He's kinda saying the opposite. If any salt-water solution works... Then urine would. You will have an infinite supply of that for the rest of your life...
Thanks for confirming Robert. I played with this kind of cell back in 2006 using 2 x 10 inch Extruded Carbon water filters, which are commonly found in most hardware stores. 1 Is normal Activated Carbon, the other is Silver impregnated Carbon, and basically any Salt electrolyte works. Each cartridge has the equivalent surface area of approx 4000m2 or 1 acre.
How did you rule out the possibility that you did not build a conventional galvanic battery? Maybe you actually built a carbon Silver Oxide galvanic cell? The cells in Rob's video work by harvesting thermal energy from electrolyte cations and not from galvanic action at the electrodes.
@@peterlang777 I'm not saying that Zihan Xu's 2012 work is galvanic. My question is directed specifically towards delawarecop's carbon/silver battery cell that he mentions in his comment above, a completely different system. Also in Zihan Xu's 2012 paper he clearly states that the graphene layer can't be any thicker than 1 or 2 graphene layers or the cell will not work. Also the electrolyte has to be isolated from the silver and gold collector strips, only touching the graphene layer or the cell won't work.
One experiment I've done was using activated charcoal for negative, and positive! With some salt water and flower pots as a separator for the carbon. I was able to generate large enough current, and voltage to power a jewl thief circuit. Thought it was pretty interesting, that I did not have to use two different carbons. Not sure though how it naturally polarized each side negative and positive.
@@danielbruce1446 Interesting! Did you have to charge it with an external voltage first? If so maybe you made a symmetrical storage capacitor and not a battery?
It makes me wonder, if it's a thermoelectric effect - there should be a detectable difference in heat dissipation when there is a load and when there is not. I wonder if something like this could be used for passive cooling with a bonus of some electrical generation - two birds - one stone.
One of the test cells of the Baghdad battery, copper pipe and iron rod with salt packed in between worked amazing when I clamped them on my wood stove pipe.
Heat is a catalyst, so if there is a small chemical reaction taking place, it would not be surprising for your cell to perform better as it is heated. Years ago, It used to be quite common for people to warm up their depleted zinc-carbon torch batteries to squeeze a little more life out of them.
My thought exactly. Interesting stuff indeed, but I am not exactly faithful that’s it is not actually electrochemical. Add a copper electrode and minute amounts of air diffusing into the electrolyte and you got an electrochemical reaction. Two different carbon allotrope electrodes and you may get an electrochemical reaction from trace dopants producing the EMF. It would be highly interesting if doping the carbons would affect the voltage
John Hutchison baked minerals, rocks of various types, packed together in a can. After baking them, each cell produced about 1.2 volts. each cell was a little bigger than a D battery. The person holding the camera asked John, "How long will the charge last before you need to make another one?" John replied, "There rocks I picked up from the yard. How long do you think they were there before I picked them up?" The cameraman replied, "1000 years.?" Then, John answered, "Well, these mineral batteries will last at least that long, maybe longer." John Hutchison was crazy smart.
Epic video one of the best. I've made a few cells with silver as + and magnesium as - in distilled water also experimented with citrus mold as a living electrolyte generator.
Now, this seems that a case could be made that like the photo electric effect, these thermal harvesters could be made into a wall component. In so doing, with a center tap design for an all climate form, you could have a wall catching some energy from heat radiating thru it. Building a large scale one, if you can find out how it could possibly be more efficient, could be explored as a small amount of emergency power, as if you design it to capitalize on how the heat is flowing to get more of it in some way, it might even be sufficiently insulating to be worth while in a large area. Maybe not a home, but a delayed harvestt during the coiling process of various steam generation systems, even in nuclear complexes. If it is gathering electricity from heat, that heat would be moving, in transforming, and being used. Heck, something like that could even have a space based application, as getting rid of excess heat is a big problem, and recycling that even a bit, would be a big deal.
Ok cold fusion battery. 8 Neodymium tubes of equal length with octagonal angle ends. ( 45-67.5 ) degrees ) Connected together as with magnetic KEEPS. Two ends have a groove for electrical coil entry and exit. On the generator side. And a coil on the outside for re- charging the Gauss
Rotate the end for the final connection . Jigsaw the coil into place as you go possibly a magnetic insert within the coil also of octagonal ends. Stacking coils will increase electron potential and reduce gauss field overload..
If we can do a bettery in 1970:ty how send singnals to the earth now and gonna keep on doing that to 2040! And we can have a plutoniumbattery in our pacemaker in 80 years! And new diamond/radio activity battary can work in 29000 years yes you might have a real fine thing to check up! This is one of sources to make a perfect windmill! /Mikael
As I have Stated Many times, from the late 1960's to the mid 1980's I demonstrated scores if not into the 100 or more and this is related to thermal emission, and patented by the General Electric company in the mid 1950's and a type of thermal galvanic cell, in which the electron affinity, These are perpetual only in the respect that the temperature (ambient is never constant) or when an affinity transformer thermocouple effect and a simple example of a solid state thermo-galvanic cell is the oxide coated copper wire thermo-electric device you showed on one of your videos. The Copper are the electrodes and the copper oxide the electrolyte.
A carbon - carbon "battery" is in my eyes not a battery but instead a generator. A carbon - (Metal of your choice) "Battery" is a battery indeed. As soon as you shove to different Metals or other conductive materials in a electrolyte you have a battery and if you can revers the Redox reaction by simply putting electricity in it you get an Accumulator. Those 3 possibilities are given. The most interesting one is the generator one. Good job Rob keep it up pal 😁👌
Little known is that Alessandro Volta believed in "free energy" devices, and insisted that his Voltaic Pile was an example of this. Opponents soon objected! Volta argued that batteries were the same as the known "contact electrification" or "contact tension" appearing between differing metals, measured electrostatically. Touch a clean zinc surface to copper, and both metals spontaneously become charged opposite (then detect this with an electrometer connected to a Faraday-cup.) But this charging-by-contact proves to not be an energy source ...except if TWO metal junctions are placed in series, and their temperatures are made different. Otherwise, for every upwards potential-step, their is an equal downwards potential-step. To avoid this, we add metal-electrolyte junctions to the circuit, so the net voltage is no longer zero, and some output watts are detected. (Or in other words, Volta thought that thermocouples and batteries were the same device ...and his new discovery was like a thermocouple-based power supply which required no temperature differences! The Voltaic Pile a Mobile Perpetuum! ) Yet both effects are active charge-separation devices. Somehow the spontaneous galvanic corrosion could un-balance the total potentials summed around the circuit. I guess the 1700s controversy yet continues. Search on "Zamboni" and "DuLuc," and "dry pile." Need a field-mill voltmeter to investigate such things. Detect voltages without having to touch the electrodes. Or instead, spin your paired materials mechanically, and try picking up the AC e-field with a suspended plate hooked to an oscilloscope? BTW, buy a jewelers roller-mill, which can turn copper pennies into copper foil. I haven't tried mine on zinc yet, but it probably works, turning soft metals into foils. Note that "electrostatic" **IS** slow corrosion, as far as conventional science is concerned. So-called "static" electricity is nothing of the sort, instead it's simply some DC kilovolts. Wet-piles and dry-piles, if used to charge capacitors, produce the same result. (And, Leyden jars are just hv capacitors, not magical devices which store a new kind of "electricity.") Modern batteries in series can create DC kilovolts with strong electrostatic effects: they attract lint, deflect electroscope foils, run electrostatic motors, etc., same as any DC kilovolts power supply. Try hooking up a few hundred 9V batteries in series. (I did this back in early 90s, after getting a huge box of used batteries from FM microphones used in local theater productions.) The positive and negative terminals then attract charged objects, and can be detected by an electrometer, same as fur-rubbed balloons. (Today I know that these 7.5V (etc.) batteries can easily be re-charged temporarily, by using a bench supply set to 10V, with 70mA current limit. I could have boosted my battery-chain's output by about 150% !!!) "No detectable corrosion" obviously not! Or, did you mean visible corrosion? These dry-pile cells put out far less than microamps. Do the calculations: figure out the amp-hours per kilo of the metal involved, then calculate the expected corrosion, the expected battery-life. Significant corrosion would only be detectable after a fair portion of a century has gone by (measured by weighing the metals before and after, to find how much goes missing.) To fully destroy their thin foil electrodes, with megohms of paper used as electrolyte, would take centuries. To honestly settle the issue, we'd need some output wattage which either produced or didn't produce major corrosion in a matter of hours. None of this "waiting for the Clarendon dry-pile to fail" stuff. Or, at least, put a 100-meg resistor across the thing! PS In the UK, during WW2, dry-piles with disks of silver-paper (and carbon? manganese?) were used as 5000V power supplies for infrared "Sniperscopes," early Farnsworth night-vision tubes. At one time there was a 1990s site online with an "unboxing" disassembly of a British war-era IR scope, with all the little black 2cm disks of paper. Besides IR scopes, the "Forever Batteries" were used as field-electrode supplies for Quadrant Electrometers, and also to power various 1800s "perpetual clocks," via electrostatic pendulums and motors.
I built a solid state all carbon battery base on some of your designs, still trying to figure out why it works, because it seems to work even in colder environments. Was wondering if it is some hybrid, that works off moisture, and temperature, to generate current and voltage. More experimenting needs to be done ,because this technology is definitely interesting. Keep up the good work, love your channel!
Hi Robert. I had something strange happen. Today my keys fell into a very wet dog poop. So I picked them up and . Wash them off with soap and water . Then I thought I should sanitize them so I poured some bleach in a ramekin on the counter and put them in the bleach. 5 minutes or so. When I took them out of the bleach I got a wicked electric shock. A little blue spark too when I touch them. It didn't feel like a static thing it had some powerful amps in it
Very interesting I wonder if there's a limit to heating it before it either maxes out out the electricity being generated drops off. Did you check the amps reading? String a few together to get 12v and stick it on my woodburner.
I understood that a battery is an energy storage device. ( actually a group of them ) Therefore a couple of buckets of water on a ladder with a tube running down to spin a turbine and generate electricity could be described as a battery And Sourcing the parts to create that would be less expensive .
A Peltier device requires a difference of temperature, it sounds like that battery just needs ambient temperature and doesn't care if the electrodes are different temperature.
Observations so far very strongly suggest such a thing is not possible. It would imply a net reduction in entropy. If someone builds one of those, it's a guaranteed Nobel. The cell is real - but it's just another ultra-stable electrochemical cell. It's only supplying a tiny bit of power, and eventually it is going to run flat. Gold and platinum are known for their low reactivity, but even they are not utterly inert - if they were, the cell couldn't generate current at all. Using such materials just gives you a cell with a really tiny power output but a correspondingly long shelf life.
So, I don't understand how the saltwater battery works. Mind experiment here. Two containers metal stainless steel, a Berkeley gravity water filter , add a separation/ insulation non conduct tape, add wires and load, add charge 1 volt and millaamp from a couple solar panels, saltwater on top and just a pinch of salt (I would use a Tums antacid) on bottom so its tap water, when you take away the solar and you wait until water is half filled on bottom would you get a current because less ions are going to drop through the filter because of the charge of the solar panel, and is power going to be greater then the power of the solar panel because you spent time accumulating and its all going to rush out quickly?
That Hong Kong paper claims that the graphene layer has to be only just one or two layers for it to work. So I don't understand how your cells are working using multilayer relatively thick grafoil?
Getting really close to my design for a reverse entropy system that generates power from reversing this entropic state of thermal energy into a given space (ie taking something that has evenly dispersed and then concentrating back into a smaller space to again disperse over the given area evenly again and again and again, thus solving the asimov problem about the heat death of the universe. :) how is that for saving the world, by saving the universe it needs to be able to exist inside of. :)
Just imagine if we could use the spent activated carbon filters from industry that just so happen to have absorbed a chemical thats just what we need for one of the carbons . A kind of catalytic effect would be just the ticket but first we must be certain of what is actually going on in the first place !
How about theory and calculation of Zamboni pile? And will it be more effective if there will be used nanoporus materials for increasing effective area of plates?
the thing thats also not being thought about is the differential of carbon types on a larger scale and if theyre producing charges that are being overlooked in general science as it is, just because people dont even think of it existing nor having any proof of it existing because they have not researched these carbon piles seriously
At time 3:59 Aluminium Chloride electrolyte? Aluminium Chloride reacts with water so I don't understand what the nature of this electrolyte is. A non aqueous electrolyte?
Hello Robert. I have a "problem" with your play lists. They contain videos from the "members only" section. When I have access to unlimited data I use the "play all" functionality on one of my favorite channels to hopefully generate a bit of revenue for the creator. Usually this works for 8-12h until the app crashes. Not so on your playlist as the playing stops on the "members only" videos. Just thought you should know.
🤔My family always warned me that in advanced years I was likely to have problems with piles - but they never mentioned how interesting those piles would be to others !🙄🙆🤦
I don't know. Generating even an infinitesimal electrical energy while creating even infinitesimal temperature difference sounds way too good to be true.
![BOWKYLION - วิงวอน (ex-change) [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cLdnZWDaO-w/mqdefault.jpg)
I love all the various ways , you explain...."No free Energy, No Free Lunch" . Thank You for what you do .
He's kinda saying the opposite. If any salt-water solution works... Then urine would. You will have an infinite supply of that for the rest of your life...
Actually the free lunch was proven by prof. Moddel University of Colorado boulder with zpe diodes (air force grant)
Its time to start making a list of different types of carbons that we know of and recipe to make them ! Fascinating topic!
Graphite and anthracite coal
Thanks for confirming Robert. I played with this kind of cell back in 2006 using 2 x 10 inch Extruded Carbon water filters, which are commonly found in most hardware stores. 1 Is normal Activated Carbon, the other is Silver impregnated Carbon, and basically any Salt electrolyte works. Each cartridge has the equivalent surface area of approx 4000m2 or 1 acre.
How did you rule out the possibility that you did not build a conventional galvanic battery? Maybe you actually built a carbon Silver Oxide galvanic cell? The cells in Rob's video work by harvesting thermal energy from electrolyte cations and not from galvanic action at the electrodes.
@@William_Hada zihan xu 2012 MIT technical review magazine. It's not galvanic
@@peterlang777 I'm not saying that Zihan Xu's 2012 work is galvanic. My question is directed specifically towards delawarecop's carbon/silver battery cell that he mentions in his comment above, a completely different system. Also in Zihan Xu's 2012 paper he clearly states that the graphene layer can't be any thicker than 1 or 2 graphene layers or the cell will not work. Also the electrolyte has to be isolated from the silver and gold collector strips, only touching the graphene layer or the cell won't work.
One experiment I've done was using activated charcoal for negative, and positive! With some salt water and flower pots as a separator for the carbon. I was able to generate large enough current, and voltage to power a jewl thief circuit. Thought it was pretty interesting, that I did not have to use two different carbons. Not sure though how it naturally polarized each side negative and positive.
@@danielbruce1446 Interesting! Did you have to charge it with an external voltage first? If so maybe you made a symmetrical storage capacitor and not a battery?
A beautiful explanation Robert. Thankyou for the upload!!!!!!!
It makes me wonder, if it's a thermoelectric effect - there should be a detectable difference in heat dissipation when there is a load and when there is not. I wonder if something like this could be used for passive cooling with a bonus of some electrical generation - two birds - one stone.
One of the test cells of the Baghdad battery, copper pipe and iron rod with salt packed in between worked amazing when I clamped them on my wood stove pipe.
I also tried packing iron pyrite, but the pure salt pack eventually created iron pyrite between the iron and salt
Heat is a catalyst, so if there is a small chemical reaction taking place, it would not be surprising for your cell to perform better as it is heated. Years ago, It used to be quite common for people to warm up their depleted zinc-carbon torch batteries to squeeze a little more life out of them.
My thought exactly. Interesting stuff indeed, but I am not exactly faithful that’s it is not actually electrochemical. Add a copper electrode and minute amounts of air diffusing into the electrolyte and you got an electrochemical reaction. Two different carbon allotrope electrodes and you may get an electrochemical reaction from trace dopants producing the EMF. It would be highly interesting if doping the carbons would affect the voltage
RMS, put this under the inverter in an electric vehicle. The device can generate electricity to charge the lithium batteries.
I don't watch often, but when I do..... excellent!
John Hutchison baked minerals, rocks of various types, packed together in a can. After baking them, each cell produced about 1.2 volts. each cell was a little bigger than a D battery.
The person holding the camera asked John, "How long will the charge last before you need to make another one?"
John replied, "There rocks I picked up from the yard. How long do you think they were there before I picked them up?"
The cameraman replied, "1000 years.?"
Then, John answered, "Well, these mineral batteries will last at least that long, maybe longer."
John Hutchison was crazy smart.
@neneldurski9216 Love internet historians, and anyone that doesn't trust Google.
Epic video one of the best. I've made a few cells with silver as + and magnesium as - in distilled water also experimented with citrus mold as a living electrolyte generator.
Now, this seems that a case could be made that like the photo electric effect, these thermal harvesters could be made into a wall component. In so doing, with a center tap design for an all climate form, you could have a wall catching some energy from heat radiating thru it. Building a large scale one, if you can find out how it could possibly be more efficient, could be explored as a small amount of emergency power, as if you design it to capitalize on how the heat is flowing to get more of it in some way, it might even be sufficiently insulating to be worth while in a large area. Maybe not a home, but a delayed harvestt during the coiling process of various steam generation systems, even in nuclear complexes. If it is gathering electricity from heat, that heat would be moving, in transforming, and being used. Heck, something like that could even have a space based application, as getting rid of excess heat is a big problem, and recycling that even a bit, would be a big deal.
Would be great for energy reclamation in any place where waste heat is created :)
Ok cold fusion battery.
8 Neodymium tubes of equal length with octagonal angle ends. ( 45-67.5 ) degrees )
Connected together as with magnetic KEEPS.
Two ends have a groove for electrical coil entry and exit. On the generator side. And a coil on the outside for re- charging the Gauss
Rotate the end for the final connection .
Jigsaw the coil into place as you go possibly a magnetic insert within the coil also of octagonal ends. Stacking coils will increase electron potential and reduce gauss field overload..
If we can do a bettery in 1970:ty how send singnals to the earth now and gonna keep on doing that to 2040! And we can have a plutoniumbattery in our pacemaker in 80 years! And new diamond/radio activity battary can work in 29000 years yes you might have a real fine thing to check up! This is one of sources to make a perfect windmill! /Mikael
thank you for sharing Rob 😀
As I have Stated Many times, from the late 1960's to the mid 1980's I demonstrated scores if not into the 100 or more and this is related to thermal emission, and patented by the General Electric company in the mid 1950's and a type of thermal galvanic cell, in which the electron affinity, These are perpetual only in the respect that the temperature (ambient is never constant) or when an affinity transformer thermocouple effect and a simple example of a solid state thermo-galvanic cell is the oxide coated copper wire thermo-electric device you showed on one of your videos. The Copper are the electrodes and the copper oxide the electrolyte.
A carbon - carbon "battery" is in my eyes not a battery but instead a generator. A carbon - (Metal of your choice) "Battery" is a battery indeed. As soon as you shove to different Metals or other conductive materials in a electrolyte you have a battery and if you can revers the Redox reaction by simply putting electricity in it you get an Accumulator. Those 3 possibilities are given. The most interesting one is the generator one. Good job Rob keep it up pal 😁👌
1:35 Those are the ancestor of the Daleks...
😮😅❤Lol!!!😂😂
If my Eldest Sister were still alive, she'd be Hiding behind the Sofa!!😂❤ Bless her the Daleks Terrified her!!❤😂❤
This is Fascinating!! ❤Gets me Thinking!! 🤔❤
Little known is that Alessandro Volta believed in "free energy" devices, and insisted that his Voltaic Pile was an example of this. Opponents soon objected! Volta argued that batteries were the same as the known "contact electrification" or "contact tension" appearing between differing metals, measured electrostatically. Touch a clean zinc surface to copper, and both metals spontaneously become charged opposite (then detect this with an electrometer connected to a Faraday-cup.) But this charging-by-contact proves to not be an energy source ...except if TWO metal junctions are placed in series, and their temperatures are made different. Otherwise, for every upwards potential-step, their is an equal downwards potential-step. To avoid this, we add metal-electrolyte junctions to the circuit, so the net voltage is no longer zero, and some output watts are detected. (Or in other words, Volta thought that thermocouples and batteries were the same device ...and his new discovery was like a thermocouple-based power supply which required no temperature differences! The Voltaic Pile a Mobile Perpetuum! ) Yet both effects are active charge-separation devices. Somehow the spontaneous galvanic corrosion could un-balance the total potentials summed around the circuit.
I guess the 1700s controversy yet continues. Search on "Zamboni" and "DuLuc," and "dry pile."
Need a field-mill voltmeter to investigate such things. Detect voltages without having to touch the electrodes. Or instead, spin your paired materials mechanically, and try picking up the AC e-field with a suspended plate hooked to an oscilloscope?
BTW, buy a jewelers roller-mill, which can turn copper pennies into copper foil. I haven't tried mine on zinc yet, but it probably works, turning soft metals into foils.
Note that "electrostatic" **IS** slow corrosion, as far as conventional science is concerned. So-called "static" electricity is nothing of the sort, instead it's simply some DC kilovolts. Wet-piles and dry-piles, if used to charge capacitors, produce the same result. (And, Leyden jars are just hv capacitors, not magical devices which store a new kind of "electricity.")
Modern batteries in series can create DC kilovolts with strong electrostatic effects: they attract lint, deflect electroscope foils, run electrostatic motors, etc., same as any DC kilovolts power supply. Try hooking up a few hundred 9V batteries in series. (I did this back in early 90s, after getting a huge box of used batteries from FM microphones used in local theater productions.) The positive and negative terminals then attract charged objects, and can be detected by an electrometer, same as fur-rubbed balloons. (Today I know that these 7.5V (etc.) batteries can easily be re-charged temporarily, by using a bench supply set to 10V, with 70mA current limit. I could have boosted my battery-chain's output by about 150% !!!)
"No detectable corrosion" obviously not! Or, did you mean visible corrosion? These dry-pile cells put out far less than microamps. Do the calculations: figure out the amp-hours per kilo of the metal involved, then calculate the expected corrosion, the expected battery-life. Significant corrosion would only be detectable after a fair portion of a century has gone by (measured by weighing the metals before and after, to find how much goes missing.) To fully destroy their thin foil electrodes, with megohms of paper used as electrolyte, would take centuries. To honestly settle the issue, we'd need some output wattage which either produced or didn't produce major corrosion in a matter of hours.
None of this "waiting for the Clarendon dry-pile to fail" stuff. Or, at least, put a 100-meg resistor across the thing!
PS
In the UK, during WW2, dry-piles with disks of silver-paper (and carbon? manganese?) were used as 5000V power supplies for infrared "Sniperscopes," early Farnsworth night-vision tubes. At one time there was a 1990s site online with an "unboxing" disassembly of a British war-era IR scope, with all the little black 2cm disks of paper. Besides IR scopes, the "Forever Batteries" were used as field-electrode supplies for Quadrant Electrometers, and also to power various 1800s "perpetual clocks," via electrostatic pendulums and motors.
Insulate the battery 👍 If its thermal electric that should show straight away as it will cool under load and stop working.
I built a solid state all carbon battery base on some of your designs, still trying to figure out why it works, because it seems to work even in colder environments. Was wondering if it is some hybrid, that works off moisture, and temperature, to generate current and voltage. More experimenting needs to be done ,because this technology is definitely interesting. Keep up the good work, love your channel!
Seriously SERIOUSLY
This reminds me of the work of Walter Carl Lovell on what has been called the “monothermal laminate”.
Hi Robert. I had something strange happen. Today my keys fell into a very wet dog poop. So I picked them up and . Wash them off with soap and water . Then I thought I should sanitize them so I poured some bleach in a ramekin on the counter and put them in the bleach. 5 minutes or so. When I took them out of the bleach I got a wicked electric shock. A little blue spark too when I touch them. It didn't feel like a static thing it had some powerful amps in it
Great works in the making!
when I was a kid I built an AM radio kit that used no batteries. there's energy out there free for the taking if you just look around.
Very interesting I wonder if there's a limit to heating it before it either maxes out out the electricity being generated drops off. Did you check the amps reading? String a few together to get 12v and stick it on my woodburner.
very very interesting thanks 😀👍
03:55 would you be able to put this in series or would that not work?
I understood that a battery is an energy storage device. ( actually a group of them )
Therefore a couple of buckets of water on a ladder with a tube running down to spin a turbine and generate electricity could be described as a battery
And Sourcing the parts to create that would be less expensive .
Wonderful
A Peltier device requires a difference of temperature, it sounds like that battery just needs ambient temperature and doesn't care if the electrodes are different temperature.
Observations so far very strongly suggest such a thing is not possible. It would imply a net reduction in entropy. If someone builds one of those, it's a guaranteed Nobel.
The cell is real - but it's just another ultra-stable electrochemical cell. It's only supplying a tiny bit of power, and eventually it is going to run flat. Gold and platinum are known for their low reactivity, but even they are not utterly inert - if they were, the cell couldn't generate current at all. Using such materials just gives you a cell with a really tiny power output but a correspondingly long shelf life.
Very interesting, yet not quite enough to light or heat my house. 😂
I'm going to go with, a battery is energy storage.
This charge separator may be, a thermal capacitor?
I imagine that this could be combined with sand batteries for increased temperature and greater voltage.
I was scrolling through the comments to make sure I didn't repeat what someone else said on that! lol
So, I don't understand how the saltwater battery works. Mind experiment here. Two containers metal stainless steel, a Berkeley gravity water filter , add a separation/ insulation non conduct tape, add wires and load, add charge 1 volt and millaamp from a couple solar panels, saltwater on top and just a pinch of salt (I would use a Tums antacid) on bottom so its tap water, when you take away the solar and you wait until water is half filled on bottom would you get a current because less ions are going to drop through the filter because of the charge of the solar panel, and is power going to be greater then the power of the solar panel because you spent time accumulating and its all going to rush out quickly?
Thanks. Neat stuff.
But, where does it get it's bananas? LOL
are you sure its not using solar in some way
That Hong Kong paper claims that the graphene layer has to be only just one or two layers for it to work. So I don't understand how your cells are working using multilayer relatively thick grafoil?
Robert, love your channel mate. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Spark gap lingam developed by the Mad Plasmatist..
Getting really close to my design for a reverse entropy system that generates power from reversing this entropic state of thermal energy into a given space (ie taking something that has evenly dispersed and then concentrating back into a smaller space to again disperse over the given area evenly again and again and again, thus solving the asimov problem about the heat death of the universe. :)
how is that for saving the world, by saving the universe it needs to be able to exist inside of. :)
Anyone else think we should attempt to put on a rocket stove? Or outer sleeve a sand battery? So much fun to be had but I have so little time
Thank you :)
Just imagine if we could use the spent activated carbon filters from industry that just so happen to have absorbed a chemical thats just what we need for one of the carbons . A kind of catalytic effect would be just the ticket but first we must be certain of what is actually going on in the first place !
If it is a thermal effect, like a TEG, then wouldn't one of these designs be combined with a thermal storage battery?
How about theory and calculation of Zamboni pile? And will it be more effective if there will be used nanoporus materials for increasing effective area of plates?
the thing thats also not being thought about is the differential of carbon types on a larger scale and if theyre producing charges that are being overlooked in general science as it is, just because people dont even think of it existing nor having any proof of it existing because they have not researched these carbon piles seriously
At time 3:59 Aluminium Chloride electrolyte? Aluminium Chloride reacts with water so I don't understand what the nature of this electrolyte is. A non aqueous electrolyte?
Hello Robert. I have a "problem" with your play lists. They contain videos from the "members only" section. When I have access to unlimited data I use the "play all" functionality on one of my favorite channels to hopefully generate a bit of revenue for the creator. Usually this works for 8-12h until the app crashes.
Not so on your playlist as the playing stops on the "members only" videos. Just thought you should know.
How about a methanol fired pizza oven Robert would it be a thing?
How close to the sun do we need to put that to get a jigawatt?
Wouldn’t that be called a thermocouple?
where is the link to the Chinese paper?
Sounds like a device that can run on global warming.
Just need a noticeable temperature drop while in use.
has anyone seen the link to the paper, I seem to have missed it?
Assuming that a thermoelectric effect is at work, does anyone have any idea at what efficiency heat is converting to electricity?
🤔My family always warned me that in advanced years I was likely to have problems with piles - but they never mentioned how interesting those piles would be to others !🙄🙆🤦
😇😎😇
I don't know. Generating even an infinitesimal electrical energy while creating even infinitesimal temperature difference sounds way too good to be true.
Entropy decrease and stuff.
China has a new BV100 battery using nickel isotope for 50 years time