Hey, great strategy! - I tried it and it works smoothly. But does it really work for a four player game? I can imagine that the tables are used up quite fast...
Thanks! Great question. I've had success with it in a four player game, but not when everyone was attempting this strategy. Typically people are buying upgrades along the way, so someone ends up selling three of their tables back late in the game when they are most needed. That said, if the tables did run out you'd at least be no worse off than everyone else, and it only increases the motivation to buy early and often!
@@wingames9172 I remember the rules are discards don't come back into play, once bought a table is gone forever. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't have the rules with me right now
@@jangohemmes352 That would be an important distinction! On page 8 of the English instructions in the box titled ‘special offer!’ the instructions say that “the cost of an upgrade can be reduced by returning one or more tavern cards from the area being upgraded to the general supply.” More tables for everyone!
I have tried the game so many times with 4 Players and I admit, if everyone knows the winning strategy, there were be no tables by round 5 or 6. But you can still use this strategy with a little solution. You should reduce the number of your standard guests and try to buy 3 or 4 tables. In order to remove the guests you need to turn around the bartender track faster. So you need more of the value 1Dublone cards and save your schnapps to remove a guest for each 2 schnapps. If you produce 1D buy 1 bard. If youproduce 2D buy 1 bard and save the other and so on. With this strategy you will go up on the bartender track very fast and you will be able to remove 5 to 6 guests. So the lack of tables won't affect your game.
You are absolutely right. Counter guests can only be spent to discard/restart the Arrival phase, or to advance one space on the monastery track. During the final phase I should have discarded my two counter guests to advance two spaces on the monastery track because it would take me to space 8 where the reward is a noble. Nice catch!
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Hey, great strategy! - I tried it and it works smoothly. But does it really work for a four player game? I can imagine that the tables are used up quite fast...
Thanks! Great question. I've had success with it in a four player game, but not when everyone was attempting this strategy. Typically people are buying upgrades along the way, so someone ends up selling three of their tables back late in the game when they are most needed. That said, if the tables did run out you'd at least be no worse off than everyone else, and it only increases the motivation to buy early and often!
@@wingames9172 I remember the rules are discards don't come back into play, once bought a table is gone forever. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't have the rules with me right now
@@jangohemmes352 That would be an important distinction! On page 8 of the English instructions in the box titled ‘special offer!’ the instructions say that “the cost of an upgrade can be reduced by returning one or more tavern cards from the area being upgraded to the general supply.” More tables for everyone!
@@wingames9172 Good to know! Thanks for looking it up
I have tried the game so many times with 4 Players and I admit, if everyone knows the winning strategy, there were be no tables by round 5 or 6. But you can still use this strategy with a little solution. You should reduce the number of your standard guests and try to buy 3 or 4 tables. In order to remove the guests you need to turn around the bartender track faster. So you need more of the value 1Dublone cards and save your schnapps to remove a guest for each 2 schnapps. If you produce 1D buy 1 bard. If youproduce 2D buy 1 bard and save the other and so on. With this strategy you will go up on the bartender track very fast and you will be able to remove 5 to 6 guests. So the lack of tables won't affect your game.
I just read all the rules in the book and I don't see anywhere that counter guests are worth nobles.
You are absolutely right. Counter guests can only be spent to discard/restart the Arrival phase, or to advance one space on the monastery track. During the final phase I should have discarded my two counter guests to advance two spaces on the monastery track because it would take me to space 8 where the reward is a noble. Nice catch!