@@BjornRktos so you’re trying to tell me that gun powder isn’t flammable outside of a bullet casing? Idc if you’ve built guns for 200 years that just sounds stupid
@@nolan9949 that aint what he sayd he sayd gun powder does not have pressure if it's not contained gun powder is very flammable almost all the types r
Not the crimp. Neck tension. Wasn't sized properly or the expander ball was too large. The crimp won't retain the bullet if the neck tension isn't there. If the neck tension isn't there the crimp doesn't matter unless it's really aggressive - which is something you don't do on a semi auto.
Yes sir. Bullet setback. the projectile pushed into a case can blow a firearm up. Dont rack rds multiple times if you can help it and if you have just stand a fresh rd next to suspect rd and check or measure w a caliper if concerned. Setback increases the pressure dramatically. spikes it. can equal bad boom.
@@lilbravzo6ne casings get scratched from everything. Especially when chambering a round. It doesn't appear he's been reloading he doesn't even know what the actual bullet it. He called it a "lead tip" I doubt this guys reloading
Fiocchi loads them all, they just buy the brass from FN. I had the same issue with American Eagle. Its partly because they have to lubricate the brass to help the gun load the round. It's 1,000 percent on Fiocchi. They had quality control issues really bad for awhile as you now know.
@@nevmax9312Then count yourself lucky. Over the years I have fired thousands of 5.7 ammo from all sorts of manufacturers with no issues but with AE had at minimum 1-3 bullets not locked in with adhesive in every ctn.
Fn does not manufacture brass or ammunition components whatsoever period, and fiocchi absolutely doesn’t load or produce this ammunition either. If you think this cheap garbage ammunition company can afford to have Italian manufacturing produce these at a premium and then imported them at a premium ur not a smart person. Some a hole in his garage made this shit and used a ups store to print the logos.
Wrong sorts. See my above post. Up until just over a year ago Fiocchi loaded all the ammo on FNH supplied brass causing a bottle neck. They started a new contract and now Fiocchi is manufacturing their own 5.7 brass on 4 machines in Italy. The coating on the brass doesn't have a damn thing to do with helping feed or load the round. Stupid internet myth still around for 20 plus years.
i’ve heard most 5.7 bullets all come from FN themselves. these companies are just contracted out. if so then that means my american eagle 5.7s and your gunr 5.7s are coming from the same place and having the same problem. no good.
Wrong. Break down, Ss190, SS192, SS195, and SS198 , all components of case, bullet, primer from FNH, made by FNH. powder third party. All Elite Ammunition comes from Me/EA. All of the SS197, American Eagle, and this stuff is made by Fiocchi under contract. All Fiocchi ammo uses off the shelf powders and bullets. Up until just over a year ago Fiocchi loaded all the ammo on FNH supplied brass causing a bottle neck. They started a new contract and now Fiocchi is manufacturing their own 5.7 brass on 4 machines in Italy.
Unlike us reloaded that check every round as we load it factory ammo is made on motorized loaders and made in bulk so rounds don’t get checked near as often as if you were hand loading
Wrong, Fiocchi decided to not mechanically crimp the bullets. FNH uses glue to crimp on SS190, SS192, SS195 and SS198. I/EA use a custom roll crimp on all our ammo.
FNGUNR is tge brand since he doesn't wanna help fellow gun owners and farm view. Btw 5.7 in general wanna stick with fiochhi and the actual fn brand because the r big manufacturers and have the right tolerances and machines so im not surprised stop going cheap and this wont happen ik it sucks but wait till other good competition starts making 5.7 like sellier and bellot and prices will drop
That's really not an excuse. Blazer brass doesn't do this. Besides, this is made for and branded by the original MFG that produced the caliber and firearms. This is FN ammo. All FN branded ammo in the US is made by fiocchi, even the SS ammo.
@@calangelyou are right tho a reputable ammo manufacturer shouldn't have this problem but for him to act like it's a deadly issue is the problem ya the had a bad Bach of crimping but are you at risk of injury no
@zakpike4582 Tell me, you know nothing about firearms or how ammunitions work without telling me you don't. Those bullets can harm you when there is loose powder everywhere. It's why everybody hated the cap and ball revolver that was made into a rifle when it was invented. The loose powder, along with fire, caused a chain reaction that caused every round to go off. If there is enough room for the projectiles to fall out, there is room for fire to get through. And the 5.7x28 does have a fireball at the end of the barrel when shot. Have both a ps90 and a ruger 5.7. All it takes is some of that loose powder to be in the wrong spot and boom. You lose both hands.
Had something similar with the FN ammo in the white and blue box . Shot atleast 5 rounds where the round jammed after firing.the round came out burnt ,striker was hit, no gunpowder left and the bullet shoved half way back in the casing .
The M&P 57 is nice, but I went with the Ruger 57 myself. Just fits my hand better, I dig the ambidextrous safety, and the carbine takes the same mags. I dig I dig. Also, when I got it, people were still hating on 57, which I’ve never been able to understand personally. It’s a fast moving, nice shooting round, and I’ve always liked it.
I’ve had a lot of problems with the fiocchi dynamic range ammo I’ve only ever bought the 150 round box but I believe I threw away 50+ bad rounds from the same issues…
@@jaredsithong6899I swear I could just pick out 5 rounds and pull the bullet out of the casing of atleast 1 everytime I was honestly so scared to shoot the rest I prolly still got 30 good rounds plus the 50 bad ones
It’ll be dis-heartening to get the replacement boxes only to find the same lot numbers. Besides, if they knew there was a problem with their lines, shouldn’t they have done a recall?
These are taget rounds. I have the same m&p 5.7. Also have a Fn. Ive only ever used FN hornandy (bluetips) and the high perfomace hollows. Never have had a single issue. DONT GO CHEAP YALL. Dont buy a 5.7 if you going to buy the cheapest ammo they make
I found a 40.cal cartridge in my box of 10mm brand was federal it was their hollow point punch i put it through my g29 it cycled and everything it was just 1 round
That’s because the 40S&W and the 10mm are essentially the same round…the 10mm has a bit longer casing and so it has a bit more powder to put some ass behind the round…
From a guy who has reloaded literally tens of thousands of rounds, I would doubt anything would have happened. Freak accidents happen, and trust me bro I'm glad nothing happened to you.. Today's powders are not like black powder. Black powder is explosive, and smokeless powder runs on pressure. I'm just glad you're good
That is one of the most ignorant statements of the day. All it takes is him cycle one round thru and the bullet stick in the chamber and he not notice and then loads and fires the round behind. His gun would go kaboom injuries to his hands at a minimum.
@@shaun536 You aren't going to Chain fire a magazine from a malfunction inside of the breach. It's unlikely that it would squib either. don't be a goober.
@emperorhadrian6011 Can you read? Do you have comprehension skills beyond that of a elementary student? Reread what I posted. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about it chain firing. But seeing as your lacking, let me spell it out for you real slow as I have personal experience with this very issue. If he had attempted to chamber one of those rounds and it was compressed his gun would explode and he would get seriously injured on at least one hand. Also had he chambered a loose round, not fired the gun, and then racked the slide he runs a high risk of that bullet remaining stuck at the start of the barrel in the chamber. If he then attempted to cycle the slide and chamber another round following and not catching that there was a bullet still in there, it could still chamber that next round and either set back the new bullet creating a explosive pressure spike or it could push that first bullet in deeper and upon firing create a explosive pressure spike. Both of those scenarios have happened in an 5.7 chambered firearms with that very same brand of bullets. Do I need to spell it out anymore for you?
@@shaun536 Read yourself before you post a paragraph of drivel, I'd also mentioned squibs, and that's because you went and wrote in such a vague untechnical way that I'd had to cover my bases.
I got some hornady critical defence that i had in my edc and if you chambered a round more than 2 or 3 times the case would crack and you could see thru it!!!
#1 Thats NOT BLCK POWDE its nitrocellulose powder more commonly known as smokeless powder. #2 the tips are called BULLETS. I have never seen commercial ammo come apart like that obviously they didn't crimp the case's properly. glad FN had your back and replaced your ammo. I probably would have just run them all through a crimping die but not everyone reloads
I had the same issue in with american eagle brand bought a box 6 of 50 had that issue had me pulling bullets because i racked it and it fell apart in the gun
6 years ago, I had the same issue with the fn boxes of green tip. Multiple boxes of bullets falling apart. I thought it was my gun, but my ps90 mag had loose pieces jammed in it.
No they weren't FN made rounds. You might THINK they were but they weren't. FNH manufactured ammo uses a glue to crimp that holds better then just about any other kind of crimp.
You shooting 5.7 for a reason? The M&P had some mag issues with bullets that had a longer OAL. Have seen a few. Like are you expecting to be shooting it out with someone who is wearing soft body armor? They penetrate well, but they dont carry much energy with that penetration. If youre invested now, I'd suggest a P90. May as well.
Why are you carrying FMJ ammo though? I'm 100% on your side with the ammo issues, but I'm a little concerned as to why it's being used as carry ammo? FMJ, on this round especially, is a massive over penetrator. Why not something like V-Max, Gold Dot or SS200 DFNS?
That ammo went really quick to the clearance sale everywhere. I saw a couple videos about the inconsistencies with velocity. Some had 500fps between shots. No idea who loaded that for FN, but they did a shit job.
FN GUNR is the brand. Notice how he’s all glittery and stuttering? He’s aware he can leave this open ended and route traffic to his ridiculously long video, not good btw, about buying cheap ammo expecting not cheap ammo. I mean dude has finesse in his username 🤦🏻♂️ you finessed your way out of ppl tuning into beyond this STUPID.
You realise finesse has more than one meaning . Doesn’t just mean to rob or fool someone lol . Where I’m at an example of it being used is in football or soccer “see the way I finessed the keeper?” -translation: “see how I outskilled the goalkeeper and banged it top bins”
Cool, quit whining don't own a fn and watching the vid cause it's a pretty large issue 😂 with that same argument .22s should be falling apart cause they're cheap...
OK you’re telling me those wrench marks on your bullet casing were there when you loaded it? I mean, if that’s the case, then you deserve that either something is very flawed with your pistol or you’re just scamming a video clic baiting.
Wrench marks? Wrenches are mostly square headed and fit bolts. They don’t leave marks on round objects. Do you mean pliers? Not a very knowledgeable detective.
@@TheBeefSlayer are you really complaining semantics with me? OK to be specific blue handle handle channel lock pliers. Is that better? I mean you understood what I was trying to say but you’re right not a wrench he was just wrenching on them. 👍
It’s crazy to think that this is a primarily fn ammo issue when fn is who created the round in the first place I can say tho for there expensive round I’ve never seen this cause that’s all my pops could get for his ps90 and fn 5.7 like 7 to 8 years ago
I've seen 5.7 blue tips going for 75 bucks for an opened box at a pawn shop with a huge firearms section. Insanity. It can be had for around 50 cents a round these days which is better than where it was a few years back, but still expensive
Yeah man I’d be scared too shoot that, id check every box obviously, shoot all that up and switch to a more reliable company even if its more expensive unfortunately. And I’d definitely use a mask when shooting that because loosing an eye or having a piece of metal pierce your face Those medical bills are gonna be a lot more than bullets🤣 stay safe brotha
Who's to say he didn't just pull the bullets in the first place? Who knows? I legitimately had a box of Federal HST in 9mm that had a bullet seated backwards in the case, when I called Federal they were aware of the issue with that lot and replaced it with 2 boxes free of charge!
5.7x28 is notorious for ammunition issues. There's no competition in the market for the ammo. The spec itself was badly designed. Why do I say this? The casings have to be coated in order to extract after firing. Without it, your $1200 Belgian toy becomes a single shot. Also worth noting that 5.7x28 bullets are glued in - not crimped. likely an issue with the glue station in the manufacturing line.
Actually, it's a bit scary that you don't know the proper terminology of the parts of a cartridge. Or if you 'used' it but were able to replace them back in the box. Use = spent Tip = bullet/projectile
@@aaronwilson4898 Again you are WRONG. Federal does NOT MAKE the American Eagle 5.7x28mm ammunition. Fiocchi MAKES that ammo. They are the same damn ammo from the same damn factory.
@EliteAmmunition OK I'll just believe you over the info released by federal that you could google in 10 seconds instead of acting like capital letters emphasize your point more. God the cringe behavior of "adults" these days.
I make my own ammo. 5.7 is unique ammunition that requires a special coating on the round (maybe just the brass casing) it’s essentially lubrication. My guess is that coating somehow messed with seating of the projectile or caused the projectile to come loose. I’ve had this happen to me like 2xs before (like literally 2 rounds) it could also be the brass was sized wrong, which happened to me. Clearly a huge problem but it’s exceptionally rare from reputable manufacturers. So while you did do the right thing I wouldnt worry about it. Just keeps your eyes out
Dude it does not require a special coating at all depending on the firearm. The coating was designed to aid in feeding through the p90 magazines and to help extraction of the casings once fired in the FSN pistol. There are no coatings on the bullets at all from FNH. The issue here is that the company fnh has running the process through has been doing shoddy work and poor QC during the bullet gluing and seating stage. Most other brands use a crimp whether it be a taper crimp or traditional roll crimp. If you buy either of those I would suggest you go out and get a lee factory crimp die and run them through when first bought for safety.
@@josefkobes9518I'm in the same boat as you. Never even had a slight issue not even once but I see a bunch of people talking about it like it's common knowledge. Sketches me right out
Why do I think this guy kept racking rounds and then this happen and now he's crying. Why are you carrying range ammo for self defense if you have better rounds lol. Thats like the equivilent to a 22mag
OK wait we didn't want to read the emails you didn't Even allow time to read them I had to play the pause game 5 times to read them fully sounds like yes you got faulty ammo I won't argue that but you made it sound like you were afraid of the ammo you literally worded it like it might go off in your hand wich is not a concern at all in this case even if it did you'd probably drop it before it actually burnt you to bad second it sounds like the company is genuinely taking this seriously and it's actually going to make an effort to fix the problem why you gotta put them on blast like you are your wording it like theure a bad compa y from everything I see the fact they even gave you the time of day says they're gonna fix it fn is a very small company tho with a very nice product I'm not surprised they had a bad batch of ammunition but don't act like it was dangerous
This is why people hate TH-cam creators cuz you could have said the name of the ammo in the TH-cam short and still made another video about it people would have watched the video
@@stevefinesse1I would highly suggest you go out and pick up either a Lee single stage press or hand press and a set of their factory crimp dies. OPen every box and run them through the factory crimp die station. You will see better consistencys across the board when shooting. I myself do not mind buying the cheaper rounds for plinking,I do thos my self because I found out early on almost 20 years ago when I started that some ammo that FNH had fioche make first under the AE name and now also under their own name have loose bullets in some of the boxes do to poor quality control during the gluing and seating phase of the bullet. Hope this helps you going forward and stay safe. You don't need a kb from something like this and end up with scares at a minimum or more serious issues.
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The lead tip is called a bullet
projectile as well.
based pfp!
Imagine a bullet comes apart in the mag when you shoot one and it ignites the powder that’s now in the mag
Lighting smokeless black powder without the pressure of a cartridge doesn’t really do much. Kinda like a sparkler.
Hi. Pro gunsmith here. It would not do that and if it did nothing would happen. It needs pressure.
@@BjornRktos so you’re trying to tell me that gun powder isn’t flammable outside of a bullet casing? Idc if you’ve built guns for 200 years that just sounds stupid
@@nolan9949 that aint what he sayd he sayd gun powder does not have pressure if it's not contained gun powder is very flammable almost all the types r
@@TREETOPCHOPPA762 he said and I quote NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN And you can’t even spell a simple 4 letter word go argue with someone else
COVID rounds. Lots of companies had QC issues during that time
Someone at the factory forgot to set the crimp machine that day...
Sounds right
Not the crimp. Neck tension. Wasn't sized properly or the expander ball was too large. The crimp won't retain the bullet if the neck tension isn't there. If the neck tension isn't there the crimp doesn't matter unless it's really aggressive - which is something you don't do on a semi auto.
Yes sir. Bullet setback. the projectile pushed into a case can blow a firearm up. Dont rack rds multiple times if you can help it and if you have just stand a fresh rd next to suspect rd and check or measure w a caliper if concerned. Setback increases the pressure dramatically. spikes it. can equal bad boom.
Bro I was saying the same thing it's his own fault you can see the casing has marks smh he sucks
@@lilbravzo6ne casings get scratched from everything. Especially when chambering a round. It doesn't appear he's been reloading he doesn't even know what the actual bullet it. He called it a "lead tip" I doubt this guys reloading
Wrong I'm speaking from experience not my butt look at the casing neck tell tell sign good day goofy
@@lilbravzo6neI forgot the stopped making guns after they made yours and you were the only guy with them. Sorry about that
Bro look at the case necks. There's no crimp on those cartridges. Setback has nothing to do with this.
Fiocchi loads them all, they just buy the brass from FN. I had the same issue with American Eagle. Its partly because they have to lubricate the brass to help the gun load the round. It's 1,000 percent on Fiocchi. They had quality control issues really bad for awhile as you now know.
I’ve shot thousands of rounds from Fiocchi, all different calibers, including 57.
I’ve never personally had an issue.
@@nevmax9312Then count yourself lucky. Over the years I have fired thousands of 5.7 ammo from all sorts of manufacturers with no issues but with AE had at minimum 1-3 bullets not locked in with adhesive in every ctn.
Fn does not manufacture brass or ammunition components whatsoever period, and fiocchi absolutely doesn’t load or produce this ammunition either. If you think this cheap garbage ammunition company can afford to have Italian manufacturing produce these at a premium and then imported them at a premium ur not a smart person. Some a hole in his garage made this shit and used a ups store to print the logos.
Wrong sorts. See my above post. Up until just over a year ago Fiocchi loaded all the ammo on FNH supplied brass causing a bottle neck. They started a new contract and now Fiocchi is manufacturing their own 5.7 brass on 4 machines in Italy. The coating on the brass doesn't have a damn thing to do with helping feed or load the round. Stupid internet myth still around for 20 plus years.
i’ve heard most 5.7 bullets all come from FN themselves. these companies are just contracted out. if so then that means my american eagle 5.7s and your gunr 5.7s are coming from the same place and having the same problem. no good.
I heard the same thing.
I heard the same thing
Not sure if it's true but i know the federal American eagles do the same
Wrong. Break down, Ss190, SS192, SS195, and SS198 , all components of case, bullet, primer from FNH, made by FNH. powder third party. All Elite Ammunition comes from Me/EA. All of the SS197, American Eagle, and this stuff is made by Fiocchi under contract. All Fiocchi ammo uses off the shelf powders and bullets. Up until just over a year ago Fiocchi loaded all the ammo on FNH supplied brass causing a bottle neck. They started a new contract and now Fiocchi is manufacturing their own 5.7 brass on 4 machines in Italy.
@@EliteAmmunition wow! thank u!
Unlike us reloaded that check every round as we load it factory ammo is made on motorized loaders and made in bulk so rounds don’t get checked near as often as if you were hand loading
Wrong, Fiocchi decided to not mechanically crimp the bullets. FNH uses glue to crimp on SS190, SS192, SS195 and SS198. I/EA use a custom roll crimp on all our ammo.
@@EliteAmmunition Bad case neck tension with no crimp is certainly a winning combination.
@@m2hmghb Cost cutting at it's best.
Haven’t had any issues with either FN or American on mine Mk2 but i will definitely be checking.
FNGUNR is tge brand since he doesn't wanna help fellow gun owners and farm view. Btw 5.7 in general wanna stick with fiochhi and the actual fn brand because the r big manufacturers and have the right tolerances and machines so im not surprised stop going cheap and this wont happen ik it sucks but wait till other good competition starts making 5.7 like sellier and bellot and prices will drop
This is exactly why you dont buy the cheapest shit you can get. Buy quality, reputable products.
You get what you pay for.
That's really not an excuse. Blazer brass doesn't do this. Besides, this is made for and branded by the original MFG that produced the caliber and firearms. This is FN ammo. All FN branded ammo in the US is made by fiocchi, even the SS ammo.
@@calangelyou are right tho a reputable ammo manufacturer shouldn't have this problem but for him to act like it's a deadly issue is the problem ya the had a bad Bach of crimping but are you at risk of injury no
FN is a pretty reputable brand. Every company makes mistakes
@zakpike4582 Tell me, you know nothing about firearms or how ammunitions work without telling me you don't.
Those bullets can harm you when there is loose powder everywhere. It's why everybody hated the cap and ball revolver that was made into a rifle when it was invented. The loose powder, along with fire, caused a chain reaction that caused every round to go off. If there is enough room for the projectiles to fall out, there is room for fire to get through. And the 5.7x28 does have a fireball at the end of the barrel when shot. Have both a ps90 and a ruger 5.7. All it takes is some of that loose powder to be in the wrong spot and boom. You lose both hands.
Fn Gunnr Is Made By Fn & Fn Aint Cheap By A Long Shot ..
Had something similar with the FN ammo in the white and blue box . Shot atleast 5 rounds where the round jammed after firing.the round came out burnt ,striker was hit, no gunpowder left and the bullet shoved half way back in the casing .
The M&P 57 is nice, but I went with the Ruger 57 myself.
Just fits my hand better, I dig the ambidextrous safety, and the carbine takes the same mags. I dig I dig.
Also, when I got it, people were still hating on 57, which I’ve never been able to understand personally. It’s a fast moving, nice shooting round, and I’ve always liked it.
Glad you got that worked out but you are correct, totally unacceptable! They could have had a major lawsuit on their hands.
I’ve had a lot of problems with the fiocchi dynamic range ammo I’ve only ever bought the 150 round box but I believe I threw away 50+ bad rounds from the same issues…
Dang I just shot a 150 box with no issues
@@jaredsithong6899same here
@@jaredsithong6899I swear I could just pick out 5 rounds and pull the bullet out of the casing of atleast 1 everytime I was honestly so scared to shoot the rest I prolly still got 30 good rounds plus the 50 bad ones
It’ll be dis-heartening to get the replacement boxes only to find the same lot numbers.
Besides, if they knew there was a problem with their lines, shouldn’t they have done a recall?
These are taget rounds. I have the same m&p 5.7. Also have a Fn. Ive only ever used FN hornandy (bluetips) and the high perfomace hollows. Never have had a single issue. DONT GO CHEAP YALL. Dont buy a 5.7 if you going to buy the cheapest ammo they make
I found a 40.cal cartridge in my box of 10mm brand was federal it was their hollow point punch i put it through my g29 it cycled and everything it was just 1 round
And it would have shot it just fine too 40 fires in a 10 not great to do it all the time but in a pinch it works and it won't mess up your firearm
That’s because the 40S&W and the 10mm are essentially the same round…the 10mm has a bit longer casing and so it has a bit more powder to put some ass behind the round…
From a guy who has reloaded literally tens of thousands of rounds, I would doubt anything would have happened. Freak accidents happen, and trust me bro I'm glad nothing happened to you.. Today's powders are not like black powder. Black powder is explosive, and smokeless powder runs on pressure. I'm just glad you're good
They're both Explosions and pressure. Smokeless powder has a faster more violent expansion rate.
That is one of the most ignorant statements of the day. All it takes is him cycle one round thru and the bullet stick in the chamber and he not notice and then loads and fires the round behind. His gun would go kaboom injuries to his hands at a minimum.
@@shaun536
You aren't going to Chain fire a magazine from a malfunction inside of the breach.
It's unlikely that it would squib either.
don't be a goober.
@emperorhadrian6011 Can you read? Do you have comprehension skills beyond that of a elementary student? Reread what I posted. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about it chain firing. But seeing as your lacking, let me spell it out for you real slow as I have personal experience with this very issue. If he had attempted to chamber one of those rounds and it was compressed his gun would explode and he would get seriously injured on at least one hand. Also had he chambered a loose round, not fired the gun, and then racked the slide he runs a high risk of that bullet remaining stuck at the start of the barrel in the chamber. If he then attempted to cycle the slide and chamber another round following and not catching that there was a bullet still in there, it could still chamber that next round and either set back the new bullet creating a explosive pressure spike or it could push that first bullet in deeper and upon firing create a explosive pressure spike. Both of those scenarios have happened in an 5.7 chambered firearms with that very same brand of bullets. Do I need to spell it out anymore for you?
@@shaun536
Read yourself before you post a paragraph of drivel, I'd also mentioned squibs, and that's because you went and wrote in such a vague untechnical way that I'd had to cover my bases.
Ammo brand is *FN GUNR*
Those rounds don't look cannelured or crimped.
Yep same with the 5.7 red federal box not crimped
Sick with the FN blue box, AAC, and hornady defensive. Use the american eagle or AAC fmj for range ammo.
I got some hornady critical defence that i had in my edc and if you chambered a round more than 2 or 3 times the case would crack and you could see thru it!!!
Just get AAC. I’ve fired a shit ton of their 5.7 and its run incredibly well.
PSA sells fiocchi range bulk packs 150rds for 65 bucks. I’ve shot a few boxes bought at different times
#1 Thats NOT BLCK POWDE its nitrocellulose powder more commonly known as smokeless powder. #2 the tips are called BULLETS. I have never seen commercial ammo come apart like that obviously they didn't crimp the case's properly. glad FN had your back and replaced your ammo. I probably would have just run them all through a crimping die but not everyone reloads
I had the same issue in with american eagle brand bought a box 6 of 50 had that issue had me pulling bullets because i racked it and it fell apart in the gun
6 years ago, I had the same issue with the fn boxes of green tip. Multiple boxes of bullets falling apart. I thought it was my gun, but my ps90 mag had loose pieces jammed in it.
5.7 is actually very liable to do that. I’ve had several rounds do that on me as well after chambering rounds and that was FN made rounds.
No they weren't FN made rounds. You might THINK they were but they weren't. FNH manufactured ammo uses a glue to crimp that holds better then just about any other kind of crimp.
So you were carrying practice ammo? I’ve done that too on my 1st gun, but get JHPs bro! 😂
The brand that this rando is using is FN GUNR.
Should I go tug on my Hornady rounds for the next 4 days ?
30 for 50 seems pretty standard lately for anything like a 10mm 5.7 44 38spl
You shooting 5.7 for a reason? The M&P had some mag issues with bullets that had a longer OAL. Have seen a few.
Like are you expecting to be shooting it out with someone who is wearing soft body armor?
They penetrate well, but they dont carry much energy with that penetration.
If youre invested now, I'd suggest a P90. May as well.
Sometimes you don't want over-penetrate
Why are you carrying FMJ ammo though? I'm 100% on your side with the ammo issues, but I'm a little concerned as to why it's being used as carry ammo? FMJ, on this round especially, is a massive over penetrator. Why not something like V-Max, Gold Dot or SS200 DFNS?
… all I did was go to the range with this ammo & this happend .. I would never carry this ammo for anything but the range
@@stevefinesse1 Ahhh...it was in your car so I made an assumption. My bad and my apologies.
That ammo went really quick to the clearance sale everywhere. I saw a couple videos about the inconsistencies with velocity. Some had 500fps between shots. No idea who loaded that for FN, but they did a shit job.
Bad case neck tension. Didn't size it small enough or expanded the case neck too much.
he says the ammo brand if FN GUNR in his video. you're welcome.
You should be able to recrimp the rounds. With 30 bucks a box, it might be your best solution
FN GUNR is the brand. Notice how he’s all glittery and stuttering? He’s aware he can leave this open ended and route traffic to his ridiculously long video, not good btw, about buying cheap ammo expecting not cheap ammo. I mean dude has finesse in his username 🤦🏻♂️ you finessed your way out of ppl tuning into beyond this STUPID.
Huhhh??????
You realise finesse has more than one meaning . Doesn’t just mean to rob or fool someone lol . Where I’m at an example of it being used is in football or soccer “see the way I finessed the keeper?” -translation: “see how I outskilled the goalkeeper and banged it top bins”
Cool, quit whining don't own a fn and watching the vid cause it's a pretty large issue 😂 with that same argument .22s should be falling apart cause they're cheap...
OK you’re telling me those wrench marks on your bullet casing were there when you loaded it? I mean, if that’s the case, then you deserve that either something is very flawed with your pistol or you’re just scamming a video clic baiting.
Yeah hes obviously full of shit aint no way
Wrench marks? Wrenches are mostly square headed and fit bolts. They don’t leave marks on round objects. Do you mean pliers? Not a very knowledgeable detective.
@@TheBeefSlayer he sounds like a 7 year old
@@TheBeefSlayer are you really complaining semantics with me?
OK to be specific blue handle handle channel lock pliers. Is that better? I mean you understood what I was trying to say but you’re right not a wrench he was just wrenching on them. 👍
The machine probably runs out of goop on the assembly line they need to have someone check it more
It’s crazy to think that this is a primarily fn ammo issue when fn is who created the round in the first place I can say tho for there expensive round I’ve never seen this cause that’s all my pops could get for his ps90 and fn 5.7 like 7 to 8 years ago
Because it was Fiocchi manufactured not FNH.
The brand is FN GUNR
That’s why it’s soooo expensive
That’s crazy to me seeing how expensive this ammo is make me think the prices were inflated a bit
You can pay up to 60 bucks a box for home defense ammo
@@jessewynne7620 that’s still expensive
@@BG-qx2st yes it is it’s still a limited, run round with very few production facilities
I've seen 5.7 blue tips going for 75 bucks for an opened box at a pawn shop with a huge firearms section. Insanity. It can be had for around 50 cents a round these days which is better than where it was a few years back, but still expensive
Yeah man I’d be scared too shoot that, id check every box obviously, shoot all that up and switch to a more reliable company even if its more expensive unfortunately. And I’d definitely use a mask when shooting that because loosing an eye or having a piece of metal pierce your face
Those medical bills are gonna be a lot more than bullets🤣 stay safe brotha
Major red flag 🚩. He never showed the primer. Those cartridges and bullets could be used ones. This is complete scam
Who's to say he didn't just pull the bullets in the first place? Who knows? I legitimately had a box of Federal HST in 9mm that had a bullet seated backwards in the case, when I called Federal they were aware of the issue with that lot and replaced it with 2 boxes free of charge!
5.7x28 is notorious for ammunition issues. There's no competition in the market for the ammo. The spec itself was badly designed. Why do I say this? The casings have to be coated in order to extract after firing. Without it, your $1200 Belgian toy becomes a single shot.
Also worth noting that 5.7x28 bullets are glued in - not crimped. likely an issue with the glue station in the manufacturing line.
The faulty brand is FN GUNR for those who want to know. I hate these clickbate videos and save you a couple minutes.
Actually, it's a bit scary that you don't know the proper terminology of the parts of a cartridge.
Or if you 'used' it but were able to replace them back in the box.
Use = spent
Tip = bullet/projectile
Tag this video to that short
There is a TON of reviews about this ammo and even federal 5.7 ammo dojng the same
Same ammo, same maker, different box. While the box says Federal it was made by Fiocchi
@EliteAmmunition federal uses us primers. Fiocci does not. Idk much else about comparing the 2 but obviously they aren't 100 percent the same
@@aaronwilson4898 Again you are WRONG. Federal does NOT MAKE the American Eagle 5.7x28mm ammunition. Fiocchi MAKES that ammo. They are the same damn ammo from the same damn factory.
@EliteAmmunition OK I'll just believe you over the info released by federal that you could google in 10 seconds instead of acting like capital letters emphasize your point more. God the cringe behavior of "adults" these days.
Also if you have to cuss to emphasize your point you're a small person.
Stop loading and unloading the same bullet smh you a goofy
FN GUNR 5.7 in case was wondering on the brand.
I make my own ammo. 5.7 is unique ammunition that requires a special coating on the round (maybe just the brass casing) it’s essentially lubrication. My guess is that coating somehow messed with seating of the projectile or caused the projectile to come loose. I’ve had this happen to me like 2xs before (like literally 2 rounds) it could also be the brass was sized wrong, which happened to me. Clearly a huge problem but it’s exceptionally rare from reputable manufacturers. So while you did do the right thing I wouldnt worry about it. Just keeps your eyes out
Dude it does not require a special coating at all depending on the firearm. The coating was designed to aid in feeding through the p90 magazines and to help extraction of the casings once fired in the FSN pistol. There are no coatings on the bullets at all from FNH. The issue here is that the company fnh has running the process through has been doing shoddy work and poor QC during the bullet gluing and seating stage. Most other brands use a crimp whether it be a taper crimp or traditional roll crimp. If you buy either of those I would suggest you go out and get a lee factory crimp die and run them through when first bought for safety.
I stand by my original comment that 5.7 is unreliable
I can understand why I personally have a 5.7 and haven’t had a jam or malfunction yet . That being said I only have 800 rounds through it tho
@@josefkobes9518I'm in the same boat as you. Never even had a slight issue not even once but I see a bunch of people talking about it like it's common knowledge. Sketches me right out
Lol bro are you Italian?
Why do I think this guy kept racking rounds and then this happen and now he's crying. Why are you carrying range ammo for self defense if you have better rounds lol. Thats like the equivilent to a 22mag
I have the m&p too you ain’t being careful enough w the cheap ass ammo
Lmao..
$30 for 50 rnds
You think that expensive?
Try 20 rnds of 41 magnum for $40-50
The ammo brand is FN for people who don’t want to watch his stupid “follow up video”
Take it easy bro .. it’s all for fun , and this my channel which I work hard for . If u don’t wanna watch just don’t
this video DOES exist. 😂
Should've showed the whole emails and you don't have to milk the videos just over 10m for the money. 😂
Huh?? I was explaining the situation… make ur own channel and do what u want on it
Fn ammo coming apart
My FN ammo did the same thing on me I was tripping!
OK wait we didn't want to read the emails you didn't Even allow time to read them I had to play the pause game 5 times to read them fully sounds like yes you got faulty ammo I won't argue that but you made it sound like you were afraid of the ammo you literally worded it like it might go off in your hand wich is not a concern at all in this case even if it did you'd probably drop it before it actually burnt you to bad second it sounds like the company is genuinely taking this seriously and it's actually going to make an effort to fix the problem why you gotta put them on blast like you are your wording it like theure a bad compa y from everything I see the fact they even gave you the time of day says they're gonna fix it fn is a very small company tho with a very nice product I'm not surprised they had a bad batch of ammunition but don't act like it was dangerous
Better off with ss197 or ss198lf. Thats ammo you have is horrible
Fioucci does the samething too tbt
Something actually worse than ppu for once.
I had a box of 7mm rem mag do that from remington mfg
5.7 doesnt use lead
FN GUNR IS THE BRAND
SO YOU DONT GOTTA WATCH HIS VIDEO
Ok thank u
@@stevefinesse1 gotchu mr.finesse
Had r.i.p. ammo do this... 50$ for 20 rounds and they either pushed into the casing or fell out ...
5.7 is trash anyway. Librol sissi boolits lol
Lead tips? You mean bullets or projectile?
Somebody else said it reason number 40 not to use 57 you’re gonna get yourself killed using that in defense
They straight lying
Why are you carrying fmg ammo anyway?
This is why people hate TH-cam creators cuz you could have said the name of the ammo in the TH-cam short and still made another video about it people would have watched the video
At first it was in the moment I didn’t realize
@@stevefinesse1I would highly suggest you go out and pick up either a Lee single stage press or hand press and a set of their factory crimp dies. OPen every box and run them through the factory crimp die station. You will see better consistencys across the board when shooting. I myself do not mind buying the cheaper rounds for plinking,I do thos my self because I found out early on almost 20 years ago when I started that some ammo that FNH had fioche make first under the AE name and now also under their own name have loose bullets in some of the boxes do to poor quality control during the gluing and seating phase of the bullet. Hope this helps you going forward and stay safe. You don't need a kb from something like this and end up with scares at a minimum or more serious issues.