't come through as much.
It may have a faulty sensor, call Roland and get a new one for free
metal cymbals can be quieter for others by having more high frequencies than hitting a rubber cymbal, higher frequencies don't travel through walls as much and theres some bass hitting a rubber cymbal
Great video!! With great tips!
Love the NE-10 from Roland! It really helps!
I also use the small ones NE-1 I think, for the Hi-hat stand. Super fine.
I wonder if you would make a video of bass drum pedal and bass drum adjustment? When using something like the NE-10..
I have this weird play feeling (not natural) when I play the bass drum.. - It's like I am not able to do the same cool stuff on my e-bass drum as on the acoustic bass drum..
My theory is that the pedal is higher than the set.. But everything else on the set feels okay! Maybe it's the distance? Or the tight/loss-ness of the drumhead..?
BTW, it is a Roland TD-12 I got. - Meshhead bass drum
Any advice?
Thanks in advance! :)
Try to Tighten up the mesh head :)
I will try!! :) Thanks!
I did find the problem!! :D I compared with my arcustic kit, and the bass drum there is lose! - So I loosened the head on the e-drum and it feels much better!! :D
Which one is better? Alesis drp100 or audio technica ath m20x for electronic drums?
probably the M20x, but those alesis headphones will block out the sound of you hitting the pads better. So its really up to you
Today i think about the mallets with e-drums. I think it sounds much more quieter than sticks. But i dont know about the playability? Never tried any mallet with drums. If their tips are too heavy it should be a problem while drumming. But i watch some videos which guys using mallets with traditional and match grips very vell :)
What about zildjian gen16 cymbals they are metal and pretty quiet in my opinion?
Not as a quiet as rubber cymbals. They are incredibly fun to play though :)
Hey Justin!
I recently purchased the KAT KT3 Electronic drum kit.
I love the way it sounds and the feel of the kit is great too.
However the Kick drum has a Mylar head which creates a lot of noise.
i have a silent beater which KAT Percussion provided along with the kit but i still need to decrease the volume of the drum.
Please suggest dome ways by which i can reduce the sound Levels.
lol, that's what this video is buddy
Ever tried krigg triggers? They are very silent and quite cheap, some users modify them with foam on the contact side, to reduce the volume even more. For me playing feels very different and I haven´t got used to them yet, but they are really worth checking out.
+Angelo Sasso haven't tried them, but good to know you're having solid results with them
Hey can you make a video on how to go live with your new acoustic/electric drum set with ezdrummer2, I also want to build an acoustic/electric drum kit but I don't want to buy an expensive module. So I want to use ezdrummer2
I'll keep that video idea in mind :)
Helpful video thank you
Im a bassist why am I here?
+Elion Cuci your inner drummer is calling ;)
Elion Cuci lol im a drummer. And guitar pianist bassist. Your a musician man. Get knowledge of drums will make u shred in music faster than learning only bass riffs waiting for others or a computer to give u rythm or music to piggy back on. I did tht forwver. I hope this encourages you to get on the drums. Play some keyboard
Because you’re a bassist and don’t know which is which
You got the rhythm
Love the tool pfp
keep it up bro 😀
Thanks man :)
Okay, you have suggestions for those who already have mesh kits and for those looking for drum kits. What suggestions do you have for drummers who have rubber pad drums?
Like the shirt! Go cavs!
YESS
Why do e-cymbals use rubber over plastic? Can't they be made out of thick rubber without plastic?
Great vid
Thanks :)
Nice video thanks, lots of good tips and it's timely for me as we will have a new baby soon. I have seen people use mesh cymbals, not very realistic but it's something I am considering, I would rather be able to drum with mesh cymbals than not at all :)
Thanks for watching :)
Excelent! Thank you
the e-cymbals are to loud ...
yes
I suppose the next innovation in electronic drums will be quiet cymbals. Thicker, softer rubber would seem the most obvious solution, but I assume there's a reason manufacturers haven't done that. Maybe they're afraid they won't feel enough like metal acoustic cymbals?
Thank you so much.
Thank you
Why the hell am I watching this? I do not and probably will never play the drums...
Nice vid.
Thanks man
Nice vid
Thanks dude!
I came here for the cymbal noise reduction lol
I did too! :(
Me too
What also worked for me was removing the resonant drum heads from my converted acoustic drum kit.
I did that too
If your neighbors complain about the noise of your electronic drum kit, then the solution is simple: get an acoustic kit. After one evening of you playing that, they'll be begging you to go back to your "silent" electronic kit.
for me volume is not the issue, but i keep getting complaints about the vibrations
Great video, thanks. Unfortunately, I got 3 noise eaters for my double kick e-kit setup (got the TD50k), and my downstairs neighbor said it almost sounds like I'm playing basketball... (I'm on the fourth/top floor, they're on the second)
Only one way to find out, but do you think I'd still get complaints if I created a platform like this th-cam.com/video/R00k-fJ6nGM/w-d-xo.html and also used the noise eaters?
I'm pretty worried that the noise eaters didn't cut it. I also have my kit over an area rug, but it's pretty thin.
Thanks
dynamic range people!
YES!
Yeah, even if you have two notes at the same decibel level their frequency range will have just as much an effect on what is heard through a wall.
love ur shirt, u from CLE?
A few hours south
Do The neighbors Only hear The kick drum pedal?
If they live on the floor below you, that's the main thing they hear
Ok thanks
My previous neighbours who live downstairs did come up to complain about the constant pounding of the bass drum. I have a Yamaha DTXpress IV.
They've since moved out and i made friends with my new neighbours even before they know i play drums. Then i gave them my number for them to call me if i get annoying. They've never called and I've enjoyed playing any time i like.
awesome
+addthisto :)