Last year was the last season for that hopefully someone out there will take the time and dedication to upload full races on there channel I enjoy going back and watching races from the late 90s all the way to present because that's when I started watching
These were absolutely the best IndyCar years (they will always be Indycars for me, as in my opinion IRL doesn't count). I'm from Germany and we had Eurosport showing every race and sometimes even NASCAR. And I've always loved this track. Almost like a small Nürburgring. Would have liked to see F1 or MotoGP there
I attended this race and these cars were amazing on this track. Seeing these cars waved through on the green flag on a hot summer day is a sight and sound and smell that cannot be explained.
This track (Elkhart Lake) & Watkins Glen are some of the greatest and most loved tracks in the world. F1 has tried to race at those places before but money is the biggest issue. Not enough crowds being middle America and not in a major city, so can't market it enough. Sad because tracks like this would be spectacular for F1.
The IRL cars looked better. The CART engines were better than IRL engines though. Both used V8's; IRL sounded like NASCAR, and they made a few hundred less HP. the CART engines were 2.65L, 15,000rpm turbocharged flat plane V8's, producing 900hp, that absolutely screamed!
I think I'd cry if I were watching a Grand Prix of any kind and the sports provider's channel I was watching it on decided to switch its coverage to golf instead...
woo hoo a real throwback CART baby. 2 more years the racing will get back to this with the hp upgrades. avg lap speeds above 140mph wow only monza would be faster than this on current f1 calender.
The pole last year for this race was 140.02 mph. Still slower than cars from 20 years ago. The cars looked better, sounded better, and were faster, and the drivers had to actually shift gears themselves with one hand off the wheel. Still sad to see Greg Moore.
They were pretty close in power to F1 at the time, but with way more torque. They got similar horsepower (900) with less revs (sub 15,000 for CART vs. 18,000 for F1) thanks to turbocharging, albeit with fairly small amount of boost (maybe 7 pounds by the 99 season?). Weight was definitely a big difference. F1 cars could be 1350 lbs WITH driver. ChampCars were 1550 without driver!
I'm inclined to believe that those front nose and rear wings make all the difference in the appearance of the cars. I think nowadays' indycars have nice bodies but not so good looking wings and noses.
So many world class drivers on that grid and in that season, A good 15-20 guys who could be at the top of the time sheets on their day in the right car. The grid now, while good, isn't the same. Castoneves, Montoya, De Ferran (and even Gonzalo Rodriguez may he rest in peace) all joined straight from F3000 (basically F2 now) success and then Blundell, Moreno, Gugelmin, Papis, Fittipaldi from F1. Kanaan, Herta, Tracy, Moore, Da Matta all indy lights champions when it meant something (and 3 of those were champions in IRL or Champ Car). Talented American stalwarts in Pruett, Vasser and Gordon. The big nsmes of Andretti and Unser Jr. Fernandez and Carpentier were also great drivers and there were a whole stack more of solid midfield drivers. Of course there were bad drivers ( The Hattoris, Garcia Jr, PJ Jones) but not many of them in good cars
Honda, Toyota, Mercedes, Ford-Cosworth, Reynard, Lola, Swift, Goodyear, Firestone: just to name a few. What do we have today? Dallara, Honda, Ilmor (Chev) and Firestone.
Something Emptybox would appreciate. It's hard to see any modern-day motor racing series achieve the quality of racing and amount of overtaking that CART managed that year.
What a race. What cars. What a championship. Obviously people then set out to destroy a good thing they had going....for stupid reasons But yeah, you really had something good going on for a while, America. Well done.
It’s awesome to see an old race where a driver took his first career win! I really want to see the 1998 Visionaire 500K (still not back on TH-cam yet) which was Kenny Bräck’s first career win, and the 1998 Pep Boys 400K (which is not still not back on TH-cam either)!
I remember that this race was transmitted by Inravision Canal A and RTI Televisión in afternoon hours in Colombia 20 years ago. The comments was for Ricardo Soler and Jorge Leal from the studio and the analysis was for Pablo Montoya, father of Juan Pablo that was pending of the details of each race. Good remembers for us that we lived all 1999 Fedex CART Season in the colombian television
One thing to note is that TV makes this all look calm and controlled. This is VERY different in real life. The speed, the noise, the tear gas produced from the methanol burning engines all make this to be a beautiful symphony of chaos.
The CART Senna driver! A proud for Brazil, really. I'm from Venezuela and i was looking a Colombian driver as Montoya against the other South American. Just great to see a international competition like this. Beyond to be a national one.
Consider how absolutely stacked this series was in 1999. Every row of this starting grid contained a champion or race winner except for the very last row.
On average, Monza is still slower. Even with DRS, 1000 bhp, in 2022 the highest speed in a speed trap was about 210 mph. Considering in 1999 CART cars had more power and speed then Formula 1 of 1999, Paul Page is correct. Road America is. The fastest road circuit in the world.
@@Dan-fx7qy you are completely wrong. Top speed is not what matter average speed over a lap is a better way to show it Pole average speed in 1999 at Elkart Lake :145 Miles/hour (233 km/h) Monza f1 1999 : pole average speed 157 miles per hour (252 km/h) Hockenheim f1 1999 : pole average speed 148 miles per hour (239 km/h) Look at the layout of the 3 tracks in 1999. Both Monza and Hockenheim were known as temple of speed. Top speed isn't what matter. Talking about top speed Alesi in 2001 (close enough to 1999) did 363 km/h which is 225 miles/h So f1 in the 90s and in the 00s allways have been faster. And Monza and Hockenheim were faster track and Elkart Lake . However Hockenheim is not anymore since 2002 when they butchered the layout In 1999 CART had more power. But it was heavier. Way heavier
What can you say about Michael Andretti. Great Driver and A Successful Car Owner. Only to never win the Indianapolis 500. It’s like A great NFL Quarterback never winning the Super Bowl. All In All One Of The Best to drive INDYCAR.
Man the sheet utter rawness of those engines. 900+ hp, manual shifting, breaking, and steering. No anti anything, just a dude , two petals, and balls made out steel. Dear Indycar you want views back, make this happen again. You want it cheap eliminate the custom m shock program, make those spec, easy cheap HP get rid of the ethanol, and you want excitement make them shift.
I thought turbocharger failure is a good thing because it will never affect the engine. I thought that it was unnecessary. Are all the race cars turbocharged? Do some of them run on gasoline?
Well I have some news for you 1_ Nascar already has ten times more ratings than you, 4+ millions vs 350k. And we are just the half season. 2_No third manufacture, BMW says No!!! The Germans says, "for what I want to be in a b class series" 3_and Pocono will be out of the calendar next year.
1990's CART. Best racing ever.
Great era, 4 engine builders (Ford, Toyota, Honda, Mercedes-Benz), multiple chassis builders (Lola, Reynard, Penske, Swift, Eagle), multiple combinations and great pilots
Two tires. Goodyear and Firestone
Refueling and run whatever tires you want too.
I worked for Goodyear during this time. Was amazing to have this level of competition. CART was never this good again.
Montoya holding the lead for more than 20 laps even with a faulty gearbox was a great piece of driving.
Aesthetically, this is my favorite generation of IndyCar. I remember watching these events when I was a kid, too.
How I miss those cars! 😍
Miss them big time as well. What a great era. Good thing Tony George saved open wheel racing huh?
These are the best looking cars in IndyCar history. Change my mind.
and sounding
no arguments....man those were the days
You mean best four wheels car ever
It’s too bad things changed...CART was and will always be better than IRL
No. The noses and sidepods were much uglier than in 1988-1994.
CART Fedex Championship Series.....best naming rights and best Indycar era ever
Certainly.
Absolutely right
👏👏👏
Matheus Barros totally agree
Absolutely. Best cars,best period. F1 was dead by then already but these guys were still going strong.
By 1999 CART was already on its downhill slope
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X no it was not. Look at the size of the crowd
Hey, remember when IndyCar uploaded full races *all* of the current season's races? Yeah, those were the days.
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Last year was the last season for that hopefully someone out there will take the time and dedication to upload full races on there channel I enjoy going back and watching races from the late 90s all the way to present because that's when I started watching
@@natef4240 It's a Family Guy reference.
The only guilties for this are NBC and guest what, indy racing league... Oh wait .................... Ups "indycar". Bunch of son of b*****
@@gagemcpherson4454 Unfortunatly it seems like indycar has claimed most of the races uploaded so far pretty quickly
The Cart golden era!!!
These were absolutely the best IndyCar years (they will always be Indycars for me, as in my opinion IRL doesn't count). I'm from Germany and we had Eurosport showing every race and sometimes even NASCAR. And I've always loved this track. Almost like a small Nürburgring. Would have liked to see F1 or MotoGP there
I attended this race and these cars were amazing on this track. Seeing these cars waved through on the green flag on a hot summer day is a sight and sound and smell that cannot be explained.
This track (Elkhart Lake) & Watkins Glen are some of the greatest and most loved tracks in the world. F1 has tried to race at those places before but money is the biggest issue. Not enough crowds being middle America and not in a major city, so can't market it enough. Sad because tracks like this would be spectacular for F1.
The IRL cars looked better. The CART engines were better than IRL engines though. Both used V8's; IRL sounded like NASCAR, and they made a few hundred less HP. the CART engines were 2.65L, 15,000rpm turbocharged flat plane V8's, producing 900hp, that absolutely screamed!
Yes The IRL is nowhere near as good as The Cart Series was
Road America has really grown on me over the years
It's also nice to see the extended coverage that ABC missed since golf was such a big thing for them. And nice quality too.
OSRN 2 still remember them cutting out of the coverage 😡
I think I'd cry if I were watching a Grand Prix of any kind and the sports provider's channel I was watching it on decided to switch its coverage to golf instead...
Ah Greg Moore... greatest what if in series history
Best season in INDYCAR history
GullyGamingHD if the Indy 500 was like it was supposed to be in 1999 without the split it probably would have been one for the ages.
rob mush shame greats that peaked in post split CART never got the chance to challenge for a 500 in their peak :( (Moore, Fernandez ect ect)
I have to agree boss 99 was great. 93 my 2nd fav.
2000 was the best imo. 11 different winners. Top 9 drivers were within 50 points.
I miss CART
Eric Cartman I don’t miss Tony George and the IRL.
The same 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I used to watch IndyCar racing and those are the cars I remembered from my childhood. And the engine sounds. Those were some awesome engines.
If only Indycar could bring back those V8 Turbo monsters.....
what's wrong with the V6's?
they sound a bit like the 1200+ bhp v6 monsters running on toluene from mid 1980s f1 imo
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 they are nowhere near powerful enough
I was too young to enjoy these races when Montoya started to show what he was capable of in a race car. He was a beast!!!
Juan Montoya, Great Race 👍
Those where the sexyest Indycar
1999 was my first CART season. Good upload Indycar.
Only series F1 was was afraid of... CART. They were really a big thing in the late 90's and early 00's. Even here in Europe (Finland)
woo hoo a real throwback CART baby. 2 more years the racing will get back to this with the hp upgrades.
avg lap speeds above 140mph wow only monza would be faster than this on current f1 calender.
The pole last year for this race was 140.02 mph. Still slower than cars from 20 years ago. The cars looked better, sounded better, and were faster, and the drivers had to actually shift gears themselves with one hand off the wheel. Still sad to see Greg Moore.
The IndyCars today have a lot more drag than those of 1999. This is a real penalty on the long straights of Road America.
@@AlonsoRules Yes but the power was the big diffrence in 1999 they where actually making more horsepower than f1 just not the power to weight.
@@Hooha1986 I hear ya!!! They need to bring shifting back! Make it hard to drive the car.
They were pretty close in power to F1 at the time, but with way more torque. They got similar horsepower (900) with less revs (sub 15,000 for CART vs. 18,000 for F1) thanks to turbocharging, albeit with fairly small amount of boost (maybe 7 pounds by the 99 season?).
Weight was definitely a big difference. F1 cars could be 1350 lbs WITH driver. ChampCars were 1550 without driver!
I'm inclined to believe that those front nose and rear wings make all the difference in the appearance of the cars. I think nowadays' indycars have nice bodies but not so good looking wings and noses.
Agreed. Its the Nose that throws it off. Its just a straight flat slant. throws everything off
Dallara has always created ugly looking cars, they have a fetish for ugly noses 😄
So many world class drivers on that grid and in that season, A good 15-20 guys who could be at the top of the time sheets on their day in the right car. The grid now, while good, isn't the same. Castoneves, Montoya, De Ferran (and even Gonzalo Rodriguez may he rest in peace) all joined straight from F3000 (basically F2 now) success and then Blundell, Moreno, Gugelmin, Papis, Fittipaldi from F1. Kanaan, Herta, Tracy, Moore, Da Matta all indy lights champions when it meant something (and 3 of those were champions in IRL or Champ Car). Talented American stalwarts in Pruett, Vasser and Gordon. The big nsmes of Andretti and Unser Jr. Fernandez and Carpentier were also great drivers and there were a whole stack more of solid midfield drivers. Of course there were bad drivers ( The Hattoris, Garcia Jr, PJ Jones) but not many of them in good cars
Honda, Toyota, Mercedes, Ford-Cosworth, Reynard, Lola, Swift, Goodyear, Firestone: just to name a few. What do we have today? Dallara, Honda, Ilmor (Chev) and Firestone.
Something Emptybox would appreciate. It's hard to see any modern-day motor racing series achieve the quality of racing and amount of overtaking that CART managed that year.
Sampath Rajapakse could you imagine if they still were doing the Indy 500 would many passes there would have been.
@@robminmonaca We will never know...
i don't think emptybox would appreciate that iRacing-style clusterfuck at t1 though lol
I love these rewinds
29:01 Nice Onboard with Micheal. This tracks made me love Indycar Series dispite I am from Europe.
Great race, Adrian Fernandez finished 3rd, Greg Moore (RIP) in 4th ... great drivers
What a race. What cars. What a championship.
Obviously people then set out to destroy a good thing they had going....for stupid reasons
But yeah, you really had something good going on for a while, America. Well done.
Brum Racing Tony George already was doing that already in 1997.
It’s awesome to see an old race where a driver took his first career win! I really want to see the 1998 Visionaire 500K (still not back on TH-cam yet) which was Kenny Bräck’s first career win, and the 1998 Pep Boys 400K (which is not still not back on TH-cam either)!
I remember that this race was transmitted by Inravision Canal A and RTI Televisión in afternoon hours in Colombia 20 years ago. The comments was for Ricardo Soler and Jorge Leal from the studio and the analysis was for Pablo Montoya, father of Juan Pablo that was pending of the details of each race. Good remembers for us that we lived all 1999 Fedex CART Season in the colombian television
One thing to note is that TV makes this all look calm and controlled. This is VERY different in real life. The speed, the noise, the tear gas produced from the methanol burning engines all make this to be a beautiful symphony of chaos.
Greg Moore's last rip around RA. Sigh.. Glad I was there to see it.
Yeah I didn’t think about that. GM was a future champion.
The CART Senna driver! A proud for Brazil, really. I'm from Venezuela and i was looking a Colombian driver as Montoya against the other South American. Just great to see a international competition like this. Beyond to be a national one.
Y en ese tema,se Senna no morrise en 94,ele saliria de F1 y estaria en la Penske con De Ferran y Greg Moore (RIP Moore y Senna)
21:30 for the start.
Feels just like yesterday.
Yeah man im generation '79 and those years feel like "oh wow that was that long ago?"
@@vladimirzimonja8103 It's so weird. I wonder it has been always like this.
210 miles an hour! On the best road course, the best race course in North America! I miss the 90s and cart still.
I was around 10 years old when this went down, how time flies
If only F1 uploads classic races in full 🤔
@@thejanusproject32 hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Best year in the CART nice memories.
MAGNUM If it wasn’t for the deaths I would agree
Consider how absolutely stacked this series was in 1999. Every row of this starting grid contained a champion or race winner except for the very last row.
Montoya TWICE round the outside on lap 1 amazing
Great piece of history. Fastest road track in the world in 1999? Ever heard of Monza and Hockenheim ?
On average, Monza is still slower. Even with DRS, 1000 bhp, in 2022 the highest speed in a speed trap was about 210 mph. Considering in 1999 CART cars had more power and speed then Formula 1 of 1999, Paul Page is correct. Road America is. The fastest road circuit in the world.
@@Dan-fx7qy you are completely wrong. Top speed is not what matter average speed over a lap is a better way to show it
Pole average speed in 1999 at Elkart Lake :145 Miles/hour (233 km/h)
Monza f1 1999 : pole average speed 157 miles per hour (252 km/h)
Hockenheim f1 1999 : pole average speed 148 miles per hour (239 km/h)
Look at the layout of the 3 tracks in 1999. Both Monza and Hockenheim were known as temple of speed.
Top speed isn't what matter. Talking about top speed Alesi in 2001 (close enough to 1999) did 363 km/h which is 225 miles/h
So f1 in the 90s and in the 00s allways have been faster. And Monza and Hockenheim were faster track and Elkart Lake . However Hockenheim is not anymore since 2002 when they butchered the layout
In 1999 CART had more power. But it was heavier. Way heavier
#blackdiamondpress_2k19$$$$***** Montoya WAS On a Tear dat Year! ...i 'remember' dat WELL. lol
Dan Gurney Toyota Eagle!😍
CART ruled
I miss hearing those cars
gil de ferran performed miracles this season with Goodyear tires
Yeah the Goodyear tires sucked. They only won once with DeFerran at Portland in the rain.
I remember this race. 13 year old in that time
What can you say about Michael Andretti. Great Driver and A Successful Car Owner. Only to never win the Indianapolis 500. It’s like A great NFL Quarterback never winning the Super Bowl. All In All One Of The Best to drive INDYCAR.
You can say Montoya owned him for 2 years
CART
CART is better than late indycar 2010s...
Real competition.
Man the sheet utter rawness of those engines. 900+ hp, manual shifting, breaking, and steering. No anti anything, just a dude , two petals, and balls made out steel. Dear Indycar you want views back, make this happen again. You want it cheap eliminate the custom m shock program, make those spec, easy cheap HP get rid of the ethanol, and you want excitement make them shift.
I thought turbocharger failure is a good thing because it will never affect the engine. I thought that it was unnecessary. Are all the race cars turbocharged? Do some of them run on gasoline?
13:52 uhhh Wow!! What a mistake never seen that before
Com Carinho Christian Fittipaldi
Não Perde Mais
Christian Fittipaldi
Vence o GP de Elkhart Lake
Why does, if you dont count nostalgia with it, everything seem so much better in the past? 😂
I always thought that Formula 1 should come to Road America.
Long live Tony George!!!!!!!!
:O CART in 1080p
Way to go twinkle toes!
Why does everything have a phaser on it?
Tony Kanaan has been in indycar for 20 years wow
Also is Brian Herta Colton’s dad or is that a coincidence?
Yes he is.
🇺🇸🦅ROAD AMERICA 🦅🇺🇸👌
1:17:40 Jon Beekhuis with a glorious dad joke.
Juan Montoya the best...
The poor duck...
Edmonton please.
Wow 1999 is "classic" now ?
Not good sound.
I have this recorded on VHS and it sounds the same. Not the best sound equipment back then.
Well I have some news for you
1_ Nascar already has ten times more ratings than you, 4+ millions vs 350k. And we are just the half season.
2_No third manufacture, BMW says No!!! The Germans says, "for what I want to be in a b class series"
3_and Pocono will be out of the calendar next year.