Would it be possible to at first upgrade the controller to an BAC 4000 and then later upgrade to an 72v 42 AH batterie or an 60V 53 AHwith the same BAC controller? i cannot afford both upgrades at once I hop you understand what i am meaning sorry for my bad englisch im from Germany
Edwin is something else, he rides the hell out of that Sur-ron and talks about what he is doing at the same time. if that were me I would be too winded to talk at the same. and he gives out the best advice on everything Sur-ron of anyone out there thanks Edwin.
Hey man. The way you have your voice EQ'd during your voiceover this video is perfect. I would recommend using those settings for your grind hard videos. Sometimes your voice gets lost in the background, noise and music. The little bit more bass in it definitely helps! Thanks for all the great content on all your channels.
Almost 2 and a half years later now Edwin, for a guy who wants to go out and grab a cheap, used Surron and give it a bit of a power boost like this, what is the current best bang for the buck? Gotta admit, this video made me want one! :)
🤙 sick buddy I hear this a lot bypassing the battery is the game changer! I've had my suron for a year and no problems but soon I wanna upgrade for more speed and stuff :)
Hi, Edwin. Awesome video, as always. We ride some loops that are literally 22 miles long in Allegheny State Forest, PA, for example, have found with hard-riding on completely stock, at 20 miles you'd better be near your trailer! (Posting video soon of the mile-long walk of battery-ran-out shame on my channel!) I doubt with the extra power the controller somehow keeps the same (or more!) battery life. Also, I have seen ZERO battery often pulling over the finish line. I'm afraid that would destroy a bypassed battery? Realize there are benefits to bypass and controller and just want to not destroy my bikes. Thanks.
I know Im a little late but ive been wondering. Is it worth to bypass a battery due to the decrease in the resale value of the battery? A stock battery can be sold for like 800-1000 but idk if a bypassed one would have a similiar value if I wanted to sell for a 72v.
If you get a bac4000 and a bypassed battery like yourself will it not kill the battery faster or the motor ect? Like dose it do any harm to any parts of the bike or?
Would it be possible to at first upgrade the controller to an BAC 4000 and then later upgrade to an 72v 42 AH batterie or an 60V 53 AHwith the same BAC controller? i cannot afford both upgrades at once I hop you understand what i am meaning sorry for my bad englisch im from Germany
Totally, i first went with a bac4000 and bypass, a few months later i went 72v, it’s insane how fast these bikes get with a 72v. I run 15kw and can pop a wheelie with ease at 30mph
@@Olsson1994 okay thats sick thanks im so looking Forward to next year when i have my surron 😍 sadly in europ you are very Limited to wich Batterie you can buy because its somehow not possible to order a Batterie from the USA
@@oliverkoler7224 yes i know i live in Sweden :) same issue, i got my 72v from PRO ebikes in poland :) can run 23kw on that battery it’s totally insane 😂
Stock voltage means stock rpm. Voltage = rpm so unless you put more phase amps and a smaller sprocket is the only way to make it go faster but doing that decreases efficency
@@geemy9675 yes, people refer to it as a "bypassed battery" in that the battery has bypassed bms. It's not really a good way to say what is done though bc I've seen many confused comments everywhere lol
My idea of a good controller? Once that lasts. I had no idea when i purchased my surron. I did know that I'd have to replace the 1500 dollar battery but i had no idea that controllers are just like tires and chains, they last a little longer, about three years. I have no driver's license and used the surron for transportation. I'm not rich and for me it's not a toy. It was very hard to diagnose the "over current protection fault" in the controller. Without transportation my income was cut to nearly zero and i was in no way prepared to spend the thousand dollars. No way I'm buying a used controller and i am finished with electric vehicles. I'm parting it out i refuse to buy another disposable 1k part.
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I am back to posting every week! Let's have some fun!
Sweet!!
We missed you
Would it be possible to at first upgrade the controller to an BAC 4000 and then later upgrade to an 72v 42 AH batterie or an 60V 53 AHwith the same BAC controller? i cannot afford both upgrades at once I hop you understand what i am meaning sorry for my bad englisch im from Germany
Im here for it
Sick!
Edwin is something else, he rides the hell out of that Sur-ron and talks about what he is doing at the same time. if that were me I would be too winded to talk at the same. and he gives out the best advice on everything Sur-ron of anyone out there thanks Edwin.
Can you post non sped up footage of you doing the bypass? Would be nice to have a follow along vid for doing it myself.
Yesssss finally another video who else is stoked
Yes so happy to be back at it!
@@EdwinOlding I’m also happy that your back at it lol
@@EdwinOlding Yesssss keep em coming!
Spent so many thousands on super 73’s. Spent more on a surron. Spent a few more on the bac 4000 and bigger batt. Now I’m finally happy!!!
Hey man. The way you have your voice EQ'd during your voiceover this video is perfect. I would recommend using those settings for your grind hard videos. Sometimes your voice gets lost in the background, noise and music. The little bit more bass in it definitely helps! Thanks for all the great content on all your channels.
YESSS! Missed your videos buddy! 🙏🙏🙏 *welcome back*
Clicked the video before I recognized who posted it. Subscribed
Amazing video I’ve been waiting for an upload
Im more into my dirt bikes and gas motorcycles, but I would absolutely love to have a go on one of these surons they look so much fun man
So dang cool . Never thought am electric bike would be so badass
Mate it’s always fun modifying stuff she goes pretty hard now too goodonya Ed ride safe cheers
Almost 2 and a half years later now Edwin, for a guy who wants to go out and grab a cheap, used Surron and give it a bit of a power boost like this, what is the current best bang for the buck? Gotta admit, this video made me want one! :)
I love the use of a propane tank for lighting the fire at 1:08
damn that looks likens much fun!
🤙 sick buddy I hear this a lot bypassing the battery is the game changer!
I've had my suron for a year and no problems but soon I wanna upgrade for more speed and stuff :)
You're back!
YES!
bro can i honestly get more range this way. The bike stock is fast enough but i just want more range. I cruise going 30-50 and get amazing mileage
could you do this with the segway x160 battery what would be the benefits if done so?
What does bypassing the battery do? I just got a BAC4000 but didn’t know you had to bypass the battery.
So is this similar to the lightbee X controller? The bac 4000 is not available in the link you provided. What is your friend riding?
Sorry, i found an answer. th-cam.com/video/gBnf3s86ZxU/w-d-xo.html
He still got a 5hp increase over the X controller with the 4000.
Sweet trails Edwin!
They are epic!
Does that bike have thumb speed or grip speed as far as turning on going faster
are you running the BAC on your stock display?
Gald to see someone else went with teznic I've had my bac 8000 with eggrider for almost half a year and have had little to no issues with it
Hi, Edwin. Awesome video, as always. We ride some loops that are literally 22 miles long in Allegheny State Forest, PA, for example, have found with hard-riding on completely stock, at 20 miles you'd better be near your trailer! (Posting video soon of the mile-long walk of battery-ran-out shame on my channel!) I doubt with the extra power the controller somehow keeps the same (or more!) battery life. Also, I have seen ZERO battery often pulling over the finish line. I'm afraid that would destroy a bypassed battery? Realize there are benefits to bypass and controller and just want to not destroy my bikes. Thanks.
Just curious Is that the x160 motor or the sur ron x motor?
Your video says BAC4000 controller but their website says 8000. Does this account for the surprising increase in power?
I know Im a little late but ive been wondering. Is it worth to bypass a battery due to the decrease in the resale value of the battery? A stock battery can be sold for like 800-1000 but idk if a bypassed one would have a similiar value if I wanted to sell for a 72v.
i thought they where out of business. I cannot find them anywhere no facebook or website anymore
If you get a bac4000 and a bypassed battery like yourself will it not kill the battery faster or the motor ect? Like dose it do any harm to any parts of the bike or?
Hi, I thought with bypassing the battery the battery life indicator didn’t work or work accurate ??
Have you already cut the green wire or do you have it on
Is it safe to spray paint (high heat) the controller? It would look way better in black
Don't worry about painting the controller, bypassing the bms is waaayyyyy more dangerous.
Would it be possible to at first upgrade the controller to an BAC 4000 and then later upgrade to an 72v 42 AH batterie or an 60V 53 AHwith the same BAC controller? i cannot afford both upgrades at once I hop you understand what i am meaning sorry for my bad englisch im from Germany
Totally, i first went with a bac4000 and bypass, a few months later i went 72v, it’s insane how fast these bikes get with a 72v. I run 15kw and can pop a wheelie with ease at 30mph
@@Olsson1994 okay and when u switch the batterie do you have to programm the controller new or is did you just swap the batterie?
@@oliverkoler7224 i can just change in the app what type of battery i use :) i have a bac4000 from Green line engineering :)
@@Olsson1994 okay thats sick thanks im so looking Forward to next year when i have my surron 😍 sadly in europ you are very Limited to wich Batterie you can buy because its somehow not possible to order a Batterie from the USA
@@oliverkoler7224 yes i know i live in Sweden :) same issue, i got my 72v from PRO ebikes in poland :) can run 23kw on that battery it’s totally insane 😂
can i use bypass with the X Controller?
how fast should a stock surron with the bac4000 go mines only going 48mph
Stock voltage means stock rpm. Voltage = rpm so unless you put more phase amps and a smaller sprocket is the only way to make it go faster but doing that decreases efficency
What is your friend riding ?
What's up man, how the heck do you know how to do this
phase and battery current?
Purpose of bypassing the battery?
Bypasses the discharge control of the BMS. Cells can handle 110A but stock BMS limits it to around 85-100a(not all set the same).
@@mrskywalker115 hey thanks! Makes sense. I work in micro electronics, but don't know much about charge/discharge systems.
@@mrskywalker115 so it's just bypassing the BMS ? bypassing the battery doesn't really make sense right?
@@geemy9675 yes, people refer to it as a "bypassed battery" in that the battery has bypassed bms. It's not really a good way to say what is done though bc I've seen many confused comments everywhere lol
How tall are and how much do you weigh
im clicking link for parts says error
stock battery????
I need more power on my stock sur ron.
They do need and extra bit of punch!
@@EdwinOlding have to be at balance point to wheelies past 20 lol. I want to be able to power wheelie at 30.
What does battery bypass do?
up the possibility of a fire
Once I get a surron I wanna put a emotobros BAC4000 with a Chi battery 72v
That is a great idea!
I've got this setup and it's incredible! I keep it around 8k - 10k watts out of the 14k, 14k is NUTS! lol
@@Pototoes949 damn! i wish haha, id probably rip it at 14k so i gotta be careful lol
@@Pototoes949 stock battery?
@@joshauth9975 I've got the Chi Gladiator 60v, it's a beast
Why should you remove the tip-over sensor?
i guess bc it cuts power while doing berms or something.
Need me a sur Ron
Badass
Finally
Monthly subscription for the controller app wtf lol 😂 ASI BAC line is a scam when it comes to acquiring it and unlocking app to use.
Fardriver on mail
My idea of a good controller? Once that lasts. I had no idea when i purchased my surron. I did know that I'd have to replace the 1500 dollar battery but i had no idea that controllers are just like tires and chains, they last a little longer, about three years.
I have no driver's license and used the surron for transportation. I'm not rich and for me it's not a toy. It was very hard to diagnose the "over current protection fault" in the controller. Without transportation my income was cut to nearly zero and i was in no way prepared to spend the thousand dollars. No way I'm buying a used controller and i am finished with electric vehicles. I'm parting it out i refuse to buy another disposable 1k part.
You keep saying TEN-ZIC BUT ISNT it spelled TEZNIC lol great vid though
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I had to stop watching because of the horrible music
Hi there! This is KEMIMOTO, one of the top 5 sellers in the auto & motor accessories field.We looked through your TH-cam channel and realized that you make contents on Sur Ron. The videos are so awesome! Now we’re looking for some professional TH-camrs to review some of our products. Would you have interest in working together? Could you please provide your contact info so that we could send you more specifics? Looking forward to hearing from you!🙌