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I'm disappointed. You were supposed to connect 4k monitors but there were only 2.
Ha! Actually made me lol
😂😂
Good review and appreciate the alternatives and approach. As a manager of a team that supports all kinds of devices, this was a big help for a user that wants a MBA but also wants to use multiple external monitors when they aren't traveling. :)
Thank you Alex! Greetings from Germany
Great video. Very helpful for apple silicon users trying to find the right dock
Alex, I've been searching for this answer all week since getting my MacBook Air and you're the only source that's been able to explain the how. Then you threw in the why! Awesome job, sir. *Like
im not buying macbook air until this limitation goes away with newer models. Damned apple keeps my wallet dry !
My pleasure!
Hello, do you have a air MacBook with m1 chip?
More and more I'm finding my embrace of the single monitor life and using virtual desktops to be worth it. I'd still be inclined to a Pro model Mac for the higher refresh rate of the built-in monitor, but with a desk that's only 60" wide at home that also holds my personal desktop monitor and accessories, I don't have the space to dual display things and I've never cared for KVMs. Virtual desktops on macOS are really nice once you get used to them and really help you organize things with a single display.
As a developer, I find your videos pretty simple, yet very interesting and exactly what I want watch. Nice work :)
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yeah me too, also im buying the knife to open the gigi thingy
What you think about M2 air 16gb ram for software engineering? I will go to university.. :( or should I buy a Windows laptop? (Sorry for my bad English)
@@mucahitkral8951 I was in a similar situation with you and doing the same course. instead of buying the 16gb macbook air, get the 8gb Macbook air and another monitor for 140 bucks and you can use your monitor connect to your laptop and have 2 screens when you're at home and laptop when you're are uni. the 8gb and a monitor will be the same price as the 16gb. trust me you wont me needing 16gb. also the software you'll be using will run on 8 perfectly. Besides most of the times you'll be using the schools computers. Having your codes on your monitor and the live previews of you code on the monitor is a game changer.
@@mucahitkral8951 i heard M2 are great for all these activities in fact youll see engineers using it for coding... youll have the benefit of 8 hours of battery life... also heard RISC 5 and some ARM developments are soon be in the market to compete with apple M chips... but I cant name one at the moment.... I know AMD is working on these architectures...
Thank you so much for testing it out! I’ll just get a MBP 14 then!
life saver! Thanks
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Great and insightful video. Thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful!
quite a lot of in depth data for that. nice vdo
Thanks, Alex, that was interesting :-) have a good day. 🙂
It is better to use some display link dock, which can handle one native DP Alt Mode display, so only one display will be handled with display link. Biggest drawback of display link is that it worsk as screen capture so DRM protected videos like AppleTV+, Netflix and so will not play when Display link driver is active no matter which screen is used.
Btw some Philips monotirs have DL chip build in.
Hi. The only solution I know for playing DRM content on DisplayLink is to disable hardware acceleration in the browser e.g in Chrome...
Great video. Informative and entertaining.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! Thanks Alex. 💜
We should keep in mind that Apple can kill or change the APIs DisplayLink depends on any time.
But if that happens, at least you can still use this device as a USB & Ethernet hub.
I have been using these for a long time, and honestly, DisplayLink has been really good about updating the drivers. Even when the M1 came out, DisplayLink adapted pretty quickly for ARM. If there is a disruption, it won't last long. DisplaLink chips are in a lot of external monitors, like the MobilPixels external laptop monitors, and many many other devices. They are the less famous, but more critical video chip maker in the industry that targets those of us that can't simply add a video card to our setup. They have been around for a long time, and have earned a decent reputation.
@Alex, I have been using a DisplayLink adapter from StarLink for a few years. I needed it for previous laptops, and when I got a M1 Max, I was able to support 3 monitors. I found out the hard way that the M1 Pro ( My work laptop ) only supports 2 external monitors, so I ended up breaking out the adapter, and have been happy with it on the newer setup. The only caveat that I have run into is that with DRM enabled streaming videos through a web browser ( Paramount+, SlingTV, etc ) , they will not play any video while the displaylink software is running. The Displaylink plugs in as if it is a screen recorder plugin for MacOS . DRM in streamers detects this and blocks the video to stop piracy for those with real screen recorders, so if you want to have a show playing on one screen while using this, and maybe working on some code on another, the screen will be blank. I recommend building a playlist of videos from this guy named Alex, on TH-cam, and having those play. They work fine until TH-cam puts DRM on these streams.
In any case, If you need a dedicated external extender, and not a full blown hub, I have been very very happy ( not paid by them ) with StarTech's stuff. The extender is abut $80, maybe less now, and they are durable. I have beat the heck out of this over 4 laptops, and it keeps going all day. It does run a little warm, I think all displayLink devices do, but with the one exception I mentioned, these are a WONDERFUL way to add another screen for non-gaming purposes. remember they are over USB3, so don't think you are going to get mega 4 HDR 120 FPS performance. However, if you are like me, and have a ton of windows open ( in my case management and development ) , These things are AWESOME.
Thank you for the review Alex, and keep on rocking.
You could just play the DRM content on the main laptop display though right?
Have you tested whether you can use the dual monitor with the MacBook Air lid closed? Thanks for the video, very helpful.
i've tried several ways to get my m2 macbook air to connect to 2*4K monitors, "DisplayLink" is not a stable solution,i found it sometimes cause chrome and other applications crash. Now i'm using a Type-C monitor which can power my macbook in the same cable, and airplay to a 4k apple tv to get my 2nd 4k monitor. and the tv box works beyond my expectations, it's smooth and stable
I came across DisplayLink as a software/driver etc. back when my office had Dell D6000 docks. I bought one for home use because it has USB-c, an adapter to type A, power delivery on USB-c and is built on DisplayLink. This worked well with my o.g. Macbook Pro from 2015, my recycled Windows PC and - when I bought it - my M1 Max Macbook Pro... until the dock died. Now I'm on a Dell monitor with built in KVM, but that's a different story an not related to this video. On my older machine I noticed the impact of DisplayLink on performance, which is why I ran the Windows PC via direct HDMI cable and used the dock as a USB hub only. With a modern machine it's ok, with ancient HW not so much! :D
Hello! I coped with slow downs and lower refresh lvl and resolution by connecting one monitor through usb-C and one through display link device in my macbook pro m1
hello thank you for the review my english is very little i wonder screen size for daily use vs macbook air would you recommend?
There are multiple adapters that allow dual monitors with any MacBook Air, all driven by Display Link drivers. Take your pick.
What about multiple monitors at 4k 120hz and/or more fps?
I may be biased, but whenever some Chinese brand requires to install some driver/tool, I start scratching top my head. lol, But I love your videos because you are come from developer or general user perspective.
Thanks for your time and effort, You got a new subscribed.
Very curious to hear if this works in parallels and Windows.
Good review
Can confirm, using the display port VS HDMI to the monitor issue. Display port is giving better results.
Alex can you explain how secure this device is since you have to download their drivers?
Did you try to connect two monitors forward to mac using Display Port -> Type-C cables?
Could you not still use the owc thunderbolt dock in between for a cleaner setup?
I don't mind it impacting the GPU, I would have thought with the compression it would have been utilizing the CPU - was that the case?
So, I've been using a MacBook air for like 2 years. Work gave me a dell displaylink doc (not knowing I owned mac, we use dell at work). I never even knew this lack of external display was a problem. Always worked flawlessly for me
You can connect ONE external monitor to basic M chip, up to 6k. It's not that basic M chips can't connect any display, but more of them. This is HW limitation as these processors have only two display controllers, one for built in LCD (hardwired) and other for external.
You are also limited by 6k framebuffer so because how macOs handles scaling (2x for each axis) in hiDPI mode, you will not be able to go above 3008x1260 scaled pixels on ultrawide 5k2k screen. Or use native monitor resolution but everything will be too small then.
Which budget monitor do you suggest for macbook pro m2 (2023) ? Im searching around but I am lost with resolutions , problems etc. Thanks!
On my M1 Pro MBP, I have two monitors (5K and 2KUW), then a vertical 1080p monitor over displaylink, plus the built in, plus my iPad, for 5 monitors when it’s only supposed to do 3.
hey Alex, how do you do if you wanna hook up to 2 monitors, 1 lg, other one being the studio display??
Have u found anything else better since u done this video
Please Can you do a video about Microsoft Dev home ?
If you close the display of the macbook air can it then drive two external displays?
Is there a quality difference between dock or direct?
Hey Alex! Is this hub supported by mac book pro and mac air m2 at the same time?
I have a content idea, since you have some macbooks at hand, how can you use two macbooks with universal control in a productive way as a web developer. For example I have an older macbook pro 16gb from 2018 and a macbook air m2 basemodel. How can I use them in a workflow and which apps that i use at the same time should I run on which system to balance out ram and performance usage.
Interesting I haven't heard anything about Display link in a while. It was an interesting technology 20 years ago allowing video output over USB 2.0. It worked OK on most systems. That's actually a clever use and theoretically it should work through the OWC dock since it's not actually I don't think pushing the display data through a display (HDMI, DP) profile but I could be wrong.
Thanks for the video. Its the first thing that actually worked to set up two extra monitors with my Macbook air. I am running into an issue though and wondered if others have expressed the same. THe part that plugs into my laptop seems to be very touchy. Randomly it will disconnect my monitors and the screens go black. Then I have to unplug and plug it back in or wiggle it around slightly to regain connection. Any reason for this? Any solutions? Thank you!
Thanks! This explains a lot. So, the key thing here is, it needs a docking station that is certified with Display Link. I currently have a docking station that connects to one external monitor via HDMI and another external monitor via VGA (yes, an it's old monitor but I got not much choice now). The problem is, external monitors are mirroring each other. So, I downloaded Display Link and it did not detect as well, which led me to assume that the docking station that I currently have is not certified with Display Link. May need to go and get one.
Yeah displaylink “works”. Native support would be vastly preferable though.
I’m very into multiple screen usage.
Actually, I can not work on laptop screen without at least other monitor.
hello, thank you very much for that, I'v got a 2023 macbook air and trying to connect the LG HU715QW beamer to it via HDMI, so I bought an 60hz adapter and a 15 meters 4K HDMI 60hz cable cause it is for a musical and the stage is far.I know the resolution won't be in 4K because of the lengh of the cable, please, do you have any suggestion what I should kake instead, or another system, or via wifi? thank you very much
6:45 ohh, it is the best funny part of the vide thanks man breaking the code :)
Hi Alex, is your mbp using skin guard on the body ? or no need ?
Does it drain your battery quickly though if you connect 2 monitors?
Will they hub still work if no wifi since it’s communicating with the software?
What happens if you play videos on these external displays, I can imagine the resource use depends on how hard it's having to work?
can you use the MacBook Air in clamshell mode?
Very well put together. Thanks! The latest Macbook Pro M3 (non pro) surprisingly doesn't offer more than one external monitor either. I'm assuming your solution would work for this application. Thoughts?
Great video! The DisplayLink observation of my screen is super super creepy though - has anyone else noticed that?
Waiting for you to try the xreal air with the nebula software and the quest 2/Pro (or pico 4) with immersed.
what macbook pro can do that macbook air cant do? im confuse which to get.. thanks for help
tremendo video muy útil
May i know why so many screens required? What's the task ?
“This is my favourite knife”, as if to say - “I have a LOT of knives” 😂😂😂
Does scaling work on external monitors?
Still 4K 60Hz output - probably dataspeed limitations? we are still stuck in 2021 tho. With an C2 42 as my primary driver, 60 is just dissapointing.
Hi! Using base model macbook air m2, and planning to add another monitor. Work only consists of internet browsing. only software that, i think, is heavy is google earth pro. Would it be safe to say that I can add another monitor using the dock without the lag or anything? im afraid adding another monitor might be to heavy for my base model, but taking into consideration the work i do, can i assume it wouldnt strain my macbook or deteriorate it?
Thank you! I've got a question please, any changes to that scenario in regards to the MacBook air m3?
Yes, actually. The M3 MacBook Air supports two external monitors but only when the laptop is closed
Question. Do you have any info about MacBook air thunderbolt output resolutions to external monitor or TV which are supporting 120hz refresh rate? Everyone says that only MacBook pro supports high refresh rate via thunderbolt and on MacBook air models this function is purposely limited to 4k 60hz. Is that true?
30 US$ Display Link adapter in usb 3 work like a charm on a Macbook Air M1 (up to 6). I Personnaly use only one + hdmi + macbook air screen. I've been using it since 3 years, no one was talking about that possibility, every on was saying it wasn't possible to have more than 1 external monitor.
Alex just entered his OxyClean salesman era
what about macbookpro with 3 monitprs?? I use 1 dock d6000 displaylink and the 3th I plug usbc to hdmi
It would be nice if you can test out with the power adapter being plugged into the USB-C port in the adapter. I have a "USB-C to HDMI" adapter. After I plugged in a 30W power adapter into the "USB-C to HDMI" adapter, the second monitor runs much smoother and no flickering. Make sure it's the USB-C port says USB-C PD (Power Delivery).
Is it safe, because a device is reading your frames? Is the driver open sourced, any guarantee that they are not streaming your frames?
I use 49 inch Super Ultra Wide Samsung CRG9. It's like multiple monitors in one, breeze to use with, rectangle app. And great with M2 Air that I got. Browser, IDE and console all in one window at once.
Hi, did you scale it to 2K or you are using it in 4K?
@@mateoroksandic6711 2k
7:02 Is it possible to use DisplayLink on a Macbook with the lid closed?
I’ve been using this type of setup with my M1 MBA for almost 3 years.
I have a MBA M1 too. So, I could have two externals monitors with this setup?
I have the Hyper dock to address this on my M1 Air. It’s a bummer that this wasn’t fixed in the M2. It’s actually sort of insane that this isn’t natively supported.
@@saipulivarthi Sadly, that makes a lot of sense. 💸💸💸
@@saipulivarthi Exactly most users will even never plug any monitor and just small percentage needs more than one external monitor, so it is not bug but intended feature,. Do you need more? Buy Pro instead of AIr
But does it allow one to still charge thru ?
I just hope m3 macbook air would natively support two external monitors
that’s the dream :)
Well they did it. M3 air now supports 2 external monitors
- How many dongles do you have on your desktop?
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What monitor do you have
Can use this with a vertical monitor?
I just received this device and the DisplayLink software will not install. MacBook Air M2 with Ventura 13.3. seller won't respond.
does this would work with the macbook Air M1 ??
does m2 macbook air pushes 10 bit colors to external monitors?
I have this monitor from dell who has built in dock and from my MacBook Air M2 I only have one cable to the screen and type-c cable all of my stuff are connected directly to the monitor and all works perfectly
But! I can’t attach another monitor and I do really want to work with 2 monitors
Do you have a recommendation for me?
I tried the same software with a dell D6000 docking station today. Wasn’t impressed. Went back to USB-C with U2720Q
Which one is the macbook pro? Is it an m1 or m2?
I am assuming that as the M1 was based on an old A-chip that it was modified to have just one display output. Maybe that was the limit of the construct. The MB Pro 14/16 uses the Pro chip which is two stacked M1 chips so supports 2X the displays. The M2 was the M1 overclocked due to the delay in 3nm at TSMC. I am hoping that the M3 chip is a redesign rather than simply an A17 construct, which will modify and improve the early M1/M2 designs. It will be the second build in all but name so I am expecting better maturity and improved user experience.
M series support 2 display. For mac mini, 2 external, for macbook, 1 internal 1 external.
M pro series support 3 display. For mac mini pro, 3 external, for MacBook , 1 internal, 2 external.
M Max series supports 5 display. For Studio , 5 external, for Macbook Pro, 1 internal, 4 external.
M Ultra series supports 8 display. For Studio or Pro, 8 external.
Try MacBook Pro m2 13” that also kind a lagging the mouse 🫤
There are cheaper (as in, 1/3rd the cost) displaylink adapters out there...
Hi thank you for the video. You mention "GPU History". Could you share where I can find / run that app? Best A.
You probably found it by now, but it’s under one of the top menus of activity monitor
The MacBook m1 air can be used to it, right?
I'm trying to hook up two monitors to my MacBook Pro 13" M2, 2022. I have issues with both screens working together. I can hook up one monitor at a time and, they work perfectly, so I know both ports and monitors are working but I can't get them to work at the same time/together. Any suggestions?
Alex, I got the 24gb air with the assumption I'll use display link to get the 2nd monitor but then I saw on display link forums lots of complains about bad quality when using scaling (blurry fonts etc). UHD display in native res or in 1080p is not very useful for most people so usable scaling is very important. How does it look with scaled resolutions? Does it look equally good to "native" connection?
I have one and it doesn't. Resolution is a bit less than 1080p in my opinion (my native monitor is 1080p) and it's very noticeable especially in action buttons (I mean Close - Minimise and Enter full screen) and other small on screen components. 120Hz is a maximum refresh rate but that one is ok. Worth mentioning that you won't be able to watch Netflix, HBO Max or any other streaming media platform of that kind because the video is black when this adapter is connected to a Mac while audio is working just fine. Tried to contact with HYPER to replace my device but it's been 2 months already and they don't give a damn.
All in all, I don't recommend that product. Would be much better to buy some ultra wide monitor instead.
Thanks @@MrMatix2501 . I've actually went ahead and tested two docking stations based on the highest end DisplayLink chip DL-6000 (Dell D6000 and Lenovo 40AF). I'm on an M2 MacBookAir 24GB. I use it for an additional screen for my dev work so I will skip limitations related to DRM content because for that I would use my main screen anyway, which I connect directly from the macbook, not via the dock. So i use the extra screen for productivity tasks and my setup is like this: main screen 27" UHD, side screen 1440p
- not useful for a 4k screens because HiDPI scaling is not supported and the image is blurry. As a result, it looks as if your LCD was in a non-native resolution. IMO that's unusable. Unless you have a very large screen and won't be using scaling then it might be ok. But then, it's a bit laggy, but prob still usable
- f.lux (the tool for warming up the colors at night) does not work with it. The display link driver has a checkbox to allow f.lux to work, but it still doesn't work for me - all screens get warm at night, but the one on DisplayLink does not (there might be a solution for it that I'm not aware of). I have not tested the MacOS native Night Shift
- unable to set custom resolutions on a display attached via DisplayLink. For most people this doesn't matter, but if you have a screen with uncommon resolution (i.e. LG 28MQ780 DualUp), you won't be able to use it because those screens require a tool (SwitchResX, BetterDisplay) to set custom resolution.
Lack of HiDPI scaling support is the biggest drawback because it affects nearly everybody with high res displays. On the other hand, if you are ok with using a low res screen (1080p or 1440p) then the dock does the job. I was hoping to get two 32" UHD screens but with this setup that's not going to work. Hope that helps.
Resolution with a DisplayLink solution is fine. I drive two 4k monitors with mine. The problem is the overhead of using DisplayLink, as it’s not a native solution. You don’t really notice the lag on QHD or less displays. But when you go to 4k or above, you definitely notice that the desktop animations are no longer buttery smooth.
I have one display (Apple) which only operates by USB-C. Does this allow me to run a monitor with USB-C and another by HDMI? If not, can I run one with the USB-C port on my MBAir and then use the dock for HDMI and charging?
Bought it, Tried it, Returned it. Just not great screen quality. I didnt expect it to work as well as my desktop with a GTX 1660, but after using it for a day with my macbook air 15 inch i had a major headache and eyestrain. Definitely worked as advertised, but not for being on all day.
Daily I run Macbook Pro and Windows side-by-side. With three screens, I still find it less than ideal. I'm hoping vision pro changes that in the future and then we won't be limited to physical monitors. It would be great to have as many screens as I need for the task and be able to easily move things around.
It wouldnt be able to. The farther away the object on the screen in a VR, the fewer pixels it will have at its disposal to display the item(say a monitor) within the field of view and the text inside the monitor would be blurry. If you thought a 4K(per eye) res could display 3 monitors with 4K worth of resolution each, its not going to happen unless you get close to the monitor in the VR.
Guess what apple vision pro has unlimited number of monitors, but the non-pro will be limited to a single monitor 😂😂
I use mokin with macbook pro. Only 50$, have been using it for 2-3 years.
I use an OWC display link adapter with my M2 Air. Not sure if the software they provide is better then the one provided by the manufacturer of the hub in this video, but I do not experience any "jankiness" moving a mouse around or anything like that.
Would this device also be compatible with a PC under Windows 10 without any driver installation (With 2 4K monitors)? As I need a docking that is both compatible with my personal MacBook Air M2, and my work PC on which I have no admin rights for installing drives…! Looks like a basic requirement, but I didn’t find any solution for that so far!
My Mac is recognizing both of the external displays, but it is acting as if the external displays are one display, so the two external displays are mirroring each other and my mac is the extended screen. I want to have the two external displays have an extended display, and not just mirror each other. When I go to arrangement under system displays, it is only showing two screens, while I would like to see three.