Looks like a proper XC MTB course for a change. Its amazing how unwilling they seem to change their bike set ups given the conditions though. A Maxxis Aspen shouldn't always be a default choice.
Thats a root that smells like hospital food! Love it. First Rick quote that rivals a Rob Warner quote. You’re nailing the XC commentary Rick. Keep it up brother.
Hard to see anyone beating him other than lady luck in the Olympic Cross country. It’s like he puts in one good dig for a few minutes then goes into autopilot for the rest of the race. Phenomenal talent
Depends … if the Olympic track has long steep climbs, then I agree. If there are more short punchy climbs, it might be more open. I can understand that he is received with mixed feelings, btw. Personally I can relate since I too am (many leagues below these guys 😉) small and excel on climbs particularly. Yes, he is supremely talented. And while he will find it difficult to be the best in some biking disciplines du to his physique, his small size benefits him in XCO. That’s why I wish him all the best and hope for his 2nd successive Olympic Gold 👍
I truly enjoyed watching full race. The race for third in the last lap was solid. Pidcock is so dominant. I liked the course. The wetness is what made it more dangerous.
Tom Pidcock is a MTB legend!! I personally love the new cross country track in Switzerland, looks very difficult however we are watching the pros! ❤️🚵🏻
RedBull was outbid 2 years ago, and didn't have the budget to cover it. You now have to subscribe to Max or Discovery+ and buy their entire package. That's how us corporate media/cable TV works. Capitalism at its finest, greatly benefitting the CEO and top shareholders.
I dont mind crashes in the dry but in those conditions it wasnt there fault and i really felt for the guy who broke his jaw. Would be a perfect course dry but in the wet its too risky
Courses in the future should have jumps over burning fires, sections that have snipers with live ammo, and 1 kilometer climbs with an average grade of 80%. Those climbs need to have course marshals standing there with water hoses to ensure the dirt is mud, or use broken glass for the surface.
What?! No sharks with fricken lasers on their heads? Would you settle for ill tempered, mutated sea bass? Oh! I know! A section of the course populated with the aliens from Alien. And another area with Predator aliens. Sound good? 😁
Reasons why Red Bull was better: 1) It was FREE and easy to view. 2) Because it was free more people watched it. Whopp is too busy trying to make a buck. 3) We saw more racing. Whilst the addition of Junior Finals coverage is a positive though. 4) Red Bull's graphics were better. 5) Current coverage is a pain in the a@$ to watch and are not started on time. 6) The short race coverage are okay but just a tease to get you to buy the subscription to watch live.
Cyclocross riders deal with this kind of stuff all the time. When I raced XC in Alaska, we often had races like this where we would start the race with brand new cables and housings and would have to replace all of it by the end of the race. And the mud up there was much worse because it was full of glacial silt and was incredibly slick and got into EVERYTHING. Dealing with trail conditions is part of racing. The only questionable part in my mind was that rock garden; creating barriers with sharp rocks jutting upwards in between the lines was a bad decision.
@@keirfarnum6811 cyclocross is suposed to be like that, XCO no. Makes no sense having the riders running on climbs. I do agree that's part of it but it would be better if they waited for better conditions. Yup, that rock garden is nasty!
Seeing people tryna make a point that it was too dangerous makes me laugh. The course was hard as hell and it was wet. The most technical riders will prevail.
Someone who has design and build that rock garden should lose his job... And it's not only about blind drop, because there are bigger drops on other WC. But to put those vertical, sharp huge rocks betwen lines, that is out this world. Someone forget that XC riders wear almost roadie helmets and any crash there can be brutal
Can you please stop showing the front guy, if nothing is happening? Behind there is probably a lot more action, people trying to overtake, tak7ng different lines and such. Even if it is just top 5
Despite all the hype about this hard course, the result was the same as the others. It was won in the climbs by the guy with the best cardio. A guy historically great in climbs got 2nd. This isn't to imply Pidcock or Flukinger don't have good tech skills, of course they do, just that all the talk about how this course would really disrupt things turned out to be completely false.
Don’t pay attention to the couch bound analysts. They’re all clueless. Races are always won in the climbs and technical bike handling skills are always important regardless, but that’s only part of what will help someone win. That’s been true since XC racing began. XC racers need all the skills and fitness to win.
@@keirfarnum6811 Exactly. Anybody thinking a 'roadie' could turn up and win is clueless.....You need all the skills to win. When N1no is crashing you know the course is tough.
The “people” were Actually the Teams and Riders who complained about the course to the organizers. They were in the hot seat and forced to make changes to the course. It went to shit with all the rain. Poor design. I’m all about technical difficulty, but lining up a row of pointy tombstones rocks on a tight landing from a drop is an unrealistic consequence.
@@frienduro24 that's valid if the riders are raising safety concerns, but I am referring to the viewers watching on youtube being the arbiters of what should be a XC course.
Seemed a little dangerous without many safer options. Don't like seeing injury accidents and there were a few. Shame that bloody commentator who simply can't wait to interrupt was back in the booth again.
All very nice, very technical, very Swiss, but at this rate in 5 years all participants to the hospital. Is this necessary to see the best Mtb riders trying to be the winner of a world championship event?
I know, right? This wasn’t abnormal for when I was racing XC in Alaska in the early 90s (minus the rock garden of course; we didn’t have full sus bikes back then and forks with only 25 mm travel can’t do that much).
I thought it was cool to see the obstacles. just don’t know why they lined/divided the rock garden with rock walls (where Brandl smashed his jaw). when they realized how slick it was they should have padded those better imo. It wouldn’t minimize the obstacle difficulty but in case some crashed they’d be less likely to break their damn jaw.
Prefer a more even mix of technical, hills and speed. This seemed too risky for serious injuries and was also tbqh a bit dull… men’s, women’s both. Not very much fun to watch.
It looked like a fun hard-core mtb xc race when the track was dry in training. It looked like the riders were loving it. Once all the racing had taken place and it turned to mud it didn't look so much like fun
Greedy uci. Shame on you. Even an amateur license is stupid $$$$. Where’s Rob. BART and ROB. Super exciting commentary. A lot more folks would pay to watch B&R spittin on the mic. 🎉🎉
They weren't interested in keeping Rob, and Bart only gets involved sometimes. They wanted their own guys, and we're stuck with them. Oh, and the inexpensive pacakge you used to be able to buy on RedBull (or even GCN) is no more. If you are in the US you have to pay $$$ and buy the entire Max or Discover+ package, even if you only wanted to see these events. Corporate capitalism at it's finest, benefitting the CEO and top shareholders.
@@PhilAndersonOutside The whole discovery+ package costs me the price of a cappucino a month and I have everything around sports biking in one place. They make at least one person happy.
They were thinking it would disrupt the climbers more, with too many MTB races won by guys who can climb, with the best cardio. Except that didn't happen here at all, in fact Pidcock is the best cardio guy, and Flukinger is a great climber. So the opposite turned out to be true, with just more dangerous obstacles.
My Goodness me!!! Did you not find a worse dressed and made-up presentator? This girl/woman resembles the evil itself. Probably you just wanted that...
I feel like rodies should not be able to race mountain bike there budget to spend on training camps is 100000 to the mountain bikers 1000 dollars it just is not fair that they can super cross race like that
@@keirfarnum6811 yes but it is so much harder for someone who does not have the huge roadie budget to compete with them a top mtber can probly go to one elevation camp a year a Rodie goes to 12 giving them a huge advantage
@@tamasvarga67 Perhaps end it with, “in my opinion”. Unfortunately pidcock talks and when he does the arrogance of this small man becomes apparent, imho. 😁
Seriously! Why do you place the winner on the thumbnail of the video?! Stop doing that!!!
yeah that's utterly stupid
It's UCI. They're not that bright
wait you thought pidcock would lose to this guys kkkk
@@clenilsonsilas2456 Pidcick has the best training for this type of course
I didn’t know he was the winner until I read this.
The Swiss know how to make a diabolical track! Now I don't feel so bad about crashing. The best in the world stack it up too.
1:15 to skip the guff at the start of the video
Saint Will
yeah, the intro was a bit "cheesy"
😂 so true.
I always fwd past the intros and get right to the start.
Tom, doing a weekend MTB ride before starting the Tour.😂😂
A proper Mtb course the mud the technical up and down hills was great.
Looks like a proper XC MTB course for a change. Its amazing how unwilling they seem to change their bike set ups given the conditions though. A Maxxis Aspen shouldn't always be a default choice.
XC mud tyres aren't really a mud tyre.....
Thats a root that smells like hospital food! Love it. First Rick quote that rivals a Rob Warner quote. You’re nailing the XC commentary Rick. Keep it up brother.
"Taken out by a sniper root" Love it, he's doing great!
Hard to see anyone beating him other than lady luck in the Olympic Cross country. It’s like he puts in one good dig for a few minutes then goes into autopilot for the rest of the race. Phenomenal talent
Depends … if the Olympic track has long steep climbs, then I agree. If there are more short punchy climbs, it might be more open.
I can understand that he is received with mixed feelings, btw. Personally I can relate since I too am (many leagues below these guys 😉) small and excel on climbs particularly.
Yes, he is supremely talented. And while he will find it difficult to be the best in some biking disciplines du to his physique, his small size benefits him in XCO. That’s why I wish him all the best and hope for his 2nd successive Olympic Gold 👍
wow. that was an MTB & figure skating mashup!
Is anyone listening to the mix before uploading this? The crowd noise is way too loud.
what a killerTrack!!! they even used one (tricky) part of the track they used for Enduro (where Niko fell, I remember Richie Rude falling there too)
I truly enjoyed watching full race. The race for third in the last lap was solid. Pidcock is so dominant.
I liked the course. The wetness is what made it more dangerous.
Tom is class 💪🏻making a show of the full time Mountain bikers😊
Tom Pidcock is a beast. And this track is a beast as well, devouring the biggest champions for breakfast!
Im not familiar with XC racing, just getting into watching it. This course looked more technical than what I expected.
Tom Pidcock is a MTB legend!! I personally love the new cross country track in Switzerland, looks very difficult however we are watching the pros! ❤️🚵🏻
Proper track! Exciting!
Scary mud, tree roots and rocks. Classy win!
Great course 👍👍
Adding a lap around the lake to accommodate the fast pace riders would have made it perfect 👌
1 rider smashed his jaw on rock drop 😬😬
😨
Ooooof 😢
It’s called mountain biking.
Love this course.
Absolutely do not appreciate the dirt crits.
All of the World Cup courses should be AT LEAST THIS HARD.
I love the XC, road crossover. Go Pidcock! Let’s get more road pros testing out the dirt and see if they can hang.
Incredible! How do they find the energy and skill to complete that race?
Congrats to Tom Pidcock.
The full race please!!!!!
They do that and then there will be another after you whining that it’s click bait. 😂
It’s TH-cam, you can’t win.
Eurosport
Why dont we have a live full race like red bull tv?
Eurosport
On Max in the US
RedBull was outbid 2 years ago, and didn't have the budget to cover it. You now have to subscribe to Max or Discovery+ and buy their entire package. That's how us corporate media/cable TV works. Capitalism at its finest, greatly benefitting the CEO and top shareholders.
@@miche_amico im not in the US
Pidcock is something else🎉
Commentators you did a good job thank you.
great ride
Pidcock is unstoppable! Imagine if he only raced XC mtb races!
I dont mind crashes in the dry but in those conditions it wasnt there fault and i really felt for the guy who broke his jaw. Would be a perfect course dry but in the wet its too risky
? It’s mountain biking. Just stop if you can’t ride.
The winner did just fine SEVEN TIMES on the same “A” line.
I am a xc ignorant but I feel like a dropper post would help. Is weight that important?
They're running dropper posts but they have less drop than your standard enduro setup.
Most do use droppers, but it varies.
First ever the brand : Berria on the podium! wel done!
Tom is the man, he silenced all the critics. Suddenly no one is saying anything bad about him. How do you like them apples??
Don't worry they'll still come out.....
I miss Redbull.
Thanks for the highlights, but please leave the presenter to the live broadcast only...
Courses in the future should have jumps over burning fires, sections that have snipers with live ammo, and 1 kilometer climbs with an average grade of 80%. Those climbs need to have course marshals standing there with water hoses to ensure the dirt is mud, or use broken glass for the surface.
What?! No sharks with fricken lasers on their heads? Would you settle for ill tempered, mutated sea bass?
Oh! I know! A section of the course populated with the aliens from Alien. And another area with Predator aliens. Sound good? 😁
Reasons why Red Bull was better:
1) It was FREE and easy to view.
2) Because it was free more people watched it. Whopp is too busy trying to make a buck.
3) We saw more racing. Whilst the addition of Junior Finals coverage is a positive though.
4) Red Bull's graphics were better.
5) Current coverage is a pain in the a@$ to watch and are not started on time.
6) The short race coverage are okay but just a tease to get you to buy the subscription to watch live.
This course had everything to be a great course, but it's horrendous in these conditions! Makes no sense making a race on these!
Cyclocross riders deal with this kind of stuff all the time. When I raced XC in Alaska, we often had races like this where we would start the race with brand new cables and housings and would have to replace all of it by the end of the race. And the mud up there was much worse because it was full of glacial silt and was incredibly slick and got into EVERYTHING. Dealing with trail conditions is part of racing. The only questionable part in my mind was that rock garden; creating barriers with sharp rocks jutting upwards in between the lines was a bad decision.
@@keirfarnum6811 cyclocross is suposed to be like that, XCO no. Makes no sense having the riders running on climbs. I do agree that's part of it but it would be better if they waited for better conditions. Yup, that rock garden is nasty!
does Picock not compete if it's a Nino preferred course? Coz he missed a hattrick , probably knowing it's not his 'course'
No, he was racing Tour de Suisse.
Where can I see the full race?????
Eurosport
The question these days is HOW MUCH do I have to pay to see the full race...
@@phoenixinthetrees1446 Especially in the US. You have to buy the entire package from Max or Discovery+.
What happened to Belvins
The opening monologue is always extremely cringey…
Show papai
Never thought i would sat this but these seem extreme for an xc course
When Emily Batty as Host?
Olé....🚴🇪🇦💘🤘🏻🤣
Campeones....
Sei un grande Luca !!!! 🇮🇹
Seeing people tryna make a point that it was too dangerous makes me laugh. The course was hard as hell and it was wet. The most technical riders will prevail.
Full race???? Where???
Discovery Channel
Tom RULES !!!!
Someone who has design and build that rock garden should lose his job... And it's not only about blind drop, because there are bigger drops on other WC. But to put those vertical, sharp huge rocks betwen lines, that is out this world. Someone forget that XC riders wear almost roadie helmets and any crash there can be brutal
absolutely agree
I don't understand they put it in a slow uphill place. If you're a bit cooked and don't carry enough speed you're dead.
Can you please stop showing the front guy, if nothing is happening? Behind there is probably a lot more action, people trying to overtake, tak7ng different lines and such. Even if it is just top 5
Despite all the hype about this hard course, the result was the same as the others. It was won in the climbs by the guy with the best cardio. A guy historically great in climbs got 2nd. This isn't to imply Pidcock or Flukinger don't have good tech skills, of course they do, just that all the talk about how this course would really disrupt things turned out to be completely false.
Don’t pay attention to the couch bound analysts. They’re all clueless. Races are always won in the climbs and technical bike handling skills are always important regardless, but that’s only part of what will help someone win. That’s been true since XC racing began. XC racers need all the skills and fitness to win.
@@keirfarnum6811 Exactly. Anybody thinking a 'roadie' could turn up and win is clueless.....You need all the skills to win. When N1no is crashing you know the course is tough.
Yikes The broadcasting was far better on RedBull TV¡
annoys me no end people are complaining about the course being dangerous. Maybe they should tune in to Spin classes for their past time, Seriously
Yeah man, let's have steeper drops,more downhill oriented sections and more injuries so that numskulls like yourself can pretend to not have a micro 🐓
stop being so sensitive
is a world championship for a reason
you should realise that it is just going to get tougher each year
The “people” were Actually the Teams and Riders who complained about the course to the organizers. They were in the hot seat and forced to make changes to the course. It went to shit with all the rain. Poor design.
I’m all about technical difficulty, but lining up a row of pointy tombstones rocks on a tight landing from a drop is an unrealistic consequence.
@@frienduro24 that's valid if the riders are raising safety concerns, but I am referring to the viewers watching on youtube being the arbiters of what should be a XC course.
@@redscooter32feel the same way about twats like you who only watch for the crashes
Seemed a little dangerous without many safer options. Don't like seeing injury accidents and there were a few. Shame that bloody commentator who simply can't wait to interrupt was back in the booth again.
All very nice, very technical, very Swiss, but at this rate in 5 years all participants to the hospital. Is this necessary to see the best Mtb riders trying to be the winner of a world championship event?
It loores like everyone was no the wrong tires
Great course! All of the dirt roadies that are complaining because the race wasn’t held on gravel and pavement. 😅
I know, right? This wasn’t abnormal for when I was racing XC in Alaska in the early 90s (minus the rock garden of course; we didn’t have full sus bikes back then and forks with only 25 mm travel can’t do that much).
I thought it was cool to see the obstacles. just don’t know why they lined/divided the rock garden with rock walls (where Brandl smashed his jaw). when they realized how slick it was they should have padded those better imo. It wouldn’t minimize the obstacle difficulty but in case some crashed they’d be less likely to break their damn jaw.
What's a dirt roadie? And who is a dirt roadie? Ridiculous comment......They're all mountain bikers....
Prefer a more even mix of technical, hills and speed. This seemed too risky for serious injuries and was also tbqh a bit dull… men’s, women’s both. Not very much fun to watch.
Turista wins
The level of cringe in these intros......I mean, who sanctioned these? Who thought that is going to work?
Unnecessarily dangerous course for XC asking for injuries.
Maybe some of these guys need some downhill lessons and grippier heavier tires.
Absolutely shocking course. Does the UCI value clickbait crashes above rider safety now??
Looks like it, the course was like inviting riders to injuries..
It looked like a fun hard-core mtb xc race when the track was dry in training. It looked like the riders were loving it. Once all the racing had taken place and it turned to mud it didn't look so much like fun
Show the whole race. And stop with the thumbnail spoilers. You’re as bad as #!
Kate Mason is a fox!
Ahop
The lady at the beginning of these videos needs to go.
I’m just curious why?
@@Akot572because people like to find things to complain about.
She’s fine. What are you whining about?
Greedy uci. Shame on you. Even an amateur license is stupid $$$$. Where’s Rob. BART and ROB. Super exciting commentary. A lot more folks would pay to watch B&R spittin on the mic. 🎉🎉
They weren't interested in keeping Rob, and Bart only gets involved sometimes. They wanted their own guys, and we're stuck with them. Oh, and the inexpensive pacakge you used to be able to buy on RedBull (or even GCN) is no more. If you are in the US you have to pay $$$ and buy the entire Max or Discover+ package, even if you only wanted to see these events. Corporate capitalism at it's finest, benefitting the CEO and top shareholders.
@@PhilAndersonOutside The whole discovery+ package costs me the price of a cappucino a month and I have everything around sports biking in one place. They make at least one person happy.
is she drunk at the start?
the dumbest course i’ve ever witnessed
Hate Hate Hate this.
What was the purpose of that course? That race was horrible and you put the riders at to much risk.
Get a grip man
Wompwomp
yeah, the risk of injury is extremely high
They were thinking it would disrupt the climbers more, with too many MTB races won by guys who can climb, with the best cardio. Except that didn't happen here at all, in fact Pidcock is the best cardio guy, and Flukinger is a great climber. So the opposite turned out to be true, with just more dangerous obstacles.
Separate the real riders from the soy xc boys. They have full suspension..they're fine.
My Goodness me!!! Did you not find a worse dressed and made-up presentator? This girl/woman resembles the evil itself. Probably you just wanted that...
I think Pidcock should sit out of the upcoming Olympic, just so that other riders especially Nino would have a brighter chance to win the race.
lol! dude, Shurter has won three Olympic medals, one of which is gold. Piddlycock has won .... one.
Shurter is Wishing Tom won’t turn up
He’ll be knackered after the tour, not exactly great prep
I feel like rodies should not be able to race mountain bike there budget to spend on training camps is 100000 to the mountain bikers 1000 dollars it just is not fair that they can super cross race like that
That makes no sense. Cycling is cycling, regardless of how much one spends on a training camp. That’s not what makes someone fast and fit.
@@keirfarnum6811 yes but it is so much harder for someone who does not have the huge roadie budget to compete with them a top mtber can probly go to one elevation camp a year a Rodie goes to 12 giving them a huge advantage
Unfortunately i find pidcock very unlikable. Great cyclist though.
I’m not a fan of him but he’s not doing anything to be unlikable
@@tamasvarga67
Perhaps end it with, “in my opinion”.
Unfortunately pidcock talks and when he does the arrogance of this small man becomes apparent, imho. 😁
What has he done for you not to like him?
Do you know him well then?
If not i dont know how gyou can judge his likeability!
why he’s such a guy my favorite racer
If this is his focus, he is not winning the tour any time soon
Naw. There’s no reason why this can’t help in training for the tour depending on schedule.
He won’t even be a contender so it’s no point going at it
Wish mvdp had been here pidcock would have destroyed him also on a course like this
Eh? If mvdp was here he would have been dnf in the first lap. No need for Pidcock to destroy him
You're kidding, right? MVP would have done fine in the first climb, but he would have very likely crashed out pretty quickly.
I think MVDP learned his lessons in the past that he is simply not the best mountainbike rider.
Just like he did in cyclo cross?! 😂
That makes no sense whatsoever. MDVP is a great cyclocross rider and does extremely well in XC.
So I can’t watch it live… so I come here to watch the highest.. to see a freaking thumbnail of the winner 🫠
Grande Braidot ❤❤❤