TUTORIAL How to Open A Digital Planner on Android - Samsung Tab S8 Ultra

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  • @-kohakuma-
    @-kohakuma- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    Sadly I notice apple users are very biased and don't really try to familiarize themselves with Android os before they pass judgment. Apple is very restrictive, and a customizable OS like Android seems to scare them. But they like customizable apps like procreate so it really comes down to bias. The issues you ran into were fixable on the Android. Onenote is free. And the comment that folks aren't buying samsung tablets because you tried to order it from a non official seller on Amazon is just- wow. Its ok to have preference, but trying to pass fear of change as preference isn't cute. Android is an open source os that believe in sharing, so many brands use it (samsung, Google, etc) thats why the sales aren't as obvious since Apple restricts their sales to only 1 company. Smh

    • @LogarAcc
      @LogarAcc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      So true!! Apple users seem to forget that the vast majority of the world uses android instead of their little (almost cult like) operating system

    • @paullebon323
      @paullebon323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Who cares? I don't want Apple users around. I prefer to make fun of them at a distance.

    • @jayc1139
      @jayc1139 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don't forget another thing about Apple which is likely a big reason that most of the planet uses Android, which is...pricing. You'll find a variety of products of different prices using Android. Samsung itself having very low to very high end phones for instance. Apple, I guess in their failure to do the same well, only has 1 phone type, which is high end, is also expensive in itself (even if it's used or renewed). All their other hardware is also super expensive, when you can get the same quality with Samsung laptops for instance for almost half the price sometimes. Apple is also a pain ITA when it comes to ease of file transfers between phones and computers. Apple REALLY tries to keep Apple users almost strictly within their own Apple Ecosystem, it's sad when a company isn't open.

    • @DarkAshes27
      @DarkAshes27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are poisoned once the apple is bitten.

    • @JazzoRenee
      @JazzoRenee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen.

  • @JHMKruse
    @JHMKruse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    When you are in your planner go to the upper right of the screen and hit the 3 dots and go to page view and you can select if you want to scroll pages left & right or scroll up and down like you did in your example. I have been using Samsung notes for many years and it is the best for importing and using digital planners with hyperlinks.

    • @haroldjordan7286
      @haroldjordan7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I use samsung notes also. But it has lag. I am using the galaxy tab S8+. This is a fast tablet and I have lag with the planners that I have downloaded. Do you have lag when using samsung notes?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@haroldjordan7286 Hi Harold: I have super lag with trying to connect to Google Drive with Samsung Notes but using the actual planner is fine. I haven't noticed a lag - how big is your file? XO Lisa

    • @haroldjordan7286
      @haroldjordan7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PrettyFabulousDesigns One file is 6MB and the other is 5MB. Do you think that is large?

    • @brendaovalles7500
      @brendaovalles7500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for this!!!💙💙💙💙

    • @EllenC2222
      @EllenC2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha... Nothing is impossible for Samsung! 😂

  • @stephaniebarcikowski5171
    @stephaniebarcikowski5171 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Android is way superior to Apple. More control over customization/personalization. Not finding many decent planner videos on Android. Makes me think I should do a few videos. Samsung Notes, Penly, and Noteshelf are pretty decent. The 1st 2 I mentioned are even great for syncing across the Android ecosystem.

    • @leuchtturmarngast9741
      @leuchtturmarngast9741 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, please make some videos. You can do so much with Android note apps. But if you don't know how to use them right, you miss out so many possibilities

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Stephanie: So glad to hear you're loving Android's planner/notes features. As an iPhone and Mac user, I'm pretty locked into the Apple universe so all of the cool syncing features across Android are lost on me. But I still love my Ultra Tablet. XO Lisa

  • @inspirem2031
    @inspirem2031 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have seen so many tutorials using an ipad, that this video is very different. Greatly appreciate it.

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right?! It's like no one is talking about anything but iPad! XO Lisa

  • @Digiclub101
    @Digiclub101 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omgosh I have been searching for apps to open planners on Android thank you

  • @sherrsam
    @sherrsam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Helpful video, thanks!
    I'm new to Samsung Notes, and tablets in general, and was wondering how to use digital planners on them. Regarding the scrolling mentioned in the video, you can scroll vertically or horizontally in Samsung Notes. To choose, click on the three dots and then page settings and it then it lets you choose whether you want to scroll vertically, horizontally, or 2-page horizontally. (You can also choose the background color there as well).

  • @al3xj
    @al3xj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love it, practical to the point - I came from the video you mentioned (open and it's just there, with no mention how it got there, except to sell it) - love the tone of the channel great work! 🙏

  • @TheCurlyFitChicOriginal
    @TheCurlyFitChicOriginal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You have to actually get to know the tablet and what settings to use based on how you will utilize it. The same as when you purchased your first Apple product. I'm sure you didn't just pick up your iPhone, iPad, or Mac and automatically know everything the product could do or open an app without there being a learning curve. Therefore, I'm not sure why you would not have attempted to do that on the Samsung Tab S8 Ultra before putting out this video. FYI, this is coming from a tech person who uses and has iOS, Android, and Windows products. I need them all because I need to know what's going on in the tech space and to help family and friends when needed. My overall favorite for phones and tablets is Android. Specifically Samsung. Android allows for actual customization, unlike iOS. Depending on the brand, it is usually more difficult to learn, and the reason why I always suggest an iPhone for those that aren't tech savvy or grandparents. I use my iPhone and iPad for the few apps I don't have on my Samsung devices and my dogs air tags.😅

  • @ms.mustlovecats1556
    @ms.mustlovecats1556 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video was certainly helpful, thank you for the info.
    I got a Samsung tablet as a Christmas gift, ( I knew about the tablet BEFORE Christmas, 'cause it arrived via Amazon on Christmas Eve and I was present when it was ordered online, so I wasn't surprised 😁 ).
    That said, I appreciated the narrator of this video, I apologize but I forgot her name, taking the time to do a tutorial on these devices and her personal opinion on both tablets.
    Merry Christmas to the host and viewers reading this comment.
    Posted: 25 Dec 2023

  • @ghaffarellis
    @ghaffarellis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly, you haven't come back to this gem a year later.
    It's the best thing even with the shortfalls.

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi there: I actually only use my Android for watching TV. I still find the iPad better for everyday use because it has more apps like Adobe apps, Affinity apps and integrates with my iPhone and Mac. If I were an Android phone user, I'd probably be the opposite. I do still like writing with the SamSung Tablet better. XO Lisa

    • @ghaffarellis
      @ghaffarellis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seems we speak in years lol.
      It's still the best device I've ever purchased.
      You are absolutely correct about those Adobe and Affinity apps, 😢
      In still not pleased with the battery experience because of how much I use it.
      Tradingview and Sketch Design will eat this thing alive within 6 hours.
      Thankfully, the 45 watt charger speeds up that recovery.

  • @felipenreyes5208
    @felipenreyes5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for telling us from the off how to get the planner. Yes many show it but never show how to install.

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Felipe: Awesome - so glad you found that useful! XO Lisa

  • @courtneyj5409
    @courtneyj5409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been looking for a video like this! How did you get your planner imported in the Xodo?

  • @happyhoochie
    @happyhoochie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wait a minute.. if you prefer the scrolling on the iPad why not just switch Samsung notes to horizontal scrolling??

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, as luck would have it, I can use both and go back and forth so I don't even notice anymore. Do I need an iPad and a Tablet...probably not but I do use them both everyday. XO Lisa

    • @kkandmommyshow
      @kkandmommyshow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PrettyFabulousDesigns Don’t feel bad. I also use my apple and android tablets daily. They both have their place.

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! XO Lisa

  • @AkoToMarjon
    @AkoToMarjon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You can change the settings so that scroll from left to right

  • @margarethal5063
    @margarethal5063 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exactly the video that I need ❤

  • @ritajackson7715
    @ritajackson7715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is everything. Thank you for this video.

  • @ktonechai
    @ktonechai 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Supreme thanks for your sharing. I'm heading towards Stab bcoz it comes with its pen!

  • @lauraimaginehatco4736
    @lauraimaginehatco4736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you so much! I have been looking for this information for days! Excellent examples... I know exactly what I need now 😊

  • @AJ-ye3nq
    @AJ-ye3nq ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your video. I have been looking for a video like this. ❤

  • @ponchobob
    @ponchobob ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By importing as PDF in Samsung Notes, one of the most important functions is lost. The calendar months and other pages are actually linked with hyperlinks in the document by the planner designer. This function is lost when importing as PDF in Samsung Notes. However, it is possible to load the planner as a page layout in Notes, but then it is limited to a file size of 5MB. Samsung Notes does not allow more than that

  • @jeffreywolf8104
    @jeffreywolf8104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will this stuff work on the S9 Plus?

  • @cliftonsmith
    @cliftonsmith ปีที่แล้ว +9

    OneNote is life changing when you know how to use it

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi CS: It looks amazing - but it just doesn't work. Like it always fails or screws something up. It's possible I'm not using it correctly but glad to hear it's working well for you. XO Lisa

  • @moreOfChriiya
    @moreOfChriiya 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where do i find this social media planner PDF? I'm wondering why that's not mentioned in the video or any link of it in the description or did I miss it? 😅

  • @sallamariaherrera
    @sallamariaherrera ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, not sure if someone commented about the scrolling on Samsung note you can change it swiping left and right instead of the up and right 🤗

  • @allexj8203
    @allexj8203 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if anyone was looking for the Goodnotes alternative for Android and can't find it, know that I searched for a long time and FINALLY found it: Noteshelf. It does OCR of handwritten and keyboard text, and allows you to insert images into the PDF. Finally a fucking decent app I've tried at least 40 of them

  • @daa6704
    @daa6704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From editing pages on the same page, then you can drag them to the right 😸 ( samsung notes )

  • @shashwataghosh9899
    @shashwataghosh9899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U can swipe side by side in samsung notes too. Just change page settings

  • @sukankshinivarakuru2065
    @sukankshinivarakuru2065 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:58 go to more options, page settings u get scroll options choose horizontal scroll direction

  • @sellingdigital
    @sellingdigital ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a really helpful video! I shared this with my subscriber who needed some assistance with a customer. :)

  • @jacky5297
    @jacky5297 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just need to DOUBLE TAP on the screen to have the Samsung tablet waken up, you can turn this function off if you prefer to press the side button instead

  • @marionettedonete9710
    @marionettedonete9710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wheres the case from???

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Marionette: It was really hard to find - it's not on Amazon. But it's definitely the best case. You have to buy it direct from Samsung www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/tablets/galaxy-tab-s8-ultra-book-cover-keyboard-ef-dx900ubeguj/ or they sometimes have them in stock from Best Buy. I did some cheaper ones for sale on eBay too. Good luck! XO Lisa

  • @ro2409
    @ro2409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you don't want to write with the pen can you type in the digital planner? I am looking into buying a tablet. But not sure how this works.

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ro: Yes, sort of. You can definitely add typed text anywhere you want but it won't automatically create "borders" for your text like a fillable PDF. You'll have to re-size your text boxes for it. You could definitely do that but it wouldn't be the most efficient way to use a digital planner. It's really meant for writing in with a pencil. If you just want to type everything, then just stick with a laptop/computer. XO Lisa

  • @mrtienphysics666
    @mrtienphysics666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why do you find the Apple user experience better than the Samsung user experience despite the brighter colours and bigger real estate? Is it because there are more apps in the Apple ecosystem?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mr. Tien Physics: As a Netflix viewer, I love the Samsung but for everything else the iPad is just better. There are better apps, more apps that actually work [I do find the Android app store to be full of too many useless and non-working apps], more tutorials for those apps... Until Samsung becomes more popular, I think iPad is still better for apps. XO Lisa

  • @leedababy7786
    @leedababy7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so enjoyed this video !!!!

  • @kristipokornowski8143
    @kristipokornowski8143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a reason the screen on your Samsung is so pink? Is there a way to adjust it?

  • @coulorfully
    @coulorfully ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you!!!

  • @gabyigl
    @gabyigl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello and thanks for the video. I have a Xiaomi tablet so I can't use Samsung notes, but i can use Xodo like You said. Thanks. Where i can find a digital planner un PDF¿??

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Desde Mendel: You can find a ton of digital planners on Etsy! XO Lisa

  • @paldamoeba
    @paldamoeba ปีที่แล้ว

    You can actually change settings to swipe sideways in samsung notes.

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the helpful tip, PaldaMoeba! XO Lisa

    • @paldamoeba
      @paldamoeba ปีที่แล้ว

      @PrettyFabulousDesigns your video was veery helpful. Thank you.

  • @Jennifers_Channel
    @Jennifers_Channel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay I have the Samsung galaxy tab and I can't see how to actually write on the pdf

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jennifer: You need to change the mode from view mode to note-taking mode while you're in the Samsung Notes app and for most of the other apps. Otherwise, it thinks you're just using the pen as a mouse. XO Lisa

  • @PauliePizza
    @PauliePizza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi can you tell me what is the size of the pdf I made a pdf in illustrator to the screen size of my tab but it seemed alittle small still.

  • @GamerMama83
    @GamerMama83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to get the social media planner you are using. Where can I find it

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Tricia: You can get it at www.prettyfabulousdesigns.com/shop XO Lisa

  • @michelleneuman9309
    @michelleneuman9309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the links are not working

  • @jessicamoore6098
    @jessicamoore6098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does Samsung notes hyperlinks work as well?

  • @gustavojauregui2424
    @gustavojauregui2424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there an interactive planner? instead of the pdf....

  • @itskarinayt8121
    @itskarinayt8121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here's a tip from an Android user
    You can make the book as a swipe so it looks like a book

    • @pearliemccall
      @pearliemccall ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for this tip. How can you do that?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Pearlie: You can change that in the settings. XO Lisa

  • @-crazyinlove-
    @-crazyinlove- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video 💚

    • @-crazyinlove-
      @-crazyinlove- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where did you get you tablet case ? Can I have a link ?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the visit

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there Budget with Crazyinlove: Yes, it's the greatest!! You can buy it directly from Samsung www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/tablets/galaxy-tab-s8-ultra-book-cover-keyboard-ef-dx900ubeguj/ or sometimes I've seen it at Best Buy and eBay .But it's not on Amazon. XO Lisa

  • @garybradshaw2258
    @garybradshaw2258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a planner for the S7+ to use in notes? Where do get the download?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Gary: I don't know of any planner that is specific to that device but any annotated PDF planner should work just fine on your S7+. XO Lisa

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      And you can download them from Etsy!

  • @Jadestar83
    @Jadestar83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the links in the pdf work in the Samsung Notes app?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jade: Yes, they do! XO Lisa

    • @danceintoshape
      @danceintoshape ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you talking about hyper links?
      I have a Samsung tablet and I want to use it for digital planning. I downloaded a planner into Samsung notes and the hyperlinks don't work. Did I do something wrong?

  • @imenabaji5634
    @imenabaji5634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it Subsribed or one time pay

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Imen: They all vary so you'll want to check the fine print on the pricing very carefully before purchasing. XO Lisa

  • @ambersmith4550
    @ambersmith4550 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Help! My spen does not make the scratchy sound and i need that 😅

    • @chrisd4454
      @chrisd4454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need the notepaper screen.

  • @selinaydn9898
    @selinaydn9898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did u get that notebook 😫

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Selin: Are you asking about the case?: It was really hard to find - it's not on Amazon. But it's definitely the best case. You have to buy it direct from Samsung www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/tablets/galaxy-tab-s8-ultra-book-cover-keyboard-ef-dx900ubeguj/ or they sometimes have them in stock from Best Buy. I did some cheaper ones for sale on eBay too. Good luck! XO Lisa

    • @selinaydn9898
      @selinaydn9898 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PrettyFabulousDesigns no no I was asking about the journal

  • @mohamedseddig5878
    @mohamedseddig5878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about a computer without an emulator?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mohamed: Not a clue what an emulator is so I can't answer this. XO Lisa

  • @Elley19
    @Elley19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you sync xodo on iPad and Samsung?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that I know of

    • @BeautyAmplified
      @BeautyAmplified 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. I have a Galaxy Tab S7+ and an iPad. I've synced between both, as well as my Windows laptop.

  • @Ckhydroponic
    @Ckhydroponic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why i can not click button go the automatic

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there CK Garden: Where are you running into trouble? Is it a certain app or is it trying to download the planner PDF to your tablet? XO Lisa

  • @WaleAnimashaun
    @WaleAnimashaun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can swipe sideways in Samsung notes by going to the "Page view" option on the top right of any note
    Apple has better watches, laptops, desktops and monitors than Samsung.
    Samsung has better tablets and phones than Apple.

  • @KhmerTarotReading
    @KhmerTarotReading 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Battery Issue is a red flag
    Please take it for checkup or it will be major issue later

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there: I was told that the battery is fine so I returned and just ordered another one so we'll see if it's any better.... XO Lisa

  • @MisterBenne
    @MisterBenne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its nothing more than just a diary or poetry album. Not useful for busniness and planning. Only lasts for a year. Need to get new one for each year. Not compatible to each year edition, so there is no option to search "which task I did on which date (years/ month ago)"

  • @JanhayFalthom-fc6yi
    @JanhayFalthom-fc6yi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drawing black paper print and covering book cover TV laptop or tablet screen or phone case
    You tube or tablet laptop mobile phone

  • @shileisdead2247
    @shileisdead2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only Samsung tablet?

    • @PrettyFabulousDesigns
      @PrettyFabulousDesigns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Marko: I don't understand your question? But I have both an Ipad + the Samsung Tablet - I use them both. XO Lisa

    • @MrsFearlessVP
      @MrsFearlessVP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello, is this a planner you made and if so where can I purchase?

  • @chrisd4454
    @chrisd4454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, at least you taught me how to open a planner I downloaded but hadn't a clue of how to use. Sadly you don't find Android useful so I'll unsubscribe.

  • @securityeagle9144
    @securityeagle9144 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well I'm not as rich as you and can't afford to pay for everything I was to do on Apple or 1200 dollars to get an iPad.

  • @9Tailsfan
    @9Tailsfan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just saying these devices are both tablets.😂 You could say iPad and Android.

  • @tanjatippmann5322
    @tanjatippmann5322 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are toooo fast speaking....

    • @sailortaurus4912
      @sailortaurus4912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is a feature with YT where you can slow the video down. Click the gear > click playback speed > then select the speed - either 0.75, 0.5, or 0.25

  • @rickcorel5154
    @rickcorel5154 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pressured speech is when you talk faster than usual. People could have trouble following the conversation