Venom: Let There Be Carnage - Angry Movie Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex review the sequel to Tom Hardy's and Sony's Venom! Introducing Carnage how does his debut and the film do? Find out!
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I remember reading in the comic where Eddie says Cletus kasady has a body count that only dictators and diseases can dream of. Wished this was an R rated movie
It's exactly as Alex said Carnage cannot be in a pg13 movie. Its debatable but even Venom kinda doesn't work for pg13 and I enjoyed the first venom but I was expecting more. That being said I imagine this movie will have the same feeling it was a kinda fun ride but feels like somthing is missing.
@@aaronbozack830 yeah this movie was ok at best but would of did better with an r rating the writing wasn't that great so seeing action scenes as they were intended would of made this movie more enjoyable and a better representation of carnage who is an awfully violent sadist
There isn't much to debate here. The movie was crap. The first one was the exact same crap. They turned Venom into a superhero. Lmao.
@@aab350z He acts damn near identical to his lethal protector self.
@@aaronbozack830 carnage was never gore centric in the comics either so idk why people are pushing for a r rating
Carnage can't be pg13, he needs to be like Deadpool in that aspect
What abt The Suicide Squad. Sony needs to take a chance with making a Gritty Rated "R" movie. What the got the lose?
It's likely because Venom and Carnage will eventually tie into Spiderman next, so they can't do them R rated.
I just hope they released an R-rated, or MATURE rated version of Venom Let there be Carnage... where it shows Carnage ACTUALLY biting off their heads, with blood, and gore... and Venom biting off Kletus'.... that needs to happen for this film.
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Except Deadpool totally can be PG-13, he mostly is in the comics & he will be toned down when they put him in other MCU movies besides his own
They did him in a cartoon show and no one complained. I think he did pretty well on screen
Venom 100% needs to be rated R. Especially with Carnage.
Venom doesn't lmao. His comics are mostly rated for kids to teens. Carnage however is understandable when know all the things he does.
They can’t. Especially now that it’s incorporated into the MCU, which is probably why it wasn’t to begin with
It was honestly fine without being r rated
I have the feeling they deliberately took out scenes for a sequel that will be r rated but in the same universe as deadpool that would work so well
But honestly venom movies don't need to be r rated
What I'm hearing about Carnage it's not good that she's telling people off screen and wanting a friend. This is not Carnage he is more worse than Venom, he doesn't care if you are child man woman animal whatever you are he will get you if you provoke him.
Carnage is attacking the generators, the film is losing power.
LMAO
Yo this is too good 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 very great Joke.
If you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
I understood that reference.
I wish they let Cletus command the symbiote like in the comics. His psychotic mind completely takes over and the symbiote obeys his every whim. As opposed to Eddie who actively talks with his symbiote and even discusses things with it. Carnage is just Cletus with a power-up in the comics
First? On a verified?
Nope. In the comics the Carnage symbiotic and Cletus are both so violent and crazy they essentially become a single entity. That's why Carnage refers to himself as "I" not "we" like Venom.
If you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
@@churchofplatinum9685 yeah, I didn't like the movie...left a little disappointed
@@churchofplatinum9685 Pretty sure the comic (and even cartoon show) state that Cletus is dominant over the symbiote. Then again, the comics never even had Venom's suit speak back until the late 2000's. So some readers just assumed Eddie was nuts and talking to nothing (kinda like a drunk talking to alcohol just because it makes him feel good)
The most disappointing thing that was said here was it sounds like they tried to humanize Cletus. Why do comic book movie writers never read the source material, Cletus Kasady is not a Joker character, he doesnt have some agenda or humanizing traits hes pure evil incarnate for the sake of being evil. He wakes up and decides he wants to brutally murder 100 people today just cause, he doesnt stop until 100 people are dead, just cause.
That's the same thing in saying. If he wants to fuck a chick he does it or an Alien chick he does it because he wants to No one stops him.
Nowadays every villain has to have a good reason to be evil, be it greed or some different extremist point of view.
The movie industry is too afraid to make a villain that is just evil for the sake of being evil because they are worried that people will see it as poor writing.
@@JamilJslibi yeah it's such a weird trope that's everywhere in mainstream films
Stfu leave the joker out of this! Scrub
@@VastoFlo13 chill lmfao.
Anyone else remember when they originally said Venom would be rated R but then months from release they changed it at the last second and nobody said shit. Tom Hardy said they cut out almost 40 minutes of the best parts of the movie.
Maybe an R rated directors cut down the road? 🤔
@@TheNotoriousMUSK if it hasn't happened now it won't ever happen. That would just give the false idea that they want to make quality adaptations rather than whats easy, simple and will sell a quick buck.
@@Gibblitt Well look how long it took to get the Snyder cut. Who knows. If they feel they can make money off an R rated version? It's not impossible. There have been countless director's cuts for other films. The Richard Donner cut for Superman, the Director's cut for Spider-man 3, The ultimate edition of BvS. Hell Deadpool even got a PG-13 release after the R rated release.
Cuz they care more about the money than the fans
A liked this movies a think it was pretty good so a just imagine if they left 40 minute of the movies it must be awesome
Carnage used to be one of the characters that parents wanted to ban comic books for. This ain't it.
Truer words.....
No he wasn’t... at no point was there talk of canceling carnage from spider man comics. Todd McFarlane created venom and that was decades after when parents tried canceling comics. Do you even know comics or just movies based on comics?
@@opinionatedlookinboy5555 those words are completely false... no truth whatsoever in that post.
I don’t think the soccer moms have yet discovered comic books
YOU CAN NOT HAVE VENOM MOVIES RATED PG-13. ESPECIALLY WHEN CARNAGE IS IN IT.
And you can't have spiderman with rated R characters.
Choices were made...
@@davigtome pretty shitty choices
@@Psa-ms thats what happens when they want it part of the MCU. Technically now it is. Rated R wouldn't work for MCU since they need the kiddies and families money.
@@coreymckee4844 Worked for deadpool
@@davigtomelol yeah u can fox did it so why can't Sony do it?
I actually liked most of the Carnage stuff in this movie. Just felt rushed and definitely should have been Rated R. Don’t really like how much of a goof Venom has become either.
na, this movie PG13 is what kills it, plus too many goofy jokes damn, doesnt feel like Venom at all.
@@SuperHns Venom himself is a very goofy character, but yeah it was a little overboard with this movie.
It you think this Venom is a goof, you should check out PS1 Venom. It’s not a new concept of Venom
@@franciscoaguilar2597 yep plus Carnage can NEVER be PG13. He should be 18+ or even 36+ if you know what I mean hahaha
I agree. Thought they were harsh
Haven’t seen this but just as expected there’s problems having carnage whilst not being rated R… I don’t understand why though, Logan and deadpool 1 and 2 are proof R rated superhero movies can work and for some characters are just needed imo.
Cause sony is hyper pc soy
Not R rated!?
Cartman: ...ah fuck.
@@duncaani very true sadly. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it I guess.
Cause they don’t give a shit about the material they just want pg13 for the money
Suicide squad which is rare r flopped partially because it’s rated R. Doesn’t always translate to $
I remember in the comic when the news said carnage killed “fifty” people in ravencroft. He should’ve killed those prisoners clapping for him.
That's kind of wrong. Cassidy is twisted and has a twisted sense of humor. He also doses what he does for fun an treats is as a show. He needs people to see him and be terrifed of him but also likes that attention. If prisoners werr rooting for him he had their attention, they gave his ego a boost hence he left them alive.
@@piotrkowalski3869 Carnage is just that though, Carnage... I think that sounds like justification a little bit... to me Carnage from the comics, and 90's show just always loved to create Carnage... kill anything, and everything in his sight.... they kinda made Woody an anti-hero/villain of sorts... You shouldn't feel bad for Kletus Cassidy... and the film tried to make us. He's arguably the most evil Marvel villain there is.
@@randomrecipes5007 He wasn't inherently crazy or inherently evil. His backstory made sense and was appropriate. It was different having Kletus Cassidy be the victim to the symbiote. I liked it.
He did kill them, he sucked them into his tornado
Actually, Cletus not hurting his followers is something he regularly does I think. He loves being cheered on, which is something that happens in absolute carnage and in some kind of dream sequence he had in the comics. So ye.
Lol says no spoilers
Alex: “Venom is in the MCU”
I never watch this channel unless I don't care about spoilers x)
@@Mariscos420 Exactly. They always talking spoiler on the non spoiler review
They also brought up toxin
If you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
I mean, Jotaro dies in part 6
We all saw this coming. When it was announced that it wasn't R-rated, we all knew it was not going to reach its full potential. So an average score of 5/10 is already reasonable.
The movie could have been good even with the PG rating, idk why people are blaming the rating...the venom movies are just bad 🤷♀️
@Tig Black they said the same thing when the first venom came out and people said it was good 🤦♀️ even with the PG....(I'm not one of them I didn't like that one either)
@@raulh5457 venom 2 is trash and its ironic how carnage is the best thing about the movie, however it all is spoiled at the end with a very unachieving final battle. It would have been better if Venom couldnt have beaten Carnage the first time around maybe in prison and then in the Church Venom and Eddie are much more experienced and it would have felt much more deserving. Its not even about the rating but lame ass characters and by the end everything just felt too funky and Carnage went out by the hands of a very boring screaming girl that just seems to be in the movie so she can annoy everyone both inside and outside of the movie, rather than Venom himself. Like bruh why the f did she scream at Venom if she knows that Carnage is right in front of her. I know they had to make CK divide from carnage so they are not in sync but the way they delivered it is just plain idiotic. This movie cant go above 5/10
The rating of the movie wouldn’t have changed anything. The acting and the writing is ass. 90’s venom is my venom and only venom from now on.
I’d have said 6-7 tbf. It’s was definitely an above average film. They were just being snobby comic book nerds
Joe has stepped up with his co-commentary skills.
He really does let other Joe and Alex talk! Kudos!
Lmao when it’s only Alex and OJ everyone in the comments be like “yes now I can finally here oj and Alex talk”💀
That show they read the comments
Can we stop making these cringe comments patting Joe on the bottom like he’s 8 years old. It was understandable literally 3 years ago, but not anymore.
@@HULKHOGAN1 what are you talking about?
@@93JB93 "Well done Joe ^.^ you're learning to share ✿◠‿◠)". Grow up
Killing Carnage is stupid, they should've had him come back seeking revenge for shriek leading to Maximum Carnage in the 3rd movie. Name the 4th, Venom: Along came a spider.
They could have done so that Venom left shriek to be alive..Aka not eating his head (something that had been a character development for Venom)
Be of them trow Shriek to the police.
and Shriek gets sent to a hidden military base, due to the govt wants to study him.
Venom and carnage from the 90s cartoon will always be my favourites
Kasady is gone… There is only…
*CARNAGE!*
Funny how even that show got Carnage right and it was kid's show!
I love what Alex adds to these reviews. His comments are always on point.
Nah
i may not always agree with some of the things he say but i do agree mostly, that being said he justifies his reasons intelligently and logically which is great. its a very respectable trait to have and his consistent, cant say that for AJ
@@deleon3747 Yah.. Alex smarter than both of them lol
@@deleon3747 sometimes
@@Bluescilla nah guy that thinks remember quick facts equals intelligence
Carnage is like Deadpool, he doesn't work in a PG-13 Setting
He so does though his ultimate appearance in Maximum Carnage is T for Teen/ PG-13
@@RulerOfYore His name is Carnage he eats people for fun you can’t show that in PG throwing people around isn’t Carnage
Except Deadpool has worked being pg13. Once upon a deadpool was good!
@@ThePunk01 yyeah cause it was just the first movie without all the gore. It wasn't a new movie it was just the First Deadpool edited to be a PG-13 Disney movie
@@TheKJC_04 Point is Deadpool can work being pg13, but Carnage can't. Deadpool doesn't need the gore, he just needs to be a self aware funny smartazz that breaks the fourth wall.
They're awfully selective when that sound sensitivity comes into play
I thought I was the only one paying attention to that lol. There’s some sounds that I thought would definitely trigger them and they didn’t. And some of the sounds I’m thinking that it doesn’t sound that bad
@@mateomorales2129 yah in the first movie Venom even states its between 4khz and 8khz which im pretty sure is a lot of things.
If you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
@@Mr_Cinematic does it explain how detective Mulligan acquired his symbiote at the end BRAH?
@@bowserbrowser6559 no
Alex- "Its been in comics for 20 years." Lmao 🤣
That was funny lol
Once Shriek was introduced, it was PAINFULLY obvious how the rest of the film would play out.
She could come back as carnage
The simple fact that this is not a R rated film with CARNAGE of all characters for me makes this film a complete and absolute failure.
You would think that after Deadpool and Logan publishers would grow some balls and make R rated films, apparently they're too god damn incompetent to even make an R rated Carnage.
@@gojochillmode839 Joker was rated R and made 1 billion dollars. The idea that r rated movies aren't profitable died long ago.
It was great
Carnage usually is teen shit where do yall keep getting this it needs to be r shit from?
If you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
Now with that end credit scene they probably won’t ever make another stand alone venom film.
STOP SPOILING ME 😡😡😡
Good. Venom sucks now
@@psychobillynumbnuts1 nah he doesn't.
@@GeorgeOfGeorge Venom and Eddie gets married and goes on vacation together in the end credits scene.
@@oss956 my life is complete knowing this
The post credit scene alone fully explains why it COULDNT be rated R. Even though it should have been.
You mean the post credits scene that people are saying is the best part of the movie?fuck sonys spiderman
@@davidcarlton2513 I swear to god I don't want Peter to be kicked out of mcu and back into Sony's 💩 hands
@@Zanoladab nah dawg get nae naed
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I thought we moved beyond the whole "Super hero movies can only be pg 13" thing. I wish the person making these decisions would realize it's better to have a good R movie then a mediocre/bad PG 13.
How was this surprise to anyone?
This part i don't understand,
They are money making machines,
Do you really think they give a shit about you boomers?
Its made for kids, kids make money.
@@RumandCocaine My toddler barely has the motor skills to hold a lollipop and even he gave it a thumbs down.
@@RumandCocaine
Over 18 = boomers, apparently
@@quetch2 you need to look things in business wise, this is why we cant have nice things in life,
I would love to watch PG 18 version of many movies but i understand why they didn't go that route
They care more about money than the quality of the product.
I don't know Venom from the comics, only the cartoon and i don't remember Venom being this ridiculous. Carnage was a bit more bad ass but still, end fight was underwhelming and wasted villain.
Venom has made jokes but this is just overkill for me
Venom talks and jokes alot on modern comics. He is like a little kid and even does things to the host to save them pain emotionally.
@@Thomas-xj2nc not like that though. Venom is intimadating, vicious and ruthless. This venom does not give that vibe
@@sirfishe9949 He can be ruthless for sure, but most of the time especially in his own comics him and Eddie are very collected.
Idk, Carnage did much better than Riot did in the first movie.
Watched this movie finally yesterday.. This movie NEEDED to be a HARD-R to bring out the absolute madness that Carnage can bring, similar to either Brightburn, or even Deadpool.
Carnage needs a R rated movie to be done justice!
No shit I agree with this
I completely called it. I knew the movie was gonna be another “meh” film, and I knew the movie not being R meant that Carnage was going to be heavily neutered. How are you gonna make a movie about a criminal-eating alien and a homicidal serial killer that has a homicidal symbiote… and not have any blood? Leaning into the comedy and away from the gore was a very poor choice.
It also didn’t help that Andy Serkis heavily implied that Venom would turn out to be gay in this movie in an interview. Either Venom is now into men (which wouldn’t necessarily make him gay since Venom hasn’t confirmed itself to be male, but still baffling why Andy would say it), or Andy straight-up lied just to get the LGTBQIA community to buy tickets. Either way, not good.
No, he didn’t say it was a gay story, he said it was a love affair. It was the media which picked that up and ran with the idea of romantic gay love. There’s plenty of types of love and I read what Serkis was saying as way more platonic due to the fact he didn’t say shit about romance
@@TheOldBlackShuckyDog No, you’re wrong. Serkis literally said that Venom was “coming out” in the same quote that he mentioned the LGTBQIA community. He was clearly implying that Venom was gay to get that community to buy tickets. This has nothing to do with the media distorting what he said.
You know they're not ACTUALLY gay right? The whole thing was just a joke, also symbiotes don't have genders
Dude i had people saying they were more pumped for that end credit scene then the movie
That was me. Lol. And it’s true
tbf its a bigggg deal
Lol definitely me
Damn that like saying you go to the football game just to see the band play lol
@@Ye_Is_The_Way yeah if it’s a high school game and the band is like Metallica.
My theory: they toned down the violence way down for the Chinese market
Rather watch Logan than Carnage now tbh lol
really i thought they wanted to appeal to teens more if its r rated they cant do that
Not everything has to do with China. Americans are so obsessed with that country.
@@vijaysabarish9600 then that's not fair
If you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
I didn't like it. The first was mediocre at best but this one just dropped the ball everywhere. Honestly, they really should scrap both movies and reboot the franchise closer to the comics. Venom is my favorite Spidey villain. One of the coolest looking villains in comic book history. These movies are just not Venom though and this movie sure as hell wasn't Carnage.
Thank you. Not many others are talking about this. Shit was awful.
Exactly! Thank god I'm not the only one who dislikes both of these movies.
Yooo if you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
I'm praying that some day they'll release some sort of directors cut of both movies and have them be either rated R or unrated. With how terrible the editing is and the hour and a half run-time there's definitely extra footage that got left on the cutting room floor. I remember Tom Hardy said that there's 40 minutes of footage between him and Venom that was cut.
Yeah but script still sucks
Also, without seeing it i can say it’s physically impossible to avoid the post credit spoiler. At this point we ALL know who the hell shows up in the PC scene…..TH-cam suggested must have spoiled it 1000 times alone. thanks internet! 🙄
Edit: I’ve come back to say even the new trailers for the movie are saying “see it before the secret leaks out”
Like REEEEAAAAAL smooth Sony👌🏼
I can honestly say I've heard nothing about it until right now with your comment. You didn't say who it was however it's obviously gotta be Spider-Man right? Thanks for spoiling it for me!
@@Durendail u r looking at a review for the movie. U should've stayed away from comments, and the video as a whole
It about peter griffen family guy cross over
@@Durendail It's about how Batman shows up and it turns out Carnage killed Batman's parents. So if there's a 1% chance Venom is dangerous he must take it as an absolute certainty.
@@Durendail you are the only one who brought up spidey here lol honestly I thought it was JJJ…thanks for spoiling it for ME!! 😉
This is not the VENOM the fans of the comic books want. This is the venom studios are pushing on audiences and dumbing down for kids.
Seeing this makes me actually respect Todd McFarlane a lot more because he hasn't completely sold out SPAWN and pawned him off on a studio. He's trying to make something that he feels represents the character. If only Sony Marvel had someone like that.
These films literally make people more stupid. Like really. Its unbelievable to me that this isn't universally hated.
@@WhatisReal11 same , I thought I’d be seeing negative reviews about this movie but people ended up liking the stupidity of it. Idk I thought something was wrong with me but it’s good to see others know what I mean
That thumbnail gives me serious prototype vibes
Oh god yes we need prototype 3 or remake of the old one
man of culture
Indeed
Good reference!
Underrated game
Carnage does not work as PG-13. His character simply cannot be done right without being R-Rated. He's a literal serial killer who indiscriminately kills people for fun. American Psycho is Rated R for a reason!
He's even tried to kill children in front of Venom and Spider-Man! He will cut your head off and throw it like a soggy football. He is one of THE most evil Marvel characters
Is Sony just incompetent with Venom?
I liked the first film, but it needed an R rating. Venom is not a PG-13 character
i mean he’s fine in pg13 carnage is the issue
Venom actually can be a PG-13 character, thats just nonsense to say hes just a R one.
If you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
This movie needed to be rated R.
Spoilers:
Dan was a mvp in that church.
Man I was hoping this one was gonna be good.
It is good. So was the last one
@@ryanbollinger1759 no it’s not
@@ryanbollinger1759 its trash
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Was good people just expect to much just a movie not that deep tbh
Come on OJ don’t hate on Howard the Duck. That movie is hilarious. “Jennings…. there gonna cook meee!!!” Love it.
They're* moron.
@@Lerbrandt chill bruh it’s a joke, no need for that
@@Lerbrandt Dude, calling them morons because they have a different opinion from you makes you a moron
@@jonaspetersen3072 he was an absolute ass, but he wasn't calling him a moron because of disagreement. He was being a grammar Nazi
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Should Review SQUID GAME on NETFLIX
I hear people talking about this. Is it really good? I hate foreign TV shows but I may check this out
@@Grogthewhale It's dope
@@Grogthewhale it's realllllllllly fucking good
@@Grogthewhale Imagine only watching American shows and thinking they’re the pinnacle of quality.
Yooo if you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
I was really disappointed. carnage and venom shoukd not be "funny" it needed to be scary and badass. it failed at both
Venom "should not be funny" yet in the comics venom always crack black humor jokes. But he shouldnt be funny right ? Okey
@@ianfudo5040 He can be funny but not cringy and goofy like a child.
@@ianfudo5040 I know you didnt watch the movie. thats why your defending it
@@ianfudo5040 there was no "dark humor" either. dark humor would have been welcome in a venom movie. that shlocky crap they tried to pass off as comedy was cringe and unfunny in every way. it was uninspired crap.
@@jr_fishing9287 I watched the movie and im not defending it, if you would had said what the dude said above then it would be okey, but you said it like venom should be always serious when that was never the case, dont care if you didn't like the movie or if you did. But saying that Venom character is not suppose to be a funny character, means you don't know the character at all. If you had said that he shouldn't suppose to be goofy, then yeah is true. Tho ill take that "he shouldn't suppose to be goofy" with a grain of salt when once he dressed like a Father saint while he had spiderman in a crucifix like Jesus and was being goofy about it.
They are being extremely generous. This movie should have been called “Venom let there be Garbage” they didn’t take this film seriously at all. It was a corny mess.
They doubled down on what people loved as a result the same audience (the majority) loved it.
The corniness is what I love. It’s a great movie, cry some more.
The film writers honestly have no idea who Venom as a character truly is. After have wasted hours of my precious life watching these two BS movies I can tell that they’ve never picked up a 90’s comic book of Venom nor have they’ve watched a single episode from the 90’s Sider-man animated series in their lives. It’s complete obvious.
I'm still waiting for the day when carnage and venom finally get the R rating they deserve in a movie. I'm just a bit tired of all the mature characters in comics getting thrown into a pg-13 movie and failing. I liked the movie but I'm still left waiting for the real true to form venom movie we need. Seriously Deadpool did it Logan did it why cant we get a rated R venom movie.
Because of Sony, and their lack of balls
It's because Sony has 0 balls
Where do you think these characters originate from?
The answer: PG-13/T for Teen Comics.
@@RulerOfYore Well this isn't the 80s or 90s anymore
Yooo if you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
Venom 2 is a hot mess. You guys seriously like the way Hardy portraits Eddie Brock ? It feels like he is Deadpool's cousin and not Eddie Brock from the comics. He is nothing like Eddie from the comics. All the goofiness, awkwardness etc feel so wrong...
My favorite line tom hardy stutters through "im a boy and your an amoeba"
One of my main story conplaints was carnages voice. I miss the high pitch crazy offsetting voice from the animated series back in the day. This new one sounds an ass kicker and i wanted an insane symbiote like cletus is crazy
Carnage voice sounded way to much like an younger venom.
Venom: let it be goofy
They really did my boi dirty
the first venom was meh.. The end of the first movie.. They had the whole, we are venom scene.. So u would think they would be Symbiotic.. But.. They're not.. The first two thirds of the movies were basically like the first one.. 3rd act was awesome but I wished it had a R rating.. Didn't care for the shoed in romance of rip off black canary and cleetus... Didn't need the dynamic with Eddie's ex and her current fiance.. Honestly we needed an action sequence that made Eddie make the rule of no eating ppl again.. Could've had a mid movie battle between venom and carnage where venom lost because they were not symbiotic.. And then have the 3rd act play as is. I wanted to like this movie.. But I don't.. The after credit scene kept me invested tho. But that's it.. I give it a 4/10
I felt exactly the same, except I give this a 2/10 x)
Harsh. It was an enjoyable fun movie, nothing groundbreaking but definitely an above average experience
We need a remake with a director's cut or something, and make it rated R. Perhaps then this film can be saved. Right now, it's just a movie people watched for the post-credits scene.
It's kinda ironic how Topher Grace would have made for a better Carnage than Venom as depicted in the Sam Raimi films. His voice is just sooooo creepy in Venom form and Woody just seemed like a giant poser the entire time.
I don't think we could have gotten a proper Superhero movie with Carnage as the villain. Carnage needs to be a monster movie or slasher movie. Imagine a found-footage of Carnage slaughtering across a city like Cloverfield. Or an unstoppable slasher like Jason toying with his victims.
You can tell OJ is wasted lol, he is slurring his words so much
That's just how he talks lol
Yeah it is pretty known by now he has some form of aspergers and is on the spectrum. It is almost impossible for him to give a full review that is well explained. He is there for the memes.
@@Yellowshirtmann stop it
@@Yellowshirtmann I can't I unsee this now ... His blank stare when people talk.
"Yes...I see...words!"
You're an ass 🤣😂
Yooo if you like this you should check out my venom 2 review BRAH
Did anyone else have struggles sometimes understanding venom sometimes I just couldn’t catch what he said cause of how gargled the voice modification to it
You weren’t the only one.
People need to stop saying Venom needs to be Rated R. Venom has worked for years without the mature rating in the comics and cartoons. Why would it need to be R in a movie?
I mean yeah carnage and venom comics were mostly pg but still you are putting they In a live action space, so they need to show blood at least for carnage, because this is real life not comic pages….like I swear I remember carnage turning His head whenever he want to eat someone like he’s insecure which shouldn’t be the case lmao…also pg back in the days was definitely more violent than today standards for pg imo
That description of riot vs venom as two trash bags taped together in the wind got my whole lunch room laughing for the rest of the Friday work day. Thanks guys!
The post credit scene is all I'm focused on after seeing this movie. I loved Woody as Carnage, he didn't disappoint as I felt he was a hand in glove fit for Cletus Katsidy. The post credit scene though...I wasn't ready for it. I just wasn't.
I feel like this should've been Rated R, but I liked this movie. I'm glad that we got Carnage on the big screen, I wish they slowed this down a bit to really let this breathe like it should've. They were true to the source material somewhat as Carnage did run with Shriek in Maximum Carnage. (I'm going off of the video game, sue me. Also, that side scroller was AWESOME.)
That thing it's just a cameo. People is just taking it out of proportion. A movie out of it it won't happen.
I hate venom and venom 2. I actually didn’t finish either of them.
I actually enjoyed the film a lot. Even though it wasn’t rated R, they really love to show the headless bodies and let you know the people carnage slung around were dead. The way the characters acted was still brutal so I don’t have too many complaints. All rate R would be is blood splatters anyway.
Finally. Someone I agree with
I enjoyed it too:)
People are obsessed with blood, I don't have a problem with that but I'm not gonna call a movie bad just because of that.
@@oni1261 I don’t think it’s because of blood obsession but more that Carnage is associated with extreme violence because that’s his character. It just depends I guess
You guys are all missing the point . Carnage is not some nice character that makes you feel sweet ; he’s a savage monster that makes you feel UNCOMFORTABLE & shows the brutality of the symbiotes as well as bringing out the best in venom. Congratulations on missing the point
sadly, Venom franchise will never reach its full potential so long as it's not Rated R...
Venom and Carnage have been my fav marvel characters since the 90s. They really need to just let comic book writers do their thing and stop washing it down so the kids can watch it
I hope they redo the whole Venom origin story ... By copying a Spider-man story from the 90s cartoon.
I love that Tom Hardy keeps saving this franchise no matter how hard Sony tries to destroy it
Facts
Truly a testament to how good of an actor he really is.
Tom Hardy was easily the best part of both movies.
Nah I came to see venom not a crappy Eddie Brock Tom hardy is overrated all he did was bitch in the second one
The problem with this franchise is that they made money with the first movie even being PG13. They won’t take the risk on being R if they made a good amount of money being PG13. I was bored through mostOf the movie. First superhero movie I’ve been bored with since Antman and Wasp.
Endgame didn’t bore you
The fact that the movie rated it self with a PG rating, already limited its potential, *especially* considering how brutal carnage is in the Comics, and thats how I describe this movie:
*wasted potential.*
Carnage in this movie was did almost the same way Venom was in the original Spiderman trilogy... A badass character that could have been a main villain of the MCU, but he just got nerfed and his character got changed for no reason... And now he's gone. Just got used for one movie... Wasted...
That post credits scene alone got me so excited!!!
Here is the real question which is worse WW84 or Venom: Let There Be Carnage?
Venom
I haven't seen this yet and probably won't till it comes out on video but I can't believe they didn't learn their lesson from the first one and make this rated R. The first one I can let it slide even though it should have been R, but this is Carnage we're talking about here. Carnage is a ruthless, destructive, psychotic entity that lives to destroy. Not to mention the fact that his host is a freaking serial killer and also a psychopath. Even though I haven't seen the movie, I think they missed a huge opportunity to go full hardcore rated R with this movie and make it great and I'll be honest. When I saw the trailer and the part when Carnage shows up and the things he's doing. I thought for sure that this would be R but I got confirmation from work last night that it's PG-13. Ugh!
It was dope he went ham. Cause carnage in the prison and at the end cause a lot of carnage just sucks it’s not R.
Let ALEX speak , stop interrupting him
Spoiler alert:
for anyone who hasn’t seen it but I think this movie was rushed due to what is planned in the future
The fact that you have to put a spoiler warning for a non spolier thing shows how people easily get offended and triggered with something this small. Lol this isn't even a spoiler dude.
Great video guys. Really appreciate your take on the film. I'm also hoping for more and more of eddie and venom as thats a bromance that should flourish into a while series of movies and even TV series
I never got that statement "were probably going to get down voted to hell" i mean why dislike a video because their/his/her doesn't share the same opinion as you? You should respect their opinion and thoughts on the subject. They clearly care about the subject if their prepared to make a 20+ minute video on it and if they give actual criticism on it then that's great! That's what writers, directors, developers want. Criticism! Not "oh its shit, dead game" or "horrible movie" no. They want a WHY you think that, whether it's bad story or bad mechanics, poor pacing and plot. They want to know what they can improve on. I mean if you state your opinion down to the least helpful word then its not going to have much of a impact
EDIT: now I'm thinking about it, I'm trying to say that if everyone had the same opinion then that would be a very boring world. This industry needs diversity in its content. Doesn't need to cater to everyone
Just some thoughts, sorry I rambled on for so long. Just bugs me
**SPOILERS**
"That's what they're setting up..."
"Mulligan?"
"No. Toxin."
YOU LITERALLY COULDN'T HAVE SAVED THAT FOR THE SPOILER SECTION?!!?
Carnage was so boring as a character. Cletus was fine, but Carnage was just like another riot. A deep-voiced sinister monster indistinguishable from any other. He's supposed to be a cackling crazy lunatic.
20:20 Final verdict
what this film needed was less character development between Brock and Venom, we should have had plenty of that in the first movie. This movie should have shown more of Cassidy and Carnage. Ann and Dan sub-plot could have been dropped entirely. We have absolutely 0 interaction between Cassidy and Carnage. Instead of gathering people for a wedding, Carnage should have been rampaging through the City, fighting off the entire police force, swatting down helicopters. And i'm disappointed that Venom and Carnage only meet at the end of the movie. I don't hate the movie, just disapointed that it could have been better. It really needed to be rated R. Carnage should have been slicing people up like fruit ninja, not just shoving them against the wall.
It was just a fun movie, nothing more, nothing less.
People disappointed it’s not a R rated venom movie but also get excited venom is gonna be in the disney cinematic universe
I see they kept the bromance and couple jokes between Eddie and Venom.
The most annoying part of this saga. Making Venom cute
This whole thing is just for children honestly
I think it’s average but still way better than Shang Chi.
I agree completely with both joes and Alex, I was disappointed with this movie heavily. I thought this film would be so much more then what it was. Maybe it's my own fault for having such high expectations and maybe the bar is just set so high in the comic book movie genre. Movies being acknowledged as great pieces of art and even winning Oscars. This movie felt a mess, the comedy was over done big time, the subplots were ass. Who cares about Eddie's ex and her moving on with Dan lol or an hour long of venom and eddie having roommate problems, venom wearing light stick necklaces lol. Shit man, I wanted to see more carnage. We got a shitty brief animation of his upbringing. I would have rather got an hour of them actually doing flashbacks of carnage's life and tie that into the movie somehow. Show carnage's more menacing side and have more chaos. It probably is hard to do that with a PG13 rating I get it but at least make the film more serious and less cheesy and boring. I enjoyed the first venom movie alot more and probably won't which this one again. The final battle was alright but fell flat and felt lackluster because of everything that came before it in the run time. Only thing I really enjoyed and got excited for was the post credit scene
The reason why no R Rating is because the movie studio would like alot of family and kid friendly money.
Carnage & Venom is not kid friendly 😒
Considering how many parents took their kids the see Sausage Party, rating would have nothing to do with it because parents don't heed ratings. Making it a Rated R film I feel would hardly make a difference.
If Carnage had a relationship with an airhorn it would be the same.
Dang!! Alex ! Lol!!! Calm Down!
Venom would have actually done well to have the darkness of the DC universe. We need the dark, bloody and gruesomeness.
Venom doesn't crack jokes, so why is he being forced to be the next Ant-man?
I wish they didn't link this with the MCU, Venom already needs a reboot.
Venom had a strange sense of humor in other versions. These movies kinda overdo it though. He is still supposed to be scary but those people at the rave were like 'hey what's up?'
Venom: Let There Be Garbage
How is Joe always excited for the next product after being served such GARBAGE
It didn't work for me. The only way for me to get invested is spiderman. I know boring but in the right hands could be as great story wise and emotionally intelligent as spiderman 2.
Nah having Spider-Man in everything lately is getting old. The whiny teenager thing is kinda annoying at this point. Either way, this movie didn’t work like you said
@@DurpyKraken superhero movies are getting kinda old in general
@@richierich2229 well recently Marvel has been doing some funky shit so I’m glad they’re trying new things. It’s starting to get refreshed
Pizza time
The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton is really good, film wise. If you're talking about another Hulk movie, then yes it that may be worse than Vemon.
I always said the Ed Norton Hulk was my favorite, way better than the CGI dog fighting monstrosity and somewhat better than the Mark Ruffalo portrayal
Worse🤨I don't think so marvel studios can make the hulk movie.
Hulk was way worse than The Incredible Hulk, but I wouldn't say Incredible Hulk was "really good". More meh
@@ThePunk01 yah but if marvel studios make a hulk movie that would be an awesome movie
The One with Bana is bad.
Does Joe even review games anymore? Some great stuff came out recently..
My guess is, he's waiting for the big games like Far cry 6, back 4 blood and battlefield 2042
Like what? I havent seen much lately.
@@bradh470 yes, the casual kids games lol
Deathloop! Kena bridge of spirits, lost judgement and I'm sure there is more.
There hasn’t been many major game titles released yet, but by the end of the year we should be seeing some game reviews coming in.
It was the rating. Squid Game has way more carnage😂😂😂
Alex just never looks like he's having a good time.. lol
I really feel like an idiot now for expecting this "movie" to be an action film with elements of horror and dark comedy...oh well
Will we ever get a non comedic rated r venom?? Is it too much to ask
I feel like the Venom movies try too hard to be Deadpool. Funny antihero movies for more grown audiences.
But the thing is they're not going to be funnier than Deadpool. They should have done the complete opposite. Instead of toning down the violence in favor of humor, they should have put the comedy in the backseat for a full blown gorefest. That is why people want to see Carnage.
But that is sure not going to happen with a PG 13 rating.
Also, the movie is waaay too short and fast. Cletus and Carnage come as fast as they leave.
Great performance of Tom Hardy though, his acting and Venom are good. Hope they let him shine more in the MCU.
Woody: "All I want is a friend."
Alex: "STFU, Woody!
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The film was terrible let's all be honest. Venom and Eddie have a domestic abuse relationship where venom keeps going into bad jokes to which becomes extremely annoying within the first 20 minutes of the film. Carnage couldn't be used properly because the rating doesn't allow for him, the whole ex girlfriend aspect... That shit needs to go somewhere
I completely agree with OJ on this one. A below average film deserves the below average rating. I had such high hopes for this one too.
Disappointed in the Carnage character. Harrelson did an amazing job as Cletus, but should have been in control of Carnage as Cletus, not the other way around. Leave it to Sony to fuck up an amazing character.
Harrelson was spectacular as was Hardy!