a bit morbid, but i'm so fascinated what a saber duel "to the death" would look like. I don't imagine getting a light cut on someone's shin when their adrenaline is pumping would really bring them down, and that adds a whole new dimension of risks to weigh
It would probably be a gradual walk towards death. Footwork and arms are vital for fighting. As the legs and arms get more cuts, footwork and swordplay gets harder to do. Eventually, they either mess up and expose their vitals or their arms and legs are too damaged to continue fighting.
Death by a thousand cuts is a real thing, exactly what the guy above me says. Even a blow to the face wouldn't take someone down necessarily and that's why it's important to keep yourself safe when striking (for fear of getting doubled)
Civilian duelling sabre was typically first blood since no one wanted murder charges ... you would have to prove the other guy came at you with lethal intent, hence the emphasis on quick cuts. Here is footage of an actual duel from 1914 th-cam.com/video/WfraOOZJafc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=N9UesaVUAoEeidVN
@@Ianmar1 True, but the important word in that sentence is "typically", I have seen a photo of the aftermath of a sabre duel in Italy were one of the combatants is down on the ground... and several feet further on is his head.
God damn, this is so awesome. You got me to grab my Feder and start practicing some of the cuts and guards I've been learning while I'm watching. I almost went a day without practicing since I started Hema, you have seen to it that I haven't broken my streak, thank you!
man I wish I could train saber with you guys. Your footwork and tempo is really coming along, I feel like I could learn so much from y'all! Lets get some saber in at GF! -Colin
It took me a second, but i was trying to figure out how i recognize the other fighters stance. then i looked at the description and saw it was the other hema creator i follow. you can tell from the way he moves he did foam fighting at one point or another.
idk if its too much work but with the "blood" its sometimes hard to see where exactly or how exactly the hit went. Would love some slowmo closeups of some of the hits, so you can actually see the hit. (mostly asking cause Im an artist/ animator and I love studying fights)
Love this. I would very curious on you stance thoughts: In my (very limited) experience with broadsword we focus on regimental style that keeps the weight almost entirely on the back foot, except when lunging, but I notice a lot of front weighted stances here. Is this from an older style? Or is it just what you have found to work best for you? Do you have any thoughts, pro or con, on the always back-weighted approach?
These dueling sabers are a bit too fast for me :D hard to follow what's happening compared to long sword bouts. Those slow motion sections really help. Cool and educational.
Why are most of the offensive movements these big circular actions? It looks so slow compared to the Olympic sabre, where the cuts are more often flicks than full-arm movements. Is it because of the weight?
Olympic sabers are usually about 400 grams. These are closer to 750 grams. Also, Olympic saber doesn't worry about quality of hit, edge alignment, or anything else. You just have to touch. With these you have to make a cut that had intent, quality, and edge alignment
If you're at a club it's best to ask whoever the main instructor is. Generally speaking you want a bit of flex in the weapon because a stiff blade hurts more and is less safe
@@brighterphantom4530 that shouldn't really be an issue with our swords. They're most flexible along the flat, and you should be parrying with the blade. The strong of the blade, in particular, since you have little leverage to parry with the further sections of the sword anyway.
I love how many of these exhanges were settled by a quick flick of a wrist. Really showcases the nonexistent margin for error
I swear FalseEdge's legs are made of rubber. My knee could never.
My joints hurt just watching....😂
how many injuries has your knee already had, you poor soul?
I tried to follow in his steps but.... Perhaps reducing weight to the lower limit of the standard range can make myself more agile.
Robinswords commenting on a spar between Sellsword and FalseEdge is nearing on avengers level
Great fighting. I’m no expert on real fencing but I can tell this is incredibly skillful.
I am loving these new long form sparring videos
a bit morbid, but i'm so fascinated what a saber duel "to the death" would look like. I don't imagine getting a light cut on someone's shin when their adrenaline is pumping would really bring them down, and that adds a whole new dimension of risks to weigh
It would probably be a gradual walk towards death. Footwork and arms are vital for fighting. As the legs and arms get more cuts, footwork and swordplay gets harder to do. Eventually, they either mess up and expose their vitals or their arms and legs are too damaged to continue fighting.
Death by a thousand cuts is a real thing, exactly what the guy above me says. Even a blow to the face wouldn't take someone down necessarily and that's why it's important to keep yourself safe when striking (for fear of getting doubled)
@@Arcavi0us there's certain strikes here that i think would result in doubles if the opponent kept fighting for even a split second after the hit
Civilian duelling sabre was typically first blood since no one wanted murder charges ... you would have to prove the other guy came at you with lethal intent, hence the emphasis on quick cuts.
Here is footage of an actual duel from 1914
th-cam.com/video/WfraOOZJafc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=N9UesaVUAoEeidVN
@@Ianmar1 True, but the important word in that sentence is "typically", I have seen a photo of the aftermath of a sabre duel in Italy were one of the combatants is down on the ground... and several feet further on is his head.
God damn, this is so awesome. You got me to grab my Feder and start practicing some of the cuts and guards I've been learning while I'm watching. I almost went a day without practicing since I started Hema, you have seen to it that I haven't broken my streak, thank you!
I love seeing other forms of sword fighting. This really makes me wanna pick a saber up!
Absolutely ace fighting! Love the pure sparring content.
man I wish I could train saber with you guys. Your footwork and tempo is really coming along, I feel like I could learn so much from y'all! Lets get some saber in at GF!
-Colin
It took me a second, but i was trying to figure out how i recognize the other fighters stance. then i looked at the description and saw it was the other hema creator i follow. you can tell from the way he moves he did foam fighting at one point or another.
It seems like these video titles get faster every time. Next thing we know it’s gonna go to light speed then LUDICROUS SPEED! 😂
I was thinking dizzying, but ludacrisly is good too
They’ve gone to plaid
Josh is a hell of a fighter and always fun to go against.
I love these videos as well as your other ones
That looks like fun!
idk if its too much work but with the "blood" its sometimes hard to see where exactly or how exactly the hit went. Would love some slowmo closeups of some of the hits, so you can actually see the hit.
(mostly asking cause Im an artist/ animator and I love studying fights)
I'd love to be able to do that. But I need to upgrade my camera.
Have my eye on one, but it's a bit out of the price range for now
Would it be possible to show the hit marker as an empty circle? Then we'd be able to see the exact place of hit.
Love this. I would very curious on you stance thoughts:
In my (very limited) experience with broadsword we focus on regimental style that keeps the weight almost entirely on the back foot, except when lunging, but I notice a lot of front weighted stances here.
Is this from an older style? Or is it just what you have found to work best for you?
Do you have any thoughts, pro or con, on the always back-weighted approach?
Beautiful!
Dueling sabre be zesty
WOOO! more friendly sparring!!
preventing someone from saying first🔥
by the way theres a minor spelling error in the title, just saying.
Grrrr
I see it.
These dueling sabers are a bit too fast for me :D hard to follow what's happening compared to long sword bouts. Those slow motion sections really help. Cool and educational.
Awesome
Cheers
Awesome stuff!
What's the overall length of the sabers you guys are using?
Great!
i want that black with red trim coat. where can i get it???
Why are most of the offensive movements these big circular actions? It looks so slow compared to the Olympic sabre, where the cuts are more often flicks than full-arm movements. Is it because of the weight?
Flicks look a lot like thrusts, which were considered lethal intent for legal purposes.
It is slower because they are wielding much heavier weapons.
Olympic sabers are usually about 400 grams. These are closer to 750 grams.
Also, Olympic saber doesn't worry about quality of hit, edge alignment, or anything else. You just have to touch. With these you have to make a cut that had intent, quality, and edge alignment
I have a question.i got a practice sword, but it's not flexible. Is this a problem? Btw, it's polypropylene.
If you're at a club it's best to ask whoever the main instructor is. Generally speaking you want a bit of flex in the weapon because a stiff blade hurts more and is less safe
What sabre are you using here?
I need to know. Are thicker swords as are often seen in historical media this flexible? Say a rapier for instance.
Our practice swords are made flexible for safety reasons, real ones would usually be quite a bit stiffer.
@@ActionCow69 The reasoning for why is solid. I just wish a parry or block would actually parry or block. Maybe I have a skill and perception issue.
@@brighterphantom4530 that shouldn't really be an issue with our swords. They're most flexible along the flat, and you should be parrying with the blade. The strong of the blade, in particular, since you have little leverage to parry with the further sections of the sword anyway.
@@ActionCow69 That answers my question
Красиво. Только парень слева сильно открывает локти. Вместо того, что б закрывать эту брешь саблей.
It's rapier ?
Incorrect
Are they fencing saber with epee rules? I noticed a lot of leg shots although the target area for saber is the waist up
Dueling saber is full body target
This is HEMA saber, not Olympic saber, so there is no one unified ruleset. Though most HEMA has the full body as a target.
Why start this close
At what point does this just become sport fencing?
When we use sport sabers and sport rules
Their technique would improve if they slowed down. Most hits are slobby blocks.
Second
never gonna give u up
My disappointment for you is immeasurable
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 more like extremely slow