I like that Maximum Mike directly references the fact that Johnny is an unreliable narrator. Originally, Morgan Blackhand was the one to lead the team of mercs and the one to be left behind as the nuke went off fighting Adam Smasher on top of Saka Tower. Johnny literally wrote Morgan out of his memories.
Well, there was 3 group of solo, to be correct. And, this is correct, one of them was lead by Morgan. Johnny was at group 2, and was killed by Smasher inside Tower. But, he gave a chance to his team to survive. P.S And that was Militech operation.
I think the most important part of it is that Johnny talks about doing it like it was a rebellious thing to get back at the system that he was barely able to pull off, but in reality he did it as a member of a highly paid and highly skilled mercenary company run by Morgan Blackhand and owned by Militech and also did it under direct order from Militech to plant 1 of 3 nukes in Arasaka Tower, he probably hates Corporations as much as he says but in that instance he was actually being paid by Militech to plant multiple Nukes in their competitions headquarters
@@herbcrustedmeat if I remember correctly, blackhand recruited someone else who then recruited Johnny, bc they knew he had just lost Alt to Arasaka. This person left out the fact Militech was backing the op, to ensure Johnny would join and play his part without hiccups
another theory is that the Relic losing stability (or whatever it was) altered some of Johnny’s memories, and the Relic also may have been damaged when Jackie bit the dust. That’s just a theory however.
Yeah, my daughter has told me that I oughta have a TH-cam channel where I just read random things listeners send in. She says we could call it, "Max Mike Says Weird Shit."
There's a slightly greater than zero chance you'll remember me from Origins...2003? But Jonathan L. and I sat down for a conversation with you and.. that is still one of the coolest convos I've ever had, man. That and the Castle Lager.
fun fact: In the early 90s mike did a supplement for cyberpunk that layers it with world of darkness ( vampire the masquerade, werewolf apocalypse, etc.) is I always thought when he makes the vampire and the werewolf reference it's really a wink and a nod to real deep lore fans for both ips.
I love the fact that no matter how crazy any of Maximum Mike’s theories are, literally all of them could be true due to the absolutely insanity of the cyberpunk world. Hell, there’s an independent nation *on the fucking moon* because they got a massive fucking orbital cannon. This world is wild, so there could be fucking werewolves like Mike thinks. In the tabletop, you can even get vampire fangs that release venom into your victim.
People have actually found a lot more underground assets than what got used for the game, and with the apparent subway system that got left out, some believe that the corpo tunnel vampires could have been an actual thing at one point
Garry the Prophet *also* talks about nomad werewolves and Arasaka vampires...I don't know if the implant he mentions taps into Morro radio, he's a regular listener of Max Mike, or if he came to those conclusions independently, but the fact that we get two such references seems...interesting.
I love that Mike Pondsmith, the creator of the Cyberpunk universe, is a self-inserted conspiracy theorist. I don't think of Maximum Mike as a conspiracy theorist though, I think of him as an outlet for the creator to deliver some deep lore to us, the players.
A conspiracy theorist in the world of Cyberpunk is pretty much synonymous with "Guy who claims 2+2=4". Frankly, just taking a wild guess at the most horrific scenario you can imagine will probably get you pretty close to the truth.
That's what's funny. With a character like that, he can both delve into actual deep secret lore and throw completely false bonker theories, and three quarter of the time you would have no way to know which it is.
0:05 It's clear that Maximum Mike is talking about Spider Murphy here. Female? Before the DataKrash? Not known to be dead? One of the best netrunners in the world? Yeah. Spider Murphy. Especially with MM's connections in the lore. Which makes... this all the more frightening when you consider someone of Spider Murphy's credibility saying this. She knew Bartmoss. She talked with him. She's been netrunning since the beginning.. If she says the Blackwall knows Aramaic... which nothing is more frightening than something talking in a millennia-old dead language... and that there's more going on than we realize... Well... I'm inclined to believe what the character has to say.
@@paulleach3612 Good point. Definitely a character that has been around the block and in some very major points in history that likely knows what they're talking about. Which is... frightening if they weren't joking here...
@@paulleach3612 Good point. Definitely a character that has been around the block and in some very major points in history that likely knows what they're talking about. Which is... frightening if they weren't joking here...
'othing is more frightening than something talking in a millennia-old dead language' lmao no, this si such an incredibly amercian type of stupid comment
Interesting that "Morro Rock Radio" is 107.3 FM since there's actually a 107.3 FM radio station out of San Luis Obispo, which is 15 minutes south so Morro Bay (the real world location where Night City is supposed to be). Love the attention to detail.
It's actually plausible that you could take and grow fungi and use it as a neural network to run an AI, it's known that the way Fungi communicate is eerily similar to the way our brain works Makes sense that this is what is being used to manipulate the Peralezes
Only reason why it's eerie is because it's big enough you can see it with your own eyes, real time. Everything gets eerily similar once you put it under a microscope
Fun Fact while they are two separate franchises The Flood from Halo bear a huge amount of similarities to Fungi in how they operate and in the case you mentioned communicate. Imagine if the Flood were let loose in the world of Cyberpunk would be a crazy ride.
The entry about the European Space Council being killed is actually the scene we see when we first walk into Jenkins's office, at the very start of the Corpo prologue. So Mike's guesses were pretty much spot on. Arasaka did it, but it was a sloppy move by a relatively low ranking executive. One who quickly got punished or more likely killed for his efforts.
The fact that Mike voices this dude makes this even better. This is my favorite radio station and everytime he comes on I stop and listen in first person inside my car
Mike: I'm protected. They're never going to lay a hand on me. Would be hilarious if they tied this into the story about a corp hiring us to take Max Mike down, only to reveal he's actually Morgan Blackhand, which is one of Mike Pondsmith's player characters.
I love how he has all these insane things that he says about the most mundane of incidents, meanwhile for the pre-war AI that runs a taxi company, he just goes "Eh, probably just forgot to maintain em'."
*Yikes* I had no idea Hanako was close to *80.* In addition to a lot of the Soulkiller stuff, the vampire meme makes a lot of sense. And *man* the way Mike waxes lyrical about the Blackwall is hauntingly awesome. I'd love for him to just come out with a full audiobook deep dive into it from the perspective of a character that moves its lore forward. Tentatively linking the net with Hell and Rogue AIs with demons that *might actually be possessing people via cyberpsychosis* is just.. *WOW* dude, astronomical world building if all that linking is intentional!
I was reading through Cyberpunk RED recently to prep to run the tabletop game and I remember being really surprised when I saw Hanako’s name where I expected to see Saburo’s, then I remembered that basically all high-end corps have access to revolutionary medical techniques that can keep them alive.
@@Damonnanashi Yeah, which makes sense, and her ability to fight is "OK" since she's one of the most wealthy / best connected non-corpos in Night City to keep her chrome tiptop. She looks the part though, unlike Hanako, which also makes sense given Arasaka's mad genius level of genetic tinkering. Vampires, the lot of them :D
I love how there's an entire radio station dedicated to Mike Pondsmith explaining how 2077 is canon to the the rest of the Cyberpunk series and which lore in 2077 is deliberately misleading and doesn't actually contradict established contuity... And frames it as a crazy conspiracy theorist rambling nonsense.
Bartmoss flatlined. Alt offered to hit him with Soulkiller but he declined, according to Spider Murphy. Spider and Alt, now they could still be talking.
@@mightydagon i still wouldnt be surprised if his virtual self is in the ruins of the old net in a hidden compound of sorts as hes let his ai copies run around, and because that was his plan he didnt want to be soulkilled
@@mightydagonthere are shard entries talking about netrunners taking notice of new subroutines and protocols that look suspiciously like Bartmoss’s work starting to pop up in the deep
Agreed I’m in a second playthrough and it feels like a completely different game now that I’m actually paying attention to all the side story stuff. So much potential, I hope cdpr sticks with the ip
@@Dubz759 I hope they do too. Thanks choom let’s hope that the next patch and the expansion goes full in on letting the players experience some of this lore first hand.
Lots of easter eggs throughout all of this from the original Cyberpunk 2020 RPG and onward. Some of the obvious bits. Morgan Blackhand was Pondsmith's "signature character" representing the Solo class in many of scenarios for the original campaign/stories. That doesn't mean played by Mike. But rather cherished by Mike for what the Best of a Solo could be when going in a certain direction. Maximum Mike was in many ways a narrative tool in the original campaign/stories as well as a "secondary" recurring NPC; much like Ripper Jack (from many of the original books) The Bozos were one of the original gangs in the RPG and had a rivalry with the Voodoo Boys (who were VASTLY different at that point) In the "first Net" many corporations, agencies, and individuals were working on AIs with varying degrees of success. The 4th Corporate War, where Silverhand falls, originally had Johnny (among others) gibbed by Smasher. As in, if I remember the description, effectively shot in half. - sidenote: By this point, Smasher was essentially an Arasaka Full Conversion Borg, custom Dragoon. What you see in EdgeRunner does NOT do him justice and in '77 by all rights, V should have fallen, easily, at the end of the main story. - Morgan eventually squares up with Smasher as Smasher effectively gives no choice to solve the one-sided rivalry and question of: Meat v Metal. Both fall (MIA) During the 4th War, Rache Bartmoss' meat is rendered moot... it is unclear if he "survived" through his own work, Alt intervention (via SoulKiller), or there is a construct (his or something else emulating him) that persists. Post Krash, AIs are destroyed, divided, consumed, and born regularly on the other side of the Black Wall. Those kids referred to with the rumored weird abilities? Survivors of the Carbon Plague and a spinoff of the "Ended" 2020 story arc in an RPG called "CyberGen". Alt, or a fragment of her, has a role to play in that too.
Actually i think the werewolves are a refrence to something else. In the cyberpunk 2020 adventure book supliment “tales from the forlorn hope “there’s a adventure where you go to Eastern Europe and fight some genetically engineered werewolves.
0:00 - 1:45 after that Lilith AI/ Daemon cyberpsycho encounter, the final moments of Phantom of Liberty with Songbird blackwall abilities and the fact that the author of the franchise himself is narrating this, is super plausible that "Conspiracy" theory is true, Bartmoss discovered hell and opened its doors. One of the reasons why highly supersticious gangs like the voodo boys are scared and willing to contact AI's beyond the blackwall first to get protection before it crumbles, they know whats coming. Next Cyberpunk main theme probably is going to get a lot more different and interesting, a meeting between the paranormal and the digital
Most of the arasaka secret weapon stuff is actually just referring to Alt Cunningham being turned into an AI to fight AI, the bombing of arasaka Tower could have more layers than we even realize Johnny silverhand's actions that night might have been dictated by forces he didn't realize we're pulling his strings.
@@CoolerGuy121In Cyberpunk 2020 it's explained that the whole 'saka tower job was organized and paid off by Miltech, Arasaka's competitor and Johnny only led one of the three teams that planted nukes on the building. It's a nod towards the fact that Johnny is an unreliable narrator.
The net and net runners reminds me of the warp and psykers from warhammer 40k, where both netrunners and psykers can become extremely powerful using their respective realms, but risk their very lives doing so
What he says about the Klimt exhibit and real art being kept on Luna made me think of the Space Oddity side gig. Maybe Maximum Mike's informants really know some stuff.
This is the ‘verse that just keeps on giving. I love that the lore is so deep they even remembered to include fucking conspiracy theories that smack of the shit we come up with in real life
This isn’t even part of the dystopia. That’s just a thing America has. Basically every city and the surrounding area has at least one political conspiracy radio station. Usually a few more. It’s actually kind of impressive just how omnipresent they are.
I find it interesting. I didn’t even know who this was, and I was sitting in my car, listening to him whenever he would come on didn’t even know that it was the creator of the entire universe.
Fun fact Johnny silverhand is shown to be able to speak Japanese in cyberpunk red Yet another detail of lore lost to cdpr getting a star actor to replace Johnny silverhand mid production
Keanu has a rich history of Cyberpunk films and acting, this wasn't some random choice to make $. + he did a great job, and I'm not rly for celebrity endorsement in video games
KR was picked because he is a huge cult star to (older) fans of cyberpunk. His role in Johnny Mnemonic is iconic. So, when it became known he was available, well hell, how could they not. "I WANT ROOM SERVICE!"
I always wanted a gig where you interview with Maximum Mike and do just as he asks "Johnny, if you're still out there, why don't you tell us what happened?"
I love the cheeky little nod to the Not well known game of cyber generation in here too, also written by Pondsmith another alt time line hwee the carbon plague as it were was -much- more prolic and -all- the Adults were gone. Good stuff, little goofy but a fun romp.
I love the game, I love mike's game, I like the anime, jesus christ dude ... I like everything that has to do with this universe. No preference. It's all amazing.
I really wish that someone would make something like this but under this premise. Zombie apocalypse survivor starts a late night radio show; just telling stories and talking late into the night, not even sure if anyone can hear him - but still he talks. He keeps going because he hopes that his voice helps some survivors not feel quite so lonely, and it gives him something to live for. With that mid-2000s radio sound, just someone to keep you company through the dark and dangerous nights. Alan Wake almost has something like this but I haven't quite found something to scratch that itch! I love listening to this as I fall asleep though. I also put on a thunderstorm/rain loop to really give it a nice atmospheric feeling as I go to sleep.
I only know of Cyberpunk because of 2077 and so much of this was something I just took for granted. Why are the hacks called daemons? I don’t know. Maybe they just wanted a cool name? Then this videos just like, “maybe they’re actual fucking demons.” Oh. So many things I just genuinely did not think about.
Daemon is the IRL technical term for a class of programs on Unix or Linux type operating systems. Daemons continuously run in the background and perform some kind of specific task or service to the system or user. For example, the printer daemon constantly monitors for print jobs sent from other programs and then sends them on to a printer. It's the general equivalent of a "Service" on Microsoft Windows operating systems.
@@ChiefSmackahoLLC To build on this, in mythology Daemons were spirits or minor gods that served as intermediaries between the gods and humanity. They're effectively the functional "background processes" of reality. The term as applied to computing came from Maxwell's Demon, a thought experiment along the lines of Schrödinger's Cat that posited a fictional demon that could open and close a door to separate individual particles into fast-moving and slow-moving chambers. This would cause one chamber to heat up while the other one would cool.
Because they take terms from real aspects of reality and sugarcoat them. Then we have cases of terms and sayings with underlying meanings being obscured overtime.
I thought it was murphy at first. Given the black wall, mentioning rache as if she knew him personally, and just being a old runner. But yeah spoilers. 2023 I think she died arasaka tower.
@@adepressedcatwithabadnicot246 It's not clear. According to the rulebook and canon lore, (not Johnny's memories, those were tampered with) it says that she was one to hit Johnny with Soulkiller, so since Silverhand's copied brain made it out, I'd assume she'd have to, for that to happen. So who knows, maybe she's still out there.
I wonder if when someone buys a boat & disappears after the first payment & stops paying if the yacht company hires a detective/bounty hunter pirate person to track them down to resume payment.
@@leonsteinberg6965 The only thing they got right is the morro rock radio if they come to my town it's small night city is huge, if only they got it right. Probably in few years my town will be actually night city lol.
@Dj Monk3y's Studios oh, he's just saying Night City is built over the ruins Morror Bay. Like in the lore, Morro Bay was in shambles after a "post-holocaust horror' event took place there in the 90's in the lore of the games and essentially became a ghost town. So the man behind Night City, known as Richard Night, bought and leveled what was left of the town to literally construct Night City over its remains. Mike Pondsmith (creator of the Cyberpunk games and tabletop) himself also actually scouted out the town Morro Bay when he was creating Cyberpunk 2020 I believe. Which actually released back in... 1988 originally?
I hope you make a video about all of Ash comments. I have that terrible luck of not hearing the story about donkey from the beginning. Always manage to tune in in the middle, or ending. Also, is it just me, or 80% of the time they begin to speak is when exiting the bike/car? I swear, I feel like it's on purpose at this point.
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Where is the radio version of Maximum Mike introducing Archangel ? If I remember correctly it was on your chanel and I can find it anywhere ...
No lie Mike Pondsmith has a genuinely great radiocaster voice.
Too perfect. They have to follow up with more like this, because this is the best method of lore exposition, also... from the man himself.
Funny you say that because I believe he once said he *was* a radio caster.
Coming to you live, west of the Rockies! NorCal line you're on the air!
Tabletop RPG Game Masters have one kind of gift
He has a certain tone that is just great for the radio it’s hard to describe but I agree 100%
Wake up Samurai it’s time to learn your lore
I like that Maximum Mike directly references the fact that Johnny is an unreliable narrator. Originally, Morgan Blackhand was the one to lead the team of mercs and the one to be left behind as the nuke went off fighting Adam Smasher on top of Saka Tower. Johnny literally wrote Morgan out of his memories.
Well, there was 3 group of solo, to be correct. And, this is correct, one of them was lead by Morgan.
Johnny was at group 2, and was killed by Smasher inside Tower. But, he gave a chance to his team to survive.
P.S And that was Militech operation.
I think the most important part of it is that Johnny talks about doing it like it was a rebellious thing to get back at the system that he was barely able to pull off, but in reality he did it as a member of a highly paid and highly skilled mercenary company run by Morgan Blackhand and owned by Militech and also did it under direct order from Militech to plant 1 of 3 nukes in Arasaka Tower, he probably hates Corporations as much as he says but in that instance he was actually being paid by Militech to plant multiple Nukes in their competitions headquarters
You mean Johnny, the most narcissistic person on the planet, Silverhand made himself the hero of the story?
I'd say I'm shocked, but...
@@herbcrustedmeat if I remember correctly, blackhand recruited someone else who then recruited Johnny, bc they knew he had just lost Alt to Arasaka.
This person left out the fact Militech was backing the op, to ensure Johnny would join and play his part without hiccups
another theory is that the Relic losing stability (or whatever it was) altered some of Johnny’s memories, and the Relic also may have been damaged when Jackie bit the dust. That’s just a theory however.
Yeah, my daughter has told me that I oughta have a TH-cam channel where I just read random things listeners send in. She says we could call it, "Max Mike Says Weird Shit."
Solid idea, I would chip in 100%
There's a slightly greater than zero chance you'll remember me from Origins...2003? But Jonathan L. and I sat down for a conversation with you and.. that is still one of the coolest convos I've ever had, man. That and the Castle Lager.
are u the real mike pondsmith?
big fan of the setting btw
I'd definitely be tuning into that all the time, perfect voice for it for sure!
So very much up for that.
fun fact: In the early 90s mike did a supplement for cyberpunk that layers it with world of darkness ( vampire the masquerade, werewolf apocalypse, etc.) is I always thought when he makes the vampire and the werewolf reference it's really a wink and a nod to real deep lore fans for both ips.
What's the book called?
@@HuevoBendito there's white wolf magazine #36 I believe, and also world of darkness: mirrors and mirrors edge.
also in the June 94 issue of white wolf press the wrote a supplement. if you look up lord of stygia his 5000 sub videos is about it
Wait, so they're actually connected? Or is it an alternate timeline thing?
@@kieranadamson3224 Alternate timeline
I love the fact that no matter how crazy any of Maximum Mike’s theories are, literally all of them could be true due to the absolutely insanity of the cyberpunk world. Hell, there’s an independent nation *on the fucking moon* because they got a massive fucking orbital cannon. This world is wild, so there could be fucking werewolves like Mike thinks. In the tabletop, you can even get vampire fangs that release venom into your victim.
I'm sure they could be true, because Maximum Mike is literally the guy that created the universe lol
People have actually found a lot more underground assets than what got used for the game, and with the apparent subway system that got left out, some believe that the corpo tunnel vampires could have been an actual thing at one point
Garry the Prophet *also* talks about nomad werewolves and Arasaka vampires...I don't know if the implant he mentions taps into Morro radio, he's a regular listener of Max Mike, or if he came to those conclusions independently, but the fact that we get two such references seems...interesting.
@@Stray7 Vampires and werewolves were a thing in CYBERPUNK 2020; night's edge
That aint sh*t I got a fake dick that actually pees someone else's urine to pass my drug tests lol. WE LIVE IN THE FUTURE LOL
I wish there was more of this. Mike hook us up with a weekly podcast set in the cyberpunk universe pleaaaaase
omg yes, omg yes
I love that Mike Pondsmith, the creator of the Cyberpunk universe, is a self-inserted conspiracy theorist. I don't think of Maximum Mike as a conspiracy theorist though, I think of him as an outlet for the creator to deliver some deep lore to us, the players.
I'd say that both are true. The "character" is a conspiracy theorist, but it's also Pondsmith delving deep into the lore of the world.
A conspiracy theorist in the world of Cyberpunk is pretty much synonymous with "Guy who claims 2+2=4". Frankly, just taking a wild guess at the most horrific scenario you can imagine will probably get you pretty close to the truth.
That's what's funny. With a character like that, he can both delve into actual deep secret lore and throw completely false bonker theories, and three quarter of the time you would have no way to know which it is.
0:05
It's clear that Maximum Mike is talking about Spider Murphy here. Female? Before the DataKrash? Not known to be dead? One of the best netrunners in the world? Yeah. Spider Murphy. Especially with MM's connections in the lore. Which makes... this all the more frightening when you consider someone of Spider Murphy's credibility saying this. She knew Bartmoss. She talked with him. She's been netrunning since the beginning.. If she says the Blackwall knows Aramaic... which nothing is more frightening than something talking in a millennia-old dead language... and that there's more going on than we realize... Well... I'm inclined to believe what the character has to say.
She knew Alt as well. Spider and Bartmoss helped her to develop Soulkiller...
@@paulleach3612
Good point. Definitely a character that has been around the block and in some very major points in history that likely knows what they're talking about. Which is... frightening if they weren't joking here...
@@paulleach3612
Good point. Definitely a character that has been around the block and in some very major points in history that likely knows what they're talking about. Which is... frightening if they weren't joking here...
After seeing what Blackwall AIs can do after Phantom Liberty? I'd be inclined to believe The Net is Hell too.
'othing is more frightening than something talking in a millennia-old dead language' lmao no, this si such an incredibly amercian type of stupid comment
Imagine having a radio station where you get to speak about the lore you yourself created. Defo an inspiration!!
"If I knew what caused cyberpsychosis I'd tell you." The irony lol
Yup, it's settled. This will be my ASMR video when I go to sleep.
Same here choom
Mikes cyberpunk universe is the perfect mix of all the best cyberpunk stories in 1 and this radio program is an example of that.
Interesting that "Morro Rock Radio" is 107.3 FM since there's actually a 107.3 FM radio station out of San Luis Obispo, which is 15 minutes south so Morro Bay (the real world location where Night City is supposed to be). Love the attention to detail.
The real 107.3 FM also played Modern Rock up until 2016 when they dropped the format.
@@Coliver they stopped playing right in early 2000's. It was a smooth jazz station for a number of years after that.
It's actually plausible that you could take and grow fungi and use it as a neural network to run an AI, it's known that the way Fungi communicate is eerily similar to the way our brain works
Makes sense that this is what is being used to manipulate the Peralezes
Only reason why it's eerie is because it's big enough you can see it with your own eyes, real time. Everything gets eerily similar once you put it under a microscope
Fun Fact while they are two separate franchises The Flood from Halo bear a huge amount of similarities to Fungi in how they operate and in the case you mentioned communicate.
Imagine if the Flood were let loose in the world of Cyberpunk would be a crazy ride.
@@Burning-Twilight … no, dude. Crap idea.
@@Burning-Twilight The world would be a flood breeding ground within a year.
@@OfAngelsAndAnarchist I'm not sure I understand your statement?
The entry about the European Space Council being killed is actually the scene we see when we first walk into Jenkins's office, at the very start of the Corpo prologue. So Mike's guesses were pretty much spot on. Arasaka did it, but it was a sloppy move by a relatively low ranking executive. One who quickly got punished or more likely killed for his efforts.
Oh, he definitely got killed. There's an Easter Egg -- you can find a memorial to him in the Columbarium.
@@Stray7 oh yeah I forgot about that, I remember seeing it while doing the happy together quest way back during my first playthrough
God Mike Pondsmith has the perfect voice for a conspiracy theorist like Maximum Mike.
Every bit of corporate exploitation makes me understand a little more why Johnny nuked Night City
The fact that Mike voices this dude makes this even better. This is my favorite radio station and everytime he comes on I stop and listen in first person inside my car
Mike: I'm protected. They're never going to lay a hand on me.
Would be hilarious if they tied this into the story about a corp hiring us to take Max Mike down, only to reveal he's actually Morgan Blackhand, which is one of Mike Pondsmith's player characters.
I love how he has all these insane things that he says about the most mundane of incidents, meanwhile for the pre-war AI that runs a taxi company, he just goes "Eh, probably just forgot to maintain em'."
*Yikes* I had no idea Hanako was close to *80.* In addition to a lot of the Soulkiller stuff, the vampire meme makes a lot of sense.
And *man* the way Mike waxes lyrical about the Blackwall is hauntingly awesome. I'd love for him to just come out with a full audiobook deep dive into it from the perspective of a character that moves its lore forward. Tentatively linking the net with Hell and Rogue AIs with demons that *might actually be possessing people via cyberpsychosis* is just.. *WOW* dude, astronomical world building if all that linking is intentional!
I was reading through Cyberpunk RED recently to prep to run the tabletop game and I remember being really surprised when I saw Hanako’s name where I expected to see Saburo’s, then I remembered that basically all high-end corps have access to revolutionary medical techniques that can keep them alive.
Rogue looks pretty old, older than Hanako anyways. She's in the 80s-90s range.
@@Damonnanashi Yeah, which makes sense, and her ability to fight is "OK" since she's one of the most wealthy / best connected non-corpos in Night City to keep her chrome tiptop. She looks the part though, unlike Hanako, which also makes sense given Arasaka's mad genius level of genetic tinkering. Vampires, the lot of them :D
The absolutely naivety of you people, it's quite harrowing tbqh.
kerry is old enough to be my great grandfather, he's 89
Plot twist: the biotechnica mushroom computer is just there to run Minecraft with shaders
I love how there's an entire radio station dedicated to Mike Pondsmith explaining how 2077 is canon to the the rest of the Cyberpunk series and which lore in 2077 is deliberately misleading and doesn't actually contradict established contuity...
And frames it as a crazy conspiracy theorist rambling nonsense.
Spider Murphy, Rache Bartmoss, Alt Cunningham. I have a feeling they're all still in communication.
Bartmoss flatlined. Alt offered to hit him with Soulkiller but he declined, according to Spider Murphy. Spider and Alt, now they could still be talking.
@@mightydagon i still wouldnt be surprised if his virtual self is in the ruins of the old net in a hidden compound of sorts as hes let his ai copies run around, and because that was his plan he didnt want to be soulkilled
@@mightydagonthere are shard entries talking about netrunners taking notice of new subroutines and protocols that look suspiciously like Bartmoss’s work starting to pop up in the deep
@@HovektheArtistI'd be more surprised if he *didn't* do something along those lines.
@@krodmandoon3479 same
GMs going to run the new 2077 table top game coming here doing the spongebob meme.
"WRITE THAT DOWN, RIGHT THAT DOWN!!"
Can we stop to appreciate just how nice Mike's voice sounds? Like, it's genuinely relaxing to hear him talk.
Thank you, i searched for this !!!! Each time this guy pop up on the radio something happens in my playtrough and i miss what he says
Cyberpunk lore is so badass ! Some of the best side story lore shit in gaming
Agreed I’m in a second playthrough and it feels like a completely different game now that I’m actually paying attention to all the side story stuff. So much potential, I hope cdpr sticks with the ip
@@Dubz759 I hope they do too. Thanks choom let’s hope that the next patch and the expansion goes full in on letting the players experience some of this lore first hand.
I really wouldn't shorten CyberPunk like that
@@Dubz759 I think years in the future after witcher 4, they will make cpk 2 on unreal 5
@@prenoctis4749 lmfao my thoughts exactly
Love how the creator of this universe is a radio host for the obscure and macob
Lots of easter eggs throughout all of this from the original Cyberpunk 2020 RPG and onward.
Some of the obvious bits.
Morgan Blackhand was Pondsmith's "signature character" representing the Solo class in many of scenarios for the original campaign/stories. That doesn't mean played by Mike. But rather cherished by Mike for what the Best of a Solo could be when going in a certain direction.
Maximum Mike was in many ways a narrative tool in the original campaign/stories as well as a "secondary" recurring NPC; much like Ripper Jack (from many of the original books)
The Bozos were one of the original gangs in the RPG and had a rivalry with the Voodoo Boys (who were VASTLY different at that point)
In the "first Net" many corporations, agencies, and individuals were working on AIs with varying degrees of success.
The 4th Corporate War, where Silverhand falls, originally had Johnny (among others) gibbed by Smasher. As in, if I remember the description, effectively shot in half.
- sidenote: By this point, Smasher was essentially an Arasaka Full Conversion Borg, custom Dragoon. What you see in EdgeRunner does NOT do him justice and in '77 by all rights, V should have fallen, easily, at the end of the main story. -
Morgan eventually squares up with Smasher as Smasher effectively gives no choice to solve the one-sided rivalry and question of: Meat v Metal. Both fall (MIA)
During the 4th War, Rache Bartmoss' meat is rendered moot... it is unclear if he "survived" through his own work, Alt intervention (via SoulKiller), or there is a construct (his or something else emulating him) that persists. Post Krash, AIs are destroyed, divided, consumed, and born regularly on the other side of the Black Wall.
Those kids referred to with the rumored weird abilities?
Survivors of the Carbon Plague and a spinoff of the "Ended" 2020 story arc in an RPG called "CyberGen". Alt, or a fragment of her, has a role to play in that too.
This is my absolute favorite station. I love the story about the Werewolves
Loved the reference to Cyber Generations in there
The in game radio is top tier, the news, the in game samurai band, and of course Maximum Mike himself
Actually i think the werewolves are a refrence to something else. In the cyberpunk 2020 adventure book supliment “tales from the forlorn hope “there’s a adventure where you go to Eastern Europe and fight some genetically engineered werewolves.
NOVA choom
Most likely, considering he did directly mention mercs in Europe
0:00 - 1:45 after that Lilith AI/ Daemon cyberpsycho encounter, the final moments of Phantom of Liberty with Songbird blackwall abilities and the fact that the author of the franchise himself is narrating this, is super plausible that "Conspiracy" theory is true, Bartmoss discovered hell and opened its doors. One of the reasons why highly supersticious gangs like the voodo boys are scared and willing to contact AI's beyond the blackwall first to get protection before it crumbles, they know whats coming.
Next Cyberpunk main theme probably is going to get a lot more different and interesting, a meeting between the paranormal and the digital
I swear Mike could narrate the dictionary and it would be amazing.
You know what they say about conspiracies, every once in a while they hit on something. I wonder what of these might be a hint at something coming...
Most of the arasaka secret weapon stuff is actually just referring to Alt Cunningham being turned into an AI to fight AI, the bombing of arasaka Tower could have more layers than we even realize Johnny silverhand's actions that night might have been dictated by forces he didn't realize we're pulling his strings.
@@CoolerGuy121In Cyberpunk 2020 it's explained that the whole 'saka tower job was organized and paid off by Miltech, Arasaka's competitor and Johnny only led one of the three teams that planted nukes on the building. It's a nod towards the fact that Johnny is an unreliable narrator.
Garry the prophet must listen to this
Holy shit they recorded this much conspiracy radio with Mike? Why the hell am I getting the same damn story about Busan? haha
this guy, three dog and mister new vegas having a conversation would be legendary
First heard the talk show while riding through the rainy streets of Watson hunting cyber psychos, an impeccable vibe
This is so IMMERSIVE, I played this while playing Cyberpunk (as my Netrunner build, hitting gonks with BLACKWALL gateway)... I need more of this.
All the biotechnica sections are way too close to home right now...
Mike Pondsmith himself…legend!
He’s more than a legend my choom he’s a god of cyberpunk
The net and net runners reminds me of the warp and psykers from warhammer 40k, where both netrunners and psykers can become extremely powerful using their respective realms, but risk their very lives doing so
What he says about the Klimt exhibit and real art being kept on Luna made me think of the Space Oddity side gig. Maybe Maximum Mike's informants really know some stuff.
Juuuust... one more video before I go to sleep.
This is the ‘verse that just keeps on giving. I love that the lore is so deep they even remembered to include fucking conspiracy theories that smack of the shit we come up with in real life
I loved when these bits came on the radio. Never thought to actually just look up the compilation. I'd love for this to be a whole station.
Wow Mike has such a great voice for radio/podcasts
This isn’t even part of the dystopia. That’s just a thing America has. Basically every city and the surrounding area has at least one political conspiracy radio station. Usually a few more. It’s actually kind of impressive just how omnipresent they are.
The amount of plot available is quite something XD we can expect lots of nice night city storie in the future :3
Next time might check the East and stay around it see if I get ambushed by genetic wolves 😂
16:42
Carbon plague ( don't care, personal note)
My Tinman cares
I had never heard mike pond smith before this and I was genuinely surprised to learn it wasn’t a VA
I find it interesting. I didn’t even know who this was, and I was sitting in my car, listening to him whenever he would come on didn’t even know that it was the creator of the entire universe.
Another great vid thanks.
In universe equivalent of God having a podcast.
I'm glad you posted this because I played the original TT game and when I heard that Pondsmith was doing voice-overs I was thrilled!
I had no idea Mike pondsmith did the voice for this station but it makes sense. He's a great radio host tbh...
wish there was an easy way to get this stuff to play on the radio.. seems to happen at random times on morro rock 107
THANK YOU FOR CHIPPIN IN!
Fun fact Johnny silverhand is shown to be able to speak Japanese in cyberpunk red
Yet another detail of lore lost to cdpr getting a star actor to replace Johnny silverhand mid production
Keanu has a rich history of Cyberpunk films and acting, this wasn't some random choice to make $. + he did a great job, and I'm not rly for celebrity endorsement in video games
@@b.3713 you get to a point where you don't see Keanu, you see Johnny Silverhand. That's pretty amazing for a recognizable face and voice like Keanu.
KR was picked because he is a huge cult star to (older) fans of cyberpunk. His role in Johnny Mnemonic is iconic. So, when it became known he was available, well hell, how could they not.
"I WANT ROOM SERVICE!"
You say this, yet CP: RED was written with Mike and CDPR. So yeah, they know.
@@Shifty319Wait, really ? So Johnny's flashbacks are officially not canon and Smasher flatlined him inside Arasaka Tower?
I always wanted a gig where you interview with Maximum Mike and do just as he asks "Johnny, if you're still out there, why don't you tell us what happened?"
Mike pondsmirh needs to start a podcast
I love this. I run the table top rpg Cyberpunk Red. It's set in 2045 and this lore matches up with a few of my homebrew ideas. Lol.
danka chumz... got tired ov sitting in an ally listening to the same 3 songs and hopeing for a new story update on the news.
Awesome. Thank you very much!
I love the cheeky little nod to the Not well known game of cyber generation in here too, also written by Pondsmith another alt time line hwee the carbon plague as it were was -much- more prolic and -all- the Adults were gone. Good stuff, little goofy but a fun romp.
Mike: *My source is that I made it the fuck up.*
Maximum Mike, Art Bell. :D oh, this is fantastic.
The talk about cyberpychosis and the black wall leak makes me think of Maine before that thing happened.
He be dropping hints and people still don't get it.
I love the game, I love mike's game, I like the anime, jesus christ dude ... I like everything that has to do with this universe. No preference. It's all amazing.
I really wish that someone would make something like this but under this premise.
Zombie apocalypse survivor starts a late night radio show; just telling stories and talking late into the night, not even sure if anyone can hear him - but still he talks. He keeps going because he hopes that his voice helps some survivors not feel quite so lonely, and it gives him something to live for. With that mid-2000s radio sound, just someone to keep you company through the dark and dangerous nights.
Alan Wake almost has something like this but I haven't quite found something to scratch that itch! I love listening to this as I fall asleep though. I also put on a thunderstorm/rain loop to really give it a nice atmospheric feeling as I go to sleep.
I was listening to this in game and realised that one of the conspiracies he references is involving Corpo V's intro
Yes, it is.) And, what more interesting, Mike absolutely right about what happened.
Why am I just now hearing this?! I'd love for this to be intercut with ads, and music used in 2077, but that's just me
I wonder if this friend Maximum Mike is talking about is, in fact, Spider Murphy?
Most probably
PC or NPC from the Forlorn Hope
I can listen to Mike talk lore all day
Same choom
" the black wall sings in aramaic" NGE halleulujah apocalypse vibes intensify
14:50 Well we know those listeners are wrong about Bartmoss at least.
37:33 Mike's right. Whoever in Marketing managed that is a certified genius.
I only know of Cyberpunk because of 2077 and so much of this was something I just took for granted. Why are the hacks called daemons? I don’t know. Maybe they just wanted a cool name? Then this videos just like, “maybe they’re actual fucking demons.” Oh. So many things I just genuinely did not think about.
Daemon is the IRL technical term for a class of programs on Unix or Linux type operating systems. Daemons continuously run in the background and perform some kind of specific task or service to the system or user. For example, the printer daemon constantly monitors for print jobs sent from other programs and then sends them on to a printer.
It's the general equivalent of a "Service" on Microsoft Windows operating systems.
@@ChiefSmackahoLLC To build on this, in mythology Daemons were spirits or minor gods that served as intermediaries between the gods and humanity. They're effectively the functional "background processes" of reality. The term as applied to computing came from Maxwell's Demon, a thought experiment along the lines of Schrödinger's Cat that posited a fictional demon that could open and close a door to separate individual particles into fast-moving and slow-moving chambers. This would cause one chamber to heat up while the other one would cool.
Because they take terms from real aspects of reality and sugarcoat them. Then we have cases of terms and sayings with underlying meanings being obscured overtime.
16:45 to 19:00 is literally Lucy's life story.
I love this! I am also very relaxed now.🤔
Hey Vicky, hope you are doing well!
@@Kazuliski right back at ya buddy. 👍🏼
At the beginning I deadass thought his friend was Lucy. But then realized it didn't match up
I thought it was murphy at first. Given the black wall, mentioning rache as if she knew him personally, and just being a old runner.
But yeah spoilers.
2023 I think she died arasaka tower.
@@adepressedcatwithabadnicot246 It's not clear. According to the rulebook and canon lore, (not Johnny's memories, those were tampered with) it says that she was one to hit Johnny with Soulkiller, so since Silverhand's copied brain made it out, I'd assume she'd have to, for that to happen. So who knows, maybe she's still out there.
Mike definitely listened to Art Bell back when he was around. Miss him.
Mikey always reminded me of three dog from fallout 3, minus the annoying ass voice.
The lore of this world just blows me away. Did pondsmitb write it all?
I think his wife helped him out with some of it but I think he wrote most of it himself
Max Motherfuckin Mike tells it how it is maaaaan
this guy sounds eerily like Boxing Legends TV's narrator
I really enjoyed this , thank you
this is what i listen to at night to help me sleep lol. this is my ASMR
Same
I wonder if when someone buys a boat & disappears after the first payment & stops paying if the yacht company hires a detective/bounty hunter pirate person to track them down to resume payment.
My brain hurts now.
Mike Pondsmith... best radio voice of all table top game designers.
Funny we have a rock named Morro rock in my town of Morro bay
Morro Bay is the origin town of Night city
@@leonsteinberg6965 The only thing they got right is the morro rock radio if they come to my town it's small night city is huge, if only they got it right. Probably in few years my town will be actually night city lol.
@@djmonk3ysstudios898 no you missunderstand, in the lore, night city started out in the city of Morro bay. you can read it in the sourcebooks
@@leonsteinberg6965 Ok but have you been to morro bay irl I live there
@Dj Monk3y's Studios oh, he's just saying Night City is built over the ruins Morror Bay. Like in the lore, Morro Bay was in shambles after a "post-holocaust horror' event took place there in the 90's in the lore of the games and essentially became a ghost town. So the man behind Night City, known as Richard Night, bought and leveled what was left of the town to literally construct Night City over its remains.
Mike Pondsmith (creator of the Cyberpunk games and tabletop) himself also actually scouted out the town Morro Bay when he was creating Cyberpunk 2020 I believe. Which actually released back in... 1988 originally?
Saburo using a ‘Sarcophagus’ to stay alive is deff a nod to Stargate SG1. Has to be.
I hope you make a video about all of Ash comments. I have that terrible luck of not hearing the story about donkey from the beginning. Always manage to tune in in the middle, or ending.
Also, is it just me, or 80% of the time they begin to speak is when exiting the bike/car? I swear, I feel like it's on purpose at this point.