I did this today and its a whole lot easier taking the fan shroud out. it gives you lot of space to remove the starter out. no struggling whatso ever. and use a cardboard to cover & protect the radiator assembly. took about an hour and half with the right tools.
Thanks for the video. I am a seasoned "shadetree" mechanic(with some actual professional experience) and this video helped save a bunch of time. I did however find it easier to remove the starter by fishing it through the top(through the area where the air box was mounted) rather than through the bottom. Even with the bolt completely removed for the oil lines bracket, I was still not able to fit it pulling through the bottom. Thanks again.
+Paul Grindley You were in the same boat as me. I wish I had thought of taking it out through the top but I just ended up removing one of the lines to get it out.
@@Ginlon-f1sYes you can. At least I was able to. Can’t quite remember how I did it as it was quite a while back. Still have the car and haven’t had any issues with it since.
Thank you for the video. You also saved me almost $600. I did have problems putting the repaired starter back in because I stripped a bolt and spent hours trying to screw that in before I gave up to fix the stripped bolt. I did have the black bolt left over... maybe I used the wrong bolt? I removed three bolts and replaced two; I don't know where the other one went so I didn't replace it. Anyways, I fixed the starter thanks to you and my car is running great. Now to fix that loud metallic creaking noise I'm hearing from my driver's side rear wheel... perhaps it's a spring or shock absorber...?
Great videos! Definitely made changing the starter on my 12 Sonata. Part was $250 from dealer and hour and 50 minutes from start to finish to change it out. Toughest part was getting the new starter in place, everything else was a breeze. Thanks again!
This video was a huge help. I have an identical vehicle except it is from california so there are a few minor differences. I had to actually remove one of the lines (which was antifreeze and not oil) to get the starter out. I certainly would not have been able to do it without this videos insight.
Thanks for this video. I was able to replace it with success. Went through the top, removed the radiator fan for access along with the ETC (Electronic throttle control) module and a bunch of hoses. Putting it back in was tough. Had to pull it out and then back in a couple of times to align it right.
This video was huge help and thanks, I would add that the actual removal of starter can be made slightly easier when you fully remove the one screw shown @6:44 and fully remove the 2 screws shown @7:41. That was the only screws I had to remove to give enough clearance to get starter out. Everything else was exactly as described in this tutorial. Again Thank you very much to creator as I used this many times coming back throughout the entire process.
Would you not save time by taking the intake off? Just curious. Im about to do one tomorow. And I Hage big hands. All that tight space looks hard to work in. I thought it would be faster to just take off the intake and have access to it from the top 🤔
I just did my 2011 Sonata GLS. I did it from the top. Disconnect battery, take off air intake, remove throttle body manifold, put a rag into the intake, then put stoppers in the antifreeze lines, and remove bolt that holds electrical lines in place below the throttle body so you can wiggle the starter out. Easy access to the 2 identical bolts for starer motor. The wires are long enough to access them after the starter is out. Took about 2 hours to remove and then replace the cheap starter lever (OEM# 3612G100 FFF) that broke at 78K miles. No reason a new starter for me. Bench tested before reinstall. One small problem is the quick release electrical connection for the solenoid was broken. I just pulled the wire out. On reinstalling it was quite tight on the female to male connector so I left it on. Maybe an after thought a bit of hight heat silicone would give a bit more security. Otherwise this is not a hard job even with big hands. A lot of failures are seen on this starter lever for models 2010-2014. A very bad design.
I had this same issue. I did not have to loosen the bolts/brackets as the starter came out rather easily. The one thing I did have to do was to install the started without the electrical connections attached. It was much easier to install the connections after the starter was in place.
ACES on the video and instruction. I did this on my daughter's car over the weekend. Took less than 2hrs to complete with most of the time at the start. I didnt have to loosen the oil lines you did. Just the bracket with the 4 bolts behind the lines. It came out very easily. Saved me $600+. Thanks
Did you remove a engine mount bracket? I have nowhere near the clearance you have. *Edit: I ended up maneuvering the motor out through the top where the air hose was removed. I have a 2011 Sonata GL.
All I did was removed the throttle body and unbolted the starter and pulled it up and disconnect the wires and reinstalled it with out ripping anything else off the engine I didn't Jack the car up at all did it all from the top
Um working on 2013 and i can see everything from the top gotta move a few cooliant hoses but i don't see getting it from the bottom any easier. I got it out pain in the azz all from the top..no need jacking it up...12-30-2019...
Hmm, you make this very complicated, only thing I disconnect at the top is the negative battery cable. This is a 25 minute job done all from underneath, just take off the 4 bolts and slide that lower intake bracket out and it gives you plenty of room. I use my Harbor freight 90' El shaped ratchet for the top starter bolt as that allows me to get that from underneath as well without issues.
Great video, thanks. Very helpful indeed. I pulled the battery & oil filter as well for some extra hand room. The biggest issue is that there are 3 different starters for the '09, it can have 8, 11, or 12 teeth, make sure you get the right one.
I'm plannig to replace my kia rondo's starter with 2.4 l engine almost the same you have and i think that you should've only removed the radiator fan and air hose other than removing all these things.
I took out the intake manifold from the top first. After that, I had all the room in the world to get to both bolts holding the starter in and to take out the starter.
on the 2009 model they had a design change mid production .1 starter is 90 bucks and of course mine was the 300 dollar one...luckily i have a buddy that is a supervisor at a salvage yard,paid 20..
A valeo starter, huh? The same brand in my BMW motorcycle. Well known for failing because of the glue that holds the permanent magnets inside of the starter fails! Would be interesting to see if this is the same problem here.
When U Install New One,Run Some Conduit or Rubber Hose Over the HookUp Lead to Starter, Especially if U Park Car Outside.Squirrel or Field Mice KNAWED Thru Mine,Butterflied It ,Then Wrapped With Electric Tape.
Ok first off stop touching stuff. Book time is 1hr out and in. Literally you take intake duct and battery/tray out. Unbolt starter Push it to the passenger side Flip it over so its in there backwards (plenty of room) Unclip signal wire, unbolt power Twist and remove out of driver side. Nothing but the battery, tray, and air filter have to come out.
Tony is right.Dis mount throttle body use bungee cord to pull out of way so not have to remove coolant hoses,remove intake air temp sensor, you may have to loosen intake manifold bracket right behind starter.Then pull starter out far enough to remove wires.Book time only pays 1.4 hour.
I'm an atheist, but if there is a hell, the engineers who designed this nightmares and others like it, should spend eternity disassembling and reassembling their vehicles. LOL !
I agree, I cut the wire tire on the wire loam right in front of the fan, i unbolted the wires to the left of the battery and slipped the started out the top. My 2011 has a huge motor mount on the front bottom side of the motor which is NOT pictured in this video, with the motor mount it made the bottom look even more difficult.
+giantsfan1056 Yeah...mine had it . Unfortunately the aftermarket starter was about a half inch longer and HAD to go in through the damn bottom....Had to remove that mount & oil lines.
theres another video where the guy did it from the top. just remove the intake manifold. looks very easy. and much easier than doing it from the bottom.
Hyundai is much less expensive than Honda or Toyota. Hyundai made sure to remove starter harder and nastier, and many bolts to be unscrew. Hyundai phylosophy I will charge less but I will make owners and mechanics suffer. I will never buy a Hyundai no way no how,.
I did this today and its a whole lot easier taking the fan shroud out. it gives you lot of space to remove the starter out. no struggling whatso ever. and use a cardboard to cover & protect the radiator assembly. took about an hour and half with the right tools.
Thanks for the video. I am a seasoned "shadetree" mechanic(with some actual professional experience) and this video helped save a bunch of time. I did however find it easier to remove the starter by fishing it through the top(through the area where the air box was mounted) rather than through the bottom. Even with the bolt completely removed for the oil lines bracket, I was still not able to fit it pulling through the bottom. Thanks again.
+Paul Grindley You were in the same boat as me. I wish I had thought of taking it out through the top but I just ended up removing one of the lines to get it out.
+Paul Grindley You're welcome. I wasn't able to see an easier way to pull it out from the top. Nice work!
Can you get it from top without remove the intake manifold?
@@Ginlon-f1sYes you can. At least I was able to. Can’t quite remember how I did it as it was quite a while back. Still have the car and haven’t had any issues with it since.
Thank you for the video. You also saved me almost $600. I did have problems putting the repaired starter back in because I stripped a bolt and spent hours trying to screw that in before I gave up to fix the stripped bolt. I did have the black bolt left over... maybe I used the wrong bolt? I removed three bolts and replaced two; I don't know where the other one went so I didn't replace it. Anyways, I fixed the starter thanks to you and my car is running great. Now to fix that loud metallic creaking noise I'm hearing from my driver's side rear wheel... perhaps it's a spring or shock absorber...?
i just got it done...3 hrs....had tough time putting the bolts to the starter back in....but works perfectly and saved some money! thanks
You're welcome. Good job!
Great videos! Definitely made changing the starter on my 12 Sonata. Part was $250 from dealer and hour and 50 minutes from start to finish to change it out. Toughest part was getting the new starter in place, everything else was a breeze. Thanks again!
You're welcome. Thanks for making good use of the video and for the comment.
This video was a huge help. I have an identical vehicle except it is from california so there are a few minor differences. I had to actually remove one of the lines (which was antifreeze and not oil) to get the starter out.
I certainly would not have been able to do it without this videos insight.
Thank you so much sir. i followed your video and it worked great.... i wish it was more people like you in the world..... thanks for saving me a ton..
Thanks for this video. I was able to replace it with success. Went through the top, removed the radiator fan for access along with the ETC (Electronic throttle control) module and a bunch of hoses. Putting it back in was tough. Had to pull it out and then back in a couple of times to align it right.
You're welcome. Through the top seems to be popular. Well done!
This video was huge help and thanks, I would add that the actual removal of starter can be made slightly easier when you fully remove the one screw shown @6:44 and fully remove the 2 screws shown @7:41. That was the only screws I had to remove to give enough clearance to get starter out. Everything else was exactly as described in this tutorial.
Again Thank you very much to creator as I used this many times coming back throughout the entire process.
+Jason Silvestry So glad to hear the video helped you. Thanks for taking the time to comment and adding the helpful details.
Would you not save time by taking the intake off? Just curious. Im about to do one tomorow. And I Hage big hands. All that tight space looks hard to work in. I thought it would be faster to just take off the intake and have access to it from the top 🤔
Yeah take the intake off. Other viewers have done it successfully that way. Good luck with it!
I just did my 2011 Sonata GLS. I did it from the top. Disconnect battery, take off air intake, remove throttle body manifold, put a rag into the intake, then put stoppers in the antifreeze lines, and remove bolt that holds electrical lines in place below the throttle body so you can wiggle the starter out. Easy access to the 2 identical bolts for starer motor. The wires are long enough to access them after the starter is out. Took about 2 hours to remove and then replace the cheap starter lever (OEM# 3612G100 FFF) that broke at 78K miles. No reason a new starter for me. Bench tested before reinstall. One small problem is the quick release electrical connection for the solenoid was broken. I just pulled the wire out. On reinstalling it was quite tight on the female to male connector so I left it on. Maybe an after thought a bit of hight heat silicone would give a bit more security. Otherwise this is not a hard job even with big hands. A lot of failures are seen on this starter lever for models 2010-2014. A very bad design.
Note: if you are replacing the $8.00 lever arm there are a number of youtube videos on how to do it. Not hard at all. Just take your time.
I had this same issue. I did not have to loosen the bolts/brackets as the starter came out rather easily. The one thing I did have to do was to install the started without the electrical connections attached. It was much easier to install the connections after the starter was in place.
Nice work. Thanks for watching and commenting!
ACES on the video and instruction. I did this on my daughter's car over the weekend. Took less than 2hrs to complete with most of the time at the start. I didnt have to loosen the oil lines you did. Just the bracket with the 4 bolts behind the lines. It came out very easily. Saved me $600+. Thanks
You're welcome. Nice work. Two hours is a very good time on this starter!
What two ends did you attach the turn buckle
Thank you very much, your video helped me to repair my car!
Best Tutorial jus far!
Did you remove a engine mount bracket? I have nowhere near the clearance you have. *Edit: I ended up maneuvering the motor out through the top where the air hose was removed. I have a 2011 Sonata GL.
+Travis Ko I didn't have to remove a bracket, only loosen it. Good job finding a way to get it out!
In your video on how to change the starter in a hyundai sonata, I have a 2011 2.4 L, is this the same as the video?
+samantha p It should be, as mine was a 2011.
Is it any problem to disconnect the battery like the radio, antitheft sistem, other module or sensor? Them donot go crazy
I didn't have any problem on this car. I've only heard of a few high end European cars that don't handle a disconnected battery well.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
All I did was removed the throttle body and unbolted the starter and pulled it up and disconnect the wires and reinstalled it with out ripping anything else off the engine I didn't Jack the car up at all did it all from the top
Does anyone know if the starter is in a diff place for the 3.3?
Um working on 2013 and i can see everything from the top gotta move a few cooliant hoses but i don't see getting it from the bottom any easier. I got it out pain in the azz all from the top..no need jacking it up...12-30-2019...
Hmm, you make this very complicated, only thing I disconnect at the top is the negative battery cable. This is a 25 minute job done all from underneath, just take off the 4 bolts and slide that lower intake bracket out and it gives you plenty of room. I use my Harbor freight 90' El shaped ratchet for the top starter bolt as that allows me to get that from underneath as well without issues.
Thanks for sharing the helpful details.
Great video, thanks. Very helpful indeed. I pulled the battery & oil filter as well for some extra hand room. The biggest issue is that there are 3 different starters for the '09, it can have 8, 11, or 12 teeth, make sure you get the right one.
You're welcome and thanks for adding the heads up on the different starters. I did not know that.
Do u know if this will be the same on a 2011 Elantra?
Sorry, I don't know.
Yes it is
is this the same for a 2.7l 2004 hyundai sonata?
Sorry, I don't have information on that.
I'm plannig to replace my kia rondo's starter with 2.4 l engine almost the same you have and i think that you should've only removed the radiator fan and air hose other than removing all these things.
Good luck with it. There are many ways to get to the same destination.
Wow ! What a pain in the rear. I wonder what the dealer charges for this job ?
More than $500. I admit it may be easier from the top though, as some viewers have expressed.
$600
would it be the same on a 2013 kia optima?
I don't know. I guess take a close look at the engine in the video and see if it looks the same.
I have replaced the fuel pump when I spray quick start the car start but want stay running 2005 Hyundai sonata
I'm trying to keep car running when I spray quick it will Start but won't stay running can someone please help me out
That's a 2005 Hyundai sonata
I was cheering for you when you were taking the last rubber shim off lol
The bracket that holds the wire was enough without loosening that bracket...it will squeeze up through the top without the throttle body as well
Great video my friend very help full 💪👀👀😀
I took out the intake manifold from the top first. After that, I had all the room in the world to get to both bolts holding the starter in and to take out the starter.
OK, if that worked well for you, great job!
on the 2009 model they had a design change mid production .1 starter is 90 bucks and of course mine was the 300 dollar one...luckily i have a buddy that is a supervisor at a salvage yard,paid 20..
When doing videos, back up the shot so we can see what you are doing please.
A valeo starter, huh? The same brand in my BMW motorcycle. Well known for failing because of the glue that holds the permanent magnets inside of the starter fails! Would be interesting to see if this is the same problem here.
+ICU2 I've heard that these starters on the 4 cyl GDI engines (which is common to hyundai, kia, etc.) are POS. They are notorious for it.
When U Install New One,Run Some Conduit or Rubber Hose Over the HookUp Lead to Starter, Especially if U Park Car Outside.Squirrel or Field Mice KNAWED Thru Mine,Butterflied It ,Then Wrapped With Electric Tape.
Ok first off stop touching stuff. Book time is 1hr out and in. Literally you take intake duct and battery/tray out.
Unbolt starter
Push it to the passenger side
Flip it over so its in there backwards (plenty of room)
Unclip signal wire, unbolt power
Twist and remove out of driver side.
Nothing but the battery, tray, and air filter have to come out.
forget taking the skid plates off haha just take the throttle body off and pull it right out from the top
Tony is right.Dis mount throttle body use bungee cord to pull out of way so not have to remove coolant hoses,remove intake air temp sensor, you may have to loosen intake manifold bracket right behind starter.Then pull starter out far enough to remove wires.Book time only pays 1.4 hour.
I'm an atheist, but if there is a hell, the engineers who designed this nightmares and others like it, should spend eternity disassembling and reassembling their vehicles. LOL !
lmao i agree
LMAO! 😂
you're awesome thanks for the walk through.
Thank you!
You're welcome.
Take it put through the top. 10x easier. Rode right along the fan shroud and pulled it straight out.
I agree, I cut the wire tire on the wire loam right in front of the fan, i unbolted the wires to the left of the battery and slipped the started out the top. My 2011 has a huge motor mount on the front bottom side of the motor which is NOT pictured in this video, with the motor mount it made the bottom look even more difficult.
+giantsfan1056 Yeah...mine had it . Unfortunately the aftermarket starter was about a half inch longer and HAD to go in through the damn bottom....Had to remove that mount & oil lines.
This is exactly how my 2012 Kia optima lx is structured. I need my starter replaced but the dealership is gonna require an arm and a leg.
I didn't think it was that hard. Some think it's easier through the top. Good luck!
The Original Mechanic thanks! I did some research and it's a recall so hopefully I get it replaced for free soon.
U can change it from the top all that is not need jus move throttle body well maybe y’all not mechanics 🤷🏽♂️👀😂
Thanks for watching and adding to the group favoring the form the top removal.
Agree on removal from top. Much easier. Just remove throttle body!!
same make, model, motor. totally different as far as the bottom bolt goes smh
Easier to remove starter from the top by removing the electric radiator fan first.
theres another video where the guy did it from the top. just remove the intake manifold. looks very easy. and much easier than doing it from the bottom.
no more Korean-built cars for this lothario. don't know what,but the choice is not hyundai
Hyundai is much less expensive than Honda or Toyota. Hyundai made sure to remove starter harder and nastier, and many bolts to be unscrew. Hyundai phylosophy I will charge less but I will make owners and mechanics suffer. I will never buy a Hyundai no way no how,.
This video sucks you're to Zoomed in to see Anything you're doing or where the starter even is.
That is way too much to takeoff a starter
this car is the biggest pile of crap ever!!! 70,000 miles and my sisters starter when out plus the 25 or more recalls its had......not impressed
Hyundai is the disposable cars
Totally different on my 2016 2.4 l the manifold must come off to get to the starter