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- The Navy has confirmed to NBC News it detected sounds consistent with an implosion or an explosion through an underwater acoustic listening device. NBC's Tom Costello reports.
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#NBCNews #Submersible #Titanic
I feel sorry for the 19yo guy who didn't want to go, but did just to please his Dad. Poor guy.
how do you know this?
Fake news stop spreading rumors
Not fake his aunt said he never wanted to go it was for his dad's sake
@ozvill9453 its true. His Aunt gave an interview and confirmed this. Just google it.
@@ozvill9453 It's not a rumor. Suleman Dawood's aunt stated that Suleman told her he didn't want to go.
I’d rather hear that it was quick rather than imagine suffering for days just waiting for the air to run out 😣😢
Exactly
fighting each other over the last breaths of life, like crazed cavemen.
instantaneous was good, given the alternative.
(a prior customer described how they turned off lights for the 2.5 hr descent. and HOW COLD the submersible was at the bottom while squirreling around 1500 dead people. "If they're alive, they're sitting in the dark and unbelievable cold.")
submersible also didn't have CO2 scrubbers - so the amount of O2 was immaterial (no matter what company and msm hyped)
@@kenanacamporait was instantaneous death there was no breath to fight it’s like when the challenger blew up they were incinerated immediately these people were turned to puddy
I thought it was a giant squid 🐙 that caught the vessel.
Apparently according to a family member, the 19 year old kid was terrified to come on board but was pressured by his father and agreed to come because it's Father's day.
Condolences to the family.
Dude, if that's true, that's completely messed up! Poor guy.
That's life, try to make your own decisions
well now they both get to argue with each other in whatever afterlife there is
He should have gone to the Blink-182 concert...
Stupid is as Stupid does.
What's concerning about this is that we have no idea if the sub was serviced after each trip. I'm grateful that no one on board felt any pain, especially the 19-year-old who went on for his father even though he was scared. Rip
It was most likely serviced but the CEO bypassed the regulations needed to inspect the vehicle after each dive prior to this.
@@JerBuster77 regulations are not the same as "best practices"...CEO by-passed "best practices" if inspecting the vehicle after every dive was a "penny-wise and pound foolish" financial decision...here's another one-liner bottom line - "more money than brains"...
I could care less how or if it was ever serviced, anyone with even half a brain would not even get on that thing. Signing a waiver with DEATH LISTED SEVERAL TIMES and it didn’t raise any RED FLAGS??? Hope it was worth it. That company did saynit offered a trip of a lifetime.😊
@@JerBuster77 I'm pretty sure it was known that it was never serviced after each trip
I’m not a marine mechanic but I can tell you that for a fact after each dive to that depth the halls integrity itself becomes more and more compromised from the enormous pressure that it goes through and after so many dives there’s no way that it could retain the same level of pressure that it took as the first few dives and without a doubt the CEO surely must have know that but kept on pushing the limits in the name of profits and greed, May they rest in peace ✌️
The more information revealed, the greater sense of understanding about this is appreciated. So, when this story came into being Sunday evening, the submersible was already doomed, and the occupants deceased; although in this situation because of the value of human life, in no way was hope diminished for them. Many around the world were hoping for the best outcome, including me.
Indeed, the value of human life is into billions.
@@Engineering_ScienceCan't really put a price on life.
Sub had multiple fail safes to refloat so it must have imploded which was obvious upon a quick Google search. I'm positive they new this when they began the "search". Countries had to make it seem like they gave it a good effort and the news was only to happy to report "only 20 hours of oxygen left!"
Why would this be enlightening? It made a sound? Of course it made a sound...
@@pauliewalnuts240 Are you Paulie Walnuts from Street Beefs?
The sub imploded WAAAY before the search
A lot of money 💰
That's the same thing I said but in The United States you have to put something in media to put people at ease...... I hope they actually show the debris
I hope this leads to a requirement/regulation that ANY submersible constructed MUST meet the safety standards of the country it is constructed in. Avoiding regulations/safety requirements because it is dropped in "international" waters is not acceptable. The sub was hinky overall. Just my opinion.
Yes... and when Republicans like Mr. Trump tell us we should "roll back Regulations" and "we must reduce Regulations" remember what happened here today, and realize that Regulations are simply guidelines of experience hard learned and hard fought for that keep people and systems safe...
@@BillySBCwhere did trump talk about deregulating submarine operations, it just sounds like you can’t get your mind off of him
@@terpinkov8770Umm Trumps administration was alllll about deregulating a bunch of industries and etc. Look at what they did with the EPA and national parks. Republicans love to deregulate and allow companies to cut corners in the name of saving them money. That comment you responded to was very valid.
@@BillySBCI agree and disagree, I mean if you can have experimental aircraft then why not experimental subs and boats ? With that said idk if experimental craft need to be carrying passengers in a commercial sense.
@@BillySBC buddy. The company exploited the loophole of regulation by stating that the sub was experimental hence it was not subjected to regulatory requirement. Maybe read up on it before spewing uninformed comment.
Submariners have said that they wish for a quick hull-collapse death over a lengthy one. The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Humans incinerate and are turned to ash and dust in an instant. The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond. A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds. Condolences to the families and immense gratitude for the efforts of all the agencies involved in the search and rescue operation.
In layman’s terms they never knew what hit them.
This is the best comment of the bunch. Thanks!
The comment I didn’t know I was lookin for
But they weren't even all the way down at full depth. Who knows when had happened so it might not have been that fast. Could have crushed slowly and water rushed in and kept getting crushed and drowned till they met death.
@@ant5094 the carbonfibre doesn't give slowly, it suddenly shatters, from what i understand. but from current information, it seems they went down too fast and tried to slow down or get back by ditching ballast. it's possible that they hit the ground with some speed, slow, but faster than anticipated, which might have led to immediate implosion.
Unfortunately, even if their deaths happened in milliseconds, they probably knew what was coming. I imagine the sub started to make creaking noises and other signs of failure. My deepest condolences go out to all of their families and everyone who made such an effort to try rescuing them..
I thought about that. Eerie.
It would have made noise regardless. At that depth, the moment it was breached it was destroyed.
If it made those kinds of sounds, it definitely happened well before any real distress. After that, just one more creak and the whole implosion happens all at once
They also had warning sensors for hull integrity. Alarms were going off
They knew for 20 minutes that there was errors and they were not able to ascend fast enough while hearing cracking noises.
So sad but imploding would've been the most humane thing. It's instant and painless. Rip 🙏
Nothing says love like imploding..
not a bad way to go, considering
Hopefully it happened so quickly they didn't know what was about to come.
@@GnomeChomsky9999and paying well for it too
Shut up nimchimpsky
Edward John Smith was the captain of the Titanic in 1912. He went down with the ship & died. Age 62. The body was never recovered. His skeletal remains likely lie on the bridge of the ship where he commanded it. He faced his death with courage. 1500 other souls went to the bottom on the ship. He is still Captain of what is now a ghost ship, Remembering Captain Smith & how he was forced to increase speed at the peril of the ship by the CEO of the shipping line. Who later fled & escaped on a lifeboat. RIP Captain Smith, April 1912.♥️🚢⚓
I doubt a skeleton is left after 111 years. Anywhere where water may have gotten before reaching the ocean floor likely had bacteria enough to erode his body
Cool?
@tehran2090 Maybe do your research about exactly what happened in 1912. You obviously know nothing about Captain Smith. You are also clearly racist, When all people are of the same race, the human race & loved by God. You will know this in time my friend.🙏
There are no skeletal remains. It is the equivalent of getting shoved into a juicer in about two milliseconds. That captain and everybody else down there have been eaten by the deep sea crabs and everything else that lives down there
you on a dopamine craving?
This reporter guy actually asked at the press conference - 'what about the bodies?'. He can't be serious.
Most of those reporters are as dull as they come. I highly doubt they know what an implosion would do to a body. They probably picture it spontaneously catching on fire and exploding in a huge ball of flames like an action movie.
Just an uneducated reporter or someone who knows what happens and just wants others to hear the morbid facts.
If he had done some quick research he'd have known those bodies instantly turn to paste.
@@Stealth_boy i don't think many people know what would happen to a body with that much pressure... so it has nothing to do with what he knows but to have an expert explain it for the general public....
...unfortunately the questions they ask, are targeted for their audience who have IQ's at about 100 🤔
....the threshold is lower on outlets who are reporting to the #QanonMaga #QanonDeathQult audience 🤣 It's even lower on #KKKristian and #Prosperity religious outlets, like #KennethCopeland 🤨
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I hope they went so fast that they didn't even know. My deepest condolences to the families and friends and especially the young man's mother.
Exactly who is at the heart of my prayers. She lost her husband and son. Such a loss❤
They did. It was over before they knew it happened.
@@jinxed402I hope man, could you imagine knowing that’s coming? So sad. I’ve been upset all week over this. Breaks my heart
It was an instantaneous conversion to a protein marmalde.
@@PWingert1966yup. Brayn matter would’ve ejected from the eye sockets like goop instantaneously
Prayers for the families. A lot for people saying “just rich people”. Doesn’t matter . They are human beings who had people who loved them, had lives and dreams. Especially the 19 year old son.
May they all rest in peace
lol they are billionaires who cares glad they are gone
Very true. And compassionate.
what about the 100's of lives lost off the coast of Greece??? are you wringing your hands, clutching your pearls and sparing one single iota of emotion or thought for those souls??? poor women and young children, men fleeing war hoping and looking to start a new and better life for their families...WHAT ABOUT THOSE LIVES??? cor blimey, no one forced these 5 idiots to dive 2 miles deep into the ocean, paying 250,000USD a head, playing god...get a clue, get a life, get a hobby...
weird that we all slept on 300+ migrants drowning less than a week ago.
Z312gaming, you’re a sick dude
It’s sad to read that the boy didn’t really want to go but knew how important it was to his dad… 😢
The sad part of it, is that his mother and family will go through terrible trauma. and heartache.
It happened to a friend of mine. Her son go went mountain climbing in the foothills of the Himalayas,. He tragically fell into a narrow ravine. He could not be rescued. His poor mother, lives with this in her heart. How cold, how hungry, how much pain did he have. The mother is still going through the mental trauma.
This boys mother, is going through so much. God bless her and help her. A very difficult time for her .
So sad.
Stop spreading rumours
@@aaronaaron6569 the aunt of the 19 year old literally said in an interview that he didn't want to go
Just as I thought, they already knew they were dead or the likelyhood they did not survive. This was treated as a premier exercise. Hopefully things were learned and arranged during this so that if anything happens again or similarly, all forces know exactly what to do quicker and more efficiently. Major condolences to the family and loved ones in this tragedy. If anything, it is a relief it was at least a quick painless way to go.
It's all pre planned for ratings and money
I only dont understtand Why they delayed that much to send that sub to check in It
They basically paid huge money for their own death's, why do people need to go down to a grave like the titanic🙄 just let it be
@@AmuroGermany agreed. ALL that money could've resolved the lives of those poor that died tryiing find a way to get a better life.
@@emvittI think it was for show the last few days ...something didn't seem right at all ...then suddenly when all hope of air was gone they couldn't with hold anymore people wanted answers as to why they would not just scope near wreckage. It would have looked pretty stupid if they did this and found them all intact and ran out of air ...they were confident they had instantly disintegrated. People aren't stupid ....oh they are searching an area the size of a state they said on American news .....searching with what ? And why ? Just send that thing down and scope it like they always do ...if they were actually thinking they could be alive still .
It's hard for me to imagine the mothership could not have detected the implosion with some of the technology that you would think they would/should have had.
well the did say they lost connection to the sub two hours in so thats why they lost connection
They probably had a idea of what happened but wanted to hold on to hope before assuming worst case scenario.
I don't even think most people are willing to wrap their head around how violent the implosion was. Theirs no identifying the bodies when 5 humans became paste
This whole outfit is amateur at best and should have been shut down years ago.
It is possible they already know what is highly possibly had happened there, but the coast guard, navy, etc does not publish the verdict until the oxygen is no more.
I think they knew. But we’re hoping it was something else. To be honest I’m kind of disgusted that they waited so long to announce this. I get it it took a while to find the debris field. But now oh yeah we had reports of an explosion; we just didn’t think it was important to share that but we should share that we’re hearing banging every 30 min to give home and keep the media story going.
There is nothing to gain and everything to lose by going that deep into the ocean. If you want to see a big ship, there are plenty floating on top of the water.
I can’t imagine how anyone would think that this sub could have made multiple trips to that depth without failure after a trip or two makes no sense to me. Just the simple fact of a semi flexible hull with a rigid metal bowl bolted to it seems like an accident waiting to happen.
The pressure of 400 times atmosphere, is nothing to toy with. But some people will always push the limits and those souls aboard signed the dotted line.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OceanGate
I asked Bard AI what the explosive force of the implosion would be for the OceanGate if it happened at 10,000 feet below sea level. Bard said "In the case of the OceanGate submersible, the force of the implosion would be even greater than 100,000 psi because the sub is made of titanium, which is a very strong material. The titanium hull would be able to withstand the pressure of the water for a longer period of time, which would allow the air inside the sub to expand to a greater extent. This would result in a more powerful implosion."
@@BillySBC I am pretty sure that the hull is Carbon Fiber, and maybe the nose or as I call it a metal bowl is titanium? But I don’t think it makes much of a difference other than the first failure would be at the junction between the two components. You still end up with something far worse than I can imagine. What would you see if you were watching it happen?
@@BillySBC be aware that Language Model AI can hallucinate facts. As the OP said, the pressure is probably around 400bar (5800psi). The AI's claim that titanium hull can amplify that to 100000psi makes no sense.
@@regs3836that metal bowl was GLUED on btw. It was a ONE TIME USE design. That was reused for no reason besides to save money. It’s pathetic.
Other people have taken that exact same submarine, they all lost communication immediately, but gain it back within a few hours. That right there should of said something
When you knowingly decide to be a passenger on a sub not certified to drive into extreme depths of the ocean. It’s held together by fiberglass, gorilla tape and X-box controller to navigate. You chances of making it back a very small.
The military uses xbox controllers also, thats not the problem here.
They've done it before so why not again
@@mochalatte8202drunk drivers say the same thing.
not fiberglass, carbon fiber. carbon fiber actually has a very high tensile strength. if you have a car chances are the chassis is built in part from carbon fiber
It was a PS3 controller
Yeah so everyone was all over the place with reporting this story, I'm glad its resolved and my condolences to the families affected by this.
"These windows are 9 inches thick, and if they go it's sayonara in 2 microseconds"
"Believed to be dead" ??? Does anyone understand what an implosion is?? Imagine putting 5 grapes in an empty soda can. Then drop 3000 pounds on it.. Do you "believe" the grapes are dead?
It's all about word choice and how people frame an outcome of an event. If they put simply that "the sub imploded, and they died," then it would sound too careless. Even if you don't see a reason behind the word "believe", for most people, they register it differently in their heads. Sometimes, sentences shouldn't be taken too literally.
@@rahulradhakrishnan5591
Reminds me of this old joke:
A man left his cat with his brother while he went on vacation for a week. When he came back, he called his brother to see when he could pick the cat up. The brother hesitated, then said, “I’m so sorry, but while you were away, the cat died.”
The man was very upset and yelled, “You know, you could have broken the news to me better than that. When I called today, you could have said he was on the roof and wouldn’t come down. Then when I called the next day, you could have said that he had fallen off and the vet was working on patching him up. Then when I called the third day, you could have said he had passed away.”
The brother thought about it and apologized.
“So how’s Mom?” asked the man.
“She’s on the roof and won’t come down.”
@@ccrider3435 This is such a stupid joke. I love it
*6000 lbs
Welllllll the grapes would be just as alive as they were before if they were just grapes 🤔
So tragic. The 19-year-old had fears about this. Those fears were justified and ignored to please his father.
Stop spreading rumours
Where have you been under a rock? That's what was being reported in all the news outlets.
Every second the sub descended into the deep was sheer terror for the kid. 💔 Prayers
Which god are you praying to? The one that didn't know this would happen, or the one who knew it would happen and did nothing, or the one who caused it to happen because it was part of a Divine plan that he has for us.
@@Danny451 we all have freewill they choose (minus the boy) to go down there knowing the risks
@@A79163 Well if that's the case, why do people pray to him then? josepardo, you hear that? No need to pray because god gives them "free will." This god character didn't care about anyone's "free will" in the Bible, as he was slaughtering someone on just about every other page and laying down the law of not eating shellfish and wearing clothes of mixed fabrics.
@@A79163 The boy (man) was 19 years old. He most certainly had a choice.
Lol no it wasn’t. And God did this. Stop praying to him about it he doesn’t wanna hear it
Carbon fiber is a tricky b. It’s even possible something impacted the sub during its time above water. A seemingly minor bit of contact that no one thought twice about and would show no signs of structural weakness once exposed to repeated pressure and temp cycles could go on to sudden failure.
Indeed. James Cameron just told in an interview that the Titan even had monitors that tracked the condition of the hull in real time, to warn when cracks started to form, which he said was already a sign of absurdity. He also mentioned that he heard that the 5 men had noticed that the hull was failing because they had dropped some weight (I guess he meant the landing rig), in a last ditch effort to resurface.
It was thick enough you couldn't even detect voids. Horribly stupid design.
I’ve had numerous top spec carbon fibre race bikes over the years …
And two of them showed unforeseen hairline cracks after some mileage on them …. I still stand by the strength of the frame , esp with the removal of frame weight benefits ! …. But they are def not indestructible or flawless !
May the unfortunate passengers rest easy now .. god speed !
Thoughts and prayers with all your family and friends!
@@elimgarak1127 But what's important is that the CEO had forgone old people to use young 'talent' with their fresh ideas! We must pay the price to learn more about new and terrible ways to die doing stupid things!
To a lesser degree, it's like Kevlar. Great tensile strength for its weight, terrible shear strength.
Everyone knew. The submarine community, the coast guard etc. they all knew. The search was just “protocol”. People talking about bodies, there’s no bodies..that pressure against a body..i mean…
Exactly.they had to play it cool but they all knew
You mean as in...no identifiable human remains. Truth.
Lol we all knew but the common person is too dumb so we have to waste all these tax dollars unfortunately
make no mistake the navys sonar bouy's and patrolling subs caught the sound of the implosions and likely long triangulated its location. But, one can assume they needed to go thru proper channels about releasing such information as its VERY sensitive in regards to national security. Divulging such information to rival nations is not something you want to do.
They needed to do their full procedure out of respect for the families and friends of the crew. They knew they heard a sound but they couldn't be exactly sure it was from the sub they were looking for. The ocean has lots of sounds that travel many many miles, they probably were 85% sure it was the sub but because of that 15% possibility they would stick to procedure and do a full and thorough search.
I think they already knew like 24 to 48 hours ago. They just played it cool and "searched" for the. To give people hope.
Not sure how many people know but the navy has much of the ocean bugged they started this program during the Cold War to keep track of Russias naval activities.
It doesn't surprise me they heard the implosion you also have to remember sound travels through water better than air so any loud noise could be heard at a long distance.
Exactly 💯
@@FunkSwaggMusiK remeber the media wants views and attention also so they milked this story also
That sub looks like some guy rigged it in a garage. I would back out of the trip the second they told me what they used to steer it and the makeshift bathroom.
And these billionaires fell for it
@@bobbyc912 I'm just wondering the guy is possibly making $1000000 for 4 people for each dive but couldn't afford to buy a decent controller lol
At least it was a super quick death, no pain when it implodes just lights out, they may have had some fear seconds before but at least they didn’t suffer
They screamed after it blow up
@@samuraisoros5846 that’s impossible because an implosion means instant death no screams no fear just lights out
@@samuraisoros5846 your commenting the same thing over and over again is starting to look pathetic
@@sean2015 thx for following
@@samuraisoros5846 not following, trying to avoid...but you're everywhere man
What....they heard the implosion? So why did they tell us about the banging sounds? I'm so confused.
They thought the sound was banging but it was an implosion
That sub went down there 38 times 😮
they should tested 100times without humans if they care security about those experimental subs
And every time it stressed the hull more and more.
😮😮
I bet there was someone on that sub that knew too much….
i think the creator of the sub was just stupid
"I personally have found it kind of difficult to breathe thinking of them."
Rest In Peace to those who were onboard the that submarine.
@@jaydendavis4167 the son of billionaire is
Ok. So they knew it imploded on Sunday. But they have been reporting on it twice a day everyday and now it's Thursday.
So if imploded the during descent then what were those banging noises that were being picked up every 30min
Lies
This is my question also.
It was Dolphins sounds
It’s the ocean. It could have been shrimp, whales, a Russian sub, or a whole host of things. Hydrophones and noise discrimination is highly classified information. There is crazy science behind oceanography
@philmccrackin9260 you are correct, if you see the coast guard information they never said banging noise, it just pickup many noise that need to be process, the media are the one said banging noise,
And the surface ship hydrophone didn't hear it? Hard to believe.
I wondered if the sound is still ticking/knocking now that we have come to a conclusion that the vessel imploded.
They picked up the sound, but there are lots of sounds in the ocean that travel a long ways so they couldn't determine what the sound came from, so they fell back on procedure and committed to the search for the crew of the sub.
Plus, if they picked up the sound, they likely had no clue what it came from for a while, since the sub wasn't even reported missing to the Coast Guard until it had been underwater for 8 hours, likely 6 hours + after the sound was detected.
I mean they had no way of knowing what that even was until way later? Yeah they recorded it but it was nothing substantial theu wouldn't have even looked into it when the sound was heard
You mean the mother ship had no means of listening to any underwater sounds?
It was run by an offbrand Xbox controller.
This whole operation was running on guess-and-check logic.
Of course not. They communicated by text. Meanwhile James Cameron got a call from his wife while he was diving into Mariana Trench…
I'm just glad they went quickly.. the thought of them suffocating to death together is horrifying. Still, this is horribly sad, but its a better alternative than what it could have been. Fly high crew of Titan🕊
If I understand the reports that I've heard over the past few days correctly, the submersible was using revolutionary technology. The problem with revolutionary construction technology is that it often requires revolutionary inspection technology to ensure structural integrity. Some of these reports seem to suggest that the submersible had some kind of acoustic emissions system to detect structural problems. Maybe the system wasn't able to detect an emerging flaw before that flaw grew to the point of complete structural failure.
why they needed to reinvent the wheel?
I asked this question of Bard AI and this is the answer I got...
"Using carbon fiber in the construction of the OceanGate sub was a risky decision. Carbon fiber is a very strong material, but it is also brittle. This means that it can withstand a lot of pressure, but it is more likely to crack or shatter if it is subjected to a sudden impact."
That style of hull doesn't give much warning. Under 6k lbs psi even at five inches thick, once it cracks it's over. It shatters like the old glass pie pans our grannies used.
Yep a very stupid system indeed. How about let’s not use materials that require an alarm that notifies you as it’s failing. The dude was just an incompetent fool.
Not at all revolutionary. Quick and cheap would be more like it. This is the first deep water manned submersible implosion in history.
The navy knew since Sunday that they were all dead, but I guess they couldn't come forward with that information and risk countries not coming out to help search just in case what they heard was something else.
Did you watch the video? The Navy did provide that information. The search and rescue operation was conducted anyway.
i know right, every one who are goverment worker know thing like this are big money making
They owed a search to the families. They needed to be absolutely sure one way or another.
There also may be national security implications for the Atlantic underwater hydrophone network. The signal processing/sensor resolution on them are as secret sauce as US air defense systems capability. They needed third party sources to cover for any info they had determined from defense assets
Anyone with a brain new that on Sunday
The fatigue stress with repeated dives...
reminds me of that Hawaiian airline flight that did a lot of short hops between islands and ended up losing a big chunk of its fuselage during a flight. So scary!
Similarly, the British De Havilland Coment crashes of the 1950's through metal fatigue...
Sucked a flight attendant out with it. That's an unreal way to go. I would've thought I was having a nightmare while it was happening.
What an horrific tragedy. This probably sounds terribly callous, but if there can be such a thing as a ‘better death’ under these circumstances, I feel that a sudden explosion would be preferable to asphyxiating slowly over a period of days. Profound sympathy to the loved ones of the lost. 🙏 😔
Implosion* there is a difference
They are billionaires,we don't care
@@chakibbenmohamed4563Still people, being a billionaire doesn’t make them bad.
@@dansor27 No sympathy for idiots that have paid 250k dollars to experience death inside of a drain pipe with no seats .
@@chakibbenmohamed4563They are still human beings.
This piece of information is very helpful, verifying that the implosion happened early,
Thanks for this newscast. This is probably why the US dragged their feet in approving the transport of some materials. If they heard an implosion Sunday they made calculated guesses that transporting more gear would be a costly waste. This is such a tragedy that could have been avoided, our hearts go out to the crew and families and especially the 19 year old.
I think that Moder Ship heard the implosion too knowing that the communication was trough the hydrophone type device. They just wanted to give the glimpse of hope to everybody involved
I thought robots were normally used to test new technology, such brave men😢
Well they also knew there was no realistic way to save them if by some miracle they were alive and only stuck at the bottom of the ocean.
Depending on how deep they were, the pressure would have been immense! Every square inch of that vessel would be under TREMENDOUS pressure. If there were no safety standards, it isn't surprising the vessel failed.
1:35 - WOW... coast guard commander knew it was a dead sub all along right at the get go, but still gave hope for uncertainty. They also allowed for us to believe the 30-min interval banging noises...
the 30 min interval banging was made up by the news. they only said they registered sound but it could be anything and they will get it checked by sound experts. the news made it to "they heard SOS morse codes in 30 min interval".
banging sound was also reported during search & rescue for imploded USS Thresher. I wonder what is this sound. Bubbles? fish?
I think everyone knew or pretty much had a feeling that there was no chance they would have survived. But like with any disaster or in this case when something is missing out of respect for the peoples families, they have to go about it in a step by step politically correct fashion. The ocean is a different beast. I fear water, that's why I love it so much
@@anchorread68but the sounds had a pattern to them. Happened every thirty minutes for three minutes, from what I heard. I know sound can travel far in the ocean, but who knows where the source of the knocking came from.
Learned about the sunday explosion sound detection just yesterday in TH-cam's comment section of all places.
they could hear that in international waters, our us military and other world militaries got eyes and ears literally every corner of the planet, even in our hands.
Yea it was a little obvious there was more they weren’t telling us. They had told some rescue teams that they weren’t needed befor they found the sub
Oh, now tell what we weren't told. Is it ancient Sumerians?
@@RideAcrossTheRiver we weren’t told that the navy picked up the sound of the implosion shortly after the sub had submerged and that they reported it to the coast guard. Did you not watch the video?
All the bubbles coming up next to the support ship should have been a giveaway too just saying
bubbles? Nah fam, the force from the implosion was so violent that for a couple of nanoseconds, the temperature inside the compressed sub rivalled that of the surface of the sun. The air inside wasn't just released, it wasn't just evaporated, it was literally turned to plasma and vaporized entirely.
@@ConnorisseurYT yeah they won't find any human remains at all. Not even ashes.
@@sean2015 gone, reduced to atoms.
I'm glad this channel made this video, because I want to hear the Implosion, I used to think the loud bangs were them, scared from the pitch black and no air from the crap and urine, no food or water to eat or drink, but now I know its the sound of the loud Implosion.
My son is 10 and my daughter is 15, and I cant stop thinking about that poor kid dying because of the arrogance of billionaires.
WHY do they keep calling it a rescue operation when they can't physically GET that thing up to the surface??
why would anyone agree to take that trip down their know the those conditions
@@RaincloudReviews Literally have no idea the fasination of going to see a 100+ year old ship at the bottom of the ocean...
So the Coast Guard knew about the implosion early on, but nonetheless acted like it didn't happened, and gave 100% of their efforts to search and rescue. I love this attitude!! RIP to the crew.
No, they did not know. What they knew was there was a possibility of the vessel being lost due to implosion based upon acoustic sounds, but that was not 100% proof of it. Stop trying to find some sort of fault or conspiracy with the fact that they had to put effort into locating further proof that those people were dead.
You did not get it right. When the search started they dropped sonar buoys and did not pick up any sounds that are consistent with the implosion. They only picked up those banging sounds to which they said they are investigating as there are many sounds under the sea that could have made it. Note that sonar buoys are really sensitive to sound but it cannot determine what sound that is so it needs another equipment or thorough investigation before they can tell what that sound is. Meanwhile, when the Navy said they picked up a sound consistent to an implosion is referring to when the Titan began to lose contact after its 1 hour and 45 mins descent. So yes during the time they were continuing the search means they knew already that something had happened to the submersible but they still went ahead with the search. We owe it to them because we wouldn't have known what really happened if they stopped right when they were fed with information about the possible implosion.
regardless of what they thought might have happened, they still had to go through their contingency plans. what if it was a faulty equipment reading and they could've been saved but you'd already decided that they were goners. that's more acceptable in your mind?
You mean wasted time and money on a search and rescue of people dead and evaporated already.
The realization likely came as the frame was found. But at the same time, the Titanic has been mapped over and over. The rov may have found the debris days ago and they waited to say anything until people were already thinking the worst. Considering the value of the men aboard it's possible the news needed to be managed so repercussions could be mitigated across companies or even countries.
Rip to all effected and my condolences to the families and friends
Back in the 60s the Navy lost two nuclear subs to implosion in the Atlantic USS, scorpion USS thresher The navy’s underwater sensors were so good they knew very close to where the scorpion was off the Azores, and it was found very close to where they thought it was fast forward to 2023. I’m sure the technology is a lot better than it was a 1968.
Pretty eerie even Wikipedia has already updated their biographies with the “was” terminology.
How is that eerie lol
Imagine the camera guy caught the implosion on video as they're going down I'm surprised that submarine even made it that far tbh scary that they went willingly an paid a qtr of a million dollars
thermodynamic expansion and contraction can do weird things when you descend from warm to cold or vise versa.
So did they drop microphones before they descended because how did they manage to capture the implosion sound? Was microphones already in the water and they happened to capture it?
Carbon fiber is simply not a good material for building a submarine vessel. It is a polymer, which means it requires an acrylic bonding agent to mold parts together. The problem is that acrylic which is plastic don’t do well in water. Water 💧 actually breaks acrylic down with repeated exposure. It’s never immediate, hence the reason the vessel successfully made the trip a few other times. The carbon fiber in itself is 5x stronger than steel. It’s the bonding agent used for the fiber that most likely failed. This is the reason why many professionals in that field did not agree with having the public ride in that vessel. It was very experimental.
Carbon fiber bikes have led to death when the fork broke catastrophically while going down hill
Is this the reaaon why Triton submarines makes their hull from aceyllic 😂
Or roofs and windows are made from acrylic. Its sensitive for UV, not WATER
You are absolutely wrong.
Were you expert in Virology too with Covid pandemic?
Very experimental... like covid injections 😆
Especially probably salt water lol. I don't know anything but it just sounds like if someone put a basket in the water and filled the tiny holes with plastic and expect it to float.
@@Markush444 It's like if it's one piece of molded plastic like a bucket it will hold water but carbon fiber just looks like a bunch of "fibers' weaved together which means multiple areas where it will split
Can't believe they took such a dangerous trip
Money buys a whole lot of things, brains and common sense are not among them though.
Why are we just now finding out that the navy heard the sound of an implosion all along. Very fishy.
@opsec
They've known the crew has been dead ever since they lost contact. They continued lying to everyone by claiming they could hear someone banging on the interior walls of the vessel. They gave family members false hope of a rescue. I guess that ridiculous story of _"banging sounds and 33 hours of oxygen left"_ was their way of giving family members ample time to gradually prepare themselves for the devastating news. Incidentally, why is the Navy just now letting us know they heard a loud implosion on Sunday?
So strange that the day they where suppose to run out of oxygen all of a sudden they find a debris field in front of the titanic. How did they not see the debris the past 4 days ???
My condolences, specially to the young guy, such a tragedy to lost his life so young.
I had so much hope for them people man it’s Crazy & Sad at the same time. R.I.P…
The film shows a full diameter view window from inside the craft .... but a tiny window outside ? Explanation anyone ?
RIP at least they went fast if it was an implosion. They didn’t even know they died. 😢
Why are we so obsessed with this story? 100 people have died in a capsized boat off of Greece 3 days ago why are we not talking about that?
Keep on crying bro 😂
Because that story would not distract the American public from the Bidens getting charged with criminal offences and getting impeached? Maybe??
So what was the banging sounds at 30 minute intervals that they detected?
there was never banging noise, coastguard report they picking up noise that need to be processed, it was media say banging noise to hype the news ok?
Dirty laundry
Mermaids having a funeral ceremony
seismic activities
The CEO WILLINGLY chose to turn his back on regulatory standards and built that clown car of a submersible which led to him and his passengers' demise.
This is so very sad. It was a tragedy and I feel for the victims families.
But at the same time, this company was warned countless times about this Vessel and how unsafe it was and the owner blew it off and fired the guy for telling him.
All of this is just weird and I know there's going to be conspiracies and fake footage about this now.
Why did it take so long to determine it imploded when they lost communication? You would think they would check that prior
Yeah, I mean, this happened in someone's pool from Lowe's
They did. The US Navy detected it. They reported to the rescuers. The attempt at rescue proceeded because they wanted to be sure that the Navy didn’t detect something else. It is reported right here. Listen to the video.
No doubt the hull gets weakened by cycles of force and no force. Your strength will eventually go down to half of the value it can take, at least that is how it is with axles of a train.
So indeed fatigue.
Carbon fiber... Well, if you know about bullet proof vests, you know that eventually they are written off because they get old. They should have known better, and just build a new submersible.
Darwin award for the owner of the submersible. He could and should have known better.
Greetings,
Jeff
That...and when you laminate carbon mesh even with the expoxy being, sorry, under pressure to get rid of the bubbles inside, while laminating you introduce bubbles.
No problem at sea level, but imagine what these tiny trapped air bubbles do at 400 bar.
@@Kivas_Fajo no clue, get smaller?? I don't think laminating parts is a good idea. Ceramics, would that be good? No clue. They once went 11km down in a vessel. Now that is a lot deeper.
If I were that guy that owned the company, I would have gotten another submersible a long time ago. The guy clearly was not an engineer. Airplanes have maximum airtimes before the frame wears out and gets unsafe. Depending on what stresses you put it through that happens sooner of later. If the construction of the submersible did not take that into consideration, that is a major red flag. Fatigue, corrosion, other wear, it could be any of those.
The guy did with his boat, so i don't know who is to blame, but I'm sure people are to blame. Its neglect at the very least, and it could turn out to be voluntary manslaughter x5.
Submersibles need certification. Period.
Greetings,
Jeff
@@jeffjefferson2676 I have no clue, but I am a fisherman, so I know for sure that a small bumb to a carbon fiber rod, where you can see no damage at all could cause the rod to snap suddenly just at this bumbing spot.
Carbon fibers are good, but certainly not for a submersive.
I hope they release all the sounds and video of the carnage.
There are interviews with the CEO of Oceangate last year in which he acknowledges the glass used for the viewing window is only built to withstand pressures upto 3000 metres. Despite advice from engineers, his arrogant attitude and lack of concern meant he ignored safety advice because a new viewing platform was, in his own words, "too expensive". It was at 2000-3000 metres that the vessel lost contact, therefore it's now clear to see what happened and roughly at what depth. Oceangate knew this over a year ago, and that's the part which angers me.
Hopefully we learn from this, so that more adventure tourists arnt fooled into risking their lives by men like Stockton Rush and his band of cavalier "explorer" engineers.
Can’t wait for “Titanic 2: Tragedy in the Depths”
Fatigue crack... incredible.... They thought this contraption would not be affected by the continuous pressures at depths that exceeded 12,500 feet?? Geez, this was an accident looking for a place to happen....
Revolutionary technology??? My foot!!! If using carbon fibers were so revolutionary for submersible marine vehicles the United States Navy would have already exploited the technology....Please...using directional equipment that can be purchased at your local Amazon?????
No inspection by any International or United States of America Maritime Agency or regulatory agency to ensure the integrity of the submersible vehicle.... No mechanism (that I am aware) for scrubbing the carbon dioxide created by five (5) individuals exhaling in closed quarters for what would have been 8 hours!!!!
It's insane!!!
If the US navy cannot even conclusively detect a simple submersible vehicle, how can it ever detect Russian submarines?
They signed the contract, they knew the risks! YOLO!
I have a missing sub… I ordered a BLT sub with with extra bacon and Uber Eats hasn’t delivered it yet. We’re forming a search party now. 😁
My heart goes out to the families especially to the mother of the 19 year old kid and his father both lost in the tragedy I cannot even imagine their loss.. 💔😢 sending prayers from Pakistan 🇵🇰 🤲
Erm, no.
Except for the 19-year-old, they all had more money than brains.
I listened to Robert Ballard (he found the Titanic in 1985) on ABC evening news last night.
To paraphrase, ‘they were fools, that vessel hadn’t been certified.’
They are billionaires,we don't care
@@chakibbenmohamed4563so?
I can't imagine agreeing to go down to that depth.. in a thing like that... Crazy
I gotta fart
@@FloridaMan69. Judging by your name and comment you lose a few IQ points every time you do.
That's kind of an incredible waste of money and resources. But I'm glad they did it anyway, at least for the families. I can't believe they didn't check the LZ first though
I think Oceangate should be held responsible for the waste of all of those resources from all of the different countries involved. It was clearly fated for disaster and Oceangate was profoundly negligent.
It would be nice to hear it instead of everyone talking about it being detected.
The family of the deceased can't sue OceanGate because the deceased already signed the papers about the risks.
I just hope they went quick....
they went quick
It happened in roughly 1 millisecond. Far more faster than the brain can detect signals from nerve endings.
You would think that if people are spending a quarter mil per trip you would think they would do better with maintenance on a submersible craft that has room for error...
So sad that the Tiranic claimed 5 more lives . RIP Titan crew
So the Navy knew it imploded on Sunday, and we’ve been sweating and anxious the past several days, imagining these people stuck and suffering at the bottom of the ocean?!? Wish they would’ve shared that info.
Because telling the family that they're all dead isn't exactly an easy thing based upon that information alone.
Smoke & Mirrors my friends.
@@jaytaylor2858 Oh, BS. A sound could have been anything. A giant boulder. A burp of methane.
I think they had to go through various channels to get clearance to publicly disclose that information. I'm surprised they disclosed it at all.
@sean2015 The listening system is not a secret. The US NAVY has acknowledged that it was used to locate the implosion of one of their submarines 50 years ago.
BLESS THEM ALL 🙏
My sincere condolences to the families of this tragic event.😢🙏🙏🙏💖
I said this all along: That this deathtrap suffered a catastrophic loss of structural integrity about the time communication was lost. It has been a media storm in a teacup for 4 days.
People need to read up on historical submarine losses, like USS Thresher. They always follow a similar pattern; and 9 times out of 10 it was a loss of structural integrity. Occasionally it’s something else, usually if it’s in more shallow waters.
Yes very impressive, want a cookie?
@@icarustar2457 LOL not impressive at all. It was a common sense expectation.
@@danieleyre8913 Yikes, I can sense your ego from here.
You claim it's a common sense expectation
But common would imply that anyone other than you actually cared enough to put that much thought into it.
@@icarustar2457 What a pathetic attempt at a comeback. Yeah immediately correctly assuming what happened after the news stream bombarded us with stories about this means that I cared about it more than most people. Excellent one (*claps*)…
The US navy triangulated Cold War Soviet submarines using SOSUS within a radius of a few kilometers. They would have known within 2 hours the approximate location of the wreck, but it still takes a submersible a long time to find any wreckage on the sea floor.
K-129
@@jul1440 It wasn't just K-129. The US knew the position of every submarine in the Soviet fleet thanks to SOSUS, they knew where Thresher sank and the other submarine which name escapes me at the moment. This is because of the Oceans deep sound channel which the US studied in the early 1900s. It would have been a secret till today too and the US would still be able to track all submarines in the world, if it weren't for John Anthony Walker who sold the secret of SOSUS and how to make submarines quieter.
probably around 1300-1400 meters below is where it imploded... you know, the depth rating of the window that couldn't get certified past 1300-1400 meters.
That's less than a mile down. I would think they'd be much further down after almost two hours. I'd say deeper than 3000 meters.