John's review of the Long Hive (with standard Langstroth frames) | Advice from a Beekeeper
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- In this episode, John tells us all about his newly acquired Long Hive. He walks us through the basics of the long hive construction, and then moves a box of bees into it. It's a pretty simple process if you take your time, and you'll save your back a lot of trouble too.
The long hive John is using is built to hold standard Langstroth frames. Here's some interesting trivia about the Langstroth frame. In 1851, the Reverend Lorenzo Lorraine Langstroth (1810-1895), a Philadelphia native, noticed that when his bees had less than 9 mm but greater than 6 mm of space in which to move around, they would neither build comb into that space nor cement it closed with propolis. This measurement is called "bee space". So, now you know where your Langstroth frame gets its name.
Do you use a long hive in your bee yard? What questions do you have about the long hive? Let us know by leaving a comment. We'd love to talk to you!
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Due to the difficulty of logistics, we cannot easily ship this long hive. We sell it in-store only at the current time, but you're always welcome to make a trip to see us. We're located conveniently off of I-40 in scenic Russellville, Arkansas. Come visit with John and Corinne, and we'll load your car for you!
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Have you had experience with the long hive? Let us know your thoughts. Leave a review in the comments!
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I kept bees in top bar hives for 7 years, in southern Ontario. Some colonies did well, others did not. I'm going to try long-langs this year in central Alberta.
I built 2 recently and I just put bees in a couple weeks ago and they are doing very well so far
I love the GENTAL way you handle your Bees,,,you really respect their home!!!
They do a lot for us, so we show them the same respect. ❤️
Hi. I have a Horizontal Hive using Jumbo Deep Langstroth Frames, here in Scotland 🏴
Tip :
Your top boards dont need ventilation holes ! The space between the Frames themselves and those Boards is enough internal Ventilation. Think you will find those bees will just gum up those unnecessary holes with Propolis and Wax !
Advise you to view USA Beekeeper TH-camr Fred Dunn : he doesnt like top Hive Ventilation at all. He has several long Langstroth Horizontal Hive Videos, worth watching for sure.
(Bees dont do any top ventilation in Nature !)
So why would Beeks add this???
They have their own in house" A/C ": its called Fanning with their 'Wings' !
Done for 100s x1000s of Years. They know best. 😉
Just my thoughts on the matter, if new Beeks watch this and need the reasoing behind it. 👀
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My Horizontal Hive was made using the same as yours. A lifted Lid, on a Hinge, with Chains to stop it Tipping over. . .
Mine was an " Ex Log Storage Box" Outdoor use pp Wood Burner Stove.
That has had an extra inner Cavity Wall built using added Insulation. Decided x4 Inches of Scottish Wool would do the trick ! (Plenty of Sheep Farms about these parts. Wool is dirt cheap if you ask nicely.) 🙃
This Box within a Box gives the Girls a Great x22 Jumbo Deep Frame Capacity Hive Body, with the Brood Nest / Frames at the Sunnier end. Uses x1 Entrance only, on this South Facing Hive.
About x1 Third along, is an intergrated Vertical Queen Excluder, and the last Third of the Box being the Honey Super 'Area'.
Each top Board has a Kitchen Cabinet Handle for easy lifting. Super easy to lift off wiith Bee Gloves on (!) And added some Plexiglass Drink Coasters in situ. : Covering a x2" pre-cut Hole as Viewing Ports to each Board (!)
Really handy to peek through to see if the Bees are OK, without lifting any Inner Board, especially in low season or mid Winter. No heat gets out ! No draughts or condensation occur, as the internal Mesh [VM] Floor deals with airflow. Nice and simple. And its worked brilliantly for x4 years now. 👍
Regular Box Hives have resulted in some form of 'Deadouts' in this time.
Interesting to compare...
This 'Log Box' was really Deep, so it had an Inner Mid Floor (Wire Mesh) added : to do regular Varroa Mite drop [Treatments] : Checks. And the lower area (externally)with its own (hinged lengthwise) Draw Front : is my Bee Tool Equipment Stash under Store ! Takes my Bee Smoker, Sawdust Fuel, Queen Cages, Pollen Patty Tub, even a Varroa Mite Board (using an ex : Kitchen Teacup Carry Tray, Baking Oil Sprayed : to take the Critter Count.) Done just like that. . .
Simples. 😎
You can make a great Hive out of anything really ! : Just measure your Frames 'Style of choice' (:US Langstroth, UK National, French Warre, Scottish Smith, etc, etc.) And add some Bee Space 'x2' and you have a working Hive. Sorted ! 👍
What A good looking hive . I guess with your add on extra’s to this hive you can now call it the “long John” hive . Lol . Thanks again for all your video’s and information
Haha, Kathy that's a good one! Thanks for the comment. We hope you have a wonderful day!
I really enjoyed listening to you explain the new bee hive sir. You explain things so clear and at the same time you make it interesting.
I appreciate your work you do putting these videos together and the time you spend educating other bee keepers.
May God bless you and keep you always ,
Matt from Battletown ky
Thank you for the nice comment, Matt. We really appreciate you dropping by. If we can ever help you, give us a shout!
Love the one we got from you. It has really done great. Very well made. Will be buying more.
We are very glad that y'all are happy with the hive. Your right they are built very well and should last for many years. Enjoy and hope you have a great bee season.
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Nice video, and I like the way you are working smoothly, I have 5 bee hives, only horizontal hives survived the harsh winter here in Canada.
Thanks for the comment! Good luck with the bees in Canada. :-)
Looks like a good answer for a bad back or a person with a physical disability. At 65 with scoliosis I struggle with a full medium. Good video always an education.
It would absolutely be good for someone with a bad back. Keeping you from having to lift/twist/pull so much. Definitely recommended!
Feeder in the follower board is brilliant gunna get on that tomorrow.. thanks
Let us know how it turns out!
Built my first long lang hive and love it! Put my first swarm in in May and they are working on 18 frames. Working the bees is the huge difference all I need is a Vail so gental
That's great to hear! Thanks for watching.
that was a great video , i love that long box, looks easy to work if you have a bad back, thanks for sharing
You bet! Thanks for watching.
Here in Michigan with our winters, and the Varroa mite situation, we don't even pretend that our bees will survive beyond late fall. GREAT tutorial!
It's a wonder the bees can stay warm in a Michigan winter. It gets COLD! Thanks for the comment. Good luck!
Watch Doug and Stacey Off the Grid. In 2020 they highlighted using a horizontal hives in Minnesota. No problems overwintering or losing bees.
This is great information. I think I will be using the long box format when I finally get started. I really appreciate you knowing people 'hey what do you keep in this box?' 🤓
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Looking very good 👍!!! Love your videos.
Hey thank you! We just subscribed to your channel. Thanks for creating bee content!
Just found your channel. Hoping to be moved to the Ozarks in the next few months and will be keeping you in mind when we get there.
We'd love to meet you! Give us a shout anytime you're near Russellville. We're right off of I-40.
Recently found your channel and love it! So informative and helpful.Thank You!!! I also have a Jack so I enjoy watching Pistol also.
Oh that's awesome, Donna! Thanks so much for the comment. We appreciate you watching our channel. If you ever have questions, let us know and we'd be happy to help. Pistol says Hello, and he wants you to subscribe to our channel! :-)
Nice!!
Nice setup John, I think I might try one.
Go for it! Let us know how it goes! I'm loving it so far.
I have to switch over to long hives because my shoulders just can't handle lifting the deeps anymore. I'm figuring I can run long hives and do mediums on top.
I'm looking at management techniques and will be checking your channel for any work you've done on the long hive
That's another reason to use those gorgeous glass covers I've seen under the roof, though. If somebody does get in there and lift a lid, they're going to see a whole lot of bees under the glass.
I’m building a long hive now , but I love rapid round feeders so much I’m gonna figure a feeder shim system out for the top to give me space to be able to feed all winter if I have to without opening the heated interior of the hive your feed system looks like it works ok but the rapid round feeders can hold a gallon of syrup at a time and they never leak , i guess that’s the main reason I like em so much , very good video by the way I hit the thumb and the subscribe!! 😄good luck this year !
Appreciate the recommendation, David! Good luck to you as well!🐝
@@CentralBeekeepersSupply the only thing I recommend for your viewers new to beekeeping if they use rapid round feeders is to get a 2-3 t toddler sock 🧦 and cut the toe out of it and stretch it over the inner hole so you don’t lose bees in the swamp of syrup , a toeless sock makes them bullet proof and it’s easier to feed right over the brood , it’s even easier for the long hive and less death from starvation in the winter because you are feeding right over the brood and they don’t break cluster
Enjoy your videos. First year beek. Built my own long hive this summer but my colony has struggled due to heat, varroa mites and their new bee keeper bothering them too much. Hope they survive. Lots of dead bees. About 3 frames full left. I am in North Florida.
😩 if someone goes to opening things around our house while visiting its survival of the fitest up in here😂. Im not going through your sock drawer if i come to visit you. All im saying is , if you come to a homestead just dont open anything😂
Love the background music!
We haven’t tried that style yet but it looks to have a few benefits. My concern would be colder climates and Moisture but I have no doubt insulation and ventilation would help. Looking forward to seeing how it works out for ya. Thanks got sharing and stay safe.
Fingers crossed! So far it's going great. I have a few thoughts for winterizing, but I'm not sure what I'll do yet. Let us know if you give it a shot. Thanks for stopping by!
I have long hives and so far have no complaints. With regard to cold, I’m in S.Ga so winters are pretty mild but we do get down into the mid 20’s, my hives are made with 2” thick pine (2x12) material so the bees have quite a bit of insulation. There are ways of adding “quilt boards” to the tops of these hives. It’s basically a box that fits under the cover and on top of your top board. This box is usually filled with raw wool fiber or some other insulating material (box is only an inch or 2 thick depending on your needs.). Between that, the 2 inch walls, and if need be, you can wrap the hive with material to add more insulation. My bees have wintered well in them. Haven’t had much of a moisture issue either. Some folks just added insulative material above the cover boards without an additional box. As long as the bees can’t get to it an make a mess out of it, that works as well. Hope this helps.
@@tedkraft6416 So. Georgia has some pretty good humidity. How have they held up as far as preventing mold or getting wet inside?
Help pistol get the lizard 🦎 out . I was trying to keep an eye on him and you at the same time. Great video and hope they fill the box before long. ❤🐝🐝🐝
Pistol is very serious about his lizard hunting activities. And his empty bottle hunting. And his bee hunting. And so on. 😊
I have been using this type of horizontal hive for about 7 years. I like it better than the langstroth hives.
Love it. Thanks for the comment, David!
1 comment & 1 question:
Comment - I tried a Long Langstroth about 4 years ago and it had horrible moisture problems. It rotted after just 1 year. I don't know if it was the design I used, the over size, or the materials (pine 3/4" plywood cut into planks) - it was not just the environment because it was sitting next to my traditional langstroth hives and they typically last 4 years or more.
I was kind of hoping to see some advice on how to prevent humidity from causing these kinds of problems in my next attempt.
Question - on the feeder: why not just use a normal frame feeder? I use them (from MotherLode Products) and keep them in all 60+ of my Langstroth hives all year long (even when not feeding). Seems to be much easier than cutting into the follower board...
I'd really like to build my own long lang, can I ask what kind of hinges you used for the lid? They look like they work great.
Would like to have a long hive
They're definitely a great way to save your back some effort.
I can’t find where you sell these. I am very interested. As a novice this looks perfect for me. Are there plans? You don’t seem to have any at you supply.
Due to shipping logistics the long hive is only available in-store. We'll help you load it in your vehicle, but we can't ship it. Sorry about that!
I recommend keeping your bees in a locked yard. It's not just unsuspecting visitors you don't want getting into them.
Good recommendation.
Hi, enjoyed this video so much. With a bad back and an interest in getting into bee keeping I have watched many videos.
How does one tell if the bees are honey bees or wasps if approaching for the first time and don't see the nest??
Thank you!
Hi there! Honey bees and wasps are very different in appearance and behavior. I'd recommend getting familiar with photos and videos online, OR purchase one of our bee books from our online store to help!
www.centralbeekeeperssupply.com/onlinestore/Beekeeping-for-Dummies-5th-edition-p102587753
PLEASE MAKE MORE UPDATES ON YOU LONG LANG STROTH HIVE PLEASE
We will definitely make an attempt! Things have been quite busy at the store lately, so we're trying to catch up on our videos. Stay tuned! Subscribe to the channel to get notifications when we post new content. Thanks Steven!
Good idea of using the feeder in the follower board. I'm just curious...if you wanted to feed winter patties in the winter how would you do it in this hive? Take the hinges off and put in a shim?
There's enough "bee space" between covers and frames to allow pollen patties to lie across frames, just like you would feed them in a standard hive. Great question! Thanks for watching!
Pistol sounds like the smoker going flatout
Hahaha yes he does. 🐕
What a wonderful idea. I love the long box, what are the dimensions of the box
Inside dimensions:
18-3/8" wide
42-1/4" long
10-1/2" deep
How many frames will it comfortably hold?
Hey John, great instruction. Where do you buy these or more importantly where did you get the plans to build one? Thank you!
We sell them at our store pre-built, minus the modifications I made of course. I do believe there are some build plans online, but my findings are, there are no two alike! Lots of room for customization.
Unfortunately it would be hard to ship, so we only sell them in-store. Sorry! You're welcome to come see us anytime and we'd be happy to load a few into your truck for you. :-)
Ok, I looked online and didn't see them on your website. I will look again. Thank you.
JOHN, IF YOU SELL THE QUEEN-EXCLUDER . PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN BUY THEM FROM YOU I BUILD MY OWEN LONG LANG STROTHS.THANKS
A frame feeder would work also; correct?
Absolutely!
@@CentralBeekeepersSupply I'll be looking forward to your future vlogs on the progress of the horizontal hive through the season. Hope it works out well. Thanks for your time and effort in posting the video!
That's a good looking hive. I'm actually building my own right now. I hope I can make it as nice as that one but I'm an electrician not a carpenter lol
I have a question about follower boards. I've built my own Long lang hive. Does the follower board need to take up the entire space where bees can't get to the other side or should it bee made with bee space in mind
The follower board should stop the bees completely from entering the uninhabited space beyond their combed-out frames. No bee space around the follower. This will help them maintain winter heat as well. Thanks for watching! 🐝
@@CentralBeekeepersSupply awesome, thanks guys as always!
Thinking about transitioning to one too. If you had to feed in the winter months, how would you remove and reinstall the feeder without impacting the colony?
Will the heat from the a/c unit cause any problems with the heat it will generate?
This unit is the old unit for our shop. It's not even functional anymore.
What do you use for smoker fuel? I’m new and the bees seem to react quickly to your smoker…plus I can’t see any smoke
I use cotton fibers! Easy to light, and they stay lit for a good amount of time. (Some people use wood pellets, and if you do, be sure to stuff some pine needles on top so they don't roll out into your hive box and catch it on fire. 🔥)
If you're interested, you can find our cotton fiber smoker fuel on our website. Thanks for watching!
www.centralbeekeeperssupply.com/online-store/1-lb-Cold-Draft-Smoker-Fuel-p102587941
I have a question I’ve been watching to be videos multiple sites I’m just curious how come no beekeepers try to winter the bees on the inside with the right temperature also with plants that they can feed on all winter and then went to The weather breaks take them outside so they can do their duty with pollinating everything and then when the winter comes again bring them back inside. Now curious the mites do they get them from being outside so if you had them inside all year long even during the summer with that eliminate them from getting mites thank you
I get what you're saying, and yes it's been done. Heating and cooling is a huge issue, however the northern states have had some success with this. They warehouse the bees in winter and move out in the spring. The bees pick up the mites from other flying insects because they are social and forage together. So, anytime they're allowed to be outside they are subjected to more mites. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
It takes 2 million flower visits to make 1 pound of honey. A typical hive needs about 50lbs of honey to get through a winter. I don't think you could have enough plants inside a building to even begin to make a dent in what they need to survive a winter. Plus the fact that bees travel 3 miles (or more) to forage - they would not want to be caged inside even a building as large as a domed football stadium.
How you do a good mite controle and treatment in these hives?
Hey Bart, we have several videos on our channel about Mite control. Thanks for asking! If you go to our channel, you can search for "mite" and they should all pop up. 😊
Won't they crawl through those vent holes?
Thanks for asking! The vent holes have little grates that prohibit movement through the vent.
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That's super smart! How much space do the bees need from the bottom of the frame to the floor of the hive? I know too much space and they will build comb and to little space they will fill with propolis.
Couldn't find the long hive in your store, is it for sale
I appreciate you asking. Due to shipping logistics we sell the long hive in-store only. We'd love to help you load it in the truck though!
Lovin Pistol as a Brit I have had Jack Russels most of my life little dogs who just don,t know how small they are balls of steel, currently I have an 11 year old JRT and a 6 month old Staffy Mastiff cross oh and 10 hives
It's amazing how resilient these little dogs are. Pistol is a faithful friend, a die-hard protector of the farm, and our friendliest mascot. Thanks for the comment!
Hi John, Does the whole hive survive with 1 Queen. Do you use 2 queen excluders. How many brood frames and food frames do you have.
one queen, an have sense stopped using excluder.number of brood frame determined by the bees. thanks for watching
Where can I buy one of these, or the plans for it?
At this point the long hives are pickup only. They're too large to ship, and we don't sell the plans. We're really sorry about that! We'd be happy to sell you as many as you like if you're able to come to our store in Russellville, Arkansas!
@@CentralBeekeepersSupply How many frames do these long hives hold?
could you put in a solid divider and put 2 small hives in? Each having their own opening none shared?
yes.
wont the bees get out the vent holes?
They did come through the vent holes. I addressed that by stapling #8 hardware over the holes. Thanks for asking your question!
john i would like follow you as you go from start to fisnish i need buy me that one maybe up 4 i'll start with one . i just found out from my doc lower back has degenerated disc i maybe force raise bees by that hive long langstroth hive im looking place good price i live in texas, city of palestine. thank glad i catch this . god bless
Howdy Steven, and thanks for checking in. I think for a person with back problems, you couldn't go wrong with a long hive. They definitely save the lifting and twisting that many of us beekeepers dread. We highly recommend the long hive! Thanks for the comment, my friend. Best of luck this coming season. Let us know if you ever need anything!
@@CentralBeekeepersSupply I WILL. I'LL HAVE TO WITH TWO REGS HIVE . THEN ILL START WITH ONE LONG LANG STROTH. I NEED TO LEARN. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T USE QUEEN EXCLUDER. THEY LET GO WITH FLOW. IT'S HARD TO FIND LONG LANG STROTH HIVE TO BUY SHIP TO TEXAS.. THANK GOD BLESS HAVE MERRY CHRISTMAS HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Why don't you have the whole top covered with tin like any other hive.
It sits under the roof of shop.
What's the price tag on a long hive
Hey Alton, if you don't mind, please give us a shout at the store. We're not currently selling these online, but we can give you pricing and details over the phone. (479) 968-4044
That flat roof, not a great idea in snow areas.
Long johns hive ?
Haha whatever you'd like to call it!
I'M A GRUNT, DIDNT YOU MOVE THOSE FRAMES AROUND WHEN MOVED THOSES BEES
How do I get to your Etsy store?
Thanks for asking! Our Etsy store and Online Store are linked below. Have a great day!
www.etsy.com/shop/AllThingsHoney
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How many frame in the hive?
it holds 30 frames.
This is a kenyan top bar hive
Awesome. Thanks for watching!
Are you selling these hives?
We don't sell them online due to shipping costs, but if you'll give us a call at the store we'll help you out.
479-968-4044
It's surprising to me to see how many people let their smokers go out and then instead of smoking them with nice cool smoke they blast them with hot air and ash...please bee better-what an example you would be if you just stopped and relit your smoker.
Thanks for watching, Barbara!
@@CentralBeekeepersSupply You're welcome John-didn't mean any offense.
Talk normally.