NWBB Blue light Refresher

Burnley Saturday traffic

[@leighclifford7808]

Great video going to sort my Advanced bike training out and volunteer. You do great job keep up the good work

[@MrWhothefoxthat]

you'd be lost without your tom tom. great ride, and thanks for keeping us safe.

[@garyhalsey7693]

Roadcraft demonstrated beautifully!! Awesome video guys, thanks for sharing!

[@ProfMoose]

Thank you. This has made me think may be I can do it. It appears to be observation and thinking ahead - always having a plan. Impressed with the smoothness. Very inspirational.

[@deanroberts187]

Any advanced riding works on those principles.

[@stuartf2946]

Yes, you can clearly see how good and natural you are at this. Great drive.

[@richardsherwin3259]

Loved that!

[@Mark-wt7uq]

This is slower than my ride into work at London rush hour...

[@paulchambers360]

Thank you for the video !!!

[@paulchambers360]

Perfect ! Amazing skills. I will get back into motorcycling after doing my PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor course and PADI EFR, aka First Aid Instructor course, and getting defibs x 2 and training for our village (Kington Magna, North Dorset)

[@richiedofficial4600]

Great job

[@C...G...]

brilliant!
:-)

[@biggstavros5876]

I love this

[@ravenengland9232]

Well I definitely thought he was pro. I was watching it thinking 'this is really good to watch', 'he's moving naturally. As you should'. It wasn't until I looked at the title that I realised this was a training exercise. I was prompted by the return to base. Nice video, thanks for sharing.

[@850990]

Thanks for the comments, been riding for 30 years, fire fighter for 8 years and been blue light trained by the Fire service and Police.

[@LucLuc-p5e]

Sometimes I ask myself why 22% volume in my headset feels like 100% or so.
I might be very sensitive to sudden sounds like sirens or overreacting 😊

[@TheAntHar1]

Did the other rider-instructor park in a disabled bay?

[@biscuitonabike4425]

Nice to see. My BB refresher this weekend. Brushing up before Saturday.

[@galaxy5801]

Does the siren hurt your ears as you're sitting right on top of it?

[@850990]

I wear ear plugs to dull the sound

[@johnhook3979]

I did blood runs back in the 1990s and got pulled over for doing 80mph on a 70mph dual carriageway. I was carrying blood that needed to be on Lowestoft hospital from Cambridge for an emergency operation that was being performed, and I was on blues and twos , I got pulled into a lay-by by police who kept me there for 30mins whilst doing checks, they eventually let me continue, but I got a fine and 3 penalty points for speeding . I was late for the operation and got a nasty response from the hospital surgeon. Luckily the patient survived.

[@bluezulus]

That's because in law you had no legal exemption

[@Carpetslipper]

In making this comment about something happened 30 years ago are you saying you shouldn’t have been pulled over, shouldn’t have been delayed that long or generally making the observation that all police officers are unreasonable and that this painful experience is still an issue?

[@lpfinyt0672]

@Simon Dec The law sees a difference. Ambulances are specifed in certain sections of the Road Traffic Act as being exempt from those sections, whilst human organ (ie Blood Bikes) are not. Human Organ vehicles are however specifed in the Construction and Use Regulations as being exempt from the prohibition of having blue lights and sirens. It's not just Human Organ vehicles, I recall the same anomoly applies also to coast guard, mountain resuce and bomb disposal, but you'd need to check. Conversley, HMRC have RTA exemptions but no blue light and siren exemption. The two are not the same thing. Blue lights merely identify you as an emergency vehicle, they don't give any rights in themselves. Vehicles exempt under the RTA do not need blues and twos on (if they're even allowed them) to be exempt, and having blues and twos does not make you RTA exempt even if you are allowed to have them fitted and on.

[@wessexdruid5290]

@@lpfinyt0672 Yet the copper parked on the motorway at 10:17 didn't seem to have a problem with it...
Nor the one at 16:57.

[@OH2023-cj9if]

And that is a load of rubbish!

[@Master-di4di]

Noisey basket. Can I have a siren? Lol.

[@k93138]

A very professional, safe blue light run! Well done.

[@derekperkins7343]

That was stressful watching, let alone riding.

[@hoomannili]

Was this a drill/training or a real call?

[@biggstavros5876]

Title - `NWBB Blue light Refresher`

[@hoomannili]

Thanks, completely missed the title.

[@850990]

Training

[@gbsgbs5697]

I did not think blue light was allowed any more

[@calbiker4069]

they are still allowed its just extremely rare that they have an emergency call its most of the time an urgent call

[@Eastsussexbiker]

Priority 1,2,3 1 being Blue's n Two's

[@sean5431]

When we all fall ashleep, where do we go?

[@TheAntHar1]

As long as you are not riding that bike at the time...

[@paulchambers360]

I will probably buy a Honda Pan European ST nnnnn to start with and ...

[@850990]

No not a pan, to wooden on the rear end

[@alangee2200]

Clearly unaware of the protocol for siren usage. The long "wail" is used on long clear stretches to warn of the approaching vehicle, this is then changed to the "yelp" when a hazard is encountered ie a junction and then back to the "wail" again. It helps reduce "complacency" of the public.

[@CJW-Media]

Alan Gee that’s what I was thinking, from research I’ve done I felt the use of the siren was incorrect, thanks for confirming that!

[@oliverbradley592]

@TheDailyBiker they would or should be using two tone sirens to indicate the presence of 2 bikers. They could also use the bullhorn if required to gain compliance of other motorists.

[@ttfox0]

Also not permitted in law to use it at all !

[@Jimmythefish577]

@@ttfox0 I think you’ll find it is legal, to allow the rider to make progress through traffic.

[@ttfox0]

@@Jimmythefish577 Sorry, but it's technically not allowed for this purpose, unfortunately the legislation doesn't actually allow it

[@tonymartin3780]

Good ride but didn’t think NBB could go through red lights

[@jimjoelliejack]

They have no exemptions to traffic lights and signs, they are not classed as emergency vehicles, regulations 3, 37(5) and 99 of the road vehicle (construction and use) regulations 1989 does not allow for blood vehicles be it vans cars or bikes to be fitted with lights or sirens. I’m a retired NHS paramedic, if you claim any of the exemptions and you cause an accident then you will need to be able to justify your actions whether it’s your fault or not. Delivery of blood, tissues or breast milk is not an emergency.
Ps I was involved in a serious RTA which was not my fault whilst on a 999, I was arrested and read my rights, investigated and exonerated of blame. Very stressful to say the least.

[@tonymartin3780]

@@jimjoelliejack not worth the risk

[@brushrescue1701]

Since when was blood allowed to do their RoSPA ?? And how does it work with you lot and the speed limits then

[@Eastsussexbiker]

Don’t speed not allowed

[@jonathanfreeman5894]

If you have a full licence and the desire to improve your riding anyone can do the RoSPA course

[@shiftyshamsk]

When biking isn't a recreational activitie.

[@grahamhenry7327]

Agree it’s feckin boring takes any fun out of motorcycling and it’s called Roadcraft obviously invented by the Old bill

[@sunseeker8457]

Great video from a very different view. But turn the sound 100% off and listen to Spotify while your watching this!

[@mrjaybuzzuk]

And the rider didnt move his head once :)

[@wessexdruid5290]

?

[@charlieinsingapore]

All those comments from people getting sweaty armpits over stopping in a disabled park, yet nobody commented on riding most of the time in the centre of the lane in the dust/oil/shit. Ride in the left wheel track or the right wheel track, never in the centre. Instructor in the mirrors was doing it right.

[@TheJbsportstech]

The standard of riding seems generally good, the only issue is speed, Blood Bikes I believe it has been agreed with the NBBA will not exceed the speed limit, as with NHS Blood vehicles you have no exemption to speed limits, you clearly try to you caution but do creep up over 30 limits 36 at one point, on the multi lane in nation speed gets up to 80/81. Do I agree with the limits on a blood bikes I may not but uploading this to youtube could backfire

[@diet-water]

how me and the boys ride on a casual Friday night, but without the lights and sirens

[@Enriquepad]

And parking in a disabled bay.

[@850990]

You are rights, if you know the area, there is 10 bays, none of them used, not an excuse, but wanted to be out of the way of the ambulances, stayed on the bikes for 5 mins debrief and vacated a busy A&E.

[@shiftyshamsk]

Domino pizza boys travel faster. 😁

[@grahamhenry7327]

But are not allowed through any red lights or anything or use speed wtf is the point

[@Jonesykins]

Wrong but okay.

[@rottieman347]

Pretty good through town but totally wrong position on motorway. Lost safety bubble by changing lanes. Dominate lane 3 for maximum safety as no one should be anywhere near you. As for the moaners below, I sincerely hope they never need your services. Thank you for the great work you do.

[@catrincribb1628]

Must be a challenge to restrain the feeling of power , potentaly avalable , when everyone moves out of your way ?

[@jamesmclellan6301]

A bad example of the valued work done by bloodbikes. Disregard for traffic laws as no exemptions allowed. Would like to know the riders background as in riding experience and his training in the use of blues and twos. Highly doubt he’s a serving or retired police motorcyclist as he would know he had no exemptions.

[@Badger-w8u]

This is all about Advanced Motorcycling , and it's impressive . I'm not a bike person .

[@prince77rp]

Blues went off when you got on motorway yet continuously went 80mph up to 85mph, always thought 70 was the limit,

[@Jonesykins]

Exempt from the speed limit...

[@jamesmclellan6301]

@@Jonesykinsthere is no exemption from the speed limit nor going rough red lights which he did several times.

[@Jonesykins]

@@jamesmclellan6301
Speed Limits:
*S.87(1)&(1a) Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984*
_No statutory provision imposing a speed limit on motor vehicles shall apply to any vehicle on an occasion when it is being used for ..., _*_for ambulance purposes_*_ ... if the observance of that provision would be likely to hinder the use of the vehicle for the purpose for which it is being used on that occasion._
As amended by S.19 Road Safety Act 2006
Red Lights:
*S.36(1)(a)&(b) Road Traffic Regulations and General Directions 2002*
_when a vehicle is being used for ... _*_ambulance_*_ ... _*_national blood service_*_ ... and the observance of the prohibition conveyed by the red signal in accordance with sub-paragraph (a) would be likely to hinder the use of that vehicle for the purpose for which it is being used, then sub-paragraph (a) shall not apply to the vehicle_
A quick Google search is not that hard...

[@keithpage4219]

And then you both parked in a disability parking spot. Good ride though and yes I am disabled, retired and still have my bike licence. 1100cc bike just sat in the garage, life really sucks at times.

[@leeack9660]

i didnt think blood bikers were allowed to break the law ( speeding ) ( red lights ) or ride with blue lights on.

[@puddingleaf]

Blood bikers cannot break the law in any way. However, there is dispensation to use blue lights and sirens in emergency circumstances.

[@leeack9660]

J D ah I stand corrected when I done my rospa the guy said they couldn’t Iv just applied

[@puddingleaf]

@@leeack9660 Most places do have a policy of not using them. Good luck :)

[@Snakebite1968]

Blood Bikers aren't allowed to break the road laws. They have no special rights to go through red lights or speed. They also have no right to pass on the right side of a 'stay left' sign.
Which is interesting since right at the very start of this video, he went through a red light..!

[@Snakebite1968]

And again at 16:12...

[@pomajzsolt4363]

Can blood bikers go above speed limits or run through red lights?

[@boxfullofneutral8514]

Yes

[@maxwheatley4214]

No, they have no exemptions

[@boxfullofneutral8514]

@@maxwheatley4214 some of them do

[@TheJbsportstech]

@@boxfullofneutral8514 some of them say they do the law does not allow them. Some trusts grade calls and so the riders risk prosecution. I am not aware of a test case for blood bikers speeding and contravening red lights etc. It needs sorting but there have been cases of some charity bikers grading calls for pjs to be transferred as to hospital and bikers grade 1 everything.

[@jonah406]

An almost faultless ride, spoiled only by parking in a disabled parking space, a let down

[@jonwilliams40]

Great ride officer, only the best will do.

[@albion2742]

What was the point of this, was it just for a joy ride or to just waste fuel,.

[@bobaxe6197]

George Lee. The point of this is the rider is being looked at to see if his riding is up to the required standard that he can use blue lights & siren and is above all safe in doing so. If you look into the mirrors of the bike you'll see they're being followed be another bike that's the person who makes the decision.

[@paulchambers360]

And then volunteer

[@emergencyservicesnews]

Hi - can we share your video on our Facebook page please?

[@seaflyfisher]

I know this is an older video now and I hope that you'll take this in the spirit that its intended but I was very disappointed to see the bike started without having the clutch in - I hope that I'm teaching granny to suck eggs here but starting with the clutch in is primarily a safety feature to guard against the bike being in gear and launching out into the traffic - it also reduces the load on the battery and starting gear as you only turn over the engine and not the engine and gear box - at the end, the rider stepped of the bike and then switched it off ? - if he had hit the gear stick on the way off, the bike would be off and doing its own thing across the car park - you are not in full control of the bike in either of these circumstances and I would be very surprised if the Instructor didn't pick up on such an important and basic fault - putting the bike into danger usually constitutes a fail - personally I don't put my stand down whilst i'm still on the bike - I do it when i've stepped off so that I can see what the foot is going to be sitting on - I have full control and I can use my foot to lock the spring loaded stand in place until I'm happy that its locked forward and the weight of the bike has held it in place. As I said - I hope that you'll take this in the spirit that its intended - hats off to you for doing it but you can keep yourself safer than this - these things are hugely powerful and if it launches it might take you with it - stay safe gentlemen - regards - Dale

[@adv-nomad]

Pretty sure the bike wont start in gear as per most modern bikes since about 2000 so most of the issues you mention are a non starter.I guess you could knock in to gear after starting but you could do that with a lot of vehicles and most dont start with a clutch in. I do recognise that it was taught in my test way back in early 90s but dont think its an issue here.

[@anthonyanderson6328]

​@@adv-nomad i do get what you are saying, but im with dale on this one. yes thereis safety precautions in place with newer bikes and they work a charm but i dont put my 100% faith in them and souldnt either. i start bike with clutch and id switch bike off while on it for control. when the bike is off i can relax and get off but untill then i like to be in control 100% time as anything can happen. but i totally understand what youre saying and i do agree they should be there for an extra hand if needs be but if you start with checking youre not in gear and even then i start with clutch as it may be a fauls neutral just an extra precausion

[@aps-pictures9335]

Stepping off before putting the kickstand down?? Mad as a hatter. Try that on a bike this size or loaded and it’d be game over. Agree with clutch in to start, although a bit out dated better safe than sorry.

[@judgedredd49]

Did I just see a civi blood bike rider put his wah wahs on and go through traffic lights on red causing other traffic to remain at the lights now on green to enable him to ride through them. Is that lawfully allowed and if so where is the legislation that enables it to be done please advise.
It also appears that he has flashing lights going on, also maybe blue ones?
Passing the front car on the approach to a pedestrian crossing also ?????? who are these guys wannabe police officers.
Obviously exceeding the 30 mph urban speed limits.
If this was a taxi taking bloods would they be favourably looked upon driving round towns in this manner. I think not!

[@Jonesykins]

''where is the legislation that enables it to be done please advise.''
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 and The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016
''also maybe blue ones?''
Yes?
''If this was a taxi taking bloods ''
Well it's not a taxi so wind it in a bit. They're blood bikes.

[@danielstone2579]

Illegal to pass through red lights and speed ....

[@danielstone2579]

No I'm not... Blood bikers do not have exemptions to run red lights and to speed. Just like bomb squads and the coast guards don't have those exemptions either.

[@Jonesykins]

@@danielstone2579 I don't know where you got your info from mate, but ALL emergency services are afforded lawful exemption from a majority of road laws during an emergency situation.

[@danielstone2579]

@@Jonesykins Blood bikes are not considered emergency services... Looks it up on the gov website. Blood bikes have 0 exemptions.

[@danielstone2579]

@@JonesykinsAs a blood biker myself, I know :p But unfortunately some of the blood bike organisers are a lot more relaxed on enforcing these rules

[@bobaxe6197]

Hi @@danielstone2579 must refer you to a resent court case which I know involved a Devon & Cornwall blood biker who was charged with speeding and using blues & two's following a request by a consultant for an emergency run for some surgical equipment and the District Judge found the rider NOT GUILLITY on ALL charges and the Judge also ruled that that in this case the blood bike should be classed as an AMBULANCE. In fact the consultant involved criticised the police officer for delay the run. Please feel free to check this out if you wish as it shouldn't be to hard to find and by the way I also ride for a blood bike group but we've chosen not to use blues & two's.

[@bandk2000]

All good until the end when for no reason they decide to park on invalid only spaces. Bikes can find room anyplace!

[@paulchambers360]

Then get a suitable motorcycle..

[@davidthomas6681]

really cool video but parking in a disabled space at the end, was that really the best thing to do? Great video otherwise.

[@tomskupham]

they were not parked ,the supervisor would be giving comments, if a disabled person had needed the space they would have moved ,also there are not many disabled ambulance staff, it looked to me like a staff car park

[@davidthomas6681]

Tom Skupham does look like a staff car park but still no reason to park in a disabled bay in my opinion but it is just my opinion 😊

[@hoomannili]

Absolutely right. It's not like they're parking and leaving.

[@davidosborne5019]

Whether a staff carpark or not, they shouldn't park in a space designated for Blue Badge holders, whether for Supervisory comments or any other reason.

[@bluezulus]

No legal exemptions, just totally pointless and playing games. You could have made just as much progress without the blues and twos.

[@NEMESIS2030]

bluezulus
Apart from the fact they need to get blood to their destination in an emergency...that's not playing games dickhead. And no legal exemptions? ...what about the legal right to go through red lights, speed etc? The fella in the other comment that said he ran blood and got done for speeding was no doubt a privateer on a bike with a blood sticker on the windshield, not these.
You're a twat

[@bluezulus]

@@NEMESIS2030 just speaking the truth blood bikers have no legal exemptions for speed limits, red lights or keep left bollards fact.

[@ce9934]

@@NEMESIS2030 they don't have those exemptions... regardless of a “fake” one or a registered charity, by law they don't receive those exemptions.

[@Carpetslipper]

I don’t necessarily agree with the exercise being pointless. Turning on blue lights and siren whilst generally alerting motorist to your presence can cause some unusual reactions too. Training is learning so if it helps the bikers safety there is some benefit.

[@boxfullofneutral8514]

@@bluezulus unless permitted by CC

[@Eastsussexbiker]

BLOOD BIKES have no speed limit exemptions yet you are clearly speeding on the motorway and built up areas ! as show by your speedo. Not a good example for fellow blood bikers

[@Easty3735]

They do have exceptions in law, it's the organisations that forbid them from breaking the speed limit and running red lights

[@rosscharlie5349]

Speed is relative to circumstances . If the blood was meant to save the life of your child what would you want him to do. He did the job safely calmly with due regard for other road users .End off .

[@bobaxe6197]

Hi Grant I must refer you to a resent court case which I know involved a Devon & Cornwall blood biker who was charged with speeding and using blues & two's following a request by a consultant for an emergency run for some surgical equipment and the District Judge found the rider NOT GUILLITY on ALL charges and the Judge also ruled that that in this case the blood bike should be classed as an AMBULANCE. In fact the consultant involved criticised the police officer for delaying the run. Please feel free to check this out if you wish as it shouldn't be to hard to find and by the way I also ride for a blood bike group but we've chosen not to use blues & two's

[@andrewbellamy2095]

@Bob Axe. The case you site involved a Devon Freewheelers rider. Cornwall Blood Bikes (CBB) are an entirely separate organisation and do not exceed speed limits. The CBB Bikes do have calibrated speedos though and can be ridden to the accurate speed reading which may seem slightly quicker than uncalibrated vehicles.

[@stevenkiel6452]

@@Easty3735 No they don't! Read the road traffic regulations act they have none, end of story same as mountain rescue, HM Coastguard etc etc

[@stevenkiel6452]

1:12 instant fail, you don't have legal exemptions to treat red lights as a give way, poor show of riding abilities

[@bluezulus]

Correct blood bikers have no exemptions for speed limits, red lights or keep left bollards fact

[@randomchannel5386]

Steven kiel Regulation 36 gives the meanings of signals, including red,
and also sets out which organisations are exempt under certain
circumstances. For completeness it’s fire and rescue, ambulance, bomb and
explosive disposal, national blood service, police, Serious Organised
Crime Agency (SOCA) and special forces. The exemption only applies when
they’re on an emergency call.

[@stevenkiel6452]

@@randomchannel5386 Thanks for the reply mate. I am aware of the regs however the title says "NWBB" which correct if I'm wrong is North West Blood Bikes. Individual blood bike charities do not have any exemptions under these regs or the road traffic act, they are not the same as the National Blood Service who have their own liveried vehicles and as you say do have very limited exemptions which are pretty much only extend to treating red traffic signals as give way, no speed limit or contravening keep left and right bollards etc

[@randomchannel5386]

Steven kiel didn’t realise that, maybe these guys have gotten an exemption somehow

[@stevenkiel6452]

@@randomchannel5386 No worries pal, Without saying how, I just know they don't and never have! Although I am also a CRO with HM Coastguard and they have the same as us, simply bluelight use to aid progress nothing more, my full time occupation well that's very different :-)

[@Cougar1212]

Booooooooooooooooringgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg...

[@Stefluc2]

Why don’t you change the tones according to the hazards so inconsistent, one of the slowest blue light runs in history. Why bother

[@tonymartin3780]

How can you ride like this braking the law ? Your not allowed to run red lights ,your BLOOD not emergency service and to end it you both park in a disabled car park 😂

[@OH2023-cj9if]

The vehicles are not classed as emergency vehicles so can not have blue lights and sirens either.

[@trinitywildcat]

Good driving totally spoiled with your self appointed superiority when parking in disabled bays for no good reason

[@pauldavison7105]

Get a life. There where several unused disabled bays so they where not blocking anyone and there is no indication they parked and left their bikes.
Im disabled and fully understand that disabled parking is a concession and not a right.
The hospital is private property so its not like a bay on a public road.

[@shiftyshamsk]

Clueless idiot.