pretty sure the car you towed was the only car out there that didn't get damaged during towing.... some of those other drivers aren't professionals by any means.
In some parts of the world, cars impounded related to street racing get crushed. They should feel lucky with a bit of minor damage......or they could have not done something so stupid on a public roadway.
helpful hint. When driving your tow with an Allison auto transmission, make sure you come to a complete stop before shifting into different gear. You will save yourself a lot of money and prevent it from failing prematurely.
I like how you genuinely cared about the quality of the car after you tow it, most truckers I feel would just toss it around, like our truck got impounded one day and it came back with a dent (the impound was due to parking)
To be fair. It's a traffic hazard with all the people walking around on the street. Because drivers have to brake suddenly to avoid the people in the middle of the road. Which can cause several accidents. So I understand why the police shut it down. 5:44.A police officer said they were told to leave the scene an hour earlier but they didn't so they have themselves to blame for their car being towed away.
I drove in Harris County for 26yrs. I now work in the medical field. Some of the Best People I Ever Met Was In The Towing Industry! All the people saying this or that. I say this, The Deputies are the ones Having The Vehicles Towed. Not The Tow Truck Drivers. Dustin, some people just don't understand. When The Bed Drops, The Bulls..t Stops! I pray that You will always make it Home to Your Family Safely Everyday! Godspeed My Tow Brother!!!
True the cops are the ones ordering the tow, but if they did not agree to work with the biggest corrupt gang in the world then none of the cars would have been stolen from these people.Also the tow industry is just as corrupt on everything they do from having spotters the BS amount they charge for a tow drop fees 50 times as much as they should charge I could go on forever about them . But you all get my point.
Nicely done Dustin, as a former tow op, I sure can appreciate you taking the time to help out the "competitors" get hooked and clear. One sidenote, when you're spraying the deck to shake it off, you only need to hit one side of the drive tires, the rest will roll, unless AWD.
I like your technique so much better than the other people that you've helped. Great, hurry up and go. I have to feel sorry for the people who were street racing. BUT THEY WERE WARNED!
@@KevinPatrick-ov3otI always hated doing tow outs for the company down the street. People would get their vehicles impounded and be pissed off then call us to bring it back from were it was towed from.
What a good recovery very professional doing your job .The recovery company next to you need serious training before they kill someone and to load vehicles .got the gear but no i dear how to use it .And yes been in the trade for 15 years .
I passed by there everyday going to and from work. What they are doing on private property isn't the problem. It's all the idiots parking on the right of way, (road and ditch) It's a real surprise no one has gotten hit by a car or caused an accident.
After watching this video, I now know how to use the tie down straps easier. Even though I am a lot slower. I can now also help others tying down items. Thanks.
Yep. I used to be very active in the local car scene. Now you can’t even have a peaceful meet without getting run off or this group showing up and ruining it for everyone
@@FizireYT I used to go to a few over in Manchester back a couple years ago but now they almost always get cops called which is just a bad wrap cause they run and leave the ones who can’t run or don’t wanna to deal with their shit
Ive seen meets happen in parking lots with cops rolling through making sure everything is cool. Cops may have issued verbal warnings before calling the trucks. If you ignore them...that's on you.
Since so many just has a knee jerk reaction to this video and did not watch all the way though. They were warned by the police several hours before to move.
Here in Sacramento we get side shows in the middle of intersections. The police put a taskforce of unmarked trucks to work and blocked them all in one night. They stopped real quick.
Man what a FKN Clown show is going on here? Those other guys were lucky to have you there too lend them a hand or else it could have been really bad for them.
Armchair QB here since I'm not a towing guy, but I didn't see anything on your tow that even Ron Pratt would disapprove As far as the owners ignoring the warning that LEO would be towing and followed through that's on them. IMO
I was there they did tell people to leave but block the entrance play purposely made all of that up they made it drastic because they thought it was a striker there no one has stolen cars😂😂😂
Have you tried to use engine cleaner to help the tires slide when unloading? Because then when you power wash your deck it helps clean off the oil also.
Go spend a 100 grand on your ride and see how you like it.Most scum who are in agrrement with such tyranny,couldnt afford to spend that on where they live.Where do you fit in with you schwinn???
15:48 👀 😂 16:22 🤦♂️ I like that you stayed to try and help other people out. Clearly some people need some training. Good job getting it done! They should’ve given you 2 cars to double up.
Honestly, the exhaust appears to have been bent or damaged during the unloading process. It would have been advisable to utilize wooden shims to aid in the loading and unloading procedure.
Lot of guys out there that have been at it for years and still dont know what they are doing when not given roll on/ roll off cars. Which electronic parking brakes and electronically actuated trans are making more and more common 🤔
The cops didn’t just show up, the drivers were all warned hours prior to move their vehicles but didn’t. It’s called consequences! I bet the next time they’ll listen to simple instructions. 😂
"Warned" how exactly? There aren't any No Parking signs posted at all on that street. Cops can't just show up and tow legally parked cars. Well, they can but doesn't make it right and legal. This is disgusting behavior of the cops and tow trucks.
consequences?????bootlicker or communist????no due process,cops dont own roads,we do.Stealing ones property under color of what law???A time limit?yea thats the America i wanna live in when i grow up
Not trying to bash you or the other guys out there. I just seen some things that could have been done differently that would have made the job go a lot smoother and faster. Over all good job.
That was a little pressure there. Glad it went smoothly without any agro. Do that and they might learn or move onto another spot. Either way it's an expensive car meet for the ones that got towed. Good job Dustan. Stay safe see you on the next one 😊
@@mrmotofyQuit saying it was legally parked!! It wasnt on private property!! It was parked on County property and the county has every right to have it towed away!!
damn great job dustin first time seeing one of your videos and boom hooked up ready to go then started helping out your competition damn good job brother keep up the hard work
Crazy that was a legal pit with correct legal procedures for it to be fully legal, “protecting and serving” more like being a pain in the butt for parking on the side of the road. No wonder why people do what they do cause of the system in play
"During the operation, law enforcement engaged in a pursuit resulting from the event, involving reckless driving behaviors such as swerving and speeding. Tragically, a juvenile sustained major injuries after being pinned between two vehicles during the event and was airlifted to Memorial Hermann-Downtown for medical attention. Several other injuries from altercations were also reported. Additionally, law enforcement identified a property suspected of harboring stolen vehicles. A subsequent search warrant led to the recovery of multiple stolen vehicles on the premises, some in various stages of disassembly." Sounds like you're as big of a POS as the rest of them. Hope your junk got towed
I'm actually kind of surprised. The WD40 trick worked. I run RC cars and we actually treat our tire with WD40 for traction. Once it soaks into the rubber, it actually softens it and makes it grip harder Although PB blast actually works better than WD40 And they both are ingredients entire treatment You can buy online for racecars
Those wheels on the Challenger all messed up, was it it from you pulling it or already like that? Not that I care, just curious if the pulling caused the suspension components to bend or it was already wrecked.
You did an excellent job young man very professional Just glad you got out of there alive Younger generation need to know that there’s consequences to their actions and today’s society they have none they’ve never been told no or if they have been told no they just don’t listen Just think how great government just add it over 8 million wannabes If I was you I’d be packing ✊🇺🇸
For legally Parking on the side of a public road, to go to a private property? Where's the issue? Where's the no parking signs. No signs it's legal to Park if you're not impeding a lane
So many clowns on here blaming the police and the tow truck operators for this. Here’s an idea don’t park where you’re not supposed to and you don’t have to worry about your rims or your car being messed up. As a former tow truck driver, I don’t give a shit about your car. I just need to move it and get it out-of-the-way. The rest is all on you. And good luck trying to come after me because I can promise you every company will gladly escort you out without police presence. Don’t believe me just give it a try it’s not gonna end well for anybody.
...THIS is what is wrong in society today...all these complainers. Along with all your "rights" come Responsibilities...like obeying the law. You Can't just Do Whatever You Want without respecting your fellow citizens rights as well; THAT is the Social Contract we all live under. Anything else is Anarchy.
NO One seems to Understand Simple English but I can Promise you they’ll Understand when they need to Stop by the ATM to get Cash to Bail their Wheels🤪👎
The cops have literally told us at this event and last ones to park in the ditch and that if any tires/part of a car was in the road it was gonna be towed🤦♂️ they gotta make up there minds
It was like a meet and greet of professional tow truck drivers!!! Love the video
😂
pretty sure the car you towed was the only car out there that didn't get damaged during towing.... some of those other drivers aren't professionals by any means.
In some parts of the world, cars impounded related to street racing get crushed. They should feel lucky with a bit of minor damage......or they could have not done something so stupid on a public roadway.
@@Hooknspktr that's only after court.
Listen up enchilada dick just because we Nick or scratch a bumber doesn't mean we're unprofessional😂😂
Truly a pleasure to watch a skilled professional do his job. The owner to the Dodge was lucky that you were the one to move his vehicle.
helpful hint. When driving your tow with an Allison auto transmission, make sure you come to a complete stop before shifting into different gear. You will save yourself a lot of money and prevent it from failing prematurely.
Good job. Helping out the other guys shows your character, you are a good person.
I like how you genuinely cared about the quality of the car after you tow it, most truckers I feel would just toss it around, like our truck got impounded one day and it came back with a dent (the impound was due to parking)
That’s why I document everything so no one can make a false damage claim!
I love the fact that you are always willing to lend a hand and help others. Nice job!! 👍👍
Thank You!
To be fair. It's a traffic hazard with all the people walking around on the street. Because drivers have to brake suddenly to avoid the people in the middle of the road. Which can cause several accidents.
So I understand why the police shut it down.
5:44.A police officer said they were told to leave the scene an hour earlier but they didn't so they have themselves to blame for their car being towed away.
I drove in Harris County for 26yrs. I now work in the medical field. Some of the Best People I Ever Met Was In The Towing Industry! All the people saying this or that. I say this, The Deputies are the ones Having The Vehicles Towed. Not The Tow Truck Drivers. Dustin, some people just don't understand. When The Bed Drops, The Bulls..t Stops! I pray that You will always make it Home to Your Family Safely Everyday! Godspeed My Tow Brother!!!
True the cops are the ones ordering the tow, but if they did not agree to work with the biggest corrupt gang in the world then none of the cars would have been stolen from these people.Also the tow industry is just as corrupt on everything they do from having spotters the BS amount they charge for a tow drop fees 50 times as much as they should charge I could go on forever about them . But you all get my point.
People on here talking about damaging cars yall were told to leave and its the consequences to your actions
They were warned! Watching the others hook up their vehicle shows they need more training, shows what a GREAT tow truck driver you really are.
So cool to see how you can pivot the cable on your truck bed like that, I had no idea it worked like that!
Can do all kinds of stuff!
Everyone running to they’re cars is great
Nicely done Dustin, as a former tow op, I sure can appreciate you taking the time to help out the "competitors" get hooked and clear. One sidenote, when you're spraying the deck to shake it off, you only need to hit one side of the drive tires, the rest will roll, unless AWD.
That’s what I did? But it was loaded backwards, so they slide off the length of the bed.
I love this! So many tow trucks its a party!
Tow truck competition lol. Most of them must have just started today 🤣
You are still the most professional of all Dustin. Keep going.
I like your technique so much better than the other people that you've helped. Great, hurry up and go. I have to feel sorry for the people who were street racing. BUT THEY WERE WARNED!
This is the result of when you are given the opportunity to leave with your car and you ignore the officers request
Nothing against the others
But I’d rather have you tow my vehicle
I love how after you where loaded up and ready to go you stayed and helped other tow drivers. ❤
Tow truck drivers are family..no matter what company you work for.
@@KevinPatrick-ov3otI always hated doing tow outs for the company down the street. People would get their vehicles impounded and be pissed off then call us to bring it back from were it was towed from.
They don't listen because I'm sure Mama and Daddy will pay for that tow. Smh
What a good recovery very professional doing your job .The recovery company next to you need serious training before they kill someone and to load vehicles .got the gear but no i dear how to use it .And yes been in the trade for 15 years .
Continually impressed by Dustin's ability to quickly size up a situation and work out the angles needed to get a vehicle on the deck.
👍👍
I passed by there everyday going to and from work. What they are doing on private property isn't the problem. It's all the idiots parking on the right of way, (road and ditch) It's a real surprise no one has gotten hit by a car or caused an accident.
Someone got lift flighted yesterday after we left unfortunately.
You make me want to get into towing.
Lucrative I bet! 🤔
Bro! This is your coolest vid yet.
After watching this video, I now know how to use the tie down straps easier. Even though I am a lot slower. I can now also help others tying down items. Thanks.
Damn that Sheriff is savage, towed the whole group pretty much. Next time they will be wary of that happening again and not do it in his area.
That whole thing was shut down. Hasn’t happened since. It was a chop shop too if you watch the 2nd part
another great job by all the tow operators . see that the tow yard got some much needed upgrades , looks a lot better . great work Dustin .
Police in CT need to take a page out of Texas’ book. These takeovers ruin the car community
Yep. I used to be very active in the local car scene. Now you can’t even have a peaceful meet without getting run off or this group showing up and ruining it for everyone
@@Towtruck_Dustin 100% it sucks to see it go down the drain cause it once was a good community to be apart of
As a CT resident and car guy I agree. I stopped going to meets a few years ago because nobody knows how to chill and not have the cops called.
@@FizireYT I used to go to a few over in Manchester back a couple years ago but now they almost always get cops called which is just a bad wrap cause they run and leave the ones who can’t run or don’t wanna to deal with their shit
Ive seen meets happen in parking lots with cops rolling through making sure everything is cool. Cops may have issued verbal warnings before calling the trucks. If you ignore them...that's on you.
It is reported that the words "Yo, dude, bro and bruh" were used quite a bit in various combinations by those on the side of the road.
14:50 Dude just took a hit of helium 🗣️ I DONT KNOW!
Lmao 😂
14:48 not the voice I was expecting.
no wonder he didnt talk much
Its the Mickey Mouse guy!
Lmao I was expecting a American dad Stan type voice but nope 💀💀💀💀
@@NudaMan 😂😂
Since so many just has a knee jerk reaction to this video and did not watch all the way though. They were warned by the police several hours before to move.
Still, ZERO excuse to damage other people's vehicles.
@@user-hv3gj5we5j There was zero excuse to not move your car when told to.
The tickets are one thing, but when all the owner see the bills for towing, they are going to wish they had left
You ain't kidding, I had my truck break down and I couldn't find anyone to pull me to the mechanic. My wallet has seen better days.
Black burnt rubber on rear quarters yea he been doing burn outs
If you can do donuts and risk damaging your car, then you can pay for a scratched rim 😂 Thanks for the video Dustin.
Not sure who scratched their wheel. Wasn’t me. That’s why I used the proper equipment to avoid damage.
@@Towtruck_Dustin Yes and perfectly showing you used the proper equipment. With the best explanation. 👍🏻
Don’t pay attention to the haters keep up the good work
Thank You!
The haters are what help me keep doing what I’m doing. Hope they come back for more. Lol
Get a set of wheel skates and forget the wd40, also helps a lot when pulling a car up straight when the wheels are turned
Nope. A lot easier to use WD40. Skates have their place.
@@Towtruck_Dustin Yeah, Way easier to give it the shaky shaky. Not your car so who cares right?
Here in Sacramento we get side shows in the middle of intersections. The police put a taskforce of unmarked trucks to work and blocked them all in one night. They stopped real quick.
Man what a FKN Clown show is going on here? Those other guys were lucky to have you there too lend them a hand or else it could have been really bad for them.
Funny I saw the video of them doing the burnouts and was amazed at the tow trucks. And now i get tow truck POV
Armchair QB here since I'm not a towing guy, but I didn't see anything on your tow that even Ron Pratt would disapprove As far as the owners ignoring the warning that LEO would be towing and followed through that's on them. IMO
People were told to leave, they didn’t. “Now yous can’t leave.”
Got the reference right away!
A BRONX TALE 🙂
I was there they did tell people to leave but block the entrance play purposely made all of that up they made it drastic because they thought it was a striker there no one has stolen cars😂😂😂
TH-camr H&R Cars was there
People can be so stupid. They were warned but did nothing. Another great video about a unique situation!
The shoulder was not blocked and besides that they can park on the shoulder unless there is a sign stating otherwise. They broke no laws
This is exactly what I'm thinking. Cops and tow trucks should be charged with felony car theft.
Thanks for the video!😊
Thanks for watching!
Great content Dustin. I go to alot of car shows and never seen anything where you parked in a muddy ditch illegally
Great content Dustin! Really interesting to see how the tow scene works!
Thanks for watching!
Have you tried to use engine cleaner to help the tires slide when unloading? Because then when you power wash your deck it helps clean off the oil also.
the amount of haters on this video equal to the amount of cars towed or more, i betchu it's literally the owners LMAO. Good stuff
Bunch of kids crashing mommy and daddy’s cars.
Go spend a 100 grand on your ride and see how you like it.Most scum who are in agrrement with such tyranny,couldnt afford to spend that on where they live.Where do you fit in with you schwinn???
15:48 👀 😂 16:22 🤦♂️ I like that you stayed to try and help other people out. Clearly some people need some training. Good job getting it done! They should’ve given you 2 cars to double up.
We asked. But they said 1 each. Basically just to get they point across that they need to leave lol
@@Towtruck_Dustin I get it. Good job though.
Honestly, the exhaust appears to have been bent or damaged during the unloading process. It would have been advisable to utilize wooden shims to aid in the loading and unloading procedure.
Nope. No damage done.
17:10 all those ole timers there and nobody knows how to use a piece of wood as a snatch block? I’m surprised!!!
Lot of guys out there that have been at it for years and still dont know what they are doing when not given roll on/ roll off cars. Which electronic parking brakes and electronically actuated trans are making more and more common 🤔
The cops didn’t just show up, the drivers were all warned hours prior to move their vehicles but didn’t. It’s called consequences! I bet the next time they’ll listen to simple instructions. 😂
"Warned" how exactly? There aren't any No Parking signs posted at all on that street. Cops can't just show up and tow legally parked cars. Well, they can but doesn't make it right and legal. This is disgusting behavior of the cops and tow trucks.
@@timb7775 can you not see that those cars were in the grass? Possibly someone's private property that called the police?
consequences?????bootlicker or communist????no due process,cops dont own roads,we do.Stealing ones property under color of what law???A time limit?yea thats the America i wanna live in when i grow up
Not trying to bash you or the other guys out there. I just seen some things that could have been done differently that would have made the job go a lot smoother and faster. Over all good job.
Notice they only want the high dollar cars not the pos sounds like a robbery to me
The cops didn’t even get the cars… they go to our yard where the owner can get them out immediately.
for free?
@@maxsav007 no they get the money from when the owner comes to get the car from lockup.
@@Towtruck_Dustin you guys dont charge from the lot fees? Or do you not make money on this exchange?
@@Brix0nBrix i was being sarcastic
Good Dustin and that was cool of you to help out the other drivers
Ruh ro they got Mommy and Daddy’s cars towed! 🤣🤡
That was a little pressure there. Glad it went smoothly without any agro. Do that and they might learn or move onto another spot. Either way it's an expensive car meet for the ones that got towed. Good job Dustan. Stay safe see you on the next one 😊
Im convinced that behind the construction industry, tow companies are the biggest purchasers of wood lol.
A Car meet with factory stock cars having a farting sound muffler replaced is not a car meet rather just a parking lot at a convenience store.
It wasn’t a car meet afaik, some people said a drifting event on a private property. Either way all these dudes did was park illegally
awesome video lol we have it worse here in cali we call them street takeovers great job keep up the great work and i like the scanner traffic
This wasn't a takeover. Legally parked on side of road to go to a nearby property
@@mrmotofyQuit saying it was legally parked!! It wasnt on private property!! It was parked on County property and the county has every right to have it towed away!!
@@briangallagher9426 It's legal to park on the side of virtually any public road unless it's posted No Parking. They weren't abandoned cars
It looks like you've done a few recoveries in your time!!!
Just a few lol
Wow! A bit scary. I’m glad you all got out of there alright. Those cars were parked in some deep culverts. I hope none of the cars got damaged.
Some of these guys make this harder than it really is. The guy with the Nissan needed to get his deck on the road. It would have went right up.
A lot of people just don't know how valuable the snatch block is. I always used it. 😊😊
😂😂😂 you were about the only one who knew how to work a snatch block and winch
It's amazing that it seems like your the only one that knows what you're doing. YOU NEED HAVE TOW TRUCK TOWING SCHOOL YOU COULD MAKE SOME GOOD MONEY.
Thank you all for cleaning up this shit!!
The next video will reference this one. It got crazy after we left.
damn great job dustin first time seeing one of your videos and boom hooked up ready to go then started helping out your competition damn good job brother keep up the hard work
Thank You! Glad you’re enjoying the content!
It's a great job
That was very interesting. Thanks for posting this.
This is fucking awesome!! Good work!!
That’s what happens when you turn the public road into your personal race track. People don’t learn till it cost them money
Crazy that was a legal pit with correct legal procedures for it to be fully legal, “protecting and serving” more like being a pain in the butt for parking on the side of the road. No wonder why people do what they do cause of the system in play
"During the operation, law enforcement engaged in a pursuit resulting from the event, involving reckless driving behaviors such as swerving and speeding. Tragically, a juvenile sustained major injuries after being pinned between two vehicles during the event and was airlifted to Memorial Hermann-Downtown for medical attention. Several other injuries from altercations were also reported.
Additionally, law enforcement identified a property suspected of harboring stolen vehicles. A subsequent search warrant led to the recovery of multiple stolen vehicles on the premises, some in various stages of disassembly."
Sounds like you're as big of a POS as the rest of them. Hope your junk got towed
“The Mountain of Right “ the FAFO of Brazoria County 👍🏼🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
great job brother besafe al;ways have a great day
Thank You!
Dustin, you could put one on the wheel lift couldn’t you? Seems some of the drivers need some training with you Dustin.
They should've let the flatbed trucks get 2 vehicles
We asked. But this wasn’t about getting as many as possible. If you watch the latest video, you’ll see what all this turned into.
I'm actually kind of surprised. The WD40 trick worked. I run RC cars and we actually treat our tire with WD40 for traction. Once it soaks into the rubber, it actually softens it and makes it grip harder Although PB blast actually works better than WD40 And they both are ingredients entire treatment You can buy online for racecars
Why don’t people listen,this is what will happen
I would love to do your job. I like cars and working outside. I now that there are even cold days but I would like doing this.
I love it. Couldn’t see myself doing anything else.
You need to give some of these guys lessons
Fast and Furious fans are mad 😉
Those wheels on the Challenger all messed up, was it it from you pulling it or already like that? Not that I care, just curious if the pulling caused the suspension components to bend or it was already wrecked.
Can’t mess up wheels pulling on it nothing was touching the rim or tire no damage physically could’ve been done
Hey brother I am sure glad you're there to give them a helping hand. The other drivers make it look hard lol
It’s amazing how difficult other drivers make their job. I often think they over complicate things
Such immature people flipping you off at the end😂
You did an excellent job young man very professional
Just glad you got out of there alive
Younger generation need to know that there’s consequences to their actions and today’s society they have none they’ve never been told no or if they have been told no they just don’t listen
Just think how great government just add it over 8 million wannabes
If I was you I’d be packing
✊🇺🇸
For legally Parking on the side of a public road, to go to a private property? Where's the issue? Where's the no parking signs. No signs it's legal to Park if you're not impeding a lane
People need some serious training on towing and recovery
Especially those idiots yanking that white Mustang out.
Ты опять красавчик,даже другим помогаешь.
So many clowns on here blaming the police and the tow truck operators for this. Here’s an idea don’t park where you’re not supposed to and you don’t have to worry about your rims or your car being messed up. As a former tow truck driver, I don’t give a shit about your car. I just need to move it and get it out-of-the-way. The rest is all on you. And good luck trying to come after me because I can promise you every company will gladly escort you out without police presence. Don’t believe me just give it a try it’s not gonna end well for anybody.
Cops should find an empty field to learn how to pit correctly instead of worrying they might hurt their taxpayers patrol cars.
...THIS is what is wrong in society today...all these complainers. Along with all your "rights" come Responsibilities...like obeying the law. You Can't just Do Whatever You Want without respecting your fellow citizens rights as well; THAT is the Social Contract we all live under. Anything else is Anarchy.
Remember that next time you're speeding. Maybe your car should be seized and towed since you broke the social contract.
@@absolute.freedom ...I obey the speed limit (@ least no more than 9 over)
Unless you are protesting and burning buildings in ok then
Dustin you keep doing what you do i see your videos and go back in time with the money money money song
NO One seems to Understand Simple English but I can Promise you they’ll Understand when they need to Stop by the ATM to get Cash to Bail their Wheels🤪👎
Me seeing this thankful I jumped in a wheel lift 9 years ago
The cops have literally told us at this event and last ones to park in the ditch and that if any tires/part of a car was in the road it was gonna be towed🤦♂️ they gotta make up there minds
looks like they did.