When you meet the Kelpie, Mimir says "You don't see many of those in these parts" and "In my land, they'd keep children away from the Lochs by telling them a Kelpie would drown them." - implying both Mimir and the Kelpie came from Scotland, something you could already guess from Mimir's accent in the game too
There are a lot of references to Celtic mythology and the British Islands in the Nordic saga, which makes me think they could be the setting for the next game. It would make sense, since Atreus is looking for more giants, and the Jotnar of Norse mythology have a lot of similarities with the Fomorians of Celtic myths. Not to mention, both territories are pretty close to each other.
@@Kaloraan from Scotland not England, do not disrespect Scottish by calling them British or English or anything other than Scottish, we are a separate country and do not confuse that
Thor and Surtr were my favorite new characters. When Surtr asked Atreus "You ever been in love? It's great" and he throws that little smirk...loved it.
True. In fact, Thor had 2 goats that carried him (like in Thor LAT). According to mythology he could ate them and brought them back anytime he wanted to thanks to Mjölnir.
Atreus is actually the grandson of Zeus on his fathers side, so that explains the shape shifting. (Loki could shape shift in the original myths, just cool writing incorporation)
It's not an accident. It's the same with the bald eagle, they use the sound of a Red-tailed hawk because it's much more impressive (or at least someone thought so way back when they were doing television/movies with sound).
One thing to bear in mind about GoW:R is that Kratos' presence and actions upset the Ragnarok prophecies and disrupted/changed their fulfillments and outcomes. Near the end of the previous GoW game, Mimir pointed this out to Kratos: "you've _changed_ things."
Nah, see that's the worst part about the sloppy writing of the entire GoW series The only reason Kratos isn't a stain on the ground is because the ability to kill gods was also in Pandora's box and he gained that ability Problem is *that's only for the Greek gods*, by no stretch of the imagination should that carry over to other mythologies of any kind making his entire existence outside the Greek mythology pointless and only there for money grabbing because Sony needs a gravy train as they no longer have any actual first party IPs that anyone cares about
@@victorkreig6089 He didn't carry over any of his abilities from the Greek land to Norse. There is a sequence in the lake where Mimir asks Kratos about the magic he wielded in Greek lands and if he can do it again. to which Kratos replies that he hasnt been able to even if he tried. to which Freya remarks that those abilities got lost when the Greek pantheon got toppled Conversely he gains the ability to kill Gods because in the 2018 game, his axe gets Eitr imbued by Jormungandr which is how he is able to kill Gods. hope that clears it up
@@TheMas925also, Norse gods are not completely immortal, they age very slowly and are very durable, but unlike Greek gods there is nothing saying that they CANT be killed by mortals.
@@IchigoMait His point was that kelpies aren't in NORSE mythology, they are however in Celtic which Mimir comments on by saying they are not common in that part of the world and that they are where he came from. Implying that both Mimir and the kelpie came from Scotland.
@@IchigoMait Tf are you even talking about. Little spoiler for ya, Kratos also didn't exist in Norse mythology. The world of GoW includes more than just Norse mythology. Other mythologies also exist, starting with Greek and even going toward Indian/Egyptian. It was NEVER just about Norse myths, so acting like "oh, Kelpie aren't Norse myth, therefore they don't belong" is 100% wrong.
He meant he's never done that in the stories. It's his goats that pull his chariot, but thor has never thrown his hammer and hung on to pull himself through the air. That's a marvel thing
Sit down bro you’re talking about the Thor from Marvel he’s comparing Thor from the REAL mythology to the Thor in the Game! Wake up fool not everything you see on tv is correct
@@azraelsblade Not exactly. Jim Carrey's movie introduced the idea of Loki, but in the comic the mask is apparently of African origins and is made of jade, like Mayan's ruler Pakal.
12:04 It's cool to hear the loose translation for some of these words. So this actually makes sense here now, as she seems to be trying to reveal something, like dispelling an illusion, as opposed to opening something. Also, the second part is her closing a portal they call realm tears, which is what cuts off the head, so in that context it makes a bit more sense even if it is an elementary, literal use of the words.
all the old norse is wrong, all the runs are wrong, and its not debatable. Its a fundamental lack of understanding the language. They literally just googled a bunch of words and slapped them together
Idk about the myths but the way norns function in the game seems to be in line with their names, what has happened to a person in the past shapes their choices in the present, which lets the norns know what should happen to them in their future so as they basically say in the game they dont decide fate, but through their knowledge of people they can read it pretty accurately
We do have adaptations of our own of the Norse myths here in Scandinavia and in those, both Thor and Odin and all the other gods have kept their original personalities and appearance including the chariot with the flying goats.
Same reason he must’ve missed stating that Norse and Celtic mythology has deep roots in Germanic paganism. He may only be knowledgeable if it specifically pertains to Norse myth and language.
Or IGN just edited the video down. Most of these kinds of videos are edited to hell and back because there's a lot of content to go over and normies think all professors are boring if they labor any given point so this is probably like 18 minutes of 'greatest hits' from a 2+ hour recording.
As a bird person myself those are clearly Ravens. Not only in color and shape but the main teller is the low Croaking call they have as aposed to a crows cawing sound.
Trivia: in GoW 4 (or 2018, seriously they should've given it it's own name) the world serpent spits out the axe back to Kratos when it first shows up, but what many people don't notice is the a textbox saying "Eitr Imbued" in the corner of the screen. Likely the serpent's venom got imbued into the axe, which would explain why Thor still had that Axe cut in his stomach the next we see him.
I've seen this fan theory thrown around a lot but it was shot down by devs as 'gameplay reasons only power up'. In mythology, Norse gods aren't immortal, they can die from any cause - natural or otherwise. Thor is still wounded as there's been no indication that Norse gods can heal at will, unlike the Greek (immortal) pantheon. Note: the plot kind of links to this with Odin wanting the same protection spell as Baldur to prevent wounding/death.
Love how you picked apart the crow vs raven thing . Visibly they look like crows but the game does indeed confirm they’re ravens , as the game long mission describes them as Ravens , or Odins Eyes
@@isaacwalker5290it’s a raven. The game specifically states so. Huginn and Muninn are Odin’s ravens. All throughout this game and the last game they’re referred to as ravens. They may look similar to crows, but they are ravens canonically so there’s no reason to argue.
In the game Odin has his ravens. The crows are just other birds that he controls around the nine realms and at some point in the final fight he just starts throwing flocks of crows at you, but the birds that seem to have personalities and work along side oden in the game are ravens
Well the kelpie being there could be because Mimir is said to be from another land and Tyr has travelled to places with different pantheons. (Greece and Egypt are confirmed by the treasures in his temple)
Ra would bitchslap Odin and Thor. Ra basically battles his evil twin brother Apophis (the closest being to a devil the Egyptians had) every night until the end of the universe. Ra basically fights back the dark and cold the black void between the stars of the universe every night.
@@vedbergsmagicalworld Thor hit Jjormungandr back into the past isnt "weak". Odin killed Ymir in the game, the creator of the Norse mythology just like the actual mythology and we dont even know if Odin had help of his two brothers in the game. If he did it solo, it's even more impressive than the actual mytho.
While I don't recall there being any "Kelpies" (or the equivalent) in Norse mythology, there are definitely similar creatures in Scandinavian folklore. A creature known in Sweden as Bäckahästen ("Brook Horse") was known for tricking people into riding it, at which point it would gallop into a lake to drown the rider.
WIth the addition of Kratos as Loki's father meant that Faye, Loki's mother, defied Destiny by marrying Kratos instead of her destined partner, so they were wandering away from the destiny they were supposed to be on and Ragnarok begins earlier than expected.
@@akkibajaj705 He's pretty renowned in his field of expertise but he's not exactly known everywhere else, basically he's one of the guys that makes us understand old mythological stuff that would otherwise be just random symbols and logos
Always thought Thor was using the momentum from the hammer to get so high not that he was flying. It would make sense given this is Ragnarok and all the aesir should have developed their skills and tactics to the fullest by the end times.
Actually, the special power that Mjolnir has to bring goats back to life does happen in Rick Riordan's Magnus Chase series. It's played off as a way for Thor to get infinite food.
It literally is a way for him to get infinite food. Every evening he butchers the two rams who pull his chariot and eats them and every morning they come back to life. He just needs to be careful not to break any bones whilst doing so because that would result in an actual injury that would need to heal naturally.
On the kelpie point and so on The Celtic "realm" or culture and norse culture have interacted with each other as well as are kinda entrenched in each, kinda also goes a little for slavic mythology. Norse, Celtic and Slavonic Mythology and culture have heavily borrowed and influenced from each other or are generally just similar in dynamic Similar to how greeks and romans did Or in a similar way to lots of Asian culture and beliefs for example india and china or China and Japan.
@@vergil8833 Yes, this is true but overall the mythology of the northern people (Norse, Celtic & Slavic/Baltic) is in general more similar to each other than the greek one is. It is of course due to the territorial connection throughout the centuries.
@@Stalker950-l3x Theres a source bias there since we have few sources about the northern european mythologies, so similarities are easier to assume. But for the greeks we have alot of the mythology avaliable to us, giving us more opportunities to find differences.
The game make it clear that nothing in the Norrin lair can be trusted to be real and much of it is illusion taken from Kratos, Freya and Mimir's memories. Mimir is heavily implied to be a Celtic fae who like Kratos jumped ship and went to the 9 realms. Mimir also specifically say the Kelpie was a creature from his homeland. I'm pretty sure the Kelpie wasn't real and the whole thing was just a way for the Norins to have a grand entrance. They clearly like messing with people
if I'm not mistaken when Freya cut off niddhogs head, she closed the gateway so that the gateway took the head with it, hence why she said lock whatever also, Loki/Atreas later in the game became able to control what he turned to (to some degree at least). The not controlling what he turned into was just his baby steps into what he would become
Couple notes: - Loki learns to control the shapeshifting. - The game doesn't really, truly differentiate between ravens and crows - neither do some old myths, to be fair - but what's depicted in the game is something I'd call NotRavens more than anything. They're raven-sized, crow shaped, crow sounding, but move like hawks. - Thor doesn't fly in the game, no more than Hulk typically does; you picked it up that they were going for powerful jumping. - A general note about the type of poetic license taken by the game: 'son' and 'daughter' are taken as, at different times, created, revived, cared for, et al. - Mimir and the Kelpie are both foreigners to The Nine in the canon of the game - it's heavily implied that the various pantheons have entirely separate bubbles, containing worlds and realms which can be travelled between but not in a typical method of land, sea, or air. - The fate speaking as others do isn't speaking 'the future' she's speaking 'the path one is on,' she's being used as a proof of possibility being accounted for, which seems in line with her more historical interpretations. I really hope they do get a linguist on the team going forward though, especially with the implications of the ending, the artefacts you find in game, and a few other sprinkled bits.
@@ratchetfuture2 Strictly speaking, I'd say 'no' but a simple answer might be yes. Similar to Odin's transporting, Thor seemed able to move through lightning and through controlling Mjolnir - I'd call it indirect flight at best, and assisted flight is in line with Norse 'canon' such as it is
When Atreus turned into a wolf, it reminded me of the story of Cú Chulainn. Celtic myth has been hinted at and maybe it's a nudge to it. Perhaps in an upcoming game. *edit: autocorrect changed Atreus to Asterius for some reason. 😑
Yeah there are a couple pieces of lore which address some of the things he mentioned such as the norns defining someone's actions by their predicitibility and fafe and that garm hrothvindnr is garm and doesn't have a soul, hence atreus put fenrir's soul into him. (Fenrir being a seperate being with, originally, no significance)
So disappointed he didn't go into the story and especially Ragnarokr as the event. Would be really interesting to hear his thoughts on how they handled that
6:49 if you see the scene frame by frame you will see that has his arm full stretch, that will be thor calling mjolnir while still is on his belt, lifting him up in the air
@@Geeler The Norse is still complete nonsense even if the word has some connotation to what it happening. It's like an American tourist using a dictionary to try and order food in France without having the faintest clue of grammar.
It's funny seeing everyone in the comments get annoyed about the accuracy of a game series about a demigod who single handedly destroyed the entire Greek pantheon.
@@garyhall2770 most of the gods are alive. he didn't even kill all the olympians. Artemis, Apollo, Dionysus, Hestia, Demeter all surived let alone the hundreds of minor deities. it'd be funny if it wasn't so frustrating that people keep using the 'killed an entire pantheon' thing in arguments.
@@TGPDrunknHick the whole "killing an entire pantheon" thing is mostly just an exaggeration, plus, Kratos killed the main Gods in Greek Mythology (Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, etc.) and wrecked the entirety of Olympus, which probably caused the deaths of the others Greek Gods as well indirectly.
Ey pretty thrifty editing when he said that mjolnir brings goats back to life and then cutting it with kratos being shocked back to life. You can put 2 and 2 together and basically get the metaphor.
It was soooo cool when he said the hammer can bring goats back to life and then it shows Thor bringing Kratos back to life. Cuz he’s the goooooaaaat !!!
Thor having the power lifter physique actually makes a bit of sense, considering how absurdly heavy mjolnir is. He literally has a magical weight lifting belt which more than doubles his great strength (Megingjörð) and magical weight lifting gloves (Járngreipr)
Yeah but it contradicts What Kratos said about the strength not coming from his body and smaller characters have lifted Mjolnir with ease which means they most likely went with an inheritance approach because Odin and Thrud lifted it easy without such equipment.
On the point of language, when using one of his runic bow attacks Atreus shouts "Uppnhopa!" (or something similar to that) which sounds very similar to the Swedish expression "upp och hoppa" which is something you say to people who have overslept and should get out of bed. (It literally translates into "up and jump" but is used as a more of a "go and get them" or "get out of bed, you lazy bum" kind of thing.) It just sounds a little bit weird and out of place when used in that context that he's shouting at his arrows to get out of bed.
His first point about mjolnir, i've seen it once in the movie called vallhalla legend of thor, it was kinda a bad movie but it brings some knowledge to me.
I'm pretty sure it is "Åpenbar/Åpenbarelse" which means Reveal/Revalation in modern day Norwegian. The word for public in Norwegian would be "offentlig".
@@jarls5890 men på norsk kan du jo si "åpenbar" som betyr lik "open" med betydningen av "transparent" så kan den nok brukes "til å gjøre offentlig". Tror det ikke er galt å vurdere.
opinbera is close to åpenbære in norwegian meaning reveal so im guessing thats what they meant by it. a direct translation is open-bare so the use here isnt to bad considdering she revealed the hidden roots
wait, the use of 'opinbera' makes a lot of sense in this context. Freya is 'making public' the hidden location of her ability to be human in the other realms. it is literally making something invisible visible.
It sould be noted what Niddhogg was eating the Roots of the World Tree to damage it, it did not protect it. And Garm was the one who killed Tyr so thats interesting considering he became Fenrir, and Odin became Tyr. Oh and Tyrs Weapon of Choice was apparently a Sword not a Spear.
Tyrs weapon may be interesting because by name you've probably realised Tyr was Odin all along. Odin famed for his spear. might have been foreshadowing. there was quite a lot of it.
The walls of Asgard were, at least in this game series, built by Hrimthur Thamursson, a Jötunn. Given that the Jötnar have a close association with mountains, the devs probably figured he’d make the walls like those in his homeland.
On the thing about Thor flying: he actually doesn't fly at all, but you can see that whenever he launches himself that Mjolnir starts to glow. That implies that he uses Mjolnir on his hip to propel himself upward.
Just so you know, for most of the sound effects used for ravens in film, they also use crow caws. They have a stronger and more impactful sound profile for the human ear.
For anyone interested, Jackson Crawford said something wrong at 11:03. Norns are said weaving in some poems, they are deciding the destiny that is described a lot with threads. Also, every life seems to be related to a thread, and the Valkyries (that are in fact really related to norns) are weaving the dead threads before choosing the dead men to bring back to Valhöll or Folkvangr. So I don't know why he is saying that ? For a specialist this seems to be quite a mistake
It does raise the question of how an adaptation that's slavishly faithful to each and every known detail about the mythology would look like. Really fascinating stuff.
One thing I love about mythology in fiction like this, things are left very open ended, or not even discussed at all in a lot of mythology, which opens the door for series like God of War and others to take creative liberties in certain areas to tell a more compelling story, while keeping the overall "message" of the mythology and its characters at least semi accurate.
They do usually Crawford (guy in the vid and my former professor) was consulted for work on AC Valhalla. The issue though is that for GoW they aren't trying to be "beat for beat" an accurate representation of the Norse-Celt-Pict-etc mythos, they are just using it as a background for telling their story. Versus something like Valhalla that has actual historical clashes between Anglo/Saxon and Norse raiders, so in that case they sorta HAVE to have consultants on the history of the cultures at war.
Jackson also did work on AC Valhalla for the runes in the game, his channel is a wealth of knowledge on the subjects and his translations are very linguistically friendly for non-academics.
The whole idea of the involuntary shape shifting in the first scene you analyzed was made to portray him discovering a power that is completely new and unknown to him..throughout the game he gains the ability to control it after going through some training with Angrboda. He is eventually able to shape shift on command into either a wolf or a bear depending on where you’re at in the story
What Freya said kinda makes sense as a mistake of language. In swedish ”riva” could translate to scratch in some context but most common would be tear, as in tear something apart. Just happens they call these portals ”tears” so that would explain the confusion.
If he took a look at this linguistic stuff through icelandic, it would make more sense than trying to translate them directly from (fictional) old norse to english
i think its less him flying and more he throws the hammer and then rather then him calling IT back he goes to it like a teleport. yes we see him "flying" in the snake fight at the end, but he could just be tping and then when it hits the snake he jumps off of the snake and throws it again and tps to it, like a boomerang of sorts, its less him flying and more him jumping off of the hammers momentum. because in the intro fight with thor he kind just shows up in a bolt of lightning, he never really takes off and even at the end of the fight we see him grasping the hammer as it takes off. and i mean thor isn't really the only one in gow who can use the hammer, we see odin use it too so its possible odin called it and thor hitched a ride. edit of course i could be wrong, as im mostly going off of memory and its been a year for me now and im old, but i do not ever remember him flying most tping and falling alot.
Mimir, in-game, is Celtic. Both Kratos and Freya had no Idea what the Kelpie was, until Mimir told them. He also says you don't really see them in these parts, meaning Midgard. Tells them kids are kept away from Lochs, back home, by stories of Kelpies drowning them. The part about Runes syntax, remember they are not for Linguists who might not be huge gamers... They are for gamers who might not know syntax of old Norse. Little easter eggs for them to translate. Huginn and Muninn make croaks when sitting, plus they are shaped like ravens compared to crows. Slight curved beak, curved wings, and wedged tails.
Hmm, where are the "uh no they are crows" guys at. Guess they can only argue with people who don't actually know anything and just repeating what the guy in the video said.
Thrud is not an active character in the mythology. The only story involving her by name is when she wants to marry a dwarf and her father, Thor isn't too happy about that nonsense, and keeps talking with the guy throughout the night, asking him questions upon questions, until the sun comes up and the dwarf turns to stone. Problem solved. There is no description of Thrud, and the way she looks in the game my bet is on some self-insert from the company that made the game. She does not come after Sif at all.
12.07: Opinbera kinda sounds like "åbenbare/åpenbare" in Danish/Norwegian (Bokmål), which means to make evident or to make smth appear, or like "åbenbaring/åpenbaring" which means revelation or epiphany.
What about when Thor attacked the Giant he was in a duel with from above after the giant was tricked to think Thor was tunneling underground and put his shield under him. The one were Thor smashed the Giant head but the Giant knocked door out with that rock he threw and landed on top of the Thor. That story at very least suggests Thor can jump extremely high if not fly.
yeah the whole point of the newer GOWs is Kratos arriving from Greece changed things, so somewhere along the line of predestined fate this guy showed up and changed how things were supposed to go and thus coming to Norse he ALSO interfered by marrying the person who gave birth to Loki instead of Odin (and earlier than Loki was born) and thus changed who Loki is fundamentally and changed the entirety of the history.
probably because he thought it looks small. when in fact that raven was sitting in front of thor who we all know is fckn massive when comparing to kratos who was supposedly 193cm himself. if you play the game and see the part where atreus was standing near the raven, you can clearly see how massive it actually is. or maybe because of its caws? but thats kinda dumb because you just gotta use crows caws in media because its louder and more intense. this is why they should've given him more context rather than just clips like this, it created misunderstanding more than anything.
just a little note on the moment when odin turns to look at heimdall and misses him, he actually does this in order to manipulate atreus/loki, odin spends almost the entirety of the game manipulating characters and this moment is one of the first times he gets to properly convince loki of his personability and how he is really just an old man, even though he knew exactly where heimdall was which is why heimdall looked somewhat confused as to odin's behavior
One point for context with the "Laesa rifa"/Nidhogg part....that was a cutscene after the player (Kratos) defeated the Nidhogg... it was trying escape through a portal/rift between realms that Freya closed around its neck, severing its head in the process... so very loosely interpreted she "locked" the portal, severing (i.e. "ripping") its head from its body.
When you meet the Kelpie, Mimir says "You don't see many of those in these parts" and "In my land, they'd keep children away from the Lochs by telling them a Kelpie would drown them." - implying both Mimir and the Kelpie came from Scotland, something you could already guess from Mimir's accent in the game too
Mimir is called Puck in the games and this more confirms than implies that he is a fairy from England/Scotland.
@@Kaloraan there is a line in the game where he literally calls out the lady of the lake from arthurian mythology.
This is common knowledge. Mimir says as much
There are a lot of references to Celtic mythology and the British Islands in the Nordic saga, which makes me think they could be the setting for the next game. It would make sense, since Atreus is looking for more giants, and the Jotnar of Norse mythology have a lot of similarities with the Fomorians of Celtic myths. Not to mention, both territories are pretty close to each other.
@@Kaloraan from Scotland not England, do not disrespect Scottish by calling them British or English or anything other than Scottish, we are a separate country and do not confuse that
Honestly, this is the most badass Thor I've ever seen. I'm keeping him, this is my thor from now on.
Agreed. Love Ryan Hurst.
Thor and Surtr were my favorite new characters. When Surtr asked Atreus "You ever been in love? It's great" and he throws that little smirk...loved it.
@@peanut-junder yea that was cool. though it was hard not to look at DAT CHIN like he budget-Thanos
@@xSIJUx 😂. Surtr is Thanos if he snapped a few more times. Charred.
That Thor was better then the marvel movie Thor that just came out
Mjölnir did in fact bring a GOAT back to life. 7:15
can the hammer bring dead humans back to life?
very funny comment 🤣
True. In fact, Thor had 2 goats that carried him (like in Thor LAT). According to mythology he could ate them and brought them back anytime he wanted to thanks to Mjölnir.
Yeah, he Literally bring THE GOAT back to life🤣🤣🤣
@@fernosbonos5394 no no, just delicious goats
Atreus is actually the grandson of Zeus on his fathers side, so that explains the shape shifting. (Loki could shape shift in the original myths, just cool writing incorporation)
his mother's family, the jötnar, are also known for it so, yeah, he has the precedent
Just gonna wait till atreus gets 30+ sons and daughter from different women
@@visionofsolace8961 very cool 🐺
@@dogge4649 now that you think about it, both Loki and Zeus has the same taste of literally mating with anything.
No. Loki has always been a shapeshifter. Did you not watch the video?
They may have used the wrong sounds for them, but in the game they are referred to as Ravens, even if they accidentally used Crow sounds
Also Huginn and Muninn are shown to be notably larger, so maybe the rest are crows but his two hench-birds are ravens
Ravens and crows are on the same family basically almost same thing just some sizes differences
Yeah, but you’re a multiple million (or billion) dollar company and you can’t get the correct sound right? Seems kind of lazy.
It's not an accident. It's the same with the bald eagle, they use the sound of a Red-tailed hawk because it's much more impressive (or at least someone thought so way back when they were doing television/movies with sound).
@@l4nd3r awesome comparison
Dude said never seen Asgard like that like if he saw it in real life
could you imagine a gow game written by this guy? zzzzzzz
🤣🤣🤣🤣☠
Y’all never been?
He’s seen different adaptations of it.
Pretty sure he's referring to the different versions in media. Like Marvel comics, MCU, Assassins Creed Valhalla and so on.
One thing to bear in mind about GoW:R is that Kratos' presence and actions upset the Ragnarok prophecies and disrupted/changed their fulfillments and outcomes. Near the end of the previous GoW game, Mimir pointed this out to Kratos: "you've _changed_ things."
Biggest example in the previous game being the death of Magni and Modi. Kratos destroyed fate
Nah, see that's the worst part about the sloppy writing of the entire GoW series
The only reason Kratos isn't a stain on the ground is because the ability to kill gods was also in Pandora's box and he gained that ability
Problem is *that's only for the Greek gods*, by no stretch of the imagination should that carry over to other mythologies of any kind making his entire existence outside the Greek mythology pointless and only there for money grabbing because Sony needs a gravy train as they no longer have any actual first party IPs that anyone cares about
@@victorkreig6089 He didn't carry over any of his abilities from the Greek land to Norse. There is a sequence in the lake where Mimir asks Kratos about the magic he wielded in Greek lands and if he can do it again. to which Kratos replies that he hasnt been able to even if he tried. to which Freya remarks that those abilities got lost when the Greek pantheon got toppled
Conversely he gains the ability to kill Gods because in the 2018 game, his axe gets Eitr imbued by Jormungandr which is how he is able to kill Gods.
hope that clears it up
@@TheMas925also, Norse gods are not completely immortal, they age very slowly and are very durable, but unlike Greek gods there is nothing saying that they CANT be killed by mortals.
@@victorkreig6089 You being an ignorant numpty doesn't mean the GoW games are trash.
Honestly, love how they did Thor in Ragnorok. Love how he sounds and looks badass!
Dudes literally a punching bag after kratos and him duke it once
@@Lemontarts01 2 words, “Plot Armor”!
@@Lemontarts01 no, the only person that treats him like a punching bag is Odin
Let's be honest, you guys would have loved it if Thor was a wiry little crack fiend.
Gary Bertier from Remember the Titans
Very funny how they skipped the part where mimir LITERALLY SAYS the kelpie isn’t usually here making his comment redundant
and that nothing in the Norins lair can be guaranteed to be real. Most of it is illusions taken from their memory.
@@IchigoMait His point was that kelpies aren't in NORSE mythology, they are however in Celtic which Mimir comments on by saying they are not common in that part of the world and that they are where he came from. Implying that both Mimir and the kelpie came from Scotland.
I’m sure they just gave him random clips to respond to rather than him shirting through all the content of the game to understand all the context
They just gave him clips to react to
@@IchigoMait Tf are you even talking about. Little spoiler for ya, Kratos also didn't exist in Norse mythology.
The world of GoW includes more than just Norse mythology. Other mythologies also exist, starting with Greek and even going toward Indian/Egyptian. It was NEVER just about Norse myths, so acting like "oh, Kelpie aren't Norse myth, therefore they don't belong" is 100% wrong.
For the whole "Thor flying" thing, you can see his hammer glow cause he's using it to propel his jump, it's not flight.
That’s what flying is dumbass
He meant he's never done that in the stories. It's his goats that pull his chariot, but thor has never thrown his hammer and hung on to pull himself through the air. That's a marvel thing
Sit down bro you’re talking about the Thor from Marvel he’s comparing Thor from the REAL mythology to the Thor in the Game! Wake up fool not everything you see on tv is correct
Well he’s basically flying, especially in the scene with Kratos
He does fly at the start of the game
So the Norns are basically shoulda, coulda, woulda
Now you're out of time.
He's outta line, but he's right.
But is he out of touch?
@@mosquitopyjamas9048 but, is he outta his head when you're not around?
Well. You're not wrong 😂
Paradoxically, in Valhalla the linguistic stuff was apparently handled pretty well.
Because this guy consulted on it.
@@normative Really? That would make a lot of sense.
@@kacperwoch4368 he literally says it in this video
@@normative He said he worked on ac valhalla
AS:V Adapted norse culture perfectly. As it is
Dude... he was my professor. Guy was hilarious in lectures.
what school
Woah
@@jonahlk6386 university of Colorado
what major did you study ? Old Magic ?
@@InnerTriggerer old norse, Germanic and and Scandinavian studies.
Artistic originality… and then there’s The Mask from The Mask. Which is based on an artifact called “Loki’s Mask.”
I’ve Wouldn’t have known that if I’ve never seen Son of the Mask. 👍🏼
@@antonoakenshield7362 it’s in the comics that the movies were loosely based on
@@azraelsblade Not exactly. Jim Carrey's movie introduced the idea of Loki, but in the comic the mask is apparently of African origins and is made of jade, like Mayan's ruler Pakal.
@@kavalkahnLol of course the African thing gets changed to a European thing for no reason 😂 Hollywood
@@FarikoWishless Just like every white thing turns black in releases the last 5 years or so
It's official: Kratos is GOAT
Kratos is canonically the goat
12:04 It's cool to hear the loose translation for some of these words. So this actually makes sense here now, as she seems to be trying to reveal something, like dispelling an illusion, as opposed to opening something. Also, the second part is her closing a portal they call realm tears, which is what cuts off the head, so in that context it makes a bit more sense even if it is an elementary, literal use of the words.
Was looking for this comment
That's interesting. Thanks.
In norwegian «åpenbaring» means revelation. Seems similar to «opinbera» 🤷🏾♂️
all the old norse is wrong, all the runs are wrong, and its not debatable. Its a fundamental lack of understanding the language. They literally just googled a bunch of words and slapped them together
@@undefeatedgaul3201 you must be fun at parties
Idk about the myths but the way norns function in the game seems to be in line with their names, what has happened to a person in the past shapes their choices in the present, which lets the norns know what should happen to them in their future so as they basically say in the game they dont decide fate, but through their knowledge of people they can read it pretty accurately
They act like a narrator from a tragic comedy for me
they’re just magical profilers
We do have adaptations of our own of the Norse myths here in Scandinavia and in those, both Thor and Odin and all the other gods have kept their original personalities and appearance including the chariot with the flying goats.
Are there hoes on the chariot?
Why wouldn’t the professional expert in the video mention this
Same reason he must’ve missed stating that Norse and Celtic mythology has deep roots in Germanic paganism.
He may only be knowledgeable if it specifically pertains to Norse myth and language.
Or IGN just edited the video down. Most of these kinds of videos are edited to hell and back because there's a lot of content to go over and normies think all professors are boring if they labor any given point so this is probably like 18 minutes of 'greatest hits' from a 2+ hour recording.
@@jcshark7023 Because he's an expert on the Norse languages and Sagas, not media adaptations of them.
As a bird person myself those are clearly Ravens. Not only in color and shape but the main teller is the low Croaking call they have as aposed to a crows cawing sound.
thank you!! That really bothered me when he said that
Do you know bird law?
What's the word?
I'm still not over what Tammy did to you 😢
Remember Blood Ridge?
Trivia: in GoW 4 (or 2018, seriously they should've given it it's own name) the world serpent spits out the axe back to Kratos when it first shows up, but what many people don't notice is the a textbox saying "Eitr Imbued" in the corner of the screen.
Likely the serpent's venom got imbued into the axe, which would explain why Thor still had that Axe cut in his stomach the next we see him.
I've seen this fan theory thrown around a lot but it was shot down by devs as 'gameplay reasons only power up'.
In mythology, Norse gods aren't immortal, they can die from any cause - natural or otherwise. Thor is still wounded as there's been no indication that Norse gods can heal at will, unlike the Greek (immortal) pantheon.
Note: the plot kind of links to this with Odin wanting the same protection spell as Baldur to prevent wounding/death.
@@sneb1886 Welp, if devs said so can't argue.
@@SonnyFRST devs never said something about it actually
This theory schlaps, me like
@@sneb1886 Source?
This interpretation of mjolnir did bring a goat back to life. Kratos being the G.O.A.T.
Great😀👍
Lol okay bud.
Awesome vid! Love to see experts talk about their field!
Love how you picked apart the crow vs raven thing . Visibly they look like crows but the game does indeed confirm they’re ravens , as the game long mission describes them as Ravens , or Odins Eyes
Ravens sound different and look different. If it looks like one and it “quacks” like one… it’s a crow. Call it what you want tho.
@@isaacwalker5290 looks like a raven to me
Don’t forget that we have a load of species with ravens. Like to point that out. Also crows are related to ravens, so they’re a lot off similarities
@@tiagovanhoogdalem6572 very true , some things are simpler than we think lol
@@isaacwalker5290it’s a raven. The game specifically states so. Huginn and Muninn are Odin’s ravens. All throughout this game and the last game they’re referred to as ravens. They may look similar to crows, but they are ravens canonically so there’s no reason to argue.
In the game Odin has his ravens. The crows are just other birds that he controls around the nine realms and at some point in the final fight he just starts throwing flocks of crows at you, but the birds that seem to have personalities and work along side oden in the game are ravens
The birds around the realms are very much ravens, they're explicitly called ravens often
In many cultures ravens,crows, and magpies are know to be the messengers of the divine.
Well the kelpie being there could be because Mimir is said to be from another land and Tyr has travelled to places with different pantheons. (Greece and Egypt are confirmed by the treasures in his temple)
Scotland is also confirmed from the seax and also as another person has said it could just have been an illusion made by the norns.
Ra would bitchslap Odin and Thor. Ra basically battles his evil twin brother Apophis (the closest being to a devil the Egyptians had) every night until the end of the universe. Ra basically fights back the dark and cold the black void between the stars of the universe every night.
@@paulgrattan3885 thor and odin were really weak in this game tho... :(
@@vedbergsmagicalworld Thor hit Jjormungandr back into the past isnt "weak". Odin killed Ymir in the game, the creator of the Norse mythology just like the actual mythology and we dont even know if Odin had help of his two brothers in the game. If he did it solo, it's even more impressive than the actual mytho.
While I don't recall there being any "Kelpies" (or the equivalent) in Norse mythology, there are definitely similar creatures in Scandinavian folklore. A creature known in Sweden as Bäckahästen ("Brook Horse") was known for tricking people into riding it, at which point it would gallop into a lake to drown the rider.
I'm a big fan of Professor Crawford. Not IGN, but I'll take it
IGN deserves to be clowned until the end of time.
You guys are weird
@@Intr0vertical ?
@@Intr0vertical ?
Same
WIth the addition of Kratos as Loki's father meant that Faye, Loki's mother, defied Destiny by marrying Kratos instead of her destined partner, so they were wandering away from the destiny they were supposed to be on and Ragnarok begins earlier than expected.
Is that what really happen?
Kratos is Farbauti, it’s the giants name for him, just as Atreus is Loki.
Well, the entire canon prophecy of Ragnarök from "our world" turned out to be a lie to cloud Odin's vision
No, she did marry who she is supposed to, so destiny is intact, Kratos is his greek name, Farbauti is his norse name in GOWR.
Like other's have explained Kratos is Farbauti
So glad to see Jackson getting gigs like this. This man is a bloody cultural treasure. Everyone, go read his translations.
6:50 Thor wasn't flying, he was falling with style
He does fly a few times in the game without the hammer. Though could just be really high jumping.
@@PartStupid he’s jumping, you see it later in the game
@@PartStupid nah against the world serpent he was flying u could see the ball of lightning constantly hitting him back
Reach for the skyyyy
Thor doesn't really fly its like the hammer takes him to whereever the hammer points towards
Homie is finally getting the recognition he deserves
What did he do?
@@akkibajaj705 He's doing it in this video. What kind of question is this?
@@akkibajaj705 He's pretty renowned in his field of expertise but he's not exactly known everywhere else, basically he's one of the guys that makes us understand old mythological stuff that would otherwise be just random symbols and logos
@@akkibajaj705 he translated the poetic edda into English
Always thought Thor was using the momentum from the hammer to get so high not that he was flying. It would make sense given this is Ragnarok and all the aesir should have developed their skills and tactics to the fullest by the end times.
Actually, the special power that Mjolnir has to bring goats back to life does happen in Rick Riordan's Magnus Chase series.
It's played off as a way for Thor to get infinite food.
That’s what it is in the myth too
I've not read anything by Riordan since the Percy Jackson series and a couple of the Roman books. Didn't know he had something about Norse gods
It literally is a way for him to get infinite food. Every evening he butchers the two rams who pull his chariot and eats them and every morning they come back to life. He just needs to be careful not to break any bones whilst doing so because that would result in an actual injury that would need to heal naturally.
@Rune Kristensen Marvels take on Loki in the show just had me mentality laughing because remember sleipnir
The goats coming back to life is also covered in the Iron Druids book series, in which Thor was universally hated.
On the kelpie point and so on
The Celtic "realm" or culture and norse culture have interacted with each other as well as are kinda entrenched in each, kinda also goes a little for slavic mythology.
Norse, Celtic and Slavonic Mythology and culture have heavily borrowed and influenced from each other or are generally just similar in dynamic
Similar to how greeks and romans did
Or in a similar way to lots of Asian culture and beliefs for example india and china or China and Japan.
No they're just all indo-european. They come from the same root so they have alot of things in common.
@@vergil8833 Yes, this is true but overall the mythology of the northern people (Norse, Celtic & Slavic/Baltic) is in general more similar to each other than the greek one is. It is of course due to the territorial connection throughout the centuries.
There's a theory that the Vanir are an accommodation of the Celtic Gods by the Norse after some time of cultural interplay
@@Stalker950-l3x Theres a source bias there since we have few sources about the northern european mythologies, so similarities are easier to assume. But for the greeks we have alot of the mythology avaliable to us, giving us more opportunities to find differences.
The game make it clear that nothing in the Norrin lair can be trusted to be real and much of it is illusion taken from Kratos, Freya and Mimir's memories.
Mimir is heavily implied to be a Celtic fae who like Kratos jumped ship and went to the 9 realms. Mimir also specifically say the Kelpie was a creature from his homeland.
I'm pretty sure the Kelpie wasn't real and the whole thing was just a way for the Norins to have a grand entrance. They clearly like messing with people
Just wanted to point out in the second part the birds aren't crows. They're ravens and intrinsic to the huge twist in the game's story
he saying the sound ravens dont sound like that
@@dragendebara1733 So he's a bird expert now?
@@Moonman209 you dont have to be an expert to tell the difference
@@Moonman209 He's an enthusiast on birds, has said so on his channel.
@@Moonman209 crows Caw, ravens croak
Also ravens are like twice the size of crows
0:55 Hrolf Kraki is actually in-game as the Berserker King
And so is Bodvar as one of the berserkers with a partner!
Yeah! It sounded familiar. Thanks for reminding
"Hasnt bought a goat back to life"
Kratos is G.O.A.T.
your move
That's what I'm talking about. That's why he's the MVP
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No, he's a donkey.
if I'm not mistaken when Freya cut off niddhogs head, she closed the gateway so that the gateway took the head with it, hence why she said lock whatever also, Loki/Atreas later in the game became able to control what he turned to (to some degree at least). The not controlling what he turned into was just his baby steps into what he would become
Ur rite, they didint explain wtf was going on to the guy
@Oblivious Crab yeah. It's like he watched a bunch of clips with zero context.
Couple notes:
- Loki learns to control the shapeshifting.
- The game doesn't really, truly differentiate between ravens and crows - neither do some old myths, to be fair - but what's depicted in the game is something I'd call NotRavens more than anything. They're raven-sized, crow shaped, crow sounding, but move like hawks.
- Thor doesn't fly in the game, no more than Hulk typically does; you picked it up that they were going for powerful jumping.
- A general note about the type of poetic license taken by the game: 'son' and 'daughter' are taken as, at different times, created, revived, cared for, et al.
- Mimir and the Kelpie are both foreigners to The Nine in the canon of the game - it's heavily implied that the various pantheons have entirely separate bubbles, containing worlds and realms which can be travelled between but not in a typical method of land, sea, or air.
- The fate speaking as others do isn't speaking 'the future' she's speaking 'the path one is on,' she's being used as a proof of possibility being accounted for, which seems in line with her more historical interpretations.
I really hope they do get a linguist on the team going forward though, especially with the implications of the ending, the artefacts you find in game, and a few other sprinkled bits.
Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but wasn’t Thor flying in his fight with jormungdr at the end of the game?
@@ratchetfuture2 Strictly speaking, I'd say 'no' but a simple answer might be yes.
Similar to Odin's transporting, Thor seemed able to move through lightning and through controlling Mjolnir - I'd call it indirect flight at best, and assisted flight is in line with Norse 'canon' such as it is
they're raven sized and shaped
When Atreus turned into a wolf, it reminded me of the story of Cú Chulainn. Celtic myth has been hinted at and maybe it's a nudge to it. Perhaps in an upcoming game.
*edit: autocorrect changed Atreus to Asterius for some reason. 😑
But Santana didn't change into a wolf he grew in size and strength with a bloodlust
who tf is asterius
@@madmaddox3451 lol
@@celticrebel5229 and his skin shifted ans peeled
@@madmaddox3451 isn't Asterius the true name of the Minotaur?
Would have loved to see his review of the entire game storyline rather than just occasional clips.
Yeah there are a couple pieces of lore which address some of the things he mentioned such as the norns defining someone's actions by their predicitibility and fafe and that garm hrothvindnr is garm and doesn't have a soul, hence atreus put fenrir's soul into him. (Fenrir being a seperate being with, originally, no significance)
So disappointed he didn't go into the story and especially Ragnarokr as the event. Would be really interesting to hear his thoughts on how they handled that
This dude just dropped some bird law on us.
6:49 if you see the scene frame by frame you will see that has his arm full stretch, that will be thor calling mjolnir while still is on his belt, lifting him up in the air
4:33 when you get to the part where Atreus goes to Asgard, it is mentioned that the birds are Ravens
There is a danish animated film (probably from the 70s or so) that features the "goat trick"! It's simply called "Valhalla"
1986
@@notwokevikingrules401 😁was too lazy to look it up - but my son watched it 2 weeks ago 🙂
Love that movie
It’s based on the comicseries with the same name (Valhalla) by danish cartoonist Peter Madsen.
If you read "Norse Mythology" by Neil Gaiman you will also encounter this "goat trick".
4:43 They are Ravens, they just look like Crows because honestly crows and ravens look similar.
12:30 She is literally locking the portal back up, ripping his head off. Come on man
again more complaining when you literally know 0 about the language or how its used lmfao. embarrassing
@@Geeler The Norse is still complete nonsense even if the word has some connotation to what it happening. It's like an American tourist using a dictionary to try and order food in France without having the faintest clue of grammar.
4:35 He says Odins birds should be ravens not crows, within the game you hunt down Odin’s Ravens
They say they are in the game but they're too small to be Ravens
@@badfriction4247 they certainly aren't, they are quite large
They sound and look like crows though
Anybody else notice, Odin's hat looks like an old school Santa hat?
That's because the legend of Santa borrowed heavily from legends of Odin :^)
Odin IS Santa. Father Christmas himself. Almost everything about the legend is about Odin.
Mjolnir did bring a goat back to life, Kratos is the GOAT! :D
The kelpie is explained by mamir saying "thats a rare sight, he's far from home
It's funny seeing everyone in the comments get annoyed about the accuracy of a game series about a demigod who single handedly destroyed the entire Greek pantheon.
Aphortite is still alive. And possibly had Kratos' kid too.
@@garyhall2770 most of the gods are alive. he didn't even kill all the olympians. Artemis, Apollo, Dionysus, Hestia, Demeter all surived let alone the hundreds of minor deities. it'd be funny if it wasn't so frustrating that people keep using the 'killed an entire pantheon' thing in arguments.
@@TGPDrunknHick the whole "killing an entire pantheon" thing is mostly just an exaggeration, plus, Kratos killed the main Gods in Greek Mythology (Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, etc.) and wrecked the entirety of Olympus, which probably caused the deaths of the others Greek Gods as well indirectly.
Ey pretty thrifty editing when he said that mjolnir brings goats back to life and then cutting it with kratos being shocked back to life. You can put 2 and 2 together and basically get the metaphor.
It brought the GOAT himself back to life
Well edited by IGN
It was soooo cool when he said the hammer can bring goats back to life and then it shows Thor bringing Kratos back to life. Cuz he’s the goooooaaaat !!!
Thor having the power lifter physique actually makes a bit of sense, considering how absurdly heavy mjolnir is.
He literally has a magical weight lifting belt which more than doubles his great strength (Megingjörð) and magical weight lifting gloves (Járngreipr)
Yeah but it contradicts What Kratos said about the strength not coming from his body and smaller characters have lifted Mjolnir with ease which means they most likely went with an inheritance approach because Odin and Thrud lifted it easy without such equipment.
@@stevenbishop1782 well nobody else tried to lift it. Kratos tried to catch it in full speed (not lift it)
@@trillsam7726thors daughter did it with ease
@@Noone-wp6vj yup but she didn’t do it when Odin threw it at her tho…
Do you not remember Odin hurling mjolnir in ragnarok
On the point of language, when using one of his runic bow attacks Atreus shouts "Uppnhopa!" (or something similar to that) which sounds very similar to the Swedish expression "upp och hoppa" which is something you say to people who have overslept and should get out of bed. (It literally translates into "up and jump" but is used as a more of a "go and get them" or "get out of bed, you lazy bum" kind of thing.)
It just sounds a little bit weird and out of place when used in that context that he's shouting at his arrows to get out of bed.
His first point about mjolnir, i've seen it once in the movie called vallhalla legend of thor, it was kinda a bad movie but it brings some knowledge to me.
yeah its a bad movie, but it has some great concepts that are very faithful to the original myth
Freya saying 'opinbera' which apparently means 'to make public' sounds very much like 'openbaar' which means 'public' in Dutch... interesting :)
I'm pretty sure it is "Åpenbar/Åpenbarelse" which means Reveal/Revalation in modern day Norwegian.
The word for public in Norwegian would be "offentlig".
@@jarls5890 men på norsk kan du jo si "åpenbar" som betyr lik "open" med betydningen av "transparent" så kan den nok brukes "til å gjøre offentlig". Tror det ikke er galt å vurdere.
opinbera is close to åpenbære in norwegian meaning reveal so im guessing thats what they meant by it. a direct translation is open-bare so the use here isnt to bad considdering she revealed the hidden roots
"They probably do not know what lions are."
Fylgja: Am I a joke to you ?
wait, the use of 'opinbera' makes a lot of sense in this context. Freya is 'making public' the hidden location of her ability to be human in the other realms. it is literally making something invisible visible.
It sould be noted what Niddhogg was eating the Roots of the World Tree to damage it, it did not protect it.
And Garm was the one who killed Tyr so thats interesting considering he became Fenrir, and Odin became Tyr.
Oh and Tyrs Weapon of Choice was apparently a Sword not a Spear.
Tyrs weapon may be interesting because by name you've probably realised Tyr was Odin all along. Odin famed for his spear. might have been foreshadowing. there was quite a lot of it.
The walls of Asgard were, at least in this game series, built by Hrimthur Thamursson, a Jötunn. Given that the Jötnar have a close association with mountains, the devs probably figured he’d make the walls like those in his homeland.
"Here's a toothpick with Muffins spirit in it".
That got me 😂
“Here’s a toothpick with Muffins in it” 😭😭😭
On the thing about Thor flying: he actually doesn't fly at all, but you can see that whenever he launches himself that Mjolnir starts to glow. That implies that he uses Mjolnir on his hip to propel himself upward.
Just so you know, for most of the sound effects used for ravens in film, they also use crow caws. They have a stronger and more impactful sound profile for the human ear.
5:38 - 5:41
Thank you so much for pointing that out!
For anyone interested, Jackson Crawford said something wrong at 11:03. Norns are said weaving in some poems, they are deciding the destiny that is described a lot with threads. Also, every life seems to be related to a thread, and the Valkyries (that are in fact really related to norns) are weaving the dead threads before choosing the dead men to bring back to Valhöll or Folkvangr. So I don't know why he is saying that ? For a specialist this seems to be quite a mistake
THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS GUY FOR THE LANGUAGE!! HE IS AWESOME👏🏽👏🏽
thor actually did bring the GOAT back to life in the game
Let me just say, this version of Thor is so much more intimidating than the MCU version will ever be
It does raise the question of how an adaptation that's slavishly faithful to each and every known detail about the mythology would look like. Really fascinating stuff.
One thing I love about mythology in fiction like this, things are left very open ended, or not even discussed at all in a lot of mythology, which opens the door for series like God of War and others to take creative liberties in certain areas to tell a more compelling story, while keeping the overall "message" of the mythology and its characters at least semi accurate.
It’s just videos like this that make me wish they could get the expert in with the devs so they could have a discussion
They do usually
Crawford (guy in the vid and my former professor) was consulted for work on AC Valhalla.
The issue though is that for GoW they aren't trying to be "beat for beat" an accurate representation of the Norse-Celt-Pict-etc mythos, they are just using it as a background for telling their story. Versus something like Valhalla that has actual historical clashes between Anglo/Saxon and Norse raiders, so in that case they sorta HAVE to have consultants on the history of the cultures at war.
Jackson also did work on AC Valhalla for the runes in the game, his channel is a wealth of knowledge on the subjects and his translations are very linguistically friendly for non-academics.
7:17 there's your answer folks
Proof the game is GOTY and Kratos is the GOAT? Yes 👍
@@Captain_Titus3867 👍
@@Captain_Titus3867 lol. Goty in a year without elden ring maybe
The whole idea of the involuntary shape shifting in the first scene you analyzed was made to portray him discovering a power that is completely new and unknown to him..throughout the game he gains the ability to control it after going through some training with Angrboda. He is eventually able to shape shift on command into either a wolf or a bear depending on where you’re at in the story
What Freya said kinda makes sense as a mistake of language. In swedish ”riva” could translate to scratch in some context but most common would be tear, as in tear something apart. Just happens they call these portals ”tears” so that would explain the confusion.
If he took a look at this linguistic stuff through icelandic, it would make more sense than trying to translate them directly from (fictional) old norse to english
Ja var einmitt að fara að minnast a það. Hann talar alltaf um eitthvað “old norse” en þetta er bara nutima islenska😂😂😂
Really? Do you even know who this guy is?
@@Thiago6656 well you sound like you know him very well.
@@Thiago6656 He's Batman.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 maybe. Never seen them both together at the same time, that's suspicious
0:03 it did, it revived Kratos
Kratos isn’t a goat.
i think its less him flying and more he throws the hammer and then rather then him calling IT back he goes to it like a teleport.
yes we see him "flying" in the snake fight at the end, but he could just be tping and then when it hits the snake he jumps off of the snake and throws it again and tps to it, like a boomerang of sorts, its less him flying and more him jumping off of the hammers momentum.
because in the intro fight with thor he kind just shows up in a bolt of lightning, he never really takes off and even at the end of the fight we see him grasping the hammer as it takes off.
and i mean thor isn't really the only one in gow who can use the hammer, we see odin use it too so its possible odin called it and thor hitched a ride.
edit of course i could be wrong, as im mostly going off of memory and its been a year for me now and im old, but i do not ever remember him flying most tping and falling alot.
Mimir, in-game, is Celtic. Both Kratos and Freya had no Idea what the Kelpie was, until Mimir told them. He also says you don't really see them in these parts, meaning Midgard. Tells them kids are kept away from Lochs, back home, by stories of Kelpies drowning them. The part about Runes syntax, remember they are not for Linguists who might not be huge gamers... They are for gamers who might not know syntax of old Norse. Little easter eggs for them to translate. Huginn and Muninn make croaks when sitting, plus they are shaped like ravens compared to crows. Slight curved beak, curved wings, and wedged tails.
Hmm, where are the "uh no they are crows" guys at. Guess they can only argue with people who don't actually know anything and just repeating what the guy in the video said.
Dr. Crawford, what do you think of GOW Ragnarok’s portrayal of Thrúd? I’m very curious of that character.
Thrud is not an active character in the mythology. The only story involving her by name is when she wants to marry a dwarf and her father, Thor isn't too happy about that nonsense, and keeps talking with the guy throughout the night, asking him questions upon questions, until the sun comes up and the dwarf turns to stone. Problem solved.
There is no description of Thrud, and the way she looks in the game my bet is on some self-insert from the company that made the game. She does not come after Sif at all.
ive been waiting his reaction video 😂
Hey, I’m a linguist and a gamer and I’m so happy seeing Jackson here!
12.07: Opinbera kinda sounds like "åbenbare/åpenbare" in Danish/Norwegian (Bokmål), which means to make evident or to make smth appear, or like "åbenbaring/åpenbaring" which means revelation or epiphany.
Respect to Dr Crawford. Best in the field of Norse mythology.
What about when Thor attacked the Giant he was in a duel with from above after the giant was tricked to think Thor was tunneling underground and put his shield under him. The one were Thor smashed the Giant head but the Giant knocked door out with that rock he threw and landed on top of the Thor. That story at very least suggests Thor can jump extremely high if not fly.
7:30 Thor did use the Hammer to bring Tony Stark back from a heart attackish situation in Endgame.
Only to fix the arc reactor in his chest. But not revive someone who was either unconscious, or dead.
yeah the whole point of the newer GOWs is Kratos arriving from Greece changed things, so somewhere along the line of predestined fate this guy showed up and changed how things were supposed to go and thus coming to Norse he ALSO interfered by marrying the person who gave birth to Loki instead of Odin (and earlier than Loki was born) and thus changed who Loki is fundamentally and changed the entirety of the history.
Don’t think Odin is Loki’s father in myths
@@juliendimattia8871 they're not, no, they're actually blood-brothers
6:14 mjölnir is similiar to the swedish word for the sound of thunder from a distance, which is muller, often pronounced as möller.
7:16 There is a scene in the animated film Valhalla from 1986, where Thor uses Mjölnir, to resurrect goats
please do another video explaining what the 9 realms were described as vs what they are in game
Jackson might have a video about that on his channel actually, just without any comparison to the realms as depicted in the games.
Dude got a PhD in ancient human explanations for goat resurrection
Odins birds are in fact ravens in game, not sure where he got the fact that they’re crows from 4:33
probably because he thought it looks small. when in fact that raven was sitting in front of thor who we all know is fckn massive when comparing to kratos who was supposedly 193cm himself. if you play the game and see the part where atreus was standing near the raven, you can clearly see how massive it actually is. or maybe because of its caws? but thats kinda dumb because you just gotta use crows caws in media because its louder and more intense. this is why they should've given him more context rather than just clips like this, it created misunderstanding more than anything.
0:56 Hrolfr Kraki is actually a secret boss fight in this game, as a malevolent spirit who is horrendously difficult
just a little note on the moment when odin turns to look at heimdall and misses him, he actually does this in order to manipulate atreus/loki, odin spends almost the entirety of the game manipulating characters and this moment is one of the first times he gets to properly convince loki of his personability and how he is really just an old man, even though he knew exactly where heimdall was which is why heimdall looked somewhat confused as to odin's behavior
One point for context with the "Laesa rifa"/Nidhogg part....that was a cutscene after the player (Kratos) defeated the Nidhogg... it was trying escape through a portal/rift between realms that Freya closed around its neck, severing its head in the process... so very loosely interpreted she "locked" the portal, severing (i.e. "ripping") its head from its body.