I figured out the issue with the web payment. The website error said it couldn't generate the payment request, but the issue was the email address I used. Apparently, their payment system didn't like my email alias (e.g. name+futokeyboard@email.com). Possibly it's just something where it doesn't allow non-alphanumeric characters or something, but doesn't generate an error on the email input field... it just breaks when they try to generate the payment. Using a non-aliased email did work on their website, but the in-app system still doesn't work. Further, when I got the activation email, the button to activate the app didn't work. I checked in the app, but didn't see anywhere to put the key in... you click the "I already paid" button a couple of times and then it just says thanks for using the paid version. At any rate, I was finally able to give them my $5. :-D
@@N00byEdge I hope you can fix it in mobile app so I can pay with all the google play credit I have! PS: PLEASE add a keyboard width option for phones with wider screens like folding phones? It would be great if the keys went all the way to the screen edges
My summary after reading through the comments here: the biggest issue for a lot of people seems to be multilanguage support. Several have felt the swipe input is quite inaccurate. And multiple people missed the height/offset adjustment that's under all the themes; maybe that could be broken out into "layout" or something, just so it's more obvious. My opinion hasn't changed in the days I've been using it; it's great. I'd only add an option to auto-space after punctuation. Thank you!
I met very few open source keyboards with Chinese(with proper implementation - none), can it be implemented here, please? Also, could you add button (instead of emoji button) to fast switch languages? Awesome and nice to use keyboard, thanks Louis, finally found something that is comparable to gboard. With features mentioned above this keyboard would be the best choice ever.
I accidentally pressed an unknown key combination and "futo keyboard" generated the entire Akashic records. Sadly my PC only had about five terabytes of disk space but I got what I could.
Did you mistype one of the letters as "a"? Me too... haha... I mistyped it as "Auto keyboard", and what I got were basically autoclickers but for kb keys. Pretty cool!
i downloaded it yesterday and it's surprising how good it is right away, I think it only "lacks" the ability to move the cursor by long-pressing of the spacebar but they also got the edit mode so it's not a big deal. I can't wait for the custom themes to be available
@@anderlopez6699 you're right!!! thank you so much. I was used to doing a long press and then moving but this is way quicker I never tried to just start moving, well it officially has everything I could ask for, except for shortcuts but that's even less important
I don't even know why the algorithm recommended your video to me but this is exactly what I was looking for in the past. I just stopped searching for keyboard alternatives and settled for Swift Key a long time ago. I will now immediately try FUTO and am excited about the possibility of a always offline keyboard. Well made video, good info. Thanks!
Swipe typing entirely depends on you tapping the correct word when it guesses incorrectly to learn. After you do that for a bit, it's pretty much spot on every time.
I've been pretty annoyed with the swipe typing so far. It messes up short words often and gives random acronyms instead. Google's swipe keyboard is so much better.
I'm on graphene os and I've just lived without voice input to preserve my privacy. This has offline voice input so I'm back in business! Thanks for promoting this!
This is the AOSP keyboard fork that I was waiting for: fully offline, with support of Material You and pretty basic for the essential needs. Actually, I'm using the LineageOS default keyboard that uses the Material You theme and I expect that FUTO keyboard get the recognition that deserves.
The fact than you can add local offline AI models oprimized for mobile just by importing file is amazing. Installed. I was swiftkey user until microsoft forced copilot. Same about edge on mobile.
What was the difference between Swiftkey and Gboard? Also yeah it can really be that simple. Shows just how much we are getting fucked by corporations.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566SwiftKey uses a learned heat map matching your intended/autocorrected words to map your actual inputs with your intended inputs. Maybe your bumper case is stopping you from reaching Q and P super consistently or your finger wanders a bit too far to the right so you hit D instead of S. Over time, Q and P will grow in size until the far edges of W and O are actually Q and P, and the left side of D will register as an S. It fixes awkward grips, cases, or small/large screens' effect on your typing. Gboard just has big time spyware informing autocorrect as to your intended next word.
well this is what I miss from swiftkey, it seems that I will stick with it for a little longer but as soon as the app is more mature and developed i will try again.
The settings UI is a bit unpolished but so far this is amazing work and way better than Swiftkey. You even get a local ML model which handles suggestions and everything feels smooth and advanced. It's great.
@@turolretar Not a joke, and you answered your own question. A lot of keyboards such as Gboard and Swiftkey collect data such what you type, how much you type, voice to text information, autocorrect predictions based on what you regularly type. Google for example does not divulge what it's used for (Though it's likely used to train AI). Even though I'm not doing anything illegal, I'd rather not have what I type sent to some server where they can do whatever they want with it.
This is why I loved Android !! I'm trying the keyboard while watching this vid. One thing I instantly loved is that you can pin specific actions on top. In gboard, "paste from keyboard" is not always there.
I gotta say the "SwiftKey is dead" drew my attention, I just realized SwiftKey also has the "drag from delete key" function, but apparently Futo's works better.
Thanks for the review. It seems to have everything I need. Installed, will try and pay immediately should I decide to keep it, which seems likely. All the power to Louis!
After the video I saw who the keyboard was made by. Rossman has been slowly earning my trust the last few years, so I installed it and I'm trying it right now. If I still like it by the end of the week, I'm gonna buy it.
I was searching for a privacy oriented keyboard a while back and was upset i couldn't find a decent one, I'm so glad your video popped up in my recommended feed. I just installed it and was surprised by how simple yet functional it already is, it's great! The only thing I'm missing from Gboard is the built-in translator.
Downloaded it as soon as it was announced. Currently replying using it. I was also a user of swift. One time it was soooo good at predicting texts that I used to type just a few words and write the whole sentences but after few updates it deteriorated significantly and i learned it was recording everything I was typing (FOREVER!) which led me to an an open source option.
I tried many FOSS keyboards and this is by far the BEST. I never felt comfortable using voice for keyboard until this one. great work and I absolutely recommend it to everybody.
Thanks for the recommendation! Typing to you on my freshly installed FUTO keyboard. It's a relief knowing that one more hook is pulled out of my data.Thank you and thanks FUTO!
Thanks a lot for the demo! I'm a long-time SwiftKey user who is more and more worried about its privacy as well, and this keyboard is an alternative in a long time that feels really great from my first impression! I'll keep using it for the coming days/weeks and see if it holds up. If it does, I'm happy to pay as well.
Currently other languages are kinda broken, symbols not working properly, app crashing, so I'll stick to Swiftkey and Gboard for the time being, but I'm very interested, as it works perfectly in English
Is Louis working on an privacy-oriented Android spin? I'd be down for that! The dude definitely has earned my (out) respect and trust over these many years.
Dude is not a developer. He's not even a good dude. He's a clock that tells the time right twice a day and both times it's about right to repair. The rest of his opinions are awful and he tries to shove them down your throat with the right to repair stuff.
@IceBlueLugia In essence his opinions boil down to pretending that only people of his demographics have problems. He does not believe systemic racism exists (apart from agaisnt white/Asian men.... which just makes no sense), he doesn't believe tax dollars should go to helping anyone but himself, he doesn't believe in any social services at all, for reasons that I think from his other views seem pretty obvious. He's the epitome of "I've got mine"
@@BeefIngot That's gonna be a hard disagree with you, bud. I have followed Louis off and on for years now, and he's been proven right on just about everything. Don't be salty that he's complaining *_and_* getting shit done, as opposed to most of the other content creators, who just complain politely for morality points but then never actually do anything of substance about the issues. It's interesting how how the ones who actually accomplish things are the ones who get the most attacks, slander, and libel, as if they're the enemy. It's a societal mental illness! It has to be!
THanks a lot, had few happy months with HeliBoard and this comes at the right moment, wish I could add voice for Spanish, this might be my new main keyboard so I´ll give it a try
thank you for making this video SPECIFICALLY for me lmfao i'm exactly in same situation as you, used swiftkey from early days and its been sad to see it go down in grasps of microsoft i tried out FUTO and just the fact that you can manually maintain your models and dictionaries was already a hard hands down sell for me, lets see how it fares with time!
Omg I was using one called OpenBoard for years for this same reason but the maintainer abandoned it and the new one is struggling to handle the issues last I looked. So, I'm definitely trying this one!
I stuck with OpenBoard because it was the only keyboard that met my specific needs. FUTO not only checks all those other boxes for me, but gets me off of Google voice transcription and I can have emojis again! Loving it so far, even in its alpha state!
thank you for shouting this out - it is definitely interesting and some of the features are good, unfortunately the swiping input just isn't good enough yet to switch. but when that does and when custom themes are available, I'm for sure switching
1:40 and then there are psychos like me who use florisboard. it has no: - autocorrect - text predictions - emoji serch - stickers - pretty much nothing fancy, it's like a computer keyboard in that sense what it DOES have however is what keeps me on it and i dont intend to switch to anything else; it's got an insane level of customisation over how it functions: - select all, copy, cut, cursor nudge left/right, paste, clear clipboard, clipboard button shortcuts - lets you change a lot of stuff down to a milisecond or a pixel - heigh offset for when i feel like using gestures instead of 3 button nav bar, that way i keep all the keys at the same height and retain all my muscle memory for typing fast (around 85wpm) - gesture shortcuts that work more precisely than other keyboards; moving the cursor while holding space can jump to characters, whole words, you can change the sensitivity on that (i find gboard to be annoyingly unresponsive), then theres swipe to delete which can delete whole words, letters, characters, whatever, change sensitivity of both of those down to how fast you swipe... (also annoyingly unresponsive on gboard) - i somehow forgot to mention undo and redo buttons in the smart bar how silly of me - ofc theres a backup and restore for settings, else it would be hell to set it up every time lol
1. SwiftKey and FUTO have almost everything there, including personal tuning, except I think only FUTO has undo/redo, and don't think they do full customization for backswipe. 2. You clearly need autocorrect and spellchecker. * I * sense * random lack of capitalisation And not that autocorrect on SwiftKey would help you, but you spelled the wrong it's/its every time
I also use Florisboard it works great besides the rare crashes. The only thing that's missing from Gboard is the emoji search... if FUTO keyboard could do that (which is in their roadmap), then I'm sold
THANK YOU! I've been searching for the perfect keyboard ever since the gboard got weird(randomly stops working for no apparent reason). I am very particular in terms of layout and the other keyboard's rendition of Dvorak has been horrible so far. This one's a breath of fresh air, it's basically gboard without all those loading error, simple enough to use, and has some pretty nifty features to boot. Once again, thank you for showing this keyboard! loving it so far.
Thank you so much, was swift keyboard fan too, but I don’t like co pilot. Just installed and it is so responsive. Love it and will definitely buy it, because it is offline 🙏😎
I'm using this keyboard now, and let me tell you the voice to text although takes a moment to process, is spot on! A huge quality of life change for me. I stopped using voice to text because Google Keyboard was horrible in my opinion. This new keyboard is in its own league. I wish I could actually help with the development of this keyboard, but for the last year, I've been working on a messaging app with the same goal as this. Gonna shake up the game. We own these devices, we need real privacy.
I use Futo absolutely love it. It gets better over time as you use it. Could just be me getting more used to it, but it works great and the speech to text is my favorite feature. My only complaint is sometimes i use swipe when i type with one hand, and the suggestions are more often wrong compared to default android. Every other feature is better though!
Pretty sure the error message would have been different. I think it fails way before it even attempts anything since at the very least the Google play payment popup should show up. That's the place where the offline error should be.
Looks really good. I like all of the customization options. I really like that it all works locally. My favourite keyboard of all-time is the BlackBerry 10 virtual keyboard. I loved the way you could flick up directly from the keyboard. Miss that thing.
❓A little question: For me I really love (and need) the following features from Gboard: (Which of those features are also available in FUTO?) 1. Translate live from a language into another while writing. 2. Cursor control with arrows and select all, copy, paste. 3. Clipboard with a list of all my last copied things (text, pictures, pdf, ...)
Is there an option to have 2 languages at the same time like on gboard? I usually have English and Polish so that I can swipe type anything in both languages or even both at The same time
Unfortunately no. I'm also looking for that feature myself (English - Indonesian in my case). Currently Futo doesn't have that feature, so you have to switch languages manually
awww, that's the worst part about it. wish they'll implement it in the future. it's one of the few things that make me use gboard (with adguard blocking the internet access) more often
@@franciscodomenech1796 but no multi-language as in using both language without having to manually switch. Its a hassle having to switch language manually. I'm using Heliboard rn and while its rough, it do have multi-language support (in my case English and Indonesian)
Very nice! I like hints (like @ symbol above a etc). Took a while to find setting to turn on. It's under Keyboards & Typing > Long press keys & spacebar > Show hints toggle.
I'm so glad this came when it did because I just got a new phone right after this keyboard dropped and Swiftkey wouldn't even work on it whatsoever. I switched not out of preference but out of necessity. And I'm happy for it! This keyboard slaps, though admittedly it is VERY hard to unlearn 8+ years of experience with the same style of keyboard, for as long as I've had a phone with a digital keyboard, but that's a me issue instead of the app's issue. Swiftkey IS dead and Futo is the best option to replace it with.
One of my favourite features with this is the voice typing. It add punctuation! Google voice typing as well as a few others just do run on sentences and wont add punctuation unless you specifically say "comma", "period", "question mark" and things like that.
Main reason I use Swift is because it detects which language I am currently using, and I don't have to change it in the settings, do you think this is possible in Futo??
It seems that FUTO keyboard haves the same handicap than AOSP keyboard and/or GBoard, which is tied to the preset language (in the case of AOSP keyboard and/or GBoard, is usually the default localization of the OS). The main advantage is the avariability of the offline dictionary of words that holds in their one hundred megs. As an AOSP enjoyer, I see as a close alternative to the AOSP keyboard that haves the enhancements for Material You themes for a smoother experience from Android 12 and beyond (LineageOS enabled the Material You theme in the AOSP keyboard).
Yes you can just add a second language and the autosuggestions and autocorrect will switch automatically to the language you're typing in , like gboard
Using it since its announcement. It still needs to improve multilingual support (automatic recognition and switching) and a few small aesthetic tweaks, but overall it's solid.
Samsung Keyboard with good lock additions is the best keyboard out there. Has some awesome features that integrate with the OS like no other. But i will probably get angry comments to this, oh well. But I really like the idea of a fully offline keyboard.
I 110% support what they're doing, and it's about time someone used an ML prediction engine, which should have been the first use case for LLMs. But I wouldn't rep it too hard at this point. I used it yesterday and went straight back to SwiftKey (a keyboard I loathe), for three+ very important UX reasons. ~~Yes, FUTO has big edit controls, but you have to toggle a button at the top and scroll to the end of a top action bar to get to it. TO MOVE THE CURSOR~~ Okay, the placement is still terrible, but apparently touch and slide on spacebar (instead of hold and slide) works for cursor adjustments. Thanks for clarification, person in comments. -relevant to needing to edit: It doesn't really understand when you type two short words together and miss the space bar (which you have to hit a lot more than SwiftKey), so it just results in a mangled, misspelled aglutinated mess. Same thing with a single word with a single stray character at the end. * The swipe backspace just deletes a random amount of characters, making it useless. Long hold to delete last word in SwiftKey is absolutely vital to my typing. * The dictionary still won't suggest the word that I have actually typed (with a single character error), but suggests two others that are less orthographically similar. SwiftKey itself is also terrible about just not having thousands of basic vocab words, and that's the main reason I hate it with a burning passion, despite using it right now.
I switched back and turned up the ML autocorrect bias, which seems to help a lot with typing. But the backswipe is still useless, and the spacebar slide needs an acceleration curve. SwiftKey was definitely too fast to use accurately, but slide doesn't let you change rows with its lower sensitivity, and it's painfully slow, requiring lifting off and re-sliding to get to another word. Okay, it looks like the toggle action bar is changing location of icons according to usage, except that the clipboard is still at the end despite heavy usage. Ther icons are also confusing, with *Paste* and *clipboard* sharing the same icon, and edit being ambiguous. Skeumorphic design, please! Icons are ugly and bad, but understandable for a pre-alpha.
Exact same here, swapped over from SwiftKey and no regrets so far. I always liked the idea of voice input but avoided it because I really don't like the idea of all that data being uploaded to Microsoft / Google / Whoever. Now I don't have to worry about it, can just do it locally on my phone. Hurray!
Couldn't come at a better time. Copilot is a real threat, Simple got sold to an ad farm and Fleksy isn't going anywhere fast. The FUTO keyboard feels real good!
I am typing this comment via voice input from futo keyboard. It seems to work pretty well. I would say better than Google and Microsoft. I am speaking Indian accent English and this keyboard picks up very nicely.
there's a feature missing and that is multilingual typing*autocorrect. I speak english and spanish and with gboard I have word suggestions for both languages at the same time. this is a huge improvement from keyboards that require you to switch between two languages whenever you're typing.
My biggest criticism with it is the option of having the number pad in the symbol menu, which is the best part of SwiftKey. Apart from that is a pretty decent keyboard.
This keyboard is what I have wanted for so so so long. They use the same long-press symbol layout as gboard which has been my favorite for that and the voice typing is amazing! It is faster than google voice typing and just as convenient as in gboard. My only issue is that the haptic feedback doesn't feel quite right, being more of a buzz vs a tapping feeling, but I may just not be getting the settings set up right.
I also swapped from Swiftkey to the futo keyboard. So far it's been good. My only gripe is the autocorrect getting things wrong sometimes and that it feels like a keyboard from the early 2010's with things, ie no I didn't mean "duck". I never use voice to text. Simply because I don't want people to know what I'm saying, including my family. They don't need to hear me shitposting from across the room. There is also some weird bugs that pop up from time to time such as selecting words from the suggestion bar either adding two spaces or no spaces. But I mean, it's an alpha. I knew things were going to be funky when I swapped to it. Still a solid keyboard and I look forward to updates.
Apparently no Japanese language support. And no multiple languages with Latin alphabet in one keyboard (instead of adding multiple keyboards). Very unfortunate, but it seems I have to keep using SwiftKey until these things are added.
I've been using it for about a month now and the only issue I've encountered is swiping seems to not rank word results by probability. This is most visible in short words like "as" being recognized as "AAA" or "and" being recognized as "SBD."
Yeah, it's not quite as good as Copilot's voice input key (which can't be used for normal typing because MS are a barrel of macaques), but it's surprisingly adept. I'm rocking the same combo myself, as terrible as SwiftKey is.
@@SolarScion Interestingly, if ya hold down the comma and choose said dictation method we're talking about, works quite nicely! You may need to turn off Google Voice Input first...
Switched a week ago. I'd previously used the Google keyboard (Gboard) for the past 3 years when I upgraded my phone. So far, so good! I don't have many complaints, and those are minimal. The swiping (which I use 99% of the time) is a little finicky, having trouble with a lot of words both short and long. I'm hoping that this only gets better with time. Some of the autocorrect suggestions are a little... Odd. Swiping from "s" to "o" suggests "SSSI" and many other 3-4 letter acronyms that I've had to blacklist. Gboard got really good at understanding what I was trying/wanting to say in most cases, and I'm hoping that FUTO gets to a comparable point eventually. I do have the "learning" option enabled, so we'll see. The voice input is actually incredible. I don't have the clearest voice, and I have an Aussie accent as well. Out-of-the-box it's at least 99% accurate, often 100%. This really blew me away the first time I used it, and I'm using it more every day.
I figured out the issue with the web payment. The website error said it couldn't generate the payment request, but the issue was the email address I used. Apparently, their payment system didn't like my email alias (e.g. name+futokeyboard@email.com). Possibly it's just something where it doesn't allow non-alphanumeric characters or something, but doesn't generate an error on the email input field... it just breaks when they try to generate the payment.
Using a non-aliased email did work on their website, but the in-app system still doesn't work. Further, when I got the activation email, the button to activate the app didn't work. I checked in the app, but didn't see anywhere to put the key in... you click the "I already paid" button a couple of times and then it just says thanks for using the paid version.
At any rate, I was finally able to give them my $5. :-D
I had the exact same issue with their payment system when using Grayjay.
Thanks, you brought this bug to light for us, we're working on getting it fixed!
@@N00byEdge I hope you can fix it in mobile app so I can pay with all the google play credit I have! PS: PLEASE add a keyboard width option for phones with wider screens like folding phones? It would be great if the keys went all the way to the screen edges
They even made it difficult to pay them. One of the rare examples that opposes the dark patterns of the internet 😂😂
@@N00byEdgeios please
Thank you for the kind words! All feedback will be taken into consideration... and we'll work out the issues with the payment system!
One request please, the back button, when long pressed could there be an option for that to delete the entire word, not just a character.
My summary after reading through the comments here: the biggest issue for a lot of people seems to be multilanguage support. Several have felt the swipe input is quite inaccurate. And multiple people missed the height/offset adjustment that's under all the themes; maybe that could be broken out into "layout" or something, just so it's more obvious. My opinion hasn't changed in the days I've been using it; it's great. I'd only add an option to auto-space after punctuation. Thank you!
iOS please
Any ios plans?
I met very few open source keyboards with Chinese(with proper implementation - none), can it be implemented here, please?
Also, could you add button (instead of emoji button) to fast switch languages? Awesome and nice to use keyboard, thanks Louis, finally found something that is comparable to gboard. With features mentioned above this keyboard would be the best choice ever.
I wrote a single character wrong in "futo keyboard" and now I have a new research material about human biology to study.
I accidentally pressed an unknown key combination and "futo keyboard" generated the entire Akashic records. Sadly my PC only had about five terabytes of disk space but I got what I could.
Did you mistype one of the letters as "a"?
Me too...
haha...
I mistyped it as
"Auto keyboard", and what I got were basically autoclickers but for kb keys. Pretty cool!
@@lmnkthey did an "a" too, only at another position
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Why don't I get it? Someone please make me get it 🙃
I downloaded the FUTA keyboard and it looks weird.
That's a disgusting comment 🤢
That's the wrong keyboard. Could be very right for at least someone though.
@@Scott_Stone Hahaha that's true; I'd be happy with the FUTA kb hahaha
I didn't know you can make your digital keyboard sticky...
why tf would the Federal Unemployment Tax Act need a keyboard app?
bro you should toss lou's face on the thumbnail and make the big text caption "LET ME PAY YOU" lol
this man thumbs
Doesn’t it allow you to pay for it already?
No, the donate button doesnt work in the latest release :/@@OctagonalSquare
😂
i downloaded it yesterday and it's surprising how good it is right away, I think it only "lacks" the ability to move the cursor by long-pressing of the spacebar but they also got the edit mode so it's not a big deal. I can't wait for the custom themes to be available
But it actually does move the cursor when pressing on the spacebar...
@@anderlopez6699 you're right!!! thank you so much. I was used to doing a long press and then moving but this is way quicker I never tried to just start moving, well it officially has everything I could ask for, except for shortcuts but that's even less important
You cannot adjust the size??? At least i could not find the Option ..
@@XA--pb9ni you can cofigure the height of the keyboard on the "Theme" section, hope that's what you're looking for
Holy shit.. I missed that cause i did not look @ the themes ..thx so much, deinstalling swiftkey right now
I don't even know why the algorithm recommended your video to me but this is exactly what I was looking for in the past. I just stopped searching for keyboard alternatives and settled for Swift Key a long time ago. I will now immediately try FUTO and am excited about the possibility of a always offline keyboard. Well made video, good info. Thanks!
The fact that having an offline keyboard is not the standard is dystopic
Swipe typing entirely depends on you tapping the correct word when it guesses incorrectly to learn. After you do that for a bit, it's pretty much spot on every time.
That's really good info for how it works. Thanks!
I didn't know that! hopefully it will eventually be usable, even if it isn't now
actually it might never be usable since the correct word isn't even in the list more than half the time so far
@@agsbxnskqbwjakqif it's good, swipe typing is better with one hand and/or without looking
I've been pretty annoyed with the swipe typing so far. It messes up short words often and gives random acronyms instead. Google's swipe keyboard is so much better.
I'm on graphene os and I've just lived without voice input to preserve my privacy. This has offline voice input so I'm back in business! Thanks for promoting this!
Just downloaded it. Saw the huge buttons. Immediately uninstalled the Google keyboard I was using till now. Finally. Amazing.
This is the AOSP keyboard fork that I was waiting for: fully offline, with support of Material You and pretty basic for the essential needs.
Actually, I'm using the LineageOS default keyboard that uses the Material You theme and I expect that FUTO keyboard get the recognition that deserves.
How does it compare to Openboard, also an AOSP foss privacy keyboard?
Openboard is old, last release was 2 years ago. Does it is even still developed? @@gn0s1s
@@gn0s1sopenboard is dead, but personally I prefer HeliBoard over Futo
I'm still looking forward to FlorisBoard in the future.
I was using FlorisBoard but they take so long to update and there's so many features missing
Just installed and typing this comment with FUTO now. Working great!
The fact than you can add local offline AI models oprimized for mobile just by importing file is amazing. Installed.
I was swiftkey user until microsoft forced copilot. Same about edge on mobile.
What was the difference between Swiftkey and Gboard? Also yeah it can really be that simple. Shows just how much we are getting fucked by corporations.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 I never used gboard but the toolbox swiftkey provided was great until Copilot invaded the app.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566SwiftKey uses a learned heat map matching your intended/autocorrected words to map your actual inputs with your intended inputs. Maybe your bumper case is stopping you from reaching Q and P super consistently or your finger wanders a bit too far to the right so you hit D instead of S. Over time, Q and P will grow in size until the far edges of W and O are actually Q and P, and the left side of D will register as an S. It fixes awkward grips, cases, or small/large screens' effect on your typing.
Gboard just has big time spyware informing autocorrect as to your intended next word.
well this is what I miss from swiftkey, it seems that I will stick with it for a little longer but as soon as the app is more mature and developed i will try again.
I'm using SwiftKey and loving it
Using the Futo keyboard now and I LOVE it already in the 5 minutes that I've used it for. Thanks for telling me about this awesome thing.
The settings UI is a bit unpolished but so far this is amazing work and way better than Swiftkey. You even get a local ML model which handles suggestions and everything feels smooth and advanced. It's great.
Barely 30 seconds in and I've already got it installed! I was looking for a privacy focused keyboard for ages!
Yea right! Did the same
Is this a joke? How can a keyboard be not private? What do they have like keyloggers in there? It just sounds so bizarre
@@turolretar Not a joke, and you answered your own question. A lot of keyboards such as Gboard and Swiftkey collect data such what you type, how much you type, voice to text information, autocorrect predictions based on what you regularly type. Google for example does not divulge what it's used for (Though it's likely used to train AI). Even though I'm not doing anything illegal, I'd rather not have what I type sent to some server where they can do whatever they want with it.
Agreed! @@elektra81516
@@turolretar quite literally
I bougt it 3 times for all my devices. The voice input works amazingly well. Finally the alternative I was longing for so long 🤩
Bought it? It's free
This is why I loved Android !! I'm trying the keyboard while watching this vid. One thing I instantly loved is that you can pin specific actions on top. In gboard, "paste from keyboard" is not always there.
I gotta say the "SwiftKey is dead" drew my attention, I just realized SwiftKey also has the "drag from delete key" function, but apparently Futo's works better.
It’s always had that afaik, but it only deletes a whole word at a time
I'm enjoying it so far. Very intuitive to use and no issues yet. "Swiping" is the only word it has had trouble with so far for me
Thanks for the review. It seems to have everything I need. Installed, will try and pay immediately should I decide to keep it, which seems likely. All the power to Louis!
After the video I saw who the keyboard was made by. Rossman has been slowly earning my trust the last few years, so I installed it and I'm trying it right now.
If I still like it by the end of the week, I'm gonna buy it.
I was searching for a privacy oriented keyboard a while back and was upset i couldn't find a decent one, I'm so glad your video popped up in my recommended feed. I just installed it and was surprised by how simple yet functional it already is, it's great! The only thing I'm missing from Gboard is the built-in translator.
Downloaded it as soon as it was announced. Currently replying using it. I was also a user of swift. One time it was soooo good at predicting texts that I used to type just a few words and write the whole sentences but after few updates it deteriorated significantly and i learned it was recording everything I was typing (FOREVER!) which led me to an an open source option.
Just downloaded. We'll see if it ends up replacing Swift Key long-term. Thanks for making a video about it!
I tried many FOSS keyboards and this is by far the BEST.
I never felt comfortable using voice for keyboard until this one.
great work and I absolutely recommend it to everybody.
Thanks for the recommendation! Typing to you on my freshly installed FUTO keyboard.
It's a relief knowing that one more hook is pulled out of my data.Thank you and thanks FUTO!
OMG I've been looking for SwiftKey replacement for a while now. Will try this one.
Thanks a lot for the demo! I'm a long-time SwiftKey user who is more and more worried about its privacy as well, and this keyboard is an alternative in a long time that feels really great from my first impression! I'll keep using it for the coming days/weeks and see if it holds up. If it does, I'm happy to pay as well.
Currently other languages are kinda broken, symbols not working properly, app crashing, so I'll stick to Swiftkey and Gboard for the time being, but I'm very interested, as it works perfectly in English
Use Openboard in the mean time.
Sweet. Swiftkey yeeted and Futo installed, setup and running in less time than watching your video 😊
Yes it is. Is so amazing that I need this for my Desktop PC (for any Linux Distro) as a virtual keyboard and to use the voice input.
FUTO voice input is amazing. Glad to see there is a keyboard now also.
Is Louis working on an privacy-oriented Android spin? I'd be down for that! The dude definitely has earned my (out) respect and trust over these many years.
Dude is not a developer. He's not even a good dude. He's a clock that tells the time right twice a day and both times it's about right to repair.
The rest of his opinions are awful and he tries to shove them down your throat with the right to repair stuff.
@@BeefIngotWhat opinions are awful?
@IceBlueLugia In essence his opinions boil down to pretending that only people of his demographics have problems.
He does not believe systemic racism exists (apart from agaisnt white/Asian men.... which just makes no sense), he doesn't believe tax dollars should go to helping anyone but himself, he doesn't believe in any social services at all, for reasons that I think from his other views seem pretty obvious.
He's the epitome of "I've got mine"
@@IceBlueLugia don't expect to get a citation out of slanderous lazy people!
@@BeefIngot That's gonna be a hard disagree with you, bud. I have followed Louis off and on for years now, and he's been proven right on just about everything. Don't be salty that he's complaining *_and_* getting shit done, as opposed to most of the other content creators, who just complain politely for morality points but then never actually do anything of substance about the issues.
It's interesting how how the ones who actually accomplish things are the ones who get the most attacks, slander, and libel, as if they're the enemy. It's a societal mental illness! It has to be!
THanks a lot, had few happy months with HeliBoard and this comes at the right moment, wish I could add voice for Spanish, this might be my new main keyboard so I´ll give it a try
Currently installed, going to test it out. Thanks for the recommendation!
thank you for making this video SPECIFICALLY for me lmfao
i'm exactly in same situation as you, used swiftkey from early days and its been sad to see it go down in grasps of microsoft
i tried out FUTO and just the fact that you can manually maintain your models and dictionaries was already a hard hands down sell for me, lets see how it fares with time!
Omg I was using one called OpenBoard for years for this same reason but the maintainer abandoned it and the new one is struggling to handle the issues last I looked. So, I'm definitely trying this one!
I stuck with OpenBoard because it was the only keyboard that met my specific needs. FUTO not only checks all those other boxes for me, but gets me off of Google voice transcription and I can have emojis again! Loving it so far, even in its alpha state!
I'm so happy that people are bringing this to light, it is an awesome keyboard app
Thank you for bringing more attention to this awesome endeavor.
thank you for shouting this out - it is definitely interesting and some of the features are good, unfortunately the swiping input just isn't good enough yet to switch. but when that does and when custom themes are available, I'm for sure switching
Amazing find, thank you for finding this, thank the algorithm for bringing you to my feed, new subscriber for you!
1:40 and then there are psychos like me who use florisboard. it has no:
- autocorrect
- text predictions
- emoji serch
- stickers
- pretty much nothing fancy, it's like a computer keyboard in that sense
what it DOES have however is what keeps me on it and i dont intend to switch to anything else; it's got an insane level of customisation over how it functions:
- select all, copy, cut, cursor nudge left/right, paste, clear clipboard, clipboard button shortcuts
- lets you change a lot of stuff down to a milisecond or a pixel
- heigh offset for when i feel like using gestures instead of 3 button nav bar, that way i keep all the keys at the same height and retain all my muscle memory for typing fast (around 85wpm)
- gesture shortcuts that work more precisely than other keyboards; moving the cursor while holding space can jump to characters, whole words, you can change the sensitivity on that (i find gboard to be annoyingly unresponsive), then theres swipe to delete which can delete whole words, letters, characters, whatever, change sensitivity of both of those down to how fast you swipe... (also annoyingly unresponsive on gboard)
- i somehow forgot to mention undo and redo buttons in the smart bar how silly of me
- ofc theres a backup and restore for settings, else it would be hell to set it up every time lol
I'm using Swifkey myself, though have FUTO as my replacment for voice dictation. Love that combo!
i would use it but you missed me at "no spellcheck"
Lmao same. I've gotten so much accustomed to the absence of the most basic of features that I now don't need them. Florisboard and FUTO Keyboard FWT
1. SwiftKey and FUTO have almost everything there, including personal tuning, except I think only FUTO has undo/redo, and don't think they do full customization for backswipe.
2. You clearly need autocorrect and spellchecker.
* I
* sense
* random lack of capitalisation
And not that autocorrect on SwiftKey would help you, but you spelled the wrong it's/its every time
I also use Florisboard it works great besides the rare crashes. The only thing that's missing from Gboard is the emoji search... if FUTO keyboard could do that (which is in their roadmap), then I'm sold
Just instealled it and used it. Instantly love it.
THANK YOU! I've been searching for the perfect keyboard ever since the gboard got weird(randomly stops working for no apparent reason). I am very particular in terms of layout and the other keyboard's rendition of Dvorak has been horrible so far. This one's a breath of fresh air, it's basically gboard without all those loading error, simple enough to use, and has some pretty nifty features to boot. Once again, thank you for showing this keyboard! loving it so far.
Thank you so much, was swift keyboard fan too, but I don’t like co pilot. Just installed and it is so responsive. Love it and will definitely buy it, because it is offline 🙏😎
I'm using this keyboard now, and let me tell you the voice to text although takes a moment to process, is spot on! A huge quality of life change for me. I stopped using voice to text because Google Keyboard was horrible in my opinion. This new keyboard is in its own league. I wish I could actually help with the development of this keyboard, but for the last year, I've been working on a messaging app with the same goal as this. Gonna shake up the game. We own these devices, we need real privacy.
Cool! Will try it out. Watching from the Philippines.
My swiftkey works without the internet too.
Also of all the privacy concerns we have with phones and apps, why is the keyboard a point of contention?
I use Futo absolutely love it. It gets better over time as you use it. Could just be me getting more used to it, but it works great and the speech to text is my favorite feature. My only complaint is sometimes i use swipe when i type with one hand, and the suggestions are more often wrong compared to default android. Every other feature is better though!
Regarding the payment not working for you: Aren't you offline?
Pretty sure the error message would have been different. I think it fails way before it even attempts anything since at the very least the Google play payment popup should show up. That's the place where the offline error should be.
I was offline for the demo in this video, but I had already tested everything prior to that. It doesn't work online or offline... same error message.
@@TechDregs just checked the payment page, it now works.
Really hope they add japanese and korean soon,would love to switch to it
Looks really good. I like all of the customization options. I really like that it all works locally. My favourite keyboard of all-time is the BlackBerry 10 virtual keyboard. I loved the way you could flick up directly from the keyboard. Miss that thing.
❓A little question:
For me I really love (and need) the following features from Gboard:
(Which of those features are also available in FUTO?)
1. Translate live from a language into another while writing.
2. Cursor control with arrows and select all, copy, paste.
3. Clipboard with a list of all my last copied things (text, pictures, pdf, ...)
it has those last things
im not too sure what you mean by the first
I love it, one thing to improve is noise supression in noisy environments like a car, that way it doesn't hang after you have finished speaking.
Great video, I have been a SwiftKey user and hadn't changed because I liked the layout, I will be trying this one out to see how it goes for me!
Great video, thank you.
Is there an option to have 2 languages at the same time like on gboard? I usually have English and Polish so that I can swipe type anything in both languages or even both at The same time
Unfortunately no. I'm also looking for that feature myself (English - Indonesian in my case). Currently Futo doesn't have that feature, so you have to switch languages manually
Bummer. I need Polish and English too. Long forgotten Spanish to be needing it, even though it's one of the major languages of the world.
awww, that's the worst part about it. wish they'll implement it in the future. it's one of the few things that make me use gboard (with adguard blocking the internet access) more often
As of today, you can choose multiple languages. I currently have English and Spanish
@@franciscodomenech1796 but no multi-language as in using both language without having to manually switch. Its a hassle having to switch language manually. I'm using Heliboard rn and while its rough, it do have multi-language support (in my case English and Indonesian)
i was watching this video waiting for the BUUUT and is about being unable to pay for it??
that's so refreshing to hear honestly
Very nice! I like hints (like @ symbol above a etc). Took a while to find setting to turn on. It's under Keyboards & Typing > Long press keys & spacebar > Show hints toggle.
Swiftkeyer for like 10 years here. I tried futo's, but press-and-hold specials and a better Dvorak layout keep me with Swiftkey for now.
I'm so glad this came when it did because I just got a new phone right after this keyboard dropped and Swiftkey wouldn't even work on it whatsoever. I switched not out of preference but out of necessity. And I'm happy for it! This keyboard slaps, though admittedly it is VERY hard to unlearn 8+ years of experience with the same style of keyboard, for as long as I've had a phone with a digital keyboard, but that's a me issue instead of the app's issue. Swiftkey IS dead and Futo is the best option to replace it with.
One of my favourite features with this is the voice typing. It add punctuation! Google voice typing as well as a few others just do run on sentences and wont add punctuation unless you specifically say "comma", "period", "question mark" and things like that.
honestly the backspace swiping is pretty neat, more keyboards should have it
Main reason I use Swift is because it detects which language I am currently using, and I don't have to change it in the settings, do you think this is possible in Futo??
It seems that FUTO keyboard haves the same handicap than AOSP keyboard and/or GBoard, which is tied to the preset language (in the case of AOSP keyboard and/or GBoard, is usually the default localization of the OS). The main advantage is the avariability of the offline dictionary of words that holds in their one hundred megs.
As an AOSP enjoyer, I see as a close alternative to the AOSP keyboard that haves the enhancements for Material You themes for a smoother experience from Android 12 and beyond (LineageOS enabled the Material You theme in the AOSP keyboard).
They have multilingual input models available! Pretty limited support for the time being but they're working on expanding it.
Yes you can just add a second language and the autosuggestions and autocorrect will switch automatically to the language you're typing in , like gboard
I tried typing a phrase in Spanish and it started giving me suggestions in Spanish
@@voinea12wait really? It doesn't work in my case (English and Indonesian), so I have to switch language manually.
Using it since its announcement. It still needs to improve multilingual support (automatic recognition and switching) and a few small aesthetic tweaks, but overall it's solid.
Looks great but not a great multilingual option as far as I could tell. I'll have to keep my eye on it and hopefully see it grow!
What do you use?
@@LeftyPencil Unfortunately I'm stuck on gboard. It lets me use qwerty while also having quick access to accents on character holds.
So far so good. Thanks for this!
Just bought this. It's incredible
Much nicer than the stock keyboard on my fairphone. It's my first Futo product but it absolutely won't be the last
Samsung Keyboard with good lock additions is the best keyboard out there. Has some awesome features that integrate with the OS like no other. But i will probably get angry comments to this, oh well. But I really like the idea of a fully offline keyboard.
IPhones have better cameras than Samsung phones 😠! You're welcomed ☺️.
Excited to try it out. Listened to Louis talking about it too.
I 110% support what they're doing, and it's about time someone used an ML prediction engine, which should have been the first use case for LLMs. But I wouldn't rep it too hard at this point. I used it yesterday and went straight back to SwiftKey (a keyboard I loathe), for three+ very important UX reasons.
~~Yes, FUTO has big edit controls, but you have to toggle a button at the top and scroll to the end of a top action bar to get to it. TO MOVE THE CURSOR~~
Okay, the placement is still terrible, but apparently touch and slide on spacebar (instead of hold and slide) works for cursor adjustments. Thanks for clarification, person in comments.
-relevant to needing to edit: It doesn't really understand when you type two short words together and miss the space bar (which you have to hit a lot more than SwiftKey), so it just results in a mangled, misspelled aglutinated mess. Same thing with a single word with a single stray character at the end.
* The swipe backspace just deletes a random amount of characters, making it useless. Long hold to delete last word in SwiftKey is absolutely vital to my typing.
* The dictionary still won't suggest the word that I have actually typed (with a single character error), but suggests two others that are less orthographically similar. SwiftKey itself is also terrible about just not having thousands of basic vocab words, and that's the main reason I hate it with a burning passion, despite using it right now.
I switched back and turned up the ML autocorrect bias, which seems to help a lot with typing. But the backswipe is still useless, and the spacebar slide needs an acceleration curve. SwiftKey was definitely too fast to use accurately, but slide doesn't let you change rows with its lower sensitivity, and it's painfully slow, requiring lifting off and re-sliding to get to another word.
Okay, it looks like the toggle action bar is changing location of icons according to usage, except that the clipboard is still at the end despite heavy usage. Ther icons are also confusing, with *Paste* and *clipboard* sharing the same icon, and edit being ambiguous. Skeumorphic design, please! Icons are ugly and bad, but understandable for a pre-alpha.
it's insane to me and criminal that gboard
still has the best swipe type in the business
Exact same here, swapped over from SwiftKey and no regrets so far. I always liked the idea of voice input but avoided it because I really don't like the idea of all that data being uploaded to Microsoft / Google / Whoever. Now I don't have to worry about it, can just do it locally on my phone. Hurray!
Tried it. Swipe gestures didn't work for crap. Went back to Unexpected Keyboard (no swipe, but actually works).
this deserves more attention ❤
Wow! This keyboard looks absolutely incredible. I love it. ❤
Love the idea. Needs Japanese for me to use it as a daily driver. I'll gladly wait, but I pretty much can't use it (at least regularly) until then.
The way I just switched from GBoard to HeliBoard for the exact same reason. It's like this video was made for me. Loving the keyboard so far
Couldn't come at a better time. Copilot is a real threat, Simple got sold to an ad farm and Fleksy isn't going anywhere fast. The FUTO keyboard feels real good!
I'm typing on Google Keyboard but thank the TH-cam Algorithm for recommending me this video. Instantly sold on this FUTO keyboard!
Instantly uninstalled MS Swiftkey after installing Futo and trying it for 2 minutes. Really good.
Been using it for STT but it's still missing some things I can't do without on the keyboard end. Can't wait to see it mature.
I was using Yandex but I'm giving futo a try typing this comment. It seems a little sluggish but still very usable. Thanks for the recommendation
I am typing this comment via voice input from futo keyboard. It seems to work pretty well. I would say better than Google and Microsoft. I am speaking Indian accent English and this keyboard picks up very nicely.
there's a feature missing and that is multilingual typing*autocorrect. I speak english and spanish and with gboard I have word suggestions for both languages at the same time. this is a huge improvement from keyboards that require you to switch between two languages whenever you're typing.
My biggest criticism with it is the option of having the number pad in the symbol menu, which is the best part of SwiftKey. Apart from that is a pretty decent keyboard.
This keyboard is what I have wanted for so so so long. They use the same long-press symbol layout as gboard which has been my favorite for that and the voice typing is amazing! It is faster than google voice typing and just as convenient as in gboard. My only issue is that the haptic feedback doesn't feel quite right, being more of a buzz vs a tapping feeling, but I may just not be getting the settings set up right.
It works quite well this was very slopeppy written (you can see how bad I wrote by the word it couldn't correct).
I am impressed.
I also swapped from Swiftkey to the futo keyboard. So far it's been good. My only gripe is the autocorrect getting things wrong sometimes and that it feels like a keyboard from the early 2010's with things, ie no I didn't mean "duck".
I never use voice to text. Simply because I don't want people to know what I'm saying, including my family. They don't need to hear me shitposting from across the room.
There is also some weird bugs that pop up from time to time such as selecting words from the suggestion bar either adding two spaces or no spaces. But I mean, it's an alpha. I knew things were going to be funky when I swapped to it. Still a solid keyboard and I look forward to updates.
Apparently no Japanese language support. And no multiple languages with Latin alphabet in one keyboard (instead of adding multiple keyboards). Very unfortunate, but it seems I have to keep using SwiftKey until these things are added.
I've been using it for about a month now and the only issue I've encountered is swiping seems to not rank word results by probability. This is most visible in short words like "as" being recognized as "AAA" or "and" being recognized as "SBD."
I'm using FUTO with Microsoft Swiftkey, shockingly enough. I love its voice dictation!
Yeah, it's not quite as good as Copilot's voice input key (which can't be used for normal typing because MS are a barrel of macaques), but it's surprisingly adept. I'm rocking the same combo myself, as terrible as SwiftKey is.
@@SolarScion Interestingly, if ya hold down the comma and choose said dictation method we're talking about, works quite nicely! You may need to turn off Google Voice Input first...
Switched a week ago. I'd previously used the Google keyboard (Gboard) for the past 3 years when I upgraded my phone. So far, so good! I don't have many complaints, and those are minimal.
The swiping (which I use 99% of the time) is a little finicky, having trouble with a lot of words both short and long. I'm hoping that this only gets better with time.
Some of the autocorrect suggestions are a little... Odd. Swiping from "s" to "o" suggests "SSSI" and many other 3-4 letter acronyms that I've had to blacklist. Gboard got really good at understanding what I was trying/wanting to say in most cases, and I'm hoping that FUTO gets to a comparable point eventually. I do have the "learning" option enabled, so we'll see.
The voice input is actually incredible. I don't have the clearest voice, and I have an Aussie accent as well. Out-of-the-box it's at least 99% accurate, often 100%. This really blew me away the first time I used it, and I'm using it more every day.
It is an incredible keyboard and will only get better with time.
I searched "Futa", and oh my Lord.
Been using this keyboard for a few days. It's definitely not as good for me. Glad to hear it's working well for other folks
Man I just switched to this keyboard and it works amazing
Literally refused to learn the word "fuck"
bro i wanst aware that i needed this keyboard so much