49:50 Once again TT shows the epitome of sporting behaviour: Chef reminding Spider that his Librarian's Precision ability can be utilised after the number of wounds is known 👏
Watching Chef and Spider go at it is a true clash of the titans(lol), and a tactical masterclass for their armies (pity they don't play my chosen forces).
Yeah, I moved here from Play On since they stopped using Gray Knights. And in the one episode they did I could tell they weren't the most excited about using them
@@collincarlson3932 I would suggest Necrons. They have a good modern range of models, a few different players styles and showcase all 40k elements. GK are an elite army with an old model range and quite a high skill army that takes a lot to learn.
@@collincarlson3932 I too play both necrons and GK, definitely recommend necrons first as they are easier to learn and if you loose a few guys it's not as punishing as losing a GK
What a great and interesting game. Everyone being so mobile was really interesting. As always, a fantastic battle report and an awesome match to start up the semi-finals!
Fun game, good showcasing for each army. I personally prefer Canoptek Court, with Szeras and a CTan. Szeras' aura and rerolls with the tesla immortals, or even gauss immortals is so good. Szeras is basically a CTan, but gets rerolls and can be protected by strats. Wraiths get rerolls and infiltrate, plus the movement strat is really good with them. Doomstalkers with rerolls and a spyder for the FNP. Some heavy Lokhusts to pop vehicles/monsters. Maybe Hypercrypt is stronger/more competitive, but I just love rolling dice and the court gives so many rerolls.
always enjoy watching everyone in league battles, battle reports, and narrative battles cuz its awesome seeing the funny shenanigans an just seeing everyone have fun keep up the good work ^^
@@bradleygunther5722 GK are not broken. They have one play style which is thematic and requires incredibly high skill to pull off. It can be countered. If they were broken you’d see them at every top table like Necrons, Aeldari, Sisters, CSM etc.
This looks like an epic battle to write about or see animated or something. Two armies chasing each other by teleporting through time and space (or tumbling through the warp)
It may have already been done by you guys, but is there a series that does like "historically accurate" Warhammer battles, like I for one would love to see recreations of the great crusade
Best battle reports ..close up of the action not just a top down of some dice rolling !! ....and georgeous figures ! ....you paint them all yourselves! ?😲🙏
Always quality games. I've been largely relegated to painting my Admech, but the Cogs remain ready to serve the Omnissiah's will. Good gaming to you folks across the pond.
Grey Knights and Necrons. Literally my favorite Chapter and Faction. The Grey Knights are my favorite group period, and Necrons are my favorite faction in general. I always love seeing them at the table and if I could build any army; it would be pure Grey Knights.
Great Batrep! GK are one of my favourite armies at the moment! Deep strike does count as a normal move however so you can use mists to get away from it!
The Designers Commentary explicitly states units arriving from Deep Strike cannot trigger abilities and Stratagems that are used after a unit makes a Normal Move 🙂 -Chef
Ahhh we completely forgot about Strike First 🤦♂️. Though if we'd remembered, I'd have just had the Technomancer 100% behind the ruin footprint and thus out of LOS, so Precision wouldn't have been usable -Chef
Hey guys! Quick question regarding GKs. I thought you could not use Narthecium to recover models if your unit is in reserves because you cant place the model into coherency?
Fantastic to watch However I Just noticed that you didn't reduce the damage to Crowe when the death marks shot him. He took 4 but really should have only taken 2 wounds Also unless I missed something you didn't do the anti infantry 4+ on the purifiers you should have done mortal wounds in the 1st turn
nice terrain and nice backdrop display. had the same problem of the carpenters laying the LED strips leaning towards the insides and turns out the miniatures displayed look really dark. was it on purpose for studio recording purposes?
The Final is available to our OnDemand members here 🙂 tabletoptactics.tv/2024/04/30/league-final-grey-knights-vs-chaos-space-marines-warhammer-40k-league-report/
Not that it mattered, but just want to point out that you forgot to use Foresight of the Prognosticars on Crowe, meaning that the first time he would lose the 2 wounds, he would instead have received none. The Devil Crowe is on 3 wounds remaining, not 1 ;)
You can't deep strike onto Objectives in No Man's Land or your opponents Deployment Zone, but as the Objective was in mine, per the Scrambler Fields it was allowed. This was noted in a pop up on the top down view when it happened 🙂 -Chef
This League tournament is indeed finished now! It’s available On Demand via our website - www.tabletoptactics.tv and App, available on iOS and Android (just search Tabletop Tactics). Hope that helps and thanks for the interest!
@ochigdor Also in lore, they're Magnus's Soul Shard juiced (possibly geneseed as well) 'propaganda states made from Big E geneseed' by the Sigilites et others. Their lore has them not trained/brain-programmed like Astartes as they're focus-trained against daemonkind
As a C’tan aficionado (and Wraiths, and Destroyers, and Immortals) for many years already and in the Index, its great to see them have a day in the sun. It's less great to see them everywhere because they're just too efficient. Gotta own when they're too much though 😅 -Chef
@@tabletoptactics Fair enough. The Redeploy rule specifically says it happens before the game. And the TCtan ability also makes no mention of Redeploy. Otherwise I've been doing it wrong all this time 😂
A fair point, though for what it's worth the Designer's Commentary also states that any unit repositioned counts as arriving from Reinforcements for rules purposes, so that also covers it 🙂 -Chef
Correct, but given you don't score Turn 1 it's often better to pull the Objectives back so you aren't just giving them to your opponent to control early on
When you roll a 1 on vortex of doom you do not get feel no pain against it becouse its not an attack. Sanctic hood only works against psychic attacks and this is same with Typhus ability.
Mists is explicitly when a unit finishes a Normal Move, Advance or Fall Back within 9" of the unit, so by definition it can't as Deep Strikes have to be over 9" away. That and the latest Designer's Commentary says things like Deep Strike don't count as Normal Moves for abilities such as Mists 🙂 -Chef
Trying to work out Lawrence's list and he seems 200 points short based on his breakdown at the start of the game. Did he accidentally play 1800 vs 2000?
Let's go grey knights!also st 1:40 chef said the necron overlord got cover from the psycannon but the psycannon should ignore cover. It's OK chef I forgive you :D
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49:50 Once again TT shows the epitome of sporting behaviour: Chef reminding Spider that his Librarian's Precision ability can be utilised after the number of wounds is known 👏
Might be late to the news here but just seen that you hit 200k subs. Congrats, long live the memory of thw kitchen!
Thanks mate! Been nearly 10 years now! Crazy! ❤️🕷️
@@tabletoptactics Not sure I wanted to know that...😂👴
🤣😜
@@tabletoptactics at this point im am certain yall have memorized all of youre fans from the beggining
Watching Chef and Spider go at it is a true clash of the titans(lol), and a tactical masterclass for their armies (pity they don't play my chosen forces).
Grey knights don't get a whole lot of love, much less a whole lot of wins, so seeing them get more matches is everything to me rn
Yeah, I moved here from Play On since they stopped using Gray Knights. And in the one episode they did I could tell they weren't the most excited about using them
I think you should write your own FAQ. I recon a lot of people would use it.
If you do, you should call it the "Chef AQ" !
This 100%!
Yes please, do this.
As a GK and Necron player it doesnt get better than watching my armies being played by two skilled players! This was epic!!
Can I ask which do you recommend starting? I'm new to the game and interested in both armies for first army
@@collincarlson3932 I would suggest Necrons. They have a good modern range of models, a few different players styles and showcase all 40k elements. GK are an elite army with an old model range and quite a high skill army that takes a lot to learn.
@@collincarlson3932 I too play both necrons and GK, definitely recommend necrons first as they are easier to learn and if you loose a few guys it's not as punishing as losing a GK
As a movement shenanigans enjoyer I don't know who to root for! May the cheesiest win!
Great game and video as always. Chef’s Blues Brother reference was A++++
Great Game Guys! One of my first two armies were Grey Knights, and I love Necrons too. This was awesome! "Vortex of DOOOOOOM!".
What a great and interesting game. Everyone being so mobile was really interesting. As always, a fantastic battle report and an awesome match to start up the semi-finals!
I am always pleased that you guys know to make good television with polite conduct at the table
Should have shouted KAMEHAHMEHA when you had the three vortexes of doom going into the destroyers.
Great game gentleman. Love seeing the grey knights in action, I’ve been looking into getting their combat patrol box as my first army.
Fun game, good showcasing for each army. I personally prefer Canoptek Court, with Szeras and a CTan. Szeras' aura and rerolls with the tesla immortals, or even gauss immortals is so good. Szeras is basically a CTan, but gets rerolls and can be protected by strats. Wraiths get rerolls and infiltrate, plus the movement strat is really good with them. Doomstalkers with rerolls and a spyder for the FNP. Some heavy Lokhusts to pop vehicles/monsters. Maybe Hypercrypt is stronger/more competitive, but I just love rolling dice and the court gives so many rerolls.
always enjoy watching everyone in league battles, battle reports, and narrative battles cuz its awesome seeing the funny shenanigans an just seeing everyone have fun keep up the good work ^^
I love yalls energy and all the fun you bring to your games! 👌
Great game that was a BLAST to watch.
Callidus Assassin has always strikes first. Should have attacked before the Wraiths.
Good catch (should've learnt Spiders rules better haha!). She might've even taken out a Wraith if she got lucky 🙂 -Chef
ngl, that Grey Knights army looks like a really fun list to run
Looks like a nightmare to play against. Grey Knights Broken
@@bradleygunther5722 GK are not broken. They have one play style which is thematic and requires incredibly high skill to pull off. It can be countered.
If they were broken you’d see them at every top table like Necrons, Aeldari, Sisters, CSM etc.
This looks like an epic battle to write about or see animated or something. Two armies chasing each other by teleporting through time and space (or tumbling through the warp)
It may have already been done by you guys, but is there a series that does like "historically accurate" Warhammer battles, like I for one would love to see recreations of the great crusade
Great report! 🤗 Love that the both of you reason and disclose your train of though.
Best battle reports ..close up of the action not just a top down of some dice rolling !! ....and georgeous figures ! ....you paint them all yourselves! ?😲🙏
Always quality games. I've been largely relegated to painting my Admech, but the Cogs remain ready to serve the Omnissiah's will.
Good gaming to you folks across the pond.
40:30 the overlapping audio is really difficult to hear, accidental editing mishap?
Very strange, must have been a Nurgling in the machine 😅 Fortunately only for a few seconds 🙂 -Chef
Thank you for playing GK, I am learning a ton right now.
Brilliant game guys! Really enjoyed that.
27:30 My boy crowe negates the first dice's worth of damage to 0
Ahh forgot about that. Good thing it made zero difference 🙂 -Chef
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT! 👍
Grey Knights and Necrons. Literally my favorite Chapter and Faction. The Grey Knights are my favorite group period, and Necrons are my favorite faction in general. I always love seeing them at the table and if I could build any army; it would be pure Grey Knights.
There's so much good fun between friends here. A great game to watch :)
Glorious grey bois vs shiny Space Marines: what better way to start a Saturday? :D
Great Batrep! GK are one of my favourite armies at the moment! Deep strike does count as a normal move however so you can use mists to get away from it!
The Designers Commentary explicitly states units arriving from Deep Strike cannot trigger abilities and Stratagems that are used after a unit makes a Normal Move 🙂 -Chef
@@tabletoptactics I’ll get back in my box 😂 this ‘simplified’ edition really isn’t that simple 😂
Oh boy! This is exciting
Thanks for the show as always
Nice blues Brothers reference chef
Can we get a playlist for these? I'd love to see them in chronological order
Gg awesome game. Edge of my seat!!😅
the callidus strike first/precision might have taken that sneaky technomancer
Ahhh we completely forgot about Strike First 🤦♂️. Though if we'd remembered, I'd have just had the Technomancer 100% behind the ruin footprint and thus out of LOS, so Precision wouldn't have been usable -Chef
That, my dear sirs, was AWESOME !
Hey guys! Quick question regarding GKs. I thought you could not use Narthecium to recover models if your unit is in reserves because you cant place the model into coherency?
I am once again requesting the paint recipe for those grey knights nemesis force weapons!!
Congrats on 200k legends well done
Shiny movement jank. Nice!
Could go either way on football kicking. In a way, you cede control of the objective by leaving. If you sticky it, it would be different.
Those Pesky 9” charges are trouble to rely on. Too many times has it let me down
1:09:50 "Do you understand? I'm talking to *you*, dice gods!"
AMAZING GAME
Great game, lads!
Great game again from both of you!
Hope you have time and intrest to participate to some tournaments in future. Im sure you shall prosper if you do👍🏻
I’d love to know how you would adapt Necrons for the latest points increase? Thanks
Did you forget the Callidus Assassin has fights first?
Yup. Unlikely it would've made much of a difference though 🙂 -Chef
Thank you.
I'm saving money to start my first army and games such as this tempt my financial stability as much as antwyr...
Such a great game!!!!! TT the GOATS!
Turn 2 for necrons when they precisioned crowe: he reduces the damage to 0 for the first failed save each turn. (foresight of the prognosticars)
Yes we missed that, but it made no difference 🙂 -Chef
What colours are used for that Ceramic effect on the Wraiths? I love it!
I really want to play grey knights (or the guard). I just financially cant afford it at all. Love these vids
Fantastic to watch However I Just noticed that you didn't reduce the damage to Crowe when the death marks shot him. He took 4 but really should have only taken 2 wounds
Also unless I missed something you didn't do the anti infantry 4+ on the purifiers you should have done mortal wounds in the 1st turn
Watching this whilst I'm painting my void dragon 😁😁
nice terrain and nice backdrop display. had the same problem of the carpenters laying the LED strips leaning towards the insides and turns out the miniatures displayed look really dark. was it on purpose for studio recording purposes?
Good game, gents!
Do all the wraiths have the vicious claws only if they're damage 2? Are the whip coils just decorative?
Just decorative 🙂 -Chef
Cheers Jeff 🫡 I'm a new necron player and trying to steal ideas
Go Sons of Titan
Really like the look of your GK, do you have any close up pics of them?
46:05 What was Chef talking about here?
I'm winding Spider up with a made up rule 😅 -Chef
@@tabletoptactics You're so evil! 🤣🤣🤣
Where does it say the purifier squad can shoot all their weapon profiles? I thought only monsters and vehicles could do that
Nice one, where can I find the final?
The Final is available to our OnDemand members here 🙂
tabletoptactics.tv/2024/04/30/league-final-grey-knights-vs-chaos-space-marines-warhammer-40k-league-report/
"I disagree with this rule so I won't use it even if I'm handicapping myself"
Still comes into the video 3-0. Absolute gigachad.
Love listening to pinky
Cheers to the everlasting fallacy of the Necron spirit 🍻🐄
As for GK, clean your suits, you muddled sticks.
Not that it mattered, but just want to point out that you forgot to use Foresight of the Prognosticars on Crowe, meaning that the first time he would lose the 2 wounds, he would instead have received none. The Devil Crowe is on 3 wounds remaining, not 1 ;)
We did. Even more devilman than before! -Chef
@@tabletoptactics
_Who is that?_
_Who is he?_
_Can it be the devil?_
_The devilman. The devilman!_
Those Wraiths need to be rebased onto 50mm
Not 100% sure but it looked like necrons in round 4 deep struck onto objectives which I thought the mission rule didnt allow.
You can't deep strike onto Objectives in No Man's Land or your opponents Deployment Zone, but as the Objective was in mine, per the Scrambler Fields it was allowed. This was noted in a pop up on the top down view when it happened 🙂 -Chef
@tabletoptactics thanks for pointing that out I didn't see the note. Interesting.
If this is the semi finals, is there a planned date for the finals? I really wanna know if the Grey Knights can take this home.
This League tournament is indeed finished now! It’s available On Demand via our website - www.tabletoptactics.tv and App, available on iOS and Android (just search Tabletop Tactics). Hope that helps and thanks for the interest!
I'd really love to know what model kit the hammer the overlord has is from?
At 46:06, you guys bring up activating Canoptek Protocols for an additional FNP 4+ - I’m unfamiliar with this, where does that come from?
It's a made up rule to wind Spider up 😅 -Chef
Just spent 20 minutes trying to figure this out 😂
What was the GK loadout?
14:00 wounds on 3+
Wouldn't the grey knights be better paired against a chaos army ?.
Or doesn't their lore-abilities count in tabletop battles ?.
Do Gray Knights not get oath of moment? that could have helped in the first round with the -1 to hit.
That's for Space Marines, GK get Teleport Assault 🙂
@@tabletoptactics ok thanks I just assumed all space marines got it.
@@jp847TECHNICALLY Grey Knights count as a different faction, despite clearly being Space Marines
@ochigdor Also in lore, they're Magnus's Soul Shard juiced (possibly geneseed as well) 'propaganda states made from Big E geneseed' by the Sigilites et others. Their lore has them not trained/brain-programmed like Astartes as they're focus-trained against daemonkind
At leads Chef is shameless about his C'tan cheese 😂😂
As a C’tan aficionado (and Wraiths, and Destroyers, and Immortals) for many years already and in the Index, its great to see them have a day in the sun. It's less great to see them everywhere because they're just too efficient. Gotta own when they're too much though 😅 -Chef
Dice fight!
Wouldn't the TCtan still be able to move onto a objective? It doesn't go into Reserves or anything. It just teleports onto the objective?
Scrambler applies to Scout, Infiltrate, any Reserves, and any redeploys, which I'd argue the T C’tan counts as doing 🙂 -Chef
@@tabletoptactics
Fair enough. The Redeploy rule specifically says it happens before the game. And the TCtan ability also makes no mention of Redeploy.
Otherwise I've been doing it wrong all this time 😂
A fair point, though for what it's worth the Designer's Commentary also states that any unit repositioned counts as arriving from Reinforcements for rules purposes, so that also covers it 🙂 -Chef
Hahahahaha 😃😄😁😆😅 5 Smile's as you can tell its a little childish but i was going grey from the intro....
Excuse me, you two are having too much fun. Don't you know this is serious business!?
Only 15 minutes in but aren't you pushing the objectives towards the opponents deployment zone in Servo Skulls? Not your own?
Correct, but given you don't score Turn 1 it's often better to pull the Objectives back so you aren't just giving them to your opponent to control early on
@@tabletoptactics I hadn't actually thought about doing that!
Is this 10th edition?
Tesla always sounds nice until armor saves. Triarch stalker gauss lover, season whith szeras.
For the GKs, that list cant be 2000pt, With that load out I am 20 pts over. Can some one explain?
This guy sounds like pinky from pinky and the brain.
Where is the final ?
It's available for our OnDemand subscribers 🙂
tabletoptactics.tv/subscribe/
Not gonna lie, i think you missed callidus had fights first. But it wouldnt make a huge difference anyway
You're not lying, you're correct. It was missed, and wouldn't have made a huge difference 😅 -Chef
When you roll a 1 on vortex of doom you do not get feel no pain against it becouse its not an attack. Sanctic hood only works against psychic attacks and this is same with Typhus ability.
Per the Designers Commentary, any wounds inflicted by a Psychic Ability counts as a Psychic Attack 🙂
@@tabletoptactics Hatchi machi, some judge during a big tournament I went to really had it wrong then.
Deep stroke doesn’t trigger the mist? Why not
Mists is explicitly when a unit finishes a Normal Move, Advance or Fall Back within 9" of the unit, so by definition it can't as Deep Strikes have to be over 9" away. That and the latest Designer's Commentary says things like Deep Strike don't count as Normal Moves for abilities such as Mists 🙂 -Chef
Trying to work out Lawrence's list and he seems 200 points short based on his breakdown at the start of the game. Did he accidentally play 1800 vs 2000?
Grey Knights League! (2000 Points)
Grey Knights
Teleport Strike Force
Strike Force (2000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Brotherhood Librarian (110 Points)
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Purge Soul
Brotherhood Librarian (140 Points)
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Purge Soul
• Enhancements: Sigil of Exigence
Brotherhood Librarian (110 Points)
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Purge Soul
Castellan Crowe (75 Points)
• 1x Black Blade of Antwyr
1x Purifying Flame
1x Storm bolter
Kaldor Draigo (125 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Scourging
1x Storm bolter
1x The Titansword
BATTLELINE
Brotherhood Terminator Squad (210 Points)
• 1x Terminator Justicar
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Storm bolter
• 4x Brotherhood Terminator
• 1x Ancient’s Banner
1x Narthecium
4x Nemesis force weapon
1x Psycannon
2x Storm bolter
Brotherhood Terminator Squad (210 Points)
• 1x Terminator Justicar
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Storm bolter
• 4x Brotherhood Terminator
• 1x Ancient’s Banner
1x Narthecium
4x Nemesis force weapon
1x Psycannon
2x Storm bolter
Brotherhood Terminator Squad (210 Points)
• 1x Terminator Justicar
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Storm bolter
• 4x Brotherhood Terminator
• 1x Ancient’s Banner
1x Narthecium
4x Nemesis force weapon
1x Psycannon
2x Storm bolter
Brotherhood Terminator Squad (210 Points)
• 1x Terminator Justicar
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Storm bolter
• 4x Brotherhood Terminator
• 1x Ancient’s Banner
1x Narthecium
4x Nemesis force weapon
1x Psycannon
2x Storm bolter
Strike Squad (125 Points)
• 1x Justicar
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Storm bolter
• 4x Grey Knight
• 1x Close combat weapon
3x Nemesis force weapon
1x Psycannon
3x Storm bolter
Strike Squad (125 Points)
• 1x Justicar
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Storm bolter
• 4x Grey Knight
• 1x Close combat weapon
3x Nemesis force weapon
1x Psycannon
3x Storm bolter
OTHER DATASHEETS
Purifier Squad (260 Points)
• 1x Knight of the Flame
• 1x Nemesis force weapon
1x Purifying Flame
1x Storm bolter
• 9x Purifier
• 4x Close combat weapon
4x Incinerator
5x Nemesis force weapon
9x Purifying Flame
5x Storm bolter
ALLIED UNITS
Callidus Assassin (90 Points)
• 1x Neural shredder
1x Phase sword and poison blades
@@tabletoptactics Ah, I see my mistake. I took 4 Characters and only 3 Terminator Squads. That ones on me ;)
Getting overlapping audio weirdness at around 40:15
Apologies, must be an edit error. Hope you’re well mate! Been a long time ❤️ Lawrence
sad the list and point values don't match for the spider
This was shot before they changed the points values of the Grey Knights in the last MFM :)
Shouldn't the callidus have fought first?
Man I'm dying waiting for the Troll Hoard game promised by Val!
Let's go grey knights!also st 1:40 chef said the necron overlord got cover from the psycannon but the psycannon should ignore cover. It's OK chef I forgive you :D
You're thinking of a Heavy Psycannon on a Dreadknight. The normal Psycannon didn't change in the Dataslate 😅 -Chef
Ahhh I redact my pervious statement. Ty sir
FIGHT!