This boat offers good value for what appears to be a usable boat. Someone obviously had a vision for a practical, low maintenance little ship and executed it. I'm not crazy about every aspect, but it does offer very good value for money in a package that can be enjoyed immediately. I do like the painted bulkheads and other areas which were generally dark teak which can be a bit much. So many of these boats are full-on projects that change hands often because the newbie owners realize after-the-fact what is involved to bring them up to scratch. The owner of this boat followed through and got her done. I would offer 50k and probably settle at 55k.
That boat probably has a lot more sail area than they think. A low aspect junk sail sets a LOT of area on a very short mast, it’s one thing the rig’s advantages. I’d buy it in a heartbeat if I wanted another live aboard.
@LearningtheLines. At least you are doing a boat with a junk rig. I have “stayed” away from production boats because it is difficult to find one with anything but a marconi rig. Thanks for the video.
Had to watch twice. Love it! A true workboat. So many spend years engineering the perfect getaway in their heads, the path to shoving off must be to buy shiny stuff at West Marine, scour naval architect specs and spend precious days finding internet. Have sailed thousands of miles on old boats because the sea doesn’t give a crap, will humble, and likely change your “spent years researching” boat to something that fits your new wishes. Cruising will toss the crap out of you, this boat will significantly dampen that.. it’ll leaving you for days without wind, this boat will power through that with fuel and stores to spare.. it’ll knock you down in a gust, this boat will drop all sails with one line and never have dipped the coaming.. it’ll guarantee while you’re tied up and off provisioning some 60 Ton tuna boat will tie alongside and use your home as his fender.. it’ll blaze 12 hours of sun till you can’t walk barefoot on deck, you’ll thank the gods for the huge cockpit cover and grand living area below.. it’ll guarantee water or wine will land on your electronics, buy just enough to navigate and dry pack a spare set.. it’ll make you crazy when you buy the great upwind buoy buster and then can’t work on deck because you have no proper place to put his AND her dinghy, two paddle boards, a kayak, BBQ, solar panels, hammock, and the two spare outboards and the tanks and spare Jerry cans, paddles, life jackets and lines for the whole lot.. go ahead and buy the boat that was professionally staged and photographed and be sure to invite the local brokers for sundowners at the end of your crossing and wish you had bought a boat like this.. this is one of those boats that’ll be anchored next to you bidding you farewell as they hang a world map on the bulkhead and throw a dart. Been there, seen that. We’re on our third “bluewater” boat, 35 years old, glass over wood because they’re light, strong and cheap and currently working ashore during Covid and waiting for this winter and what looks like borders opening again to cast off and hope my comments help someone consider the odd and home-built-like-a-tank about this boat are actually what you’ll see in remote places. The boats you’ll find on long-term stints in far away places are all weird and affordable and DIY. That’s the reality those learn after living aboard for years in remote locations. The saltiest sailors have the weirdest and affordable boats. Learn from them… or don’t.
Looks like a nice open ship, to go out sail/cruise on the coast for 2-3 weeks with friends or family. Keep it really simpel, and most easy to maintain. Share it probalby with others...
Love it 🥰 I thank God that I’ll never understand the hate fest in the comment section. If you want a museum example go find one. It’s a nearly 50 year old fiberglass pleasure craft that’s been modified over the years. Get over it……
Modified to actually be self-serviceable and cruise. Indeed get over it and hope someone with a keen eye actually sees how good and comfortable life aboard this beast would be and get over the boat that is bought for show-and-tell time at the yacht club!
As long at there is hull integrity it will truly take you anywhere. I did 52k nutical miles in a 50 foot motor sailer. See 3 circumnavigatins Amazon books. The heavy boats soak up sea movement. I too had a Perkins motor. Nearly built proof. Needs a big Bruce anchor and ST 50 auto pilot and delivered to the Philippines I buy it.
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Bruce anchors are not very good anchors. A Rocna or Manson would be infinitely better.
Congratulations on your very beautiful little baby girl!! It's been awhile since I had a chance to see one of your videos (been working lots of hours lately) and it's so awesome to see her! I think Randi even is more beautiful with that "Mom" glow 😊
Interesting boat. On some of these larger boats, I wonder if the fire-sale price is simply due to the owner no longer wanting to pay the dock fees, which I can imagine are substantial.
Exactly!! A thousand a month give or take factoring in insurance and cleanings sits at the dock as an anchor to whatever an owner wants to do with that money in his/her future. Lower priced boats that show pride and thoughtfulness means an owner was 100% on this boat and is now 100% onto his next life goal and why blow that cash on moorage. A high priced boat that sits for months or years has blown any sale profit on moorage
Perfect for someone to live in comfort and ease and wander the oceans at will. I really liked the boat, from a long term live-aboard ease and low maintenance perspective. ....and junks work fine, well in fact in the blue water context!
I owned a Hudson Force 50 for over 10 years. I lived aboard for a year in Baltimore harbor. But previous owner did make a lot of, to be kind, "quirky" changes. My boat had 2 heads which was good when I had all the family aboard. Also had a Ford Lehman diesel which was. I believe, original equipment for Force 50s. I think that all the "quirky" changes are what caused the price to be so affordable.
It looks like a great boat . Thank you for sharing.. and the price is not bad
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I sailed from Seattle to Hong Kong via the scenic route in a junk schooner rigged yacht. It is the most convenient rig in the world, to quote Joshua Slocum. He sailed from Brazil to the US in a junk rigged boat, the Liberdade. Despite slanders against it, you can tack through narrow channels against the wind with a junk rig. I've done it through Agate Passage, and the Straits of Tacloban. The latest generation of wingsail rig is a junk rig with a airfoil forward section and an after hinging flap. This is the best possible rig for those who don't want to struggle with the difficult and fragile Marconi rig.
Interesting tour. After reading the comments below my question would be - What motivated the previous owner to change the boat over to that odd (to me) Junk rig? Sounds like this was a nice sailboat as originally built.
Junk rig is the easiest and simplest rig for single/short handed sailing reef on any point of sail just by easing the halyard.......... also very economical to maintain no expensive standing rigging....... the fully battened sails are easy to repair or renew............ no flogging noisy sails ........ a very under appreciated rig ....... : )
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I sailed a Marconi rigged sloop to Hawaii, Hawaii to Seattle, and Seattle to LA. I sailed a junk schooner rig across the Pacific. The junk rig is better.
It likely had an inside helm but that’s double everything that could potentially fail. And imagine a boat this size with four kids buzzing around.. no inside helm is actually better for a family with young cruisers aboard.
That was awesome you guys that Dutch diesel proved she can take anything you can give her. She will serve you well in your in your travels Congratulations it appears you have put together as you said a fine cruising vessel.
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If you are saying that a Perkins is a Dutch engine, you are mistaken.
I think the boat offers a great deal of space for someone or a couple to live-aboard. I'm not necessarily a fan of junk rigged boats, but it would be interesting to see it under sail and see how it performs. I am disappointed that although the boat appears to have a pilot house, it turns out to be only a salon. So if you expect to sail this into any weather at all, expect to be at the helm at the mercy of the elements. In my humble opinion one of the draws of conventional motorsailers is the ability to motor through weather in the safety of a pilot house. I could see myself living on this boat at the dock, but not sailing out in open waters with the potential of being exposed to heavy weather. Nice find and good video, thanks for posting.
Agreed not a fan of junk rig, but never sailed a junk rig to be fair. And it does seem like a waste of such a big pilot house, particularly if the goal was to cross the pacific ocean.
Really interesting, a Force 50 is such a beautiful cutter bone stock did you learn what the reason was for making it a catboat? Can’t understand why they removed the wheel in the pilothouse though…. Keep ‘em coming!
Or just know it’s a get-you-there-rig that’s self-serviceable, lower COE than Marconi, can be managed by one, sailed by the Lee in a pinch, reefed and doused from the cockpit and a naval architect will take your $600 and tell you she’ll sail. Eeeking out PHRF points is not what this boat is about. Skip the architect and spend that money on an autopilot. And you’re much closer to happy miles at sea.
those forward deck lockers would be gone in a storm. She's definitely in need of a lot of electronics, the Perkins was a good engine but even if in good condition it's kinda old and I bet spares might be had to come by. It seems planned to be a liveaboard but lacks amenities that would be needed for that. with it's 50' length it would be expensive to dock. The junk rig would be a learning experience for most sailors. The aft deck structure makes me wonder since it adds weight high up and I wonder how it would do in a storm.
A pretty significant issue now is insurance. Companies, it seems, will not write a NEW boat ( to them) if it's over 40 years old and longer than 40 feet.
@@Johnsouthshore Oh dear. That really should reflect in even lower prices for older boats and faster depreciation in the prices of new ones. So owners of older boats really need private docks ...
@@michaelhicks8867 if the person owns the boat and has owned it . They seem to stay on it.. it's a new owner with an issue. What may happen is that the hull may have to be placed with someplace like Lloyd's at a very high premium and non-standard policy forms.. so if someone is with a decent company and moves the coverage to a lower premium, they may regret it in a few years.
It’s a junk rig, and you don’t call it cat rigged. A single mast junk is a sloop. That’s just a ketch, and they have schooners. Junk sails have more sail area, for mast height, than Bermuda sails. Whether or not it’s got small sails depends on the actual sail area, not the height of the masts.
There are only a couple junk rigs for sale online but many hundreds seen sailing around the world.. wonder why? The safest, self-serviceable, all-points, COE down low rig
I miss the days when this was an actual sailing channel and you two showed the technology, upgrades, and how to turn a boat green. When you actually sailed, tried new products and gave your views on them.
The guy should have bought a steel boat to do stuff like this. I'd expect to see this style in places like Southern China or Thailand. It feels like an industrial/commercial-looking fishing boat now with tons of crew bunks that share mechanical space.
Love the boat. Needs some work I guess. Would prefer an electric engine if practical. Love the junk rig provided it is properly engineered. The gas stove would have to go. Don't like the draft ... Would prefer 5ft. Wrong ocean for me ... Pacific ... My lanes would be in the Caribbean and just possibly a summer sail up the East Coast to Canada and return to Caribbean via the Bahamas in the fall. Interesting tour. Many thanks.
The Force 50’s are great old pirate boats. Beautiful boats with awesome wood work and carvings. Most of these had an inside helm to port across from the galley. I love these boats and would have been interested if it wasn’t for all the painted wood and the rest of the modifications. It would just take to many boat bucks and to much work to restore her to her former glory. I’m no expert on Junk rigged boats, but I thought they had the aft mast aft of the steering station?
@@Imightberiding She looks like a Schooner rig to me... looks like the forward mast was slightly smaller but both masts about same size.... ketch would have a smaller sail aft.
It is fine to present the occasional MY. Those who live on canals (yes the USA does have some rather good and beautiful canal systems) motoring, by means of ICE or electric is the only way to get anywhere.
Yeah didn't exactly seem to be very well set up for crossing the pacific ocean, with nothing except a coupleof vhf radios an oven and portable fridge on board. But hey you never know it may have been their dream when they got it, but realized early on they could never pull off.
For someone that knows what they are getting up front. The form of they layout is good for a couple with a couple kids. Yes it needs updating and all electrical, mechanical and seaworthiness needs to be inspected and needs addressed by all before buying. Overall, I liked it, would consider buying IF the updates wouldn’t be in the 100’s of KK’s.
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I sailed across the Pacific using kerosene lighting.
I have been watching that one YW, the price keeps dropping, for a reason. When you destroy the iconic look and function of an iconic boat, you have little hope of retaining the value. The Force 50 and Formosa 51 came from the same plug. Removing the helm from the pilot house no longer makes it a pilot house. The F50 was a dream boat for many, sadly that one has been destroyed, especially if no naval architect designed the Junk rig conversion. It makes me sad to see such an iconic sailboat ruined.
Agreed. As far as I am concerned this boat is pretty much ruined. I'd take it for free, because converting it back to its former glory is going to take tens of thousands of dollars and a lot of sweat. Whoever did this to the boat... yuck.
@@StormSignal I won't stop you if you want to trust an un-engineered design to your family. I understand safety isn't for everyone and really, no one ever dies from disaster at sea.
This was kind of an odd design, especially with a “junk rig” set up. Too bad there wasn’t a second head in that rear cabin, but most likely too small. I didn’t like that the steering components were so “. in your face” and exposed. Very nice galley but cold storage was very limited. The forward second salon was a strange feature, perhaps a redesign could make that space more stateroom like. Your little Morgan stole the posting, again!
I can’t say I know anything about overnighting or spending multiple days on one could drive you nuts. A boat this size offers enough room and places that it looks like you could get off to yourself for a bit. Looks very livable to me. A lot to take care of.
Great job, very cool and unique boat. Frequent viewer, subscribed etc. One little comment for Randi. A person with your experience should not be calling fenders, bumpers. Sorry no meanness meant by this. I just felt the pain of my X- Navy, USCG Aux, father smacking me in the head when ever I talked like a land lubber. LOL
Ruined? How many workboats have varnished finishes? Wooden boats with paint instead of varnish are still sailing while varnished beauties often die with the owner who loved and lost sleep over his bright work. I love varnished wood! So much sex appeal and glow and beauty but not on my cruising boat. Paint that with a coating that’ll last years and stay off the docks.
I like your video but there is nothing affordable with most of these older big boats that you seems to like. People want to give them away because of massive maintenance and operation costs. Not counting that this is handfull to handle with a small crew.
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This boat offers good value for what appears to be a usable boat. Someone obviously had a vision for a practical, low maintenance little ship and executed it. I'm not crazy about every aspect, but it does offer very good value for money in a package that can be enjoyed immediately. I do like the painted bulkheads and other areas which were generally dark teak which can be a bit much. So many of these boats are full-on projects that change hands often because the newbie owners realize after-the-fact what is involved to bring them up to scratch. The owner of this boat followed through and got her done. I would offer 50k and probably settle at 55k.
Nice, I've walked by this boat a few times down there before it came up for sale. I actually love the aesthetics of the junk rig.
Randi pointing out the 'build your own.." book was perfect :-) The best part of the video.
That boat probably has a lot more sail area than they think. A low aspect junk sail sets a LOT of area on a very short mast, it’s one thing the rig’s advantages. I’d buy it in a heartbeat if I wanted another live aboard.
@LearningtheLines. At least you are doing a boat with a junk rig. I have “stayed” away from production boats because it is difficult to find one with anything but a marconi rig. Thanks for the video.
Had to watch twice. Love it! A true workboat.
So many spend years engineering the perfect getaway in their heads, the path to shoving off must be to buy shiny stuff at West Marine, scour naval architect specs and spend precious days finding internet. Have sailed thousands of miles on old boats because the sea doesn’t give a crap, will humble, and likely change your “spent years researching” boat to something that fits your new wishes.
Cruising will toss the crap out of you, this boat will significantly dampen that.. it’ll leaving you for days without wind, this boat will power through that with fuel and stores to spare.. it’ll knock you down in a gust, this boat will drop all sails with one line and never have dipped the coaming.. it’ll guarantee while you’re tied up and off provisioning some 60 Ton tuna boat will tie alongside and use your home as his fender.. it’ll blaze 12 hours of sun till you can’t walk barefoot on deck, you’ll thank the gods for the huge cockpit cover and grand living area below.. it’ll guarantee water or wine will land on your electronics, buy just enough to navigate and dry pack a spare set.. it’ll make you crazy when you buy the great upwind buoy buster and then can’t work on deck because you have no proper place to put his AND her dinghy, two paddle boards, a kayak, BBQ, solar panels, hammock, and the two spare outboards and the tanks and spare Jerry cans, paddles, life jackets and lines for the whole lot.. go ahead and buy the boat that was professionally staged and photographed and be sure to invite the local brokers for sundowners at the end of your crossing and wish you had bought a boat like this.. this is one of those boats that’ll be anchored next to you bidding you farewell as they hang a world map on the bulkhead and throw a dart. Been there, seen that.
We’re on our third “bluewater” boat, 35 years old, glass over wood because they’re light, strong and cheap and currently working ashore during Covid and waiting for this winter and what looks like borders opening again to cast off and hope my comments help someone consider the odd and home-built-like-a-tank about this boat are actually what you’ll see in remote places. The boats you’ll find on long-term stints in far away places are all weird and affordable and DIY. That’s the reality those learn after living aboard for years in remote locations. The saltiest sailors have the weirdest and affordable boats. Learn from them… or don’t.
There are some neat features on this one. I’m a big fan of Junk Rigs for the simplicity of operation. Needs some work but nice.
Looks like a nice open ship, to go out sail/cruise on the coast for 2-3 weeks with friends or family. Keep it really simpel, and most easy to maintain. Share it probalby with others...
Nice practical boat. Seems a liveaboard work boat to me.
Love it 🥰 I thank God that I’ll never understand the hate fest in the comment section. If you want a museum example go find one. It’s a nearly 50 year old fiberglass pleasure craft that’s been modified over the years. Get over it……
Modified to actually be self-serviceable and cruise. Indeed get over it and hope someone with a keen eye actually sees how good and comfortable life aboard this beast would be and get over the boat that is bought for show-and-tell time at the yacht club!
I *LOVE* it!! It fits my "weird" perfectly!! 🥰
As long at there is hull integrity it will truly take you anywhere. I did 52k nutical miles in a 50 foot motor sailer. See 3 circumnavigatins Amazon books. The heavy boats soak up sea movement. I too had a Perkins motor. Nearly built proof.
Needs a big Bruce anchor and ST 50 auto pilot and delivered to the Philippines I buy it.
Bruce anchors are not very good anchors. A Rocna or Manson would be infinitely better.
Congratulations on your very beautiful little baby girl!! It's been awhile since I had a chance to see one of your videos (been working lots of hours lately) and it's so awesome to see her! I think Randi even is more beautiful with that "Mom" glow 😊
My favorite videos are when you tour the unique original boats. OK boat, but a great tour. Thanks
Interesting boat. On some of these larger boats, I wonder if the fire-sale price is simply due to the owner no longer wanting to pay the dock fees, which I can imagine are substantial.
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Exactly!! A thousand a month give or take factoring in insurance and cleanings sits at the dock as an anchor to whatever an owner wants to do with that money in his/her future. Lower priced boats that show pride and thoughtfulness means an owner was 100% on this boat and is now 100% onto his next life goal and why blow that cash on moorage. A high priced boat that sits for months or years has blown any sale profit on moorage
Bless you guys! Nice to see such a good family.
These are cool boats. I really love the look of the Vagabond 47's
It's definitely neat. Super cool looking too
Perfect for someone to live in comfort and ease and wander the oceans at will. I really liked the boat, from a long term live-aboard ease and low maintenance perspective. ....and junks work fine, well in fact in the blue water context!
Nice to see you all 3 together ❤️
I owned a Hudson Force 50 for over 10 years. I lived aboard for a year in Baltimore harbor. But previous owner did make a lot of, to be kind, "quirky" changes. My boat had 2 heads which was good when I had all the family aboard. Also had a Ford Lehman diesel which was. I believe, original equipment for Force 50s. I think that all the "quirky" changes are what caused the price to be so affordable.
It looks like a great boat . Thank you for sharing.. and the price is not bad
I sailed from Seattle to Hong Kong via the scenic route in a junk schooner rigged yacht. It is the most convenient rig in the world, to quote Joshua Slocum. He sailed from Brazil to the US in a junk rigged boat, the Liberdade. Despite slanders against it, you can tack through narrow channels against the wind with a junk rig. I've done it through Agate Passage, and the Straits of Tacloban. The latest generation of wingsail rig is a junk rig with a airfoil forward section and an after hinging flap. This is the best possible rig for those who don't want to struggle with the difficult and fragile Marconi rig.
On a fifty footer you'd expect way more cold storage
Interesting tour. After reading the comments below my question would be - What motivated the previous owner to change the boat over to that odd (to me) Junk rig? Sounds like this was a nice sailboat as originally built.
Junk rig is the easiest and simplest rig for single/short handed sailing reef on any point of sail just by easing the halyard.......... also very economical to maintain no expensive standing rigging....... the fully battened sails are easy to repair or renew............ no flogging noisy sails ........ a very under appreciated rig ....... : )
I sailed a Marconi rigged sloop to Hawaii, Hawaii to Seattle, and Seattle to LA. I sailed a junk schooner rig across the Pacific. The junk rig is better.
Glad to have seen this video it was interesting. Thanks for sharing.
THE BEST Force 50 of all.. easy to mainted in and out.🙏👋😘♥️⛵️🇨🇭
Shouldn't it have an inside helm station too as motorsailor? Still for the price seems nice.
It likely had an inside helm but that’s double everything that could potentially fail. And imagine a boat this size with four kids buzzing around.. no inside helm is actually better for a family with young cruisers aboard.
Great tour! Very interesting boat. My goodness she is growing. I imagine she’ll be walking in the next video.
Really well reniew. All is well painted in good colour. Sad that isn't another weel bar in pilot house like normally.. same boat like Formosa.
This boat was converted from a similar designed boat, very interesting
That was awesome you guys that Dutch diesel proved she can take anything you can give her. She will serve you well in your in your travels Congratulations it appears you have put together as you said a fine cruising vessel.
If you are saying that a Perkins is a Dutch engine, you are mistaken.
@ I thought it was a Vanderbeek that is how I concluded it was a Dutch engine. Both are good marine engines.
I think the boat offers a great deal of space for someone or a couple to live-aboard. I'm not necessarily a fan of junk rigged boats, but it would be interesting to see it under sail and see how it performs. I am disappointed that although the boat appears to have a pilot house, it turns out to be only a salon. So if you expect to sail this into any weather at all, expect to be at the helm at the mercy of the elements. In my humble opinion one of the draws of conventional motorsailers is the ability to motor through weather in the safety of a pilot house. I could see myself living on this boat at the dock, but not sailing out in open waters with the potential of being exposed to heavy weather. Nice find and good video, thanks for posting.
Agreed not a fan of junk rig, but never sailed a junk rig to be fair. And it does seem like a waste of such a big pilot house, particularly if the goal was to cross the pacific ocean.
Thanks Guys for the video Bubs is beautiful she is going to be a chatter box all the best for now..love xx
Really interesting, a Force 50 is such a beautiful cutter bone stock did you learn what the reason was for making it a catboat? Can’t understand why they removed the wheel in the pilothouse though…. Keep ‘em coming!
We stayed on a vacation rental houseboat just down the dock from that boat. There used to be a "crazy" security guy at that marina, is he still there?
Naval architect is the skill set you're looking for on that rig.
Or just know it’s a get-you-there-rig that’s self-serviceable, lower COE than Marconi, can be managed by one, sailed by the Lee in a pinch, reefed and doused from the cockpit and a naval architect will take your $600 and tell you she’ll sail. Eeeking out PHRF points is not what this boat is about. Skip the architect and spend that money on an autopilot. And you’re much closer to happy miles at sea.
those forward deck lockers would be gone in a storm. She's definitely in need of a lot of electronics, the Perkins was a good engine but even if in good condition it's kinda old and I bet spares might be had to come by. It seems planned to be a liveaboard but lacks amenities that would be needed for that. with it's 50' length it would be expensive to dock. The junk rig would be a learning experience for most sailors. The aft deck structure makes me wonder since it adds weight high up and I wonder how it would do in a storm.
Pretty nice boat
A pretty significant issue now is insurance. Companies, it seems, will not write a NEW boat ( to them) if it's over 40 years old and longer than 40 feet.
I guess the cost plus upgrades needs to be kept at a level the owner can afford to lose. Third party liability coverage though ... is that available?
@@mikebhicks7933 yes.. that will satisfy a marina.. but some Marinas limit how old a boat is and can rent a slip
@@Johnsouthshore Oh dear. That really should reflect in even lower prices for older boats and faster depreciation in the prices of new ones. So owners of older boats really need private docks ...
@@michaelhicks8867 if the person owns the boat and has owned it
. They seem to stay on it.. it's a new owner with an issue. What may happen is that the hull may have to be placed with someplace like Lloyd's at a very high premium and non-standard policy forms.. so if someone is with a decent company and moves the coverage to a lower premium, they may regret it in a few years.
It’s a junk rig, and you don’t call it cat rigged. A single mast junk is a sloop. That’s just a ketch, and they have schooners.
Junk sails have more sail area, for mast height, than Bermuda sails. Whether or not it’s got small sails depends on the actual sail area, not the height of the masts.
You never say what the draft is on these boats are and for someone planning the Bahamas it's a important thing
That info is always shown on the intro screen shot of the boat they are about to tour. Take another look from the beginning.
@ It's clearly stated right on the screen at 46 seconds in. Pretty sure all their videos state the length, beam & draft.
Limited sailing capability.
Love the layout, upper deck and pretty much everything else
There are only a couple junk rigs for sale online but many hundreds seen sailing around the world.. wonder why? The safest, self-serviceable, all-points, COE down low rig
Could you guys please do a Nordhavn 57 motorsailer and please give me your thoughts on them
I miss the days when this was an actual sailing channel and you two showed the technology, upgrades, and how to turn a boat green. When you actually sailed, tried new products and gave your views on them.
Although I enjoy the boat tours, I miss those days too. They're coming back soon though. I promise. 😁
I love the Hudson Force 50 , looks to me like someone took a really nice vintage boat and chopped it up to create a piece of crap.
Looks like a Great boat, as long as you are not concerned about speed to get where your going....
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Wow!!!
I'm loving this boat !
The guy should have bought a steel boat to do stuff like this. I'd expect to see this style in places like Southern China or Thailand.
It feels like an industrial/commercial-looking fishing boat now with tons of crew bunks that share mechanical space.
Love the boat. Needs some work I guess. Would prefer an electric engine if practical. Love the junk rig provided it is properly engineered. The gas stove would have to go. Don't like the draft ... Would prefer 5ft. Wrong ocean for me ... Pacific ... My lanes would be in the Caribbean and just possibly a summer sail up the East Coast to Canada and return to Caribbean via the Bahamas in the fall.
Interesting tour. Many thanks.
The Force 50’s are great old pirate boats. Beautiful boats with awesome wood work and carvings. Most of these had an inside helm to port across from the galley. I love these boats and would have been interested if it wasn’t for all the painted wood and the rest of the modifications. It would just take to many boat bucks and to much work to restore her to her former glory. I’m no expert on Junk rigged boats, but I thought they had the aft mast aft of the steering station?
Pretty sure that would make it a Yawl rigged Junk, rather than a Ketch rig which this one is.
@@Imightberiding She looks like a Schooner rig to me... looks like the forward mast was slightly smaller but both masts about same size.... ketch would have a smaller sail aft.
It is fine to present the occasional MY. Those who live on canals (yes the USA does have some rather good and beautiful canal systems) motoring, by means of ICE or electric is the only way to get anywhere.
The view forward was minimal due to the large chests. I agree it was interesting to show but the Hawaii back story seems hazy
Yeah didn't exactly seem to be very well set up for crossing the pacific ocean, with nothing except a coupleof vhf radios an oven and portable fridge on board. But hey you never know it may have been their dream when they got it, but realized early on they could never pull off.
Can it be sailed by one person?
Price of 69k... Nice.
For someone that knows what they are getting up front. The form of they layout is good for a couple with a couple kids. Yes it needs updating and all electrical, mechanical and seaworthiness needs to be inspected and needs addressed by all before buying.
Overall, I liked it, would consider buying IF the updates wouldn’t be in the 100’s of KK’s.
I sailed across the Pacific using kerosene lighting.
Thank you.
Is this one also going for a dollar?
I have been watching that one YW, the price keeps dropping, for a reason. When you destroy the iconic look and function of an iconic boat, you have little hope of retaining the value. The Force 50 and Formosa 51 came from the same plug. Removing the helm from the pilot house no longer makes it a pilot house. The F50 was a dream boat for many, sadly that one has been destroyed, especially if no naval architect designed the Junk rig conversion. It makes me sad to see such an iconic sailboat ruined.
Agreed. As far as I am concerned this boat is pretty much ruined. I'd take it for free, because converting it back to its former glory is going to take tens of thousands of dollars and a lot of sweat. Whoever did this to the boat... yuck.
There is not much value to destroy in a typical Force 50. Most are in a horrible state. This looks pretty ok and a junk rig has many advantages.
@@Nerd3927 A rig/mast location change without a naval architect destroys value. No one knows if that was engineered correctly.
@@NotOnYourLife Elitist Bollocks.
@@StormSignal I won't stop you if you want to trust an un-engineered design to your family. I understand safety isn't for everyone and really, no one ever dies from disaster at sea.
Any pics or videos of her under sail?
Cute baby I guess the boat is ok😆
I want that boat was the co tact number
Hi 2nd generation Learning the Lines . NJ
I like it.
such a cute beautiful baby!
Junk Rig, as idiot proof as you can get. I was expecting a pilot house helm where the galley was at.
I guess all of these force 50s are “one off “ pretty much everyone Iv seen is not totally the same each one has its one flair’s.
This was kind of an odd design, especially with a “junk rig” set up. Too bad there wasn’t a second head in that rear cabin, but most likely too small. I didn’t like that the steering components were so “. in your face” and exposed. Very nice galley but cold storage was very limited. The forward second salon was a strange feature, perhaps a redesign could make that space more stateroom like. Your little Morgan stole the posting, again!
It may e haunted.
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I can’t say I know anything about overnighting or spending multiple days on one could drive you nuts. A boat this size offers enough room and places that it looks like you could get off to yourself for a bit. Looks very livable to me. A lot to take care of.
Great job, very cool and unique boat. Frequent viewer, subscribed etc. One little comment for Randi. A person with your experience should not be calling fenders, bumpers.
Sorry no meanness meant by this. I just felt the pain of my X- Navy, USCG Aux, father smacking me in the head when ever I talked like a land lubber. LOL
Junk is the word for that boat it is not worth the time it would take to sink it or burn it lol.
Why is Jake Gyllenhaal giving tours of sailboats?
Jake Gyllenhaal and Natalie Portman have an interesting new career.
Question do you two even own a boat anymore?
There are so many things wrong with the layout! So much wasted space for one thing.
Do you guys own a boat ?
If yes,,, a sailboat or powerboat ?
what is it ?
Such a beautiful boat, if it wasn't ruined by the owner, you never paint over wood unless you just don't care what is underneath.
Ruined? How many workboats have varnished finishes? Wooden boats with paint instead of varnish are still sailing while varnished beauties often die with the owner who loved and lost sleep over his bright work. I love varnished wood! So much sex appeal and glow and beauty but not on my cruising boat. Paint that with a coating that’ll last years and stay off the docks.
No electric head, and only one, that's a big hell no without fixing that issue. Pluck those nasty composte toilets.
I like your video but there is nothing affordable with most of these older big boats that you seems to like. People want to give them away because of massive maintenance and operation costs. Not counting that this is handfull to handle with a small crew.
please resist the temptation to use click bait key words in your video description- you are better than this.
As with most of your otherwise good video's the audio is really bad. No point having Brandy talk if it's just mumblings
I disagree