The example of “smaller planes like the 767 and Bombardier” seems to suggest a lack of knowledge of the broader selection of commercial aircraft models.
Many planes have reverse thrusters which can be used in a pinch to move backwards. Mainly they are used at touch down with the brakes to slow and/or stop a plane.
No. They are NOT authorized to use thrust reversers at any airport terminal because of danger in blowing debris at terminal. If you ever see that use it will be on third or fourth world airport, like Russia where they don't give a damn about nothing.. Thrust reversers are exclusivly used for initial breaking after landing.
@@Southwest_923WR you said they can't back up, not that they are capeable, just not allowed to do it. Big difference. I have never worked at an airport but I have at a Naval Airstation and aboard carriers. We do many things that are not done by the general aviation community.
@@st.denysthemartyr791 the problem is the reverse thrust kicks up debris and generally makes the gate area unsafe. Also, when reversing at slow speed, the engines are more likely to ingest debris. Finally. With snow, it blows the snow up onto the underside of the plane, which is not good.
This video is very incomplete. You started talking about pushbach cars and ended up talking about tug boats which are not even land vehicles. Mainly you missed about the pushback cars used to push jumbo jets.
@0:57 Airplanes do have reverse thrust- enough to slow it down. I'm sure they could backup using it but then it would also throw alot of equipment at the building so bad idea and thus the pushback truck.
I was a ramp agent in the late 80's early 90's and we would use the "power-back" method on all aircraft up to the 757 anything bigger would be pushed from the gate
@@alexandrosandreou8585 who knows. Cuz when you think about it cargo ships have massive engines making huge numbers. 1800 hp would spin a heavy prop faster.
Fact check, they don't weigh 50tons on their own. We pull them in the US all the time on flatbeds/stepdecks/rgn's from reman facilities and manu's to the airports all the time under gvw 80k(40t) they usually weigh in the ballpark of 25k(12.5t) to 30k(15t)
The Giant Container Mega Container Ships such as Triple E MAERSK and Evergreen 🌲 ones have Bow or Stern Thrusters to assist in berthing and unberthing.
Not entirely true that aircraft cannot reverse as reverse thrust can be used but is impractical and uneconomic although it is entirely possible to reverse an aircraft in this manner.
i don't know, cruise ships seem to do just fine w/o tugs. they come and go and turn 180 deg and more leaving the port of miami and geiranger norway. and they don't need tugs to dock or leave the dock. they use thrusters and can move sideways. container ships are another story. they don't have thrusters and need tugs to maneuver in tight places and for docking.
280 hp, so not that powerful at all. Most mid size & larger farm tractors are more powerful & to be honest the push back truck doesn’t need more. Airports are usually flat & the low low gearing means the push back tug doesn’t need high power as it only moves slowly. The main reason for the size & weight is obviously traction, they need to be able to grip the ground surface in all weathers.
planes can reverse on their own using reverse thrust... but they are unsafe to use near the ramp area and are also very loud. that is y tugs are used. also 767s are not small, how can someone even categorize 767 with a global express XDD
@@alexandrosandreou8585 I have watch them do it at the Terminal I know they are not suppose to but that's like when they push dropping from 40000 feet right to the max allow decent speed. It is rare to find a Pilot that is NOT A LITTLE CRAZY with his Aircraft.
@@alexandrosandreou8585 its not illegal to most privit jets and sometimes smaller regionle aircraft sometimes will do what it called a power pack where they use the thurst reverser to revsere out of the spot but it mainly happens on smaller aircraft though.
If a 767 is your idea of small then I would hate to see what large planes would be classified as according to you.
wait until you travel in A380 then you will know difference
Or a 747
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I work with 747 and a380’s daily. When a 767 coming in (once a week), all technicians say it cute because it’s got tiny wheels and it’s easy to reach.
@@pg41226 ur a pilot,co-pilot or enginer (on the 747 and A 380)?
It's all about gear ratio. A low power tug can haul anything but very slowly. Simple physics.
"The insane amount of power" - has 180hp
but more torquey
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@Alexwarrior Did you just copy-paste this from Wikipedia? and why reply to me?
The example of “smaller planes like the 767 and Bombardier” seems to suggest a lack of knowledge of the broader selection of commercial aircraft models.
The fact that you said a 767 is small and that airplanes can’t move backwards on their own shows how much knowledge is lacking here.
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I love how a 150 tonne airliner is lumped into the same category as a small corporate jet..
Same
I know he,did NOT classify a Boeing 767 and Bombardier Global Express as"SMALL"aircraft.
Someone is, NOT fact checking here.
They most definitely are small aircraft it doesn’t take much power to push them
@@retiaryworm4714 its still a big plane
Many planes have reverse thrusters which can be used in a pinch to move backwards. Mainly they are used at touch down with the brakes to slow and/or stop a plane.
No.
They are NOT authorized to use thrust reversers at any airport terminal because of danger in blowing debris at terminal.
If you ever see that use it will be on third or fourth world airport, like Russia where they don't give a damn about nothing.. Thrust reversers are exclusivly used for initial breaking after landing.
@@Southwest_923WR you said they can't back up, not that they are capeable, just not allowed to do it. Big difference. I have never worked at an airport but I have at a Naval Airstation and aboard carriers. We do many things that are not done by the general aviation community.
Not every part of an airport is the runway
50 tons ? I don't think so
If would see them in real life you would believe it. 1 cm thick steel all around
its not true airplanes can revers with their engines it is just that it is dangerous for the ground staff because of the blast that the engines make
Man doesn’t know how airports work
And it’s a handful of planes that have the pushback feature
Never heard of a powerback huh? Any craft that can produce reverse thrust can back up on its own...
I'm honestly surprised more carriers don't powerback...one less vehicle to keep fueled and maintained. But that'd make way too much sense
@@st.denysthemartyr791 the problem is the reverse thrust kicks up debris and generally makes the gate area unsafe. Also, when reversing at slow speed, the engines are more likely to ingest debris. Finally. With snow, it blows the snow up onto the underside of the plane, which is not good.
@@st.denysthemartyr791 not very fuel efficient and places immense stress on the engine
The latest design of the push back Tow Truck tractor is Towbar less types used to push back the Giant Airbus A380.
I was missing that one in the video!
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Did he say these things weigh 50 tons...???
I think is wrong
This video is very incomplete. You started talking about pushbach cars and ended up talking about tug boats which are not even land vehicles. Mainly you missed about the pushback cars used to push jumbo jets.
The mixed balance between music and dialogue is excellent....I would consider a de-esser however.
@0:57 Airplanes do have reverse thrust- enough to slow it down. I'm sure they could backup using it but then it would also throw alot of equipment at the building so bad idea and thus the pushback truck.
It was amazing that 30 years ago, my dad setup a company to produce these equipments
Speed: 0.1
Torque: 100000000000
They're not that powerful, people can push airplanes.
There it is, the peanut gallery speaks.... I would to see you push the 10 tonne aircraft let alone a 250T heavy....
@@bentheguru4986 are u on a wheelchair ? oh, sorry to "hear" that
@@bentheguru4986 We pushed aircraft by hand all the time on the Aircraft carrier I was on. Sometimes there is no room for the tug to get in there.
Worked ramp for untied back in the day. The little baggage tractors had enough power to push back a 747. What they lacked was the ability to stop one.
I was a ramp agent in the late 80's early 90's and we would use the "power-back" method on all aircraft up to the 757 anything bigger would be pushed from the gate
1:54 thats a baggage tractor not a pushback
Never called them "Push back vehicle's" we called them Tugs and one of their jobs was to push back aircraft.
280 horsepower? So ur telling me if u put a hellcat engine in one of those that it would basically make the plane go brrrrr
Did you mean 1800 horsepower. Cuz 1800 rpm isn’t much.
Torque and gearing is the key
Why would it need that much horsepower it's not a race car
@@alexandrosandreou8585 who knows. Cuz when you think about it cargo ships have massive engines making huge numbers. 1800 hp would spin a heavy prop faster.
Planes can move back on their own but it's generally unsafe to use the reverse thrusters so close to ground staff and also quite inefficient.
3:13 do what now 💀
Weight, HP are used to get that INITIAL torque to get the dead weight moving, I suppose?
OSRS narration
Tug truck vs tug boat??
Fact check, they don't weigh 50tons on their own. We pull them in the US all the time on flatbeds/stepdecks/rgn's from reman facilities and manu's to the airports all the time under gvw 80k(40t) they usually weigh in the ballpark of 25k(12.5t) to 30k(15t)
Yeah, 50t seems a bit excessive for those tow trucks.
I hear 15 tons...
Awesome!
"When it comes to smaller aircrafts like the 767..." lol ok
The Giant Container Mega Container Ships such as Triple E MAERSK and Evergreen 🌲 ones have Bow or Stern Thrusters to assist in berthing and unberthing.
Planes can move backwards on their own but the the thrust would destroy anything in front of them terminal windows etc.
You seem to change the subject drastically in like half your videos
It has nothing to do with power it's all about the gearing 👎😢
I hear people talking about how he called the Boeing 767 "small" but all he did say was smaller
767 small ? 😂 wow, am afraid
Push tugs
I came here to point out the fallacy of the "insane amount of power" statement.. I see lots of people have already beaten me to it..:)
'To push airplanes'
Tug boat???
Not entirely true that aircraft cannot reverse as reverse thrust can be used but is impractical and uneconomic although it is entirely possible to reverse an aircraft in this manner.
Thank for sharing
What tank, the M1A2 Abrams?
They’re on wheels not exactly a dead weight
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"dumb barges". (Pats the barge to comfort it)
Many passenger jets can perform a power back
Didn't know a 767 was considered small 😂..
Actually one strong man can move a plane, so...
Jets have reverse...I can't deal with all the misinformation
Av-Geeks are CRINGING Right Now!
I'm beyond cringing right now.
i don't know, cruise ships seem to do just fine w/o tugs. they come and go and turn 180 deg and more leaving the port of miami and geiranger norway. and they don't need tugs to dock or leave the dock. they use thrusters and can move sideways. container ships are another story. they don't have thrusters and need tugs to maneuver in tight places and for docking.
Azipods, … no risk of ingesting debris using trust reversers, 360° visibility, ….
Pourquoi : "insensée" 🤔
Why do they always move on to something else? Make a 5 minute video and then another one. It drives me nuts lol.
"Smaller aircraft like the 767"
1- 767 is a widebody and definitely not small.
2- you keep saying runway when you mean ramp or taxiway
Dont they have reverse trusts
100 thousand pounds for that ??
You guys don't mention the torque on the airplane pushbacks and tell no numbers on the tugs, why?
Why don't barges have propulsion?
Because they would not be a barge but a cargo ship or vessel and would cost exponentially more. You would also need a crew and a Master to man it.
280 hp, so not that powerful at all.
Most mid size & larger farm tractors are more powerful & to be honest the push back truck doesn’t need more.
Airports are usually flat & the low low gearing means the push back tug doesn’t need high power as it only moves slowly.
The main reason for the size & weight is obviously traction, they need to be able to grip the ground surface in all weathers.
planes can reverse on their own using reverse thrust... but they are unsafe to use near the ramp area and are also very loud. that is y tugs are used. also 767s are not small, how can someone even categorize 767 with a global express XDD
Vid lost al credibility when he called a 767 small
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What😵😵😵 airplanes have no reverse. What a joke. Next time park your plane in an incline🤪
Airlines should just hire bodybuilders to move them , it would be a green solution
not bodybuilders but POWERLIFTERS. Know the difference, kid.
@@anjoLas nope bodybuilder I stick to my initial comment old man
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@@birdman1843 😂
Is this ai generated content?
Changi Airport Group Can buy Follow me vehicles too.
Hahaha that’s not that powerful
Your joking a plane can push it self back they have THRUST REVERSERS HOW DO YOU THINK THEY SLOW DOWN ON LANDING !!!!
They can but it's illegal
@@alexandrosandreou8585 and bad for the engines.
@@alexandrosandreou8585 and ineffective
@@alexandrosandreou8585 I have watch them do it at the Terminal I know they are not suppose to but that's like when they push dropping from 40000 feet right to the max allow decent speed.
It is rare to find a Pilot that is NOT A LITTLE CRAZY with his Aircraft.
@@alexandrosandreou8585 its not illegal to most privit jets and sometimes smaller regionle aircraft sometimes will do what it called a power pack where they use the thurst reverser to revsere out of the spot but it mainly happens on smaller aircraft though.