GNU Negotiations | Why is DTI so critical? Prof Bheki Mngomezulu weighs in
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- The Black Business Federation, the BBF, says the delay in finalising the government of national unity poses a significant economic risk for black business. The Federation says in a statement that the public exchange of letters between the DA and the ANC is also adding to investor uncertainty. The BBF has further urged President Cyril Ramaphosa to appoint visionaries to the ministries of Trade and Industry and Small Business. The Federation says the current uncertainty poses a risk particularly to black South Africans many of whom rely on small businesses for their livelihoods.
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My best analyst Prof Bheki Mngomezulu
So you fight for freedom to liberate your people, after only 30 years you come up with creative ideas to give that freedom back to the oppresser the DA, ANC care to explain? is it not better to govern with your siblings the EFF or the MK whichever one you are more comfortable with.
I am disappointed in Prof Mngomezulu. I am not sure why everyone is attacking the DA for supposedly negotiating in bad faith when Ramaphosa and the ANC are actually guilty of this! Ramaphosa had offered Trade, Industry and Competition to the DA and then retracted it! Is that not acting in bad faith? This professor is clearly an ANC sympathiser. The ANC lost its majority and only has 159 seats, the DA 87 and the next biggest party in the GNU is the IFP with 17 seats. The DA has EVERY right to negotiate and insist on a minimal number of cabinet positions - simple maths will tell you that it is only fair that they are given 9 positions but Ramaphosa offers them 6. Prof, if it were the other way around - the DA had 40% and the ANC 22%, would you accept it if the DA gave the ANC fewer cabinet positions than it was entitled to in terms of proportionality? I don't think so!
Yes this Prof is an ANC supporter, so his views are skew
@@GavinTrembleyou guys are just being emotional and defensive..the President has the constitutional right to hire or fire ministers .... Throughout these negotiations, the DA has been sending threatening letters to the media , threatening to collapse the GNU if their demands are not granted..spoilt brats attitude...
Based on the DA's "letters "as well as its lack of etiquette at negotiating...negative criticism, not only from this analyst, but from the members public as well, should be justified.....South Africans are not stupid...
Yes his very bias
anc this and anc that… lol
Chest pains 😂😂😂
PREROGATIVE IS OUT OF THE WINDOW....IF YOU HAVE 40% ,CONSTITUTION NEVER FORESEEN THAT WE GONNA HAVE PRESIDENT WITH NO POWER 😂😂😂
It feels like the SABC staff are more logical than their guests. They always have to explain why the guest is making no sense 😂
They are more logical in your mind because they are sympathetic to the DA agenda.
@@zunabukosi9679 Logic is logic. The guest does not understand the presidential prerogative. Since the president has chosen to consult other parties he obviously does understand his rights as president.
truth to some is so called nonsense.
@@Nick-po8sfthe guest is arguing that the right of the President to unilaterally take decisions has been compromised by the courts, .... also, the threats to collapse the GNU by the DA, if their demands are not meant, continues to undermine the President's prerogative....what is not logical here???
You people are so predictable. He's black obviously you gonna he's talking nonsense. Your know your racism comes across as childish
Is SABC News a DA news channel?
We mlisa awuzame ekugxileni ekubuzeni umbuzo, hhayi ukuxoxa indaba. Isicelo nje
Prof Mngomezulu is one the best analyst that I will always lesson to , including Dr Fikile Vilakazi , Mr Sandile Swana, Prof Tefo and Rebone Tau.
Why SABC is pretending as if they do not know that in KZN MK is sidelined, why DA should not be sidelined in Gauteng.
1. Engagement comes before the President selects individuals for his cabinet
This has always happened;an ANC President would consult the Tripartite Alliance and then after exercise his prerogative
Olive fails to comprehend that
😂😂😂 eitadaar... 😂😂😂 the eating continues in earnest.
Poor questioning from the interviewer.
Yes, Bias Judges confuse us.
GNU eliminates the political concept of OPPOSITION..No opposing as the Parliament work together to debate laws and pass instruments to be executed by the Executive..
In a perfect and fully practiced GNU , ALL elected Political Parties enter into a Power -sharing-- arrangements of the Executive proportionate to their elected vote percentage...and this must include all ,not a coalition of few parties.
National unity government, government of national unity (GNU), or national union government is a broad coalition government consisting of all parties (or all major parties) in the legislature, usually formed during a time of war or other national emergency (and indeed unemployment,poverty rates are high)
A unity government according to the principles of consensus democracy lacks opposition( or opposition parties are too small and negligible)
coalition government, or coalition cabinet, is a government where political parties enter a power-sharing arrangement of the executive. Coalition governments usually occur when no single party has achieved an absolute majority after an election. A party not having majority is common under proportional representation, but not in nations with majoritarian electoral systems.
There are different forms of coalition governments, minority coalitions and surplus majority coalition governments. A surplus majority coalition government controls more than the absolute majority of seats in parliament necessary to have a majority in the government, whereas minority coalition governments do not hold the majority of legislative seats.
A coalition government might also be created in a time of national difficulty or crisis (for example, during wartime or economic crisis) to give a government the high degree of perceived political legitimacy or collective identity, it can also play a role in diminishing internal political strife.
In such times, parties have formed all-party coalitions (national unity governments, grand coalitions). If a coalition collapses, the Prime Minister and cabinet may be ousted by a vote of no confidence, call snap elections, form a new majority coalition, or continue as a minority government.
The best GNU Can only be achieved when the power for executive positions is eliminated..
THE PROBLEM
Here surfaces the issue of Coalition government, or coalition cabinet, is a government where political parties enter a power-sharing arrangement of the executive. This is one of the reasons complete transformation from majoritarian to GNU fails..
Why...because the Political ideology of having a One Party Majority system still lingers.
Only two perfect options to perfect GNU....In considerations of current Constitutional instruments, are
Let All parties be represented in the Executive by their ELECTED Vote percentage. All parties should forward their desired candidature (equaling their percentage in parliament)to the Consulting Council which is represented by all parties.
Secondly and Lastly..
The best medicine to eliminate the hunger for Political Parties power struggle of Cabinet positions is to allow for All Executive positions to be applied for and Vetted by Parliament...No MP 's appointment to Executive possitions...All other inportant positions like of intelligence..police. defence...judiciary..let them be decided for by Parliament...not President..his duty just be to execute what the parliament pass as wholly debated laws and policies that are monitored by parliamet..
GNU
2. DTIC ,Systems drive a department, not characters . Either way, ammendment of laws is a process of legislature and then after President, therefore ,the DA can't at will change things as they wish ...systems
racists cannot be trusted.
You can fool some people some times but you just cannot fool all the people all the times. The ANC has been exposed and rejected by black people 😂😂😂
This coalition between the apartheid era NATIONAL PARTY who now called themselves the DA is a repeat of 1994 in which the turncoat ANC gave important Ministerial posts to individuals who were a part of the apartheid government.-the fake revolutionaries from the ANC haven't learnt anything from the past.
Njenge country asenzeni leya trend yokushisa izikibha ze ANC this time😂
Plan be is EFF we are tired with this 20 percent party DA
Does DA support the BRICS initiative
Who would support destroying wealth? Even India doesn't like BRICS. BRICS is a China club and doesn't even have a formal reason to exist. Check their website
Going forward, ANC should amend it's policies on Bricks relations not to be touched.
We remain part of BRICKS...
@@mamasmosoathu1364 Who said we must not be part of BRICS? ANC policies are anti black anyway so they fit with the terrorists of Iran
BRICS does not have an ideology. Compare the different gvts. They have very little in common.
@@mamasmosoathu1364 does DA support the initiative I m honestly concerned
In politics more haste less pace!
Cyril can appoint who he wants but those appointments have consequences.
If the DA aren't happy they can start a motion of no confidence and Cyril loses his job.
It's not complicated.
No. Cyril only appoints from his own party members. From other parties,they only finish him with name list. Secondly,all these delays is because of Ministries. Which departments must be allocated to which parties.
@@tsekomofokeng182 You don't get it.
Legally , Cyril can appoint who he wants.
Obviously , in the current situation he needs to consult with other parties if he wants to retain their support.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub No,is not correct. I stand by my comment.
😂😂🤣Neh?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubSecondly,there is nothing legally here,hence negotiations. Anything legally you approach courts to enforce what is binding between the two of you.
Amasela kaSlovo noTambo have been rejected😂😂😂
According to some sources, the ANC and DA agreed that the DA vote for Cyril as president and in turn the ANC would do "XYZ" - Cabinet positions" for the DA. The ANC needs to hold up their end of that agreement. The ANC is not telling the public this, Fikele must be honest.
Prof Bheki Mngomezulu democracy is all about numbers, the DA and the ANC have the numbers are history avails a long over due melange of these two prominent parties, so sir, aviod the flames and history would give you your dues, , little food for thought is add some value to this reality , the professor is always negative and has an unfinished business with his Zulu role model, ex. convict JZ
This guy doesn't seem able to follow the conversation.
Whatever happened is because of public how they voted if they have not give one party two third majority by the way if is true that the President can just do what he wants why can’t he just go ahead even if others don’t agree with him? are you saying what the President is doing by consulting others is unconstitutional?
Who wrote the constitution if not Ramaphosa?
Love professor Mngomezulu ❤
Me tooooo🎉
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This fake point about prerogative is ridiculous. SA is not a dictatorship.
Life Esidimeni, Marikane and Esindisweni massacres are dealing with the ANC😂😂😂
Anc is demanding all the ministries actually
DA is not satisfied with looting economy of this country that happened before 1994
Economy was doing a lot better before 1994.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Are you still the apartheid apologist who tries to distort history by negating the effect of sanctions on the illegitimate government of apartheid?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubit excluded the majority of the country...
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Are you aware that unemployment and inequality has increased since 1994 ?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub there was no minimum wage, the working conditions could be as horrendous as possible for CERTAIN people so som people basically owned other people and called it employment. There was habitual "mowing of the lawn" to keep the numbers down, need I go on?
Amaqabane kaTambo have been rejected Period!